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@LogicStrikesAgain When a game that is Co-op, live service, or multiplayer decides to use a Cartoon style its playing with fire from the get go. I think everyone will accept regular realistic graphics and give a game more of a chance, as opposed to the cartoon niche style. Not everyone likes the Cartoony style. So if you're gonna take a chance at something different like they did with this game, just keep it in Decima engine and try to appeal to everyone.

@charliecarrot TBH and this is just my opinion, Helldivers 2 did great and is still played heavily today. They should have just made it like that but in the Horizon world. I guess it would be another extraction shooter, but if done right in Decima vs the machines, with all the Horizon vibes, I think it would have the chance to crap all over Marathon, Highguard and prob Fairgames. Def not be up there with ARC raiders in player numbers, but be successful and sustainable for sure

We all know that when the internet is not kind to a game, it turns out like HIghguard, pretty much DOA. In Highguards case I do not care, cause we don't need another BS hero shooter. We just needed GG to work on horizon 3. I love the studio, so it will be ashame if the prelaunch anti-hype screws them out of Millions.

When Don't nod ditched the Life is strange series, I wish either Supermassive or Quantic dream would have taken over the reigns, instead of Square/Deck9. LIS double exposure was just ok, but maybe the yet to be released Reunion would be more hype worthy. Supermassive did have some duds, but overall theyre pretty good and this game looks great as well.

@Simu001 yes we all def have different tastes. I love all From's soulsborne games and obv Elden Ring. But Sekiro just didn't vibe with me for some reason. Well at least there's no shortage of great games for us to play no matter what our tastes.

@Simu001 I loved Wukong but I agree with you, there was crazy input lag in that game. When you are talking about Soulslike level difficulty where precision counts a ton, input lag can ruin the experience. I just learned to deal with it and enjoy it for what it was. But hopefully this will be a ps6 game and they'll have plenty of CPU headroom to have it running at 60fps without all the frame stutter that caused the input lag.

But it was a UE5 engine game, so what did we expect right?

Holy crap! somebody show that girl how to properly fillet fish. You never cut it directly through the middle the long way, straight through the bones. I put 30yrs into the restaurant business and thats what stood out about this tech demo lmao. just the way Im wired, i guess.

@Coolmusic Probably too early to have anything to show if they are making another Astrobot, but that game was fantasitc. Can't wait to see another entry in that world

@Dan12836666 yeah more then likely. But Ill have to say, if we get more of all that stuff but then they drop Intergalactic on us with a more in depth trailer and some gameplay, all will be forgiven. Its the only game that we know little about that I'm dying to see

We don't need time wasted on more 007, RE:req, or Phantom blade 0 on Thursday please. All already shown a ton. Concentrate on the newer and/or unannounced, lesser-known things

@samueljoshua i know, its crazy how when you buy a new game now the developer makes you date the main character for week. It's one thing to just control them on screen, but when they have to enter your real life. Yuccckkkkk!!!!

@OldGamer999 Hard to say about Horizon 3 cause this live service thing set them back. But maybe it was planned all along for ps6. we'll never know. And I'm def with you on killzone instead of this Coop Horizon trash. Killzone multiplayer was fun and different from BF and COD. I still remember Killzone 2 online, remember when you scored a kill it made that kill confirmed sound? It was kind of like a squeak-click sound. I still remember that tone like it was yesterday. A new killzone in DS2's ver. of Decima engine would be a banger of a game.

With Halo kind of being trash for ages now since 343 dropped that ball ages ago and BF just starting to get back to form, while COD is finally stumbling, there's much more room and need for a unique 1st party exclusive FPS shooter and its better setup to thrive right now.

I would love a new Resistance game first before Spiderman 3 as well. But it seems like Sony has no interest in a 1st party FPS shooter.

@OldGamer999 well said man. I tend to like to find the positives in these kinds of things so this is what I'll add. Man this is the perfect time for R* to be on the cusp of a new GTA game and for many reasons. The GTA affect has flooded our libraries with a ton of releases all last year and will be the same this year too. So despite Sony playing this live service card and fumbling on some big studios caught in that mess for now, we still have a crap ton of games to play. And then finally in NOV the beast of GTA will drop which will soften the blow even further. Saros, Wolverine, Phantom blade 0 to name a few in the near future pipeline as well.

So if there was a gaming drought on top of what Sony decided, this would be brutal. In no world should you be 5yrs into your console and your best studio (naughty dog) hasn't released yet and is still likely over a year away with Intergalactic.

And the last silver lining is, as i stated above, the thought of Horizon 3 being built on a ps6 version of Decima does indeed sound F'in awesome. Also, since everyone seems happy ps6 is likely pushed out way farther then 2027 and most thinking ps5 has plenty of legs left, this live service flub aligned Sony 1st party with ps6 launch territory. That would sure up great games at launch for the next gen. Esp if Horizon 3 is a launch game. Maybe Kojimas Physint can be launch day or window. Sucker punch would be far along in their next title by then.

