Poll: Will You Be Buying a PS4 Pro?

For a minute I was scared cause all the results were 100% like my picks...
Then I realised I'm the first one to vote LOL

50% getting pro. Interesting

How much better are games gonna perform on the pro?

Not for me. I'm perfectly happy with the launch model and don't even play most of the big hitters that are likely to take advantage of the extra power. Not to mention that I don't even have a 4K TV and don't have any plans to get one.

I have the Star Wars PS4 and it's served me well but this morning I have bought a UHD HDR TV (there may be other letters, I'm not sure) for my new house (that's what I told the Mrs) ready for my PS4 pro and I can't wait

probably get a slim and a pro. I'll need to sell my original ps4 before hand though! pro for the front room and slim for a shelf in the bedroom

Need to add one more poll:

Does the lack of a UHD Blu-Ray drive effect your decision to not buy a PS4 Pro?

I'll wait until early 2017. Colors variations perhaps by then, even limited editions, am thinking Yakuza.

well without ANY 4K equipment the PS4 Pro isn't really worth me getting and with the original PS4 getting HDR via a firmware update that will improve the looks of games on HD TV's,

EDIT:i meant to put HDR TV NOT HD TV, bloody keyboard

i feel NO need to get one either or a PS4 Slim

Yep, cant wait! Gonna give my son my LE PS4 when I upgrade to Pro, and buy my daughter a new Slim. Stoked.

Personally I'd rather it be a bit cheaper and not have the UHD Blu-Ray. So I'm happy. But it seems there's a few who aren't. Can't please everyone.

Definitely not getting the Pro or the Slim. My original PS4 works just fine, and I'm not about to give my money to this kind of mid-generation initiative (which, to be honest, is something that really scares me).

@AFCC that's a unique way of saying "first" (I jest )

Concerning the article, I'm thinking of splurging on the Pro. Granted I'm not terribly impressed. But the girlfriend and I just scored an awesome deal on a HDR 4K TV, and she told me that I may as well put it to work.

I, on the other hand, am fine with my standard PS4 especially since I'm dropping $500 on the PSVR next month. I'm going to take a page out of @rjejr book and wait until I see some sides by side comparisons betweeen the two. Also taking a page out of his book, I'm just going to randomly slide NX in this paragraph.

At the moment, no, I'd rather save for an NX than a spruced up PS4 but I may get one later on down the line.

I'm getting the PRO for me, and the Slim for my daughter, brother and nephew for Christmas.

I will be buying a PSVR nothing has convinced me that the Pro is worth buying. I did eat a club sandwich and that reminded me of Pro today.

I dunno, I really DO watch bluray movies :-/

@PlaytendoGuy that's honestly what I'm thinking. It's the same reason I didn't buy a One S, couldn't justify the purchase. Though it does play 4K blu-ray, so I'm currently reconsidering. Overall I'd rather spend my money on new platforms like the PSVR and NX, than on iterative hardware.

@dryrain Glad it wasn't just me that thought that. Hold the mayo though.

@Sir_JBizzle Somebody has to randomly slide NX somewhere b/c Ntineod sure as heck isn't sliding it anywhere. Maybe at the next Apple conference.

I need to see side by side comparisons w/ the Black Friday game bundle pricing before I decide anything. Look, I can occasionally do on topic too.

PS - You wrote something really funny and/or important on NL the other day, now i need to go find it.

Shouldn't question 2 and 3 really just be 1 question? I mean, how many people are buying both, it's either or. Not even @JaxonH is buying 1 of each and he buys everything.

I don't have a PS4, but I'm thinking I'll get a launch model instead. The Pro or Slim don't really appeal to me much. I do hope that the people who are investing enjoy the console, though.

Yeah, there's not really much point for me. For people who don't have one yet though I'm sure it's good though.

I voted "Yes" on getting a Slim by mistake. I'm getting a Pro not a Slim.

@FullbringIchigo HDR doesnt do diddly squat for normal HD tellys, you dont get HDR on standard 1080p tellys.. HDR only works on 4k TV's

I don't have a PS4 yet and I've decided to pick up the Pro around launch. Voted.

Definitely getting a PS4 Pro - already pre-ordered - in fact I pre-ordered within an hour of the Sony Press conference ending - it would have been sooner but sites hadn't listed it by then - I was checking from the moment the announced the 'name'....

@DerMeister You better run then, the Slim is set to be the base model from now on. I have to say I'd get the Pro if I haven't got the original, though, especially at that price.

Never say never, but for now is a completly NO, until my current ps4 explodes, not a second sooner.

@Longaway that's a very good suggestion and I'd be very curious about this, for me personally I was initially disappointed until I realised that even now I buy so very few films on blu-ray. So the likelihood is that it'd be a feature I would almost never use but still a shame its not an option.

