The problem with live service gamea nowadays is that they are trying to chase the same train of success of Fortnite. The problem is that it's already too little too late. Just look at Destruction All Stars. While I'm glad the developers tried to improve the game, because of the lack of any big updates (or any new characters) makes it obvious that the game's future is looking dim. If Sony is not leaning on supporting and improving destruction all stars, then who's to say they'll be any different with their other upcoming live service titles?
Sony should stick to what they do best. Single player games with optional multiplayer modes/components. It's a shame cause their IPs have potential for some MP growth. Imagine a Monster hunter style Horizon spinoff, or a hero shooter more for Rift Apart, or even something like GoT:Legends for God of war or spiderman 2. Dumb ideas I know, but still...
Lots of live service games right now are either getting shut down, having their support cut short, or are struggling to provide a profit for the devs. Really feels like live service is slowly losing steam. Now I'm worried for destruction all stars.
Literally just give up on it. Hell, even live service games like Fallout 76 look more exciting than Skulls and Bones. If all you really gonna do in that game is just ship battles and nothing else, then I don't expect the game to maintain the players' attention for a long time.
"how you play will 'change the outcome of how the game responds as a consequence'."
Not gonna lie, I'm kinda getting tired of this selling point because most of the time, it's almost never a huge deal. And at worst, it's straight up lying lol hope I'm proven wrong.
They will also publish Convallaria, which gives me hope that it will turn out atleast as good as Lost Soul Aside, because we barely heard much about Convallaria and the gameplay videos thye have shown were "meh" to say the least, though they could just be pre-alpha footage.
I hope the best for these two games. So far, I enjoyed some of the latest China Hero's latest outings like Anno and FIST, although In Nightmare didn't turn out as good as I expected at launch (the devs did try their best on fixing the game and even ported it to Steam but still...), so I'm still toning down my expectations lol
@LIMA great that you enjoyed it (i did too, though I'm still hoping the sequel expand more on the gameplay aspect) but you still really need to give Nioh a shot. Ignore some of the game's etilist fans though and there's a good reason why Sony loved the game so much that they went as far as to publish the games for the Playstation version (which probably explains why Nioh coming to Xbox is highly unlikely, as said by the devs). The only thing that might put you off are certainly the difficulty spikes (and the loot system if you' weren't a fan of that in games like Borderlands or Destiny).
Wouldn't be surprised if it's some chesp mobile knockoff. You'd be surprised to see how mamy mobile games there are with names staken from other games.
@Coolmusic agreed. Plus, if there was ever a pvp option to leat you fight as your own character, I really doubt it's gonna go well due to their exploitable and customizable hitbox.
Oof. Was kinda hoping for Sony to buy them. While Iron Man vr wasnt perfect, I thought it was solid and had a lot of potential. I can imagine a sequel being better. Maybe adding co-op where you can also play as war machine? Who knows.
Hoping this one ends up good, especially since guillermo del toro is involved. Still, considering it's from playstation talents, I'll tone down my expectations, since usually games from talents, especially horror ones, don't always turn out to be great due to their ambition.
This might as well be called Street fighter online or Capcom unirverse lol really surprised by the amount of content it has. Especially for a fighting game. Makes me wish more fighting games offered more content, though I understand that would cost many resouces.
@nessisonett true though just a quick heads up, the game didn't recieve glowing reviews (usually scores of 6 and lower) so dont get too excited lol this is just something playstation spain does at times (waves out was an example) and sadly not a lot of games from talents are usually hitters. A lot of them feel like bargain bin games, which is why you barely hear anything about them, despite there being many of them, so it's kinda hard to call it thriving. Well, for ps talents anyway. I'm sure the indie scene overall in spain is doing well, with the likes of blasphemous (spanish dub > english dub) and aragami.
@IronTruth hey, it could be worse. I'd take exposition over the characters dropping F-bombs every 10 second lol
Honestly, I just want the animators to work on the show. As for the writers, I definitely want them to be different, none from Castlevania that's for sure. Because if they make characters like Gyula or Gehrman constantly say swear words and s*x jokes, I'll be incredibly disappointed.
I personally don't mind remakes. I just wnat remakes of games that do deserve it.
Heck, if I'm being honest, I actually wouldn't mind a remake of Nathan Drake's first adventure, with combat as refined as UC4's, maybe sneaking in some new mechanics introduced in UC3/4, improving the Ai, and maybe even make the final boss actually, you know, fun lol since uncharted is still a popular sony IP, I think it could work.
Also, we're in due for a God of war remastered collection. Sales could sky rocket thanks to God of War 2018 and Ragnarok's popularity.
Again, I think remasters and remakes are fine, and I'm not surprised Sony is making them as "appetizers". Still, really makes me miss the time were Sony were showing off many of their upcoming games left and right.
