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@ShogunRok So yeah, that last comment was a bit d*ckish, sorry.

But I do think that your Nintendo comment I think it was hyperbole. I don't think anyone has said what you inferred and if they did that's silly. Its easy to go off topic with that sort of statement, and you should probably know that.

but ultimately all this talk of winning does is fuel destructive behavior that honestly isn't very fun. Where I disagree with you is that the publishers can't win. All of these discussions are them winning. Its all marketing. They actively drive it and Sony has, over the last few years, pushed this behavior more than just about any other publisher.

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@ShogunRok I've grown accustomed to seeing people spew hilarious hyperbole on a regular basis - hell, I've done it myself

But what actually makes a good press conference? What convinces us that a publisher is at the top of its trade?

You can't look at the Metroid Prime 4 announcement, which consisted of a title screen, and exclaim "Nintendo won E3!"

@Hordak very much agree with you. Except I quite enjoyed a lot of Federation Force and even loved Other M (gasp!). I'm excited for both Metroids, but also several other games announced. I also think they did an incredible job with the tone of the presentation, the presenters, the Dev interviews etc etc.

Everyone did ok, but I found Sony's pretty monotonous and violent. Mainly I wanted a lot more variety and fun from them.

@doctommaso agreed! I thought the Nintendo presentation was filled with great content and overall positivity. I just think it's silly for the article to make it sound like they 'won' because of a single logo. So dismissive and does not acknowledge the actual value of what Nintendo did.

Oh crap, they didn't like the angry white men killing things, or our PS4 owners only online laws, make some promises and get to work!

Is anybody pointing at the Metroid Prime 4 logo and saying Nintendo 'won' E3.

I hate saying anyone 'won' E3, but one logo certainly does not do it.

My dad is stronger than your dad

@Flaming_Kaiser But its the Switch - you don't have to!

but I'm not trying to start a war - I'm just so sad I can't spend more tv time, and so can't really keep up with these lovely games. Still haven't played ff15. just started Nier and know it will take months to finish.

I'd equally love this on Vita.

I would so prefer this on Switch - I'll never be able to finish it on a tv!

aaah, hubris. Does it actually start with the fans?

@JoeBlogs For me it would be taking all aspects into account. It would be silly to just buy for 4K. But I have all the non Xbox systems from this gen and last She only reason to buy a PS4 pro is for the minimal upgrade from PS4. For me that is totally not worth it.

But I never had an Xbox before. I won't get an XOX at launch for sure, but with a small price drop its pretty attractive. 4K (I'm soon to upgrade my TV), access to many older games that I've never been able to play, and presumably it will have the same devkit features of other Xbox Ones, and since I'm dabbling in Unity, that's cool.

So it may seem expensive, but it offers me a lot. And in choosing between XOX and Pro, all I will miss out on are a few Sony exclusives in 4k, which look pretty good on my PS4 already.

Has me way more interested than PS4 pro. With a price drop and just a few games more per year I'm in. Backwards compatibility is also a big win for me personally.

Sony is, I think the only one that is not at an acceptable time for internationals. Very rude!

In terms of hardware, they should be terrified. It seems so far beyond PS4 Pro. But they have nothing to fear because they don't just have an edge in terms of content, they're leagues ahead!

They sure do work well together, but ultimately they still compete for my time, and therefore my money. I've barely touched the PS4 in the last 3 months, but am finally getting Nier, so all that is about to change.

A list of super expensive things you really don't need. Awesome.

PS+ falls in the same category as microtransactions for me.

But does it run at 60fps on PS4 Pro!

@get2sammyb disagree, the 2nd one is fantastic!

Dick Wilde?

Isn't early access wonderful!

Aren't they doing this already? When was the last time a game did not get a massive series of patches and updates ? I only buy playstation games 3 to 6 months after release to avoid the early access.

When I use echolocation it looks completely different! I wonder who their consultant is?

Not interested in fanboy wars. What's going to be really interesting is what this means for the real next generation. PS5 and NeXtbox will now have to be substantially more powerful that Scorpio to validate their existence in 3 to 4 years.

Or will there just be more incremental updates?

Controls look cool, but the cliched collect the glowy things , get the gems, end of level rating thing is just dull and takes an original concept and turn makes it seem incredibly mundane to me.

I care! Looking forward to finally playing the complete edition next year!

This year is great so far, but can Sony sustain it? They seem to have heavily loaded the first half of the year

Finally caught up with Wii U then, well done Sony

OMG you just said Switch!

Or maybe I don't pick sides and just love gaming?

Game was OK, but the story made little sense to me, and I hated constantly changing characters. Never knew what I was meant to be doing or why. Normally not an issue in a shmup, but when they kept shoving the story down your throat...

Interesting to see if it works. Most people buying Switch at launch either have a PS4 , or don't want one. Sony will need to do this again come the end of the year, when it will matter more.

In the meantime many of us have chosen Switch and Zelda over Sony's competitive release schedule. I was planning to get Horizon and Nier at launch, but the timing means I'll only play them in June or so. I don't think I'm alone in that.

Wow this looks incredible. I was excited for it before, but this video has stuff I'd not seen before that just looks fantastic.

For me Zelda>Nier>Mass Effect

Dying to play all of them and any released by themselves would be day one purchase. Incredible month, but this many major releases strikes me as a bad plan.

I just don't see how these numbers can come close to retaining developer interest or be considered a success beyond the level of an experiment. I think VR is amazing, and would really love it to succeed, but i hope they're not relying on the current consumer market to attract developers.

Or they could have made it non-random?

I was so keen on this, until I heard it can take around 80 hours. No chance of finishing that this year.

And then the day after you buy this deal they'll start up selling you on Pro.

Hey if you buy this new console the games you already bought will work properly!

Except for some of them, which will be worse.

Never upgrade.

I was just noting that in particular it's taking ages to access the store. Like I got up to check my router too long.

They're putting a new IP up against Zelda. They'd better back it hard. I know I'll only be getting it months after launch because of this.

Gosh it must be nice to have huge piles of cash!

What they should be doing is ensuring that information on games is present and correct on the storefront. I find it particularly frustrating on Vita, where even screenshots are often absent.

I also find it weird that they prioritise what is effective the small print info over game descriptions, eg game requires a memory card.

Switch Fighter 2 is really appealing to me, but maybe for 10. 40 is lunacy!

It's nice that they're still supporting legacy hardware

But Sony has all the data they need for the development of PSVR2, why would they go on supporting a legacy platform?

I really hope we get a Revelations 3 as soon as possible. Those games are great.

I'm not confident I will enjoy 7

I would so much rather have this on Vita or Switch. Can't picture getting through it on the tv

So glad all that b*llocks from a few years ago about Japanese debelopers being bad is finally behind us! That was a stupid time.

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