@FullbringIchigo That will make NO difference unless you upgrade to a 4k HDR TV otherwise ALL games will look exactly the same as they do now. What that upgrade does - is basically turn the PS4 into something like the XB1s (without the Bluray player) so that it can offer up to 1080p gaming with HDR for people who own 4k HDR TV's ONLY.

If you have a standard 1080p TV, HDR makes NO difference. Your TV cannot display the extra colours or wider colour gamut and certainly can't give you the greater contrast ratio so its 'meaningless'.

What I think is that Sony are doing this to sell more Pro's. If you have a 4k HDR TV and see a game in HDR, it will make you want to buy a Pro to enhance the resolution to really show the game off....

I've pre-ordered, don't need one but I'm a sucker for the latest gadget so if I can recoup half of its cost by selling my og ps4 with increased hdd to family or friends I'll be getting one. Then to use my stop smoking fund for a new tv. (Have to stop dipping into that fund, got the willpower now!)

@BAMozzy I did exactly the same only for the sites to have no clue what I was asking for

Pro for me, its priced fairly well and my current ps4 is noisy as hell which is the only reason why I want rid. All the whiners are saying the xb one s is comparable but then pro has 4.2 flippy flops and the one s only had 1.4 floppy flips.

It also depends on what the VR launch lineup looks like, I'll cancel if its a bit thin.

Day one for me, hopefully - but the pre-order isn't available on amazon.es yet and .co.uk won't ship to me

@Longaway no because nobody bothers buying DVDs VHS or Blu Raymond's anymore. Streaming and digital libraries are the future for that medium. Games for obvious reasons are different.

Already have my system preordered, and I'm currently shopping around to see which 4K TV I wanna purchase before launch!

@Sir_JBizzle LOL now that you put it that way...
Anyway, I was just thinking it was odd that no ome wanted a PRO, I was thinking that people had come to their senses

Think maybe we could have done with another few questions on this one haha, as it's quite a broad topic. Yes, I do want to buy a PS4 Pro, but I'm pretty certain it won't be at launch, as it's reliant on having a 4K TV, which I don't have yet. Would also be interesting to see if people are looking forward to the Pro or VR more.

I've got a 4K TV and my PS4's not brilliant & probably needs replacing (sounds like a jet engine & spits discs out randomly) but I'm not sure how much of a difference I'd notice getting a Pro over a Slim 😕

Come Nov 10 I will sell my launch ps4 for 250 and pay the difference for the Pro. I already have a delayed buyer ready for the Ps4.

Yes I own a Playstation 4 3 2 and 1
Will you be getting a slim nope
Will you be getting a pro nope
Will you be getting 4KTV nope.
Will you still be able to play PS4 games Yep
Are you looking forward to folders umm a bit to late but yep......

I'm going to buy the Playstation 4 Pro despite the fact that I already have a Playstation 4 because I want a better gaming experience. Makes no sense to not purchase the Playstation 4 Pro unless you can't afford it though.

@Longaway No is my answer im not buying those €30 plus for a movie no Thank you.

I was seriously considering it as I was watching the reveal, but I opted against preordering it.
If I had a regular PS4 I would've kicked that thing straight to the curb & got the Pro. But when I see those gold words: 'Sic Parvis Magna' engraved on my limited edition 1TB UC4 PS4, I know I just couldn't do it.

Greatness from small beginnings. Hope Sony doesn't forget that. Those 40million+ base models are the reason for Sony's recent financial upswing.
In general I'm happy about the Pro & mid-gen upgrades. It offers more choice and ensures a better product for the next generation of gaming.

@Devotion In fact, not buying a PS4 Pro makes as much sense as not having the best PC rig possible, but one that's more than good enough to play all games you want.
I understand it's a must for people who want the best possible gaming experience, like you, but having bought a PS4 less than a year and a half ago, there's no way I can justify to myself giving the same amount of money to Sony yet again for these little improvements.

@DerMeister I'm in the same boat. Don't have a PS4 and no 4k TV so my choice is original solus or the slim. I live in Vietnam which limits my choice a wee bit, but can i ask why you are not interested in the Slim? I was tempted to get this if indeed its a bit quieter and smaller.

I have a flakey launch unit with auto-eject issues, but it also has a 2TB drive loaded with games. After the Pro announcement, I had to really gut-check on what I wanted to do about it. Decided to pull the 500MB Uncharted (Black Friday) unit out of my mancave and switch the HDDs. I'm starting over from scratch, but I now have a new 2TB unit that works 100% on my main TV. My launch unit will serve well enough in the basement and the other factor was GameStop only gives you $150 for PS4s now. Those Pros won't be cheap, I can't justify it. After Scorpio, Sony will feel obligated to announce the PS5 anyway.