@theMEGAniggle it's a joke lol though at this point, anything can happen. Wouldn't be surprised if Spiderman or even God of War 2018 gets a remake in the next 2 or 3 years.
Unironically more excited for the Multiplayer spinoff than the remake.
Honestly, just remaster the game for just $50. There's no need to make a $70 paywall for new accesability options. If sony wants to remake games...then just remake the ones that deserve it! Jak and Daxter, legend of dragoon, war of the monsters, killzone, the god of war trilogy, resistance, starhawk, or even freedom wars. At this point, expect a Spiderman, Ghost of tsushima or death stranding remake lol
It's a shame. One of the few better recent MP titles Sony has given us.
Which reminds me...it's just now that I remembered that Hardware rivals also got its servers shut down last year, and I only knew about that because of one guy on Gfaqs lol
About time we heard something from Evotinction. Hopefully other china hero games like AI Limit and Convalleria also get something new soon (the former especially).
If sony really wants to tackle live service games, then they should definitely bring back Warhawk. Heck, the gameplay is perfect as it is, with just a few tweaks needed. No need to go what Battlefield 2042 went through.
And for a modern one, a Starhawk revival could work as well. A PvPvE spaggheti western scifi shooter game with building gameplay and mecha fights? Sign me up!
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Re: Talking Point: Should Sony Be Worried by Live Service Implosion?
The problem with live service gamea nowadays is that they are trying to chase the same train of success of Fortnite. The problem is that it's already too little too late. Just look at Destruction All Stars. While I'm glad the developers tried to improve the game, because of the lack of any big updates (or any new characters) makes it obvious that the game's future is looking dim. If Sony is not leaning on supporting and improving destruction all stars, then who's to say they'll be any different with their other upcoming live service titles?
Sony should stick to what they do best. Single player games with optional multiplayer modes/components. It's a shame cause their IPs have potential for some MP growth. Imagine a Monster hunter style Horizon spinoff, or a hero shooter more for Rift Apart, or even something like GoT:Legends for God of war or spiderman 2. Dumb ideas I know, but still...
Re: Knockout City Season 9 Will Be Its Last, Servers Shut Down on 6th June
Lots of live service games right now are either getting shut down, having their support cut short, or are struggling to provide a profit for the devs. Really feels like live service is slowly losing steam. Now I'm worried for destruction all stars.
Re: Naughty Dog May Move On from The Last of Us Like It Did with Uncharted
I think that's a good thing. They should let Naughty Dog make something new insteading of focusing on making sequels of their popular games.
Unless it's Jak though, which I'm completely fine with lol
Re: Skull and Bones Delayed Yet Again as Ubisoft Cancels Three Games
Literally just give up on it. Hell, even live service games like Fallout 76 look more exciting than Skulls and Bones. If all you really gonna do in that game is just ship battles and nothing else, then I don't expect the game to maintain the players' attention for a long time.
Re: One Piece Odyssey (PS5) - Anime Dragon Quest Is Oh So Good
We need more anime games like this and less mediocre arena fighters/pvp-focused ones lol
Re: God of War TV Series Will Stay 'True to the Source Material'
I honestly just hope it turns out to be more faithful than the Halo tv series.
Re: Departed Days Gone Game Director Says Sony Bend Punched Above Its Weight
Makes me glad he left the team tbh...
Re: Days Gone Director Blames Woke Reviewers, Programmers for Critical Reception
I have a feeling this guy is going to end up like David Jaffe sadly lol
Re: Amnesia: The Bunker Is a More Open-Ended Survival Horror Adventure
"how you play will 'change the outcome of how the game responds as a consequence'."
Not gonna lie, I'm kinda getting tired of this selling point because most of the time, it's almost never a huge deal. And at worst, it's straight up lying lol hope I'm proven wrong.
Re: Sony Will Publish Spectacular Action RPG Lost Soul Aside in 2024
They will also publish Convallaria, which gives me hope that it will turn out atleast as good as Lost Soul Aside, because we barely heard much about Convallaria and the gameplay videos thye have shown were "meh" to say the least, though they could just be pre-alpha footage.
I hope the best for these two games. So far, I enjoyed some of the latest China Hero's latest outings like Anno and FIST, although In Nightmare didn't turn out as good as I expected at launch (the devs did try their best on fixing the game and even ported it to Steam but still...), so I'm still toning down my expectations lol
Re: Nioh Franchise Ships More Than 7 Million Units Worldwide
Wonder if this was the reason for them to add Nioh 2 to PS Plus, as a way to celebrate this milestone.
Re: PS Plus Essential PS5, PS4 Games for November 2022 Announced
@LIMA great that you enjoyed it (i did too, though I'm still hoping the sequel expand more on the gameplay aspect) but you still really need to give Nioh a shot. Ignore some of the game's etilist fans though and there's a good reason why Sony loved the game so much that they went as far as to publish the games for the Playstation version (which probably explains why Nioh coming to Xbox is highly unlikely, as said by the devs). The only thing that might put you off are certainly the difficulty spikes (and the loot system if you' weren't a fan of that in games like Borderlands or Destiny).