To sum up, since there def is no shortage of great games to play right now and this live service blunder being washed out of their system by ps6, I have 100% faith Sony will right the ship in the coming years and ps6 will be back to the Sony we love.

If you want to find a silver lining in all this though, I'd have to say, the thought of a Horizon game running on a ps6 version of Decima engine does sound pretty amazing though

This is terrible news. Horizon FW will be 4yrs old this month and its barely being worked on? There was only 5yrs between H1 and 2. So to think that this Co-op rubbish set Horizon 3 back many years is crazy. Same thing with Interstellar. If it wasn't for that TLOU live service that didn't even see the light of day, we'd prob be playing Interstellar by now.

I stand by Sony. They will always be my preferred platform. But they sure are lucky Xbox really crapped the sheets the last 2 gens, or they'd be in deep.

@KillerBoy They didn't decide to do this game after Concord. Resources were already poured into this game long before they knew concord was gonna flop. Horizon FW will be 4yrs old this month already. So....

@twitchtvpat yeahhhhhhh

@ED_209 @RobN I agree, most PS fans just want one type of game. Epic AAA single player, story driven games. That is Sony's strength. Its actually perfect when you break it down. If we can only get them to stay focused on that.

PS studios should just focus on giving us the Horizons, Spider man's, TLOU's and God of Wars of the world and just let 3rd party handle the multiplayer, live service, sports, etc. And of course there's still great 3rd party AAA single player games we get as well. Such as Witcher/Cyberpunk, KCD, Hallow knight, Clair Obscur to name a few, you get the point.

The PS library would be just fine that way. There really isn't a need for them to try and be different. They are, and its clearly failing them. Concord (cancelled) This horizon game (lukewarm reception) GOW and TLOU live service (cancelled) Fairgames (TBD but not much faith) Marathon (lukewarm reception) Let 3rd party take all the chances (highguard) and fail (highguard) this way it doesn't push all our single player IP years out.

@Greifchen I love this franchise as well. I just look at these games as water under the bridge until we get the last game of the trilogy. They were probably targeting ps6 to begin with, unless 3 has been in production with a seperate team longer then we think. Horizon FW will only be turning 4 this Feb and its not a new IP, they use inhouse Decima engine. So I dont see a lengthy wait like how naughty dog hasn't even gone yet this gen.

Just like Nightreign, Fromsoft just needed to stop this multiplayer band wagon jumping and just work on Elden Ring 2. They're stupid. Guerilla the same. Just work on getting us Horizon 3. They are stupid as well.

@Bsb56 I agree, more multiplayer games, not hero shooters. Battlefield and COD carrying too much torch for years. Killzone and Resistance were different and competent shooters but gone now. Uncharted online modes were amazing, but just over. TLOU multiplayer was fantastic and people still play, but dated.

So yeah, we need more multiplayer games like that. Hero shooters like this rubbish, not so much.

@slabula there was no hype was dead on arrival after the GA's trailer looked like dogmeat

@slabula inaccurate. the game sucks and is bombing. sorry. this is the first weekend. friday is over and saturday is here, no increase in numbers. Kinda sad the weekend is when most people are off and the game is still stagnant. It will be forgotten about fast. This has to go down as the worst game awards trailer in history now that we see its performance. And the fact it was end of show makes it even more putrid.

Strong start? It went up to 90k players shortly after release, cause its free and alot of people wanted to try it after the infamous GA's trailer. Then it plummeted in just hours after that with the numbers staying abysmal. Far from a strong start. Unless only 2 hours of good numbers in a games whole life span classify as a strong start these days

just tried the demo. God this game looks putrid. The character models/textures are gross. The first TLOU remaster on ps4 craps all over this game and that wasn't a full on remake, just a remastered bump of a ps3 game.

Team Ninja gotta be the laziest F's in the industry. Rise of the ronin looked like dogmeat as well. We're in ps5 era. I don't expect everything to look like Decima. But damn, stop being lazy and get a F'in graphics engine already. No excuse for this slop

Does this game hold the record for the most amount of trailers ever, from announcement to launch?

The writing was on the wall this game looked like garbage at the GA's. Hopefully Concord and Highguard finally get it through to this industry that nobody wants a new Hero shooter. Don't waste your time. There's some decent talent at this studio, they could have made a brand new FPS story heavy shooter in the vain of a Halo or Killzone, but totally original.

what a total waste of time and resources this was.

@DennisReynolds why, she a total hottie or what? You gooning for Theresa? lmao

@TheArt Honestly, I never played KCD1. Idk why, I love RPG's. I did indeed play/beat KCD2 and absolutely loved that game. Maybe with a ps5 ver. of 1, I'll finally play it

@TheArt Who's Theresa, the local kitchen wench?