Not going to get a Slim or a Pro, I only got my PS4 this March and I'm not bothered at all with getting new hardware, partly because it's too much money, partly because I just don't need an upgrade.

I've just read that apparently some game publishers may charge additional fees for 4k patches. So to get the most out of the new setup, I need a new ps4 pro, a 4k TV, and addition patch fees, on top of the games themselves and a plus sub to play online. I really really want to get excited for this new way of doing things, but the more i read, the more I look forward to whatever Nintendo have planned. Reminds me of the Atari Jaguar days, when the big companies were just involved in a numbers spitting war. Of course I reserve the righto do a 180 if it turns out peaches and gravy, I'm just slightly apprehensive...

Maybe, I want to see what game that's supported. If bloodborne, the witcher 3 and gta 5 is supported I'll sold my old ps4 and buy the pro.

@Thebenman You read that on kotaku right, sigh.. They already update it, it's mistranslation on kotaku part.

@fchinaski

Doubling the TFLOPs, increasing CPU clocks, adding a better WiFi card and a 1TB HDD for only $100 more is 'little improvements'? If you have a 4K TV then the difference between slim and pro is a blurry experience, because the TV has to do heavy upscaling, versus a significantly clearer experience. If not then you'll still get better graphics and performance than on the slim. Where the standard and slim has slowdowns and stuttering, the pro most definitely won't have it on 1080p because it has double the TFLOPs, so... That justifies it... But people are free to make their own choices though.

I'm not going to get the slim or Pro. For a minor boost in performance, no 4K video player, and the price for what you get it's just not worth it. Atleast with the NX it's going to be a whole new system. Face it Sony should've updated the CPU and GPU and the $400 price point would've been acceptable but once again Sony is starting to get greedy and take shortcuts just like the PS3 era.

I'll hold out for the next full version of whatever they call the PSV and get a big 4k TV to go with it. Already opened an account for it

@Pink_Floyd

You think that doubling the TFLOPs is a 'minor boost in performance'? lol...

CPU 'update' won't happen until the AMD Zen is released in 2017, so...

Probably why Microsoft is releasing Scorpio in Q4 2017.

@Devotion I totally understand that this justifies the purchase for some people, not for me though. However, it will be interesting to see how much of a difference we'll actually see when the games start beign patched and when new games arrive, such as GoW for instance. I believe they will be largely cosmetic, but I might be wrong. Either way, I don't see myself upgrading. I hope you'll be very happy with your PS4 Pro though!

No interest in either slim or pro all the time my original better looking Ps4 is working fine..which it is.

Preordered and paid for the PS4-pro to compliment the up and coming PSVR. Will consider getting a slim when my launch PS4 dies.

I'll likely cough up for a Pro and a 4K TV at some point next year. Right now, I'm in no real rush. Also waiting to see exactly how much better most games run on the Pro compared to the PS4.

I still think the Pro is a bad idea and the press conference kind of cemented that thought for me. I don't want mid-cycle console refreshes and even if I did I'd probably wait for the Scorpio since it will out-perform the Pro in every way. I honestly see very little in the way of positives for this move.

Nope, zero interest in the Pro, less than before the big reveal tbh. Don't have a 4k TV in the study use a gaming monitor, already got a 2tb HDD, plus the pro looks dreadful imo. I can't see it having a long shelf life personally, if the Scorpio is out in just over a year then how long before they announce the Pro 2 - I'm going to hold off and see how console developers are going to adjust to this change.

Only hard ware I'm excited to learn more about at the moment is the Nintendo NX.

If however you have a decent 4k TV and small HDD etc I can see some merit in upgrading but I'll wait to see if these half steps are actually going to stick.

Microsoft now releasing games on Windows 10 and PS Now coming to PC (would they ever stream current gen... Who knows), there is more and more reason to just get a gaming PC.

I'll just end up getting whatever is a good place to play good games and I'm not seeing that at the moment. One thing that does worry me is even if they say games work on ps4 etc, what if we start to see some releases in the future that run like **** on PS4 but ok on the pro... That'll cause some interesting reading.

_{@Cron_13 Please watch the language - you won't be warned again.}

Most likely not buying a pro. Ill do like I have done with every ps lifecycle. Play the launch system until it sh!ts out or someone else in the family finally wants one then go buy myself the slim model. This usually happens towards the end of the gen. lifespan so guess we'll jus have to wait and see what kinda prices n bundles we gots to play with. If anything Ill try out the NX first. Never was a huge nintendo guy but I first started playing games on the NES as a lad so can't totally hate em. This is the last chance for them tho, last time I dropped $300 and it got played maybe 7 times...and there it sits. Definitely waiting for a solid line up before purchasing, and thats a problem Ive never had with PlayStation...ever! Sony4life baby!!