Re: PS Plus Essential PS5, PS4 Games for November 2022 Announced
@LIMA Did you even gave Nioh a chance at all? Are you just not a fan of the japanese setting? Guess Ghost of Tsushima probably won't be for you lol
Re: PS Plus Expiry Dates Return to the PS Store, Because Sony
I chuckled at the headline lol good one guys
Re: Bloodborne Mobile Rated in Australia, But Don't Lose Your Mind Just Yet
Wouldn't be surprised if it's some chesp mobile knockoff. You'd be surprised to see how mamy mobile games there are with names staken from other games.
Re: Rumour: PS Plus Essential PS5, PS4 Games for November 2022 Leaked Early
Spunds to good to be true. If it is tho, then that's AWESOME.
Re: Gotham Knights (PS5) - It's Actually Pretty Good
"Gotham Knights is the type of game you so dearly want to love, but time and time again it gives you a reason not to."
Those are my exact thoughta on loot-based actipn games. I want to love them yet there are many issues that prevents that.
Re: Random: Who Needs Silent Hills When You Have Street Fighter 6's Character Creator?
@Coolmusic agreed. Plus, if there was ever a pvp option to leat you fight as your own character, I really doubt it's gonna go well due to their exploitable and customizable hitbox.
Re: Sony's Iron Man VR Is Soaring to Meta Quest 2
Oof. Was kinda hoping for Sony to buy them. While Iron Man vr wasnt perfect, I thought it was solid and had a lot of potential. I can imagine a sequel being better. Maybe adding co-op where you can also play as war machine? Who knows.
Re: Random: Who Needs Silent Hills When You Have Street Fighter 6's Character Creator?
I wont be surprised if capcom decides to add limits to prevent people from creating these monstrosities (though I'll be disappointed if they do lol)
Re: Choo-Choo Charles, a Game About a Spider-Legged Train, Comes to Consoles in 2023
We really need more unique campy horror games like this.
Re: Escape Room Horror Do Not Open Will Spook PSVR2 Next Year
Hoping this one ends up good, especially since guillermo del toro is involved. Still, considering it's from playstation talents, I'll tone down my expectations, since usually games from talents, especially horror ones, don't always turn out to be great due to their ambition.
Re: Street Fighter 6 Is So Stuffed with Content You Can Play the Entirety of Final Fight in It
This might as well be called Street fighter online or Capcom unirverse lol really surprised by the amount of content it has. Especially for a fighting game. Makes me wish more fighting games offered more content, though I understand that would cost many resouces.
Re: Hideo Kojima Confirms Elle Fanning for Next Project, Begins Teasing Next Actress
Could be for that, or for his Xbox collab exclusive. Regardless, I'm excited.
Re: Six-Year-Old Celebrates After Conquering Astro's Playroom on PS5
That's really cute lol I can only hope that sony found their jackpot with astrobot as their new mascot now
Re: PS Plus Subscribers in Spain Get a Bonus Game This Month
@nessisonett true though just a quick heads up, the game didn't recieve glowing reviews (usually scores of 6 and lower) so dont get too excited lol this is just something playstation spain does at times (waves out was an example) and sadly not a lot of games from talents are usually hitters. A lot of them feel like bargain bin games, which is why you barely hear anything about them, despite there being many of them, so it's kinda hard to call it thriving. Well, for ps talents anyway. I'm sure the indie scene overall in spain is doing well, with the likes of blasphemous (spanish dub > english dub) and aragami.
Re: Soulslike Asterigos: Curse of the Stars Looks Fantastic in Gameplay Overview Trailer
Don't know why but this game is giving me early PS4 gen vibes, and I mean that in a good way lol
Re: Rumour: Half-Life: Alyx Allegedly Locked for PSVR2
About time lol hoping this means bigger VR games that were released for the oculus could come to PSVR2. Maybe stormlands or asgard's wrath?
Re: Overwatch 2 Is Out Now on PS5, PS4
I'm good, thanks. Some of the new changes for the game don't really convince me to go back. I'll wait for gundam evolution instead.
Re: Bloodborne Movie, TV Show Could Be a Thing in the Future
@IronTruth hey, it could be worse. I'd take exposition over the characters dropping F-bombs every 10 second lol
Honestly, I just want the animators to work on the show. As for the writers, I definitely want them to be different, none from Castlevania that's for sure. Because if they make characters like Gyula or Gehrman constantly say swear words and s*x jokes, I'll be incredibly disappointed.
Re: Dead Space Remake Gameplay Blows Necromorph Minds on PS5
It looks amazing! Though now it's a fierce competition between this and Callsito protocol.