This game is taking so long, I just picture Levine in some room at the back of his house, that was converted from a garage, working on this game by himself. The smell of gasoline, motor oil and old rusty nails in a coffee can filling the air

@TheArt Lol why did you leave him at a church, to atone for his sins? Maybe he'll be a new man if you ever decide to return to the game.

@Boxmonkey I'm hoping you are dead wrong. There's been widespread reports that Sony is likely going to push the ps6 out to 2029-30 due to many reasons and the ram shortage as well. Waiting 3 to 4 more years for this would be brutal

"After closing out The Game Awards, there has been radio silence, which led many to believe that another Concord was upon us. That remains to be seen"

Just the fact that they are saying "it remains to be seen" still, after playing it, tells me all i need to know. Where's the confidence? Being a "concord" is the worst outcome imaginable. That game was shut down so fast after launch. And the article is still saying that's a possibility. Not what you want to hear in a hands on impressions piece

Intergalactic please! We've already seen enough of Wolverine, Saros, Marathon, Phantom blade zero to name a few. I need to see what this game is!

"put your hands where I can F'in see 'em!!!!. Thank you!!!!"

@dskatter I still find it hilarious they ended the game awards with a free to play, generic hero shooter. Just more rubbish nobody asked for. Last year our doors were blown off by Intergalactic as the show closer. I think it was safe to say people had tempered expectations. But there was prob 10 other games at the show that would have made a better closer then this

This game is like the Ex-presidents. "Forget it kid, they're ghosts!"

The title of the article is a dev quote. Its his politically correct way of saying "when we started making this game we obv had no idea that the xboxseries was gonna crap the sheets this Fin bad. Therefore, we need to release on the largest install base to actually try and make some $$$ on our hard work, and not get shafted by MS"

Why are gaming environments, lighting and player movement animations so lifelike these days when using a proper engine, but facial animations are still stuck in the 90's in 95% of games? lmao

During the showcase for this game, when talking about character creation, one of the devs said "i love medium jugs". I'm more of an a** man. I can't relate to this developer at all. Not one bit for some reason. And idk why. Oh yeah, and they are making a pottery game too apparently.

Listen, I applaud Double Fine for thinking outside the box here and trying something diff. This industry has been "samey" and "safe" for awhile. But a pottery MP game?

Brutal Legend was outside the box and different. Featured licensed music, iconic real world musicians etc. But stayed true to a video game in form with its mechanics/gameplay.

So why can't they think differently but make something more like Brutal legend instead of Pottery? lol even sounds crazy to the ear.

The first game was a solid competent RPG and this sequel could have been a great sophomore effort. But wtf, why all of a sudden shift the combat system from action RPG in the 1st game, to turn based for the sequel? They trying to be like Baldurs gate 3?

I can't stand turned based games I'll admit and I'm not hating on them for no reason. We all have our own tastes. I'm calling this out cause of the sudden drastic change from game 1 to the sequel. Why fix what's not broken? Esp moving to a whole new combat system. I guess they didn't sell enough copies of the 1st game to feel like they were abandoning fans?

I hope this is the next big AAA RPG. I need to scratch an itch with a fantasy RPG right now. Its been a minute since KCD2, prob no new fromsoft soulsborne game for awhile and witcher 4 a ways out. So its this and Lords of the Fallen this year and that is fine to me!!!

@GamingGod I don't have much interest in this game or the genre as a whole, but the way the ARC raiders community is bashing this game without even playing it at all, is gross. Fanboyism at its finest. I'll prob never try this game, but I did ARC raiders and the glazing is not justified. ARC raiders is a pointless repetitive mess

Is oblivion remastered patched and fixed yet? Maybe fix the games you got out already before you start thinking about shadow dropping any more broken messes.

@GirlVersusGame lol glad i could be of some kind of service in this life. That kids will be skeletons song in the scene i referred to is great. Its a great mix of melancholic and upbeat tones put together in one song. That kind of contrast usually makes for some epic songs. Couple that song with the scene from chaos theory and it just hits so hard

say what you want about where this series and even how these kind of games have fallen off since the OG LIS. But looking back, one the great moments in gaming is the Chaos theory act, with kids will be skeletons playing, max riding the bus to see what happened to Chloe, arriving at her house as a cliff hanger.

I wish the use of licensed music to set tones and atmosphere in story driven games, was more common in this industry. LIS hit it out of the park. A few other acts in that game ended in epic fashion with a song driving the scene

there's ogre's and creatures, or whatever you want to call them in the streets i see. I prefer my cyberpunk way more grounded in reality, with a living, breathing more human populated city like CDPR's cyberpunk. So whatever when it comes to this getting ditched.

the whole game, all the progress, the computers it was stored on, including all backup drives have been blown to bits. Have to start over. They will be announcing the 10yr delay later tonight in a official statement.