As another person without any 4K or HDR enabled tech, I won't be getting one. Whilst the Pro reveal didn't excite me, what it did do was allow me to go ahead with the decision to upgrade my ps4 hard drive to 2TB. Otherwise I would have put the money towards the Pro.

What I don't understand though is all the hate for the Pro either in relation to it being labelled a mid-cycle upgrade or Sony not making a product that could compete with the Scorpio.

Firstly, I don't really see it as necessarily the start of a pattern of mid-cycle upgrades because it isn't really. Sony are providing a console with a better GPU with no stand-alone games and a very weak marketing pitch of "we're asking developers to consider adding higher graphics fidelity options to their games". Unless games come out whereby having the Pro means you can play games and access functionality of other games that you can't with the og PS4, it's merely a way of addressing the emerging 4K and HDR TV market. I would suggest that now that has been established, the PS5.5/slim when it's released will have, what we see at that time as, only minor improvements, again not greatly impacting on og PS5 owners. 6k and above is a diminishing return visually.

Secondly, people are annoyed because of the inability of Sony to release a console to compete with Microsoft's CLAIMED specifications????? Whilst I don't doubt they will release the Scorpio as a more powerful console, please remember that they have shown NOTHING to prove that the specs are feasible (or can be built at a consumer-friendly RRP) and that the finished article will be as was originally dreamt up by Microsoft. Also, I don't see the Scorpio as being a mid-cycle release, it will be Microsoft's new gen system and I think Sony never intended for anything but the PS5 to be the Scorpio rival.

_{@Cron You were told several times to warch the language. -Tasuki-}

lmao a 4K console on my TV which i think can just about do 1080

Yes, no, maybe.

Those were the right answers, right? Did I pass?

Lack of a 4K Blu Ray player means I won't be buying the Pro for my games room.

I did answer no earlier and still stick to that. For me the increase in performance is nice and games will no doubt look better. But the bigger qustion and answer for most people is do you have a 4k TV? and there is the issue. The market is already limited to people owning a 4k TV so its not like launching the PS4 when everybody could own it and play all the games. With this you need to own the 4k Tv or its pointless. It would be interesting to know the figures of people owning 4k Tv and those who also game. Along with those who will be looking to buy one in the next few years.

I do not even watch normal TV in HD and only slected films in HD so not likely to make the jump in gaming to 4k.

@dryrain

You're completely wrong though. If you have a 1080p TV then you'll get better graphics and a much smoother performance with the PS4 Pro than with a PS4 Slim / standard edition. This is what people don't seem to understand right now. If you get slowdowns and/or stuttering, that you do get quite often on the standard PS4, you won't get it with PS4 Pro AND you'll get better graphics... And faster loading, and better WiFi, and so on...

PS4 Pro has double the TFLOPs... Do the math...

I'll get one eventually. I have the right TV, but the lack of the UHD drive really was for me a deciding factor to wait for a good sale rather than a day one purchase. With the old PS4 getting the HDR upgrade I'll be happy to play around with that for a while before jumping onto the "triple decker" Pro train.

No chance. I sat on the fence with PS4 and XBox1 and glad I did. Why would I get a PS4 Pro when in a year I can get a Scorpio that plays all games released and were slated on XBox1 for running on under powered hardware, better than a PS4 Pro and backwards compatability with my 360 games?

I'll wait until Playstation VR, Scorpio and NX will be out, and then I will see if and what I am gonna buy...

my only issue with the ps4pro is it needs to have 2 hdmi ports on it one for the video output straight to your tv and one for your audio much like a 4k blu ray player has at present it has not been confirmed it will have this and most av amps either dont support 4k yet or their are insanely expensive

@Oi_Oi_Spanky

But then Sony release a more powerful console a few months after Scorpio. And then Microsoft release a more powerful console six months later. And then Sony... Oh, it looks like you can never buy a new console because a better console will be released six months to a year after it...

I welcome console players to the new generation of consoles that will be similar to PC hardware refresh and upgrade cycles... And I love it. It's great for gamers who wants a better experience.

At the moment im happy enough with my white ps4. I don't have a 4K TV either so not much point. Rather wait to see what NX is going to be and get that.

Not anytime soon.

Day one, baby, day one...
BTW, if you don't have a 4K TV, the Pro is still going to improve games - better FPS, better textures, more environmental details. Most places are offering it for €150 or €200 with a trade in of the 1GB or 500MB original PS4.
So it's not expensive - price of a decent night out.
Don't get all the negative feelings towards it.

Plus 4K TV sets will be about €1300 for a really good model in January....time to start saving or sell some crap.

@DerMeister
Really????
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-hands-on-with-the-playstation-4-slim-cuh-2000

@General_Spiller
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-hands-on-with-the-playstation-4-slim-cuh-2000

@Boomtown_Raider
Well put sir.