Re: God of War Ragnarok Game Length Is Reportedly Worthy of Jörmungandr Himself
Seems like a solid length. Honestly more excited for the boss fights themselves. Hoping this time it will have a better variety.
Also wonder if the game will have NG+ at launch or will be sdded at a later update.
Re: Bloodborne Movie, TV Show Could Be a Thing in the Future
I'd kill for a Bloodborne animated show from the masterminds of the Castlevania/Blood of Zeus shows.
Re: Talking Point: We Need to Discuss This Horizon Zero Dawn PS5 Remaster
I personally don't mind remakes. I just wnat remakes of games that do deserve it.
Heck, if I'm being honest, I actually wouldn't mind a remake of Nathan Drake's first adventure, with combat as refined as UC4's, maybe sneaking in some new mechanics introduced in UC3/4, improving the Ai, and maybe even make the final boss actually, you know, fun lol since uncharted is still a popular sony IP, I think it could work.
Also, we're in due for a God of war remastered collection. Sales could sky rocket thanks to God of War 2018 and Ragnarok's popularity.
Again, I think remasters and remakes are fine, and I'm not surprised Sony is making them as "appetizers". Still, really makes me miss the time were Sony were showing off many of their upcoming games left and right.
Re: There Could Be Many More PS5, PS4 First-Party Leaks Coming
@theMEGAniggle it's a joke lol though at this point, anything can happen. Wouldn't be surprised if Spiderman or even God of War 2018 gets a remake in the next 2 or 3 years.
Re: There Could Be Many More PS5, PS4 First-Party Leaks Coming
I swear if none of those is a The last of us part 2 remake, then count me out.
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Remaster for PS5 Reportedly in Development
@Godot25 if sony wants to make more remasters and remakes, then they should give us the ones that desperately need it.
Re: Horizon Zero Dawn Remaster for PS5 Reportedly in Development
Unironically more excited for the Multiplayer spinoff than the remake.
Honestly, just remaster the game for just $50. There's no need to make a $70 paywall for new accesability options. If sony wants to remake games...then just remake the ones that deserve it! Jak and Daxter, legend of dragoon, war of the monsters, killzone, the god of war trilogy, resistance, starhawk, or even freedom wars. At this point, expect a Spiderman, Ghost of tsushima or death stranding remake lol
Re: Everybody's Golf Fans 'Thanos Snapped' Out of the Game as Servers Go Offline
It's a shame. One of the few better recent MP titles Sony has given us.
Which reminds me...it's just now that I remembered that Hardware rivals also got its servers shut down last year, and I only knew about that because of one guy on Gfaqs lol
Re: Hires for AAA Live Service Game from a 'Flagship' Sony IP Are Underway
My guess is that, if it's not TLoU, it could maybe be an uncharted live service game.
Re: Sci-Fi Stealth Game Evotinction Gets Technical in New Story Trailer
About time we heard something from Evotinction. Hopefully other china hero games like AI Limit and Convalleria also get something new soon (the former especially).
Re: Onimusha Finally Returns... As a Netflix Anime
I just hope it's better than Capcom's previous netflix game to anime adaptation, Dragon's dogma.
Re: Soapbox: Bring Back Warhawk on PS5, You Cowards
If sony really wants to tackle live service games, then they should definitely bring back Warhawk. Heck, the gameplay is perfect as it is, with just a few tweaks needed. No need to go what Battlefield 2042 went through.
And for a modern one, a Starhawk revival could work as well. A PvPvE spaggheti western scifi shooter game with building gameplay and mecha fights? Sign me up!
Re: 17 New PS5, PS4 Games Join PS Plus Extra, Premium Tomorrow
Never thought sony would actually acknowledge Kingdom of paradise.
Re: Street Fighter 6 Blowout Shows World Tour Mode, Four Characters, New Gameplay, and More
I just hope I can play as an old lady lol
Re: Octopath Traveler 2 Revealed for PS5, PS4, Out February 2023
Honestly hope the characters actually interact with one another.
Re: Square Enix Sends Babylon's Fall to the Grave in February 2023
@Ooccoo_Jr it's like NFTs. Almost everyone know they're a waste of time, yet they keep churning them out constantly, knoeing that it'll fail.
Re: Deviation Games Co-Founder Jason Blundell Departs Studio
Ngl I'm kinda worried. Hope this doesn't mean their project will be hindered.
Re: Assassin's Creed Mirage Images Have Leaked, Reveal Pre-Order Mission
@PenguinLtd Same here. If it's going back to its roots, then I might actually check it out.
Though I'm worried if they'll implement some kind of microtransactions.
Re: Resident Evil Netflix Series Won't Be Renewed for a Second Season
Honestly kinda unsurprising that it suffered the same fate as Cowboy bebop.