@Devotion

That's the way it's always been. I didn't buy a Super Nintendo because I didn't think my Megadrive was a load to knob after seeing the specs of the thing. I have no idea where your timescale of new console releases come from but if that was the case, I'd just get the best every 6 years.

Nah. I want a new laptop and phone before I get a new console. I'm also interested to see how Breath of the Wild turns out because I've been hankering to play a new Zelda, which means I'll need a U or NX.

If my ps4 breaks then maybe I'll buy a Pro otherwise no

@Devotion Then just get a PC, the games are cheaper, the sales are better, online is free, things like EA Access and mods are not stopped by the platform holder (since there isn't one) and the upgrades are cheaper than replacing the entire unit. Consoles can't compete with PC in its own playing field, but they did have there own charm when you knew their top tier lifespan was 5-6 years or more.

I'm very happy with my PS4, have no desire to upgrade until PS5.

Ps4 pro is worthless

Bought the PS4 7 months ago, why should I get another one? And that meeting didn't convince me whatsoever to move to the Pro. Sorry Sony.

I said earlier you could get $150 for a used PS4 at GameStop, but apparently that's not the case anymore due to price drops on new units. Now you only get $125, that's not going to make the Pro easier on anyone.

I will buy a PS4 pro if my current PS4 breaks.

No dodgy updates though Sony I will be watching.

no dont have a 4k tv and wont anytime soon so im not at all fussed if my ps4 packs in ill get a slim

well unless my PS4 breaks, it's a no on either slim or pro for me. it's not that i can't afford a pro, i just don't see anything particularly necessary about it. wasn't convinced beforehand, and still not after it's revealed. i'm not going to be buying a 4K TV anytime soon - i have a 3D TV, and that turned out be a quickly forgotten fad.. 8K TVs are already coming to market, and what's not to say that in 3 years time 8K is going to be the latest thing, or some new revolutionary type of display. pro/scorpio seem to me more like vehicles to sell more 4K TVs. and even if 4K does have a reasonable market in 3 years time, we'd be due a PS5 by then, and it's really not going to seem much of a wow factor over PS4 pro.

consoles need games not more pixels.. i haven't played anything since platinuming ratchet & clank, and UC4 about 3 months ago. and nothing really interests me that much for the rest of the year.. since AAA games seem to be in development forever these days and frequently never release on time, stuff i was interested in isn't coming out now til 2017.. and wouldn't surprise me if we don't see new GoW or Days Gone til 2018. apart from the TF2 and BF1 betas (neither of which gripped me), my PS4 has been nothing more than a media streaming device. i even prefer to watch blu-rays on my PS3 - i have the remote control for it, and the playback interface is much nicer imo.

Who the hell are these 6% who dont own a PS4 yet?

@Cron_13 lol

@Longaway absolutely! Glaring omission. I'm not buying a slim or a pro. I'd be more likely to buy a scorpio seeing as it so far at least, appears to be a proper upgrade rather than a bit more grunt. I have a launch machine and unless it breaks I'm sticking with that.

@carlos82
I'm moving in couple of months and have reminded my wife she promised me an oled 4k telly, if I can spend over 2k on that the pro is a shoe in

I'll likely be picking up a PS4Slim this holiday, but only if it's still possible to upgrade the HDD like the original PS4.

As for PS4Pro, some company would have to give me a helluva good trade-in deal. But even then, the wattage consumption is really concerning.

Wow, a PlayStation site and hardly anyone wants to buy the new more powerful PlayStation. I wonder if these sentiments are shared across other sites?

eventually will be buying.. as in, after whenever I'll buy a new tv or when the current PS4 breaks..

For me to buy a Pro it would have to deliver more than prettier graphics which was the main part of the meeting. I only have a 720p TV and cannot really afford a new one so I won't benefit from it and games look pretty enough to me already.

If they improve AI and gameplay then I would re-think it.

Interesting poll results. Looks like at the time of writing only 261/266 people have the patience to fully answer a 3 question survey.

Also simply based on the Pro results 28% are definitely getting it and only 48% are not interested whatsoever. That's a pretty high percentage of gamers that at the very least are interested to upgrade so why not offer them the chance without splitting the player base. I also reckon this is going to sell surprisingly well to the casuals particularly as its releasing before the holiday season. Little Timmy has to have a better PlayStation than Frankie Jr. across the road.

the Pro really seems to be good for those who need a reason to upgrade from previous Gen not current owners.

Especially since I noticed that PS4 Pro 4K game seem mostly like a resolution upgrade, the textures still look pretty poor in most of the games I've seen.

@Dan_ozzzy189 Haha have you checked the facts properly?! 47% said no to pro however 29% said yes to Pro and the rest undecided. So far 43million PS4s sold to date. But for theory let's say 33million play regularly. If 30% want to upgrade (with 29% undecided) that's an estimate demand of 11million pros in the first week to 3 months! That's crazy money! £3,500,000,000.00!!!! £3.5 billion lovely notes in under 3 months! And then there's all the new gamers to join the PS4 community! That's like currently 1-2 million new players each month, with 10-15 million new gamers over holiday period. That's like an extra 20-25 million new PS4 gamers within the next 12month's. Dude do you see the positives 😄 Haha so according to my maths that could be 20million PROs sold by Xmas 2017..... so within one year PS4 PRO could sell what Xbox one has taken in 3 years! Crazy momentum !!

This poll perfeclty captures the issue with the pro. Unlike the new 3ds xl, there is no reason for existing ps4 owners to buy the pro. I don't have a 4k tv and neither do the majority of ps4 owners or people in general.

No new system for me. Mine works just fine. It reminds me of DVD to Blu-ray. Yes it looks better, but not that much better. Add to the fact my TV is not 4k and all future games will still work on my current system. No need to upgrade.

Probably will get a Pro but not immediately. I'm in no rush so will wait until the dust settles and see how it gets on.

I'm more interested in the NX than anything.

Despite high fiving myself for predicting the name-change on here before the reveal stream, I probably won't be shelling out for one. AI won't be smarter, maps won't be bigger, so games will have to REALLY look beautiful to tempt me. But as with Unchartered 4, Star Wars Battlefront, PES 2017 etc etc, the PS4 really is fine for looks!

I wonder how many people bought a PS3/XB360 and played that on CRT TV? This is similar!

People have been criticising the 'performance' of games - not managing to stay 'stable' at 30/60fps, games releasing at under 1080p so Sony build a console certainly capable of delivering 1080p in games like BF1, TF2 (which will be 900p on PS4) and that's wrong! They could have just released the PS5 and effectively replaced the PS4 but NO they built an iterative console that benefits both 1080p and 4K HDR TV owners - something built not to eclipse the PS4 and make it redundant but to exist alongside it and benefit console gamers but it seems most here would rather have something to complain about with their games...

Don't whinge that games have frame rate drops, releasing at under 1080p, hace screen tear, texture pop in, can't handle a bit of fog etc - just put up with it on your PS4/Slim and I will enjoy a better console gaming experience than you!

i don't own a HDR TV so i will not be getting one

Buying a slim for my daughters and trading in my PS4 towards my PS4 Pro

@fchinaski @General_Spiller I was ruling out the Slim mainly because I didn't think you could swap out the HDD if you needed to. I don't enjoy deleting games just to play more, so I figured I'd need a 2 TB drive. But after reading @blah01's link, I don't have to worry about it, so I'll get the Slim if I can't find a launch model for cheap.

@themcnoisy I'm one of the 6%. Apparently, the roof over my head and the food in my fridge are more important than a game console.

My 1215A model is quite, does not over heat, and will only be a year old this xmas.

My plan is for a new tv this fall/winter and my next console purchase no sooner then 2017 when i can have the option of the Scorpio.

Never saying no to pro, but absolutely no intention right now. I only got my ps4 last year, and have no plans for a new console for a while - maybe nx if the talk of it being a handheld hybrid are true. No interest in xbox so scorpio not happening. Im still in the camp of the technical capability of a console being the same from launch, until next gen is launched - maybe im old fashioned. I get why Sony had to do this, but no sale for me right now.

Not buying either. Already own a PS4, and don't need to buy another. Don't own a 4K TV either. If I buy any new hardware in the next couple years, it will be the NX.

I may pick up a slim for my bedroom, but if I do it will be at the expense of cancelling my PSVR pre-order.

Don't have plans to right now but that could change in the future. A lot will depend on what NX and Xbox Scorpio end up being and how they're priced.

Eventually when I get a 4k television I will get a Pro. Until then I am enjoying my normal PS4 on my normal HDTV.

Don't get me wrong- I have nothing against the PS4 Pro. I rather like it.

But my priorities go like this:

1 New platforms with new games I can't currently play without it
2 Revisions of existing platforms with zero new games

So PSVR is where my first $400 is going, and NX is where my second $400 is going. Once I own all the new platforms that bring new games that I wouldn't otherwise have access to, then I'll look at revisions for existing platforms.

YAaaaas

Voted maybe, because my current PS4 is having eject button issues and my controller isn't holding a charge very well

@rjejr It does seems wierd to have them as distinct questions. Even if you wanted to gather that metric it could have been a 3rd option "both" in a single poll.

I will get the PS4 Pro because I want to have the best Playstation experience available. With PSVR, and resource heavy games like FFXIV, I hope to get the most out of my console.

Nah. All the games I care about will work fine on a vanilla PS4.

I bought a 4K recently for the pro
And I do want to buy it but I am nervous about how it'll look, when you see advertisements for the pro like the graphics wise you'll be seeing that on a pc screen or phone or tablet, and if you go to check the pro out at a supermarket or something like that you know they'll run the pro on a 5 thousand pound tv or something so it'll look amazing, I just hope when I buy it the graphics will be a big jump not just a little..

Bonus question:

Will this effect whether or not you buy a PS5 at launch?

Most definitely!

This year Im buiyng psvr. Next year maybe pspro. We will see how bad will be new games on ps4 . What ive seen , psvr is ok on ps4.

Its a pity psvr wasnt here last holiday. It would be pretty positioned. This holiday there is too much hardware from Sony. Only good for newcomers. And maybe this is the answer.

Not that Im not happy for new hardware, but I was used to adopt best console tech. I have ps4 from january this year. It was before speculations appeared. If I knew it, i would wait for pspro and psvr. But of course I wouldnt pay for ps plus and buying games whole year. Really Smart from Sony .

With the Pro, I think you have to look at it like we do with mobile upgrades, do I want a faster phone with better display and is more stable = yes, do I want it this year, am I ready for an upgrade = not yet. Pro is a must for me when I have the cash so will likely get one next year. The whole UHD Bluray thing is not an issue for me either. I just want that extra power as soon as I'm ready. How many UHD Bluray disks are out there now anyway? I have never seen one in any shops (Australia).

Yep, I'm getting one to replace my launch ps model. I have a 55" 4k UHD telly so I will be able to make full use of it. The lack of a UHD blue ray player doesn't bother me at all as all the 4k content I use is streamed. Who on earth still buys 4k discs at £20 and more a shot? Sony have got it right I think sticking to streaming, that has to be the future. £350 is a good price although I think they should have gone for £450 and used the extra 100 to increase the console power even more, I know I would have gone for that.

@Saiyanknight87 So, you're going to trade in your PS4 and buy them a PS4?

@MidnightManiac I guess that depends on what you prioritise. If watching Blurays is your priority, then the XB1 is probably the best way to show the potential of HDR and your TV.
If gaming though is a priority, then the PS4 us definitely the best way to go as games will be at least 1080p with some even at native 4k. Horizon Zero Dawn may not be native 4k but its higher than 1080p and will also be in HDR - same with Days Gone. No other console will be delivering native resolutions above 1080p.
A lot of the games on XB1 will still be performing worse than they do on a base PS4 - lower resolution and frame rates. Its GPU is 3x less than the power of the PS4 Pro - let alone the difference in Memory bandwidth and CPU speed. HDR compliments the higher resolution - it shows of details in the dark areas as much as its about the brightness and vibrant colour.
As I have said, I am a little disappointed about the lack of a 4k HDR Bluray player but its not a deal breaker as I spend 99.999% of my time on consoles gaming. I don't buy a console to watch Blurays. If I want the 'best' 4k Bluray experience, I would buy a dedicated Bluray player which are quieter, more energy efficient and have a much better sound option than the XB1 - the XB1 doesn't support HD, Dolby Atmos or DTS-x sound...
Even in the 'older' PS4 games, those with dynamic resolution and/or unlocked frame rates, the PS4 Pro will give a much better and smoother experience. We have seen what the 'slight' increase in power brought to games on the XB1s...
Even those without 4k HDR TV's will see a 'significant' level of improvement in there gaming. All those games at 900p will be at 1080p and probably with a higher level of visual effects too. Let alone the higher and/or smoother frame rates...

@BAMozzy OOPS i meant to put HDR TV, not HD TV

i really need to get my keyboard fixed half the buttons don't work when you first press them

Pre ordered my Pro, if they are going to make a better console I need to buy it. I love MP game's and i'll be at a disadvantage if I dont. I don't care if i'll be able to watch my movie's in 4k and I don't give a toss about Netflick's either it's about that draw distance and the FR for me and increased visual's ofc.

I'm content with my existing PS4 and 1080p tv.

Nope. And I'm really concerned about this mid-upgrade crap that looks like will be the standard practice from now on. The good thing about consoles used to be the certainty that you would be all set for 5-6 years. What is this now? Why didn't they put that whole effort to improve the vanilla PS4 with better and better firmwares instead of making a new console?? Either the original PS4 was crap to begin with or they are just greedy bastards. Either way I'm disappointed with Sony. I'll keep my PS4 till is dead and when the 5 is out I'll consider if keep on with Sony products.

@JaxonH finally some sensible reply.

@FullbringIchigo HDR is a spec for 4k. Part of the minimum requirement is the 2160p so therefore I expect only 4k TV's will offer HDR. I know gaming is offering HDR at lower resolutions but its kind of in a transitional phase at the moment - somewhere between HD and full 4k - particularly on console.

If we do see 1080p (and under) HDR games (like the XB1s offers and Sony seem to be offering), these will still need to be played on a 4k HDR TV and of course upscaled to fit the screen. In some ways it could make the games look better, more vibrant etc, but it could also highlight the lack of detail, the lower resolution (jaggies etc) and make things like screen tear, texture pop in etc much more obvious too.
It can still be a great 'introduction' to HDR gaming and quite possibly be spectacular at most times too. Uncharted 4 is an incredible looking game on PS4 without HDR. I still think its more of a way to sell the PS4 Pro to people with the 4K HDR TV's. Imagine Horizon: Zero Dawn (for example) when Aloy hacks that giant beast, with all the electricity and lights 'glowing' like Neon - really bright and vibrant at 1800p+ or the detail in the Blacks when you through a Molotov at the 'Zombies' with the fire glowing like a real fire would....

Nope, have no need for it.

Not getting PS VR so.

No. Not worth it, just like the iPhone 7. I love the PS4, but the current model is good enough.

@Grawlog Cheers for your reply bud. I've taken that out, even stood my PS4 on a couple of DVD cases to lift it up further and it still spits them out, sometimes even when it's in rest mode. I'm sure it's possessed by something 😕

When my current PS4 dies (which, with the amount of time I play, it eventually will) I'll replace it with the Pro. Won't cost more than I originally paid, & it's an upgrade. Nice that we'll have the choice between it & the cheaper Slim.

I voted no on slim and pro. Got a nice working ps4 right now. However, I do have plans of getting a second TV so my son and I can play online games together. By the time I have the money for that, 4k TV's should have nice deals, then I'll get a pro. I may get one sooner if the Sony has an awesome collector's edition, like the dragon quest in Japan. Doubt it though. US only got bloodborne and shooters. So disappointed.

Owning a PS4 currently, the best time I wager to purchase a pro will be a launch, as that will be the time that I will be able to get the most money from my original PS4 (Slim is $299, so figure at least $200 for original)

@ricklongo totally agree.
Personally I think there was barely any need for the PS4 when it released. Hence the 24 month of PS3 "remasters" of existing HD games.

Now the software has finally started being released for PS4 , we need a new PS4?????

Give it a rest Sony.

Some of this makes me think they need people to empty their pockets so they've none left for a dabble into NX. Sony definitely don't want another Wii situation on their hands.

The lack of 4K Bluray is going to force me to buy an Xbox 1 S, thank you Sony for your decision to keep the price of the PS4 Pro down, but you then in turn helped you competition. I refuse to go buy a 4K bluray player because for a similar price I can buy something that will also play video games and has a little more apps in their community. Kind of a let down, but hey I guess the price is a little lower.

Yesterday I was on the fence about buying one, but my PS4 is starting to have the auto disk eject problem really bad and my warranty ran out years ago, so I might as well buy a Pro to replace it instead of the Slim. I can wait... even though I have so many games to play in October and Deus Ex... I can definitely wait. It'll be difficult.

I've been wanting to replace my PS4 anyway since it has the auto eject disc fault.
But beyond that, I want my games to run/look better.

I'm going to play Silent Hill 3 on my PS2.

nope. I'd be much more intersted in a Vita2....

It depends. The 4K thing is meaningless to me since I neither have or want a 4K TV. The framerate upgrade is more of an issue for me. TW3 was terrible on PS4 because of the framerate. The FFXV demos have been depressingly bad experiences because of low and inconsistent framerates. Bloodborne ran like crap at first and even after patches still had a low framerate. The list goes on

If FFXV comes put running like its demos have, I'll be more tempted to get a Pro. If games keep coming out running that badly, I'll get more tempted. If games like FFVIIR, TLG, KnK2, DQXI and KH3 run badly, I'll feel like I absolutely need one.

Thing is, it also depends how many of them also come out on PC. When a game is also on PC, I'll get it there instead. That said, most of those games will definitely never come out on PC.

I'd actually be more likely to consider it if they hadn't launched it so cheap without first dropping the price of the original units further.
I paid the same price months ago.
I can't help but feel a bit cheated.

I have a perfectly good 1080p TV. TV's with 4K and HDR that have low input lag and good general qualities are far too expensive for at least a couple of years I think. Sony should have pushed developers to improve 1080p performance if they wanted to ensure good take up of the Pro. Take Mass Effect: Andromeda, they've flatly said no to 1080p improvements on the Pro.

This is totally disappointing to hear.

Most definitely if I didn't have payments on my current vehicle I would have pre-ordered the VR headset and the pro last Wednesday! Luckily for me my stepfather is planning on getting his nephew of PS4 so once I negotiate with him and if he agrees to buy mine along with the camera and one game and there's my money for a pro but if he says no Then I'll keep my launch and save up for a pro along with a 4K HDTV! I found 2 for around eight hundred bucks!!!