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@Th3solution Both XXbone and NS will probably run out of steam sooner rather than later.

In the meantime, PS4 is heading strong into 2018, which looks like it will be its best year yet.

"Also surprised overall software sales are down this year. With all the great titles we’ve had?"

Remember, a lot of other systems are on the downswing. The original Xbone has slowed down while the fans waited for the XX. Vita and Wii U are even deader than last year, and NS isn't picking up the slack (just check how many NS games there are in the top 10). Even 2DS and 3DS are slowing down in the US, while they're doing better in Europe.

@Ralizah Wii U has stopped manufacturing a long time ago, and it isn't even shipped anymore. Xbone is readily available, but nobody wants one.

@Enigk It hasn't when you count in the Wii U version. Only a matter of time though, even 3D Mario has always been bigger than Zelda in Japan.

Sonic Forces has looked bad from the very start and this is no surprise at all. Total waste of Sega's resources.

@Furtin The NS is a lot behind systems like PS4 and Wii, and the games aren't doing too hot if they don't have Mario or another big Nintendo property in them. Don't believe the spin of Nintendo sites.

Completely agreed. The 2DS is great because it has its own games, not just downports of current home console games. PSP didn't get to 80 million because of ports and ports and ports, it got there because it started getting its own games.

@get2sammyb having microUSB for both DS4 and Move will be great. Bigger battery never hurt either. And it even looks a little better. It's a win-win-win.

I might be interested in a PS5 in 2019.

MoveModo! I had forgotten about that.

Will these be the new revised model?

Push Square voters have good taste.

Damn. At least The Alliance Alive is coming to 2DS in January.

Hey @get2sammyb, just review Just Dance 2018. Much more pleasant than playing through yet another poor attempt at a modern Sonic game.

Does anybody know if the GOTY edition or whatever contains this on the disc?

This could be a catch. Just the kind of game I might get hooked on.

Is Broken Sword 5 cross-buy? Would be great on PS4.

Loads of PS4 titles on the list. Will probably continue like that for a long time.

Yeah, Sony delivered. Even better than I expected, and I was already expecting good things.

Nothing interesting for me in this list. Which is just as well, since there is a ton of other games to play.

@Dodoo "Not to mention a far superior game library. (imo)"

Yeah, no joking. The PS4 game library is immense.

Will tune in for sure. Seems like Sony's got the goods lined up.

This was fun on the Wii, might be a great time for a replay.

@Mart1ndo_ Yeah, but with some unfortunate Nintendo trolls on the side, regurgitating unfounded fabrications just to defend the NS.

@BraveFencerZan You know what? So is the Polygon article and the Nintendo PR. That's how the NPD system works. Even if a game is released in the last days of the month, it's counted for the "whole month".

And again, it's selling so much worse than previous entries in the series. It didn't take off, not at launch, not after launch.

@NoxAeturnus Sell the games at cheaper prices, get more customers and more people buying the system to get those games.

Just because something sells some units over time at full price, doesn't mean it couldn't sell more, and sell systems too alongside.

Just look at Wii and DS, where Nintendo had a better range of budget titles.

@redd214 Alright, it seems that this is a problem with Nintendo PR, and these sites (several of them amateur or "contributor" sites) just swallowed the Nintendo PR hook, line and sinker, without checking the numbers themselves.

Obviously MK8 NS can't be the fastest-selling anything when MK Wii and other entries were so far ahead of it. Headlines and PR may lie, but the numbers don't.

But yeah, this is enough for this conversation.

@NoxAeturnus Yeah, because Nintendo systems like Gamecube, Wii U and NS have done so well. Why offer cheaper games, when you can milk the chumps who will buy MK8 two times at full price, first on Wii U and then on NS?

Here's why: look at the sales. They could be selling more games and more systems, but instead they insist on gouging prices and losing customers.

@redd214 Here's how much MK8 NS is currently behind other entries in the same timeframe just in Japan:

Mario Kart Wii vs. MK8 NS - over 1 million
Mario Kart DS vs. MK8 NS - around 1 million
Mario Kart 7 vs. MK8 NS - around 650.000

And those differences are just going to get bigger, like they've gotten bigger from launch to here.

@redd214 This is why you should never ever trust Polygon.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/npd-us-april-game-revs-spike-on-gtaiv/1100-6191066/

Mario Kart Wii sold 1.12 million copies in US alone in the same timeframe.

How is 0.5 million bigger than 1.12 million?

Add to that MK Wii and other entries also kept selling faster than MK8 NS after launch. So yeah, MK8 NS didn't "take off", relative to the standard of the series.

@redd214 You've got bunk data. For example, at this point in its lifecycle Mario Kart Wii had already sold around 1.8 million copies in Japan alone, and it's the same story worldwide, and likewise with Mario Kart DS and Mario Kart 7. How can Mario Kart 8 be "fastest-selling" when it's selling so much less than previous entries?

After July 2008, Mario Kart Wii had already sold close to 5 million copies worldwide. MK8 NS isn't even on the same level.

Good numbers for PS4, as is to be expected with this kind of a lineup. The PS4 version of Itadaki Street alone already sold better than the previous entry on Wii.

@RedMageLanakyn The NS price gouging is hurting the games, just take a look at the UK charts. Most people don't want to pay more for less, which is what you get with the NS.

@Fight_Teza_Fight "It's one of the few things I respect about Nintendo. Whilst others have no problem slashing prices you hardly ever see Nintendo doing the same."

More expensive games! Hooray for Nintendo!

Looks like it has potential. Keeping an eye on this.

@NickOfTime90 Actually it is a handheld. Have you even seen the thing? A "pure hybrid" would have an actual home console implementation instead of what the NS has.

@RyanSilberman The NS is obviously a handheld, portable by nature, and just because it can plug into a TV, it's not a home console any more than a PSP.

I remember when Microsoft used to do this on GBA and DS, because they didn't feel those systems posed any threat to their Xbox ecosystem. Looks like Sony is the same with NS - with Nintendo out of the home console space and their handheld install base set to diminish with the NS, Sony doesn't seem to be exactly worried.

Crash still in the top 10! Is it never going to stop? Incredible!

@Dodoo What isn't tracking above Wii U? Even Gamecube sold more than it.

That Hori controller looks pretty good. Never use the touchpad anyway.

@bbq_boy PS4 is currently Japan's best selling home console (and will remain that way for the rest of the generation), and the second best selling system altogether after the 2DS and 3DS hardware family. It's tracking above PS3 launch-aligned, unlike the NS, which is tracking below 3DS launch-aligned. PS4 might have a shot at reaching Wii numbers in Japan (and the rest of the world also).

@ApostateMage It also didn't do well in UK. But it will probably sell more in the long run.

@rjejr The Super Famicom Mini is around the price of two full priced games, or a 2DS + budget title, so besides being great value with the included games and Wii-compatible SNES Classic Controllers, it can easily replace a game or two on the financial side.

Might also eat into the sales of more expensive systems. You can buy a Super Famicom Mini now instead of a new system, and wait for discounts or bundles to come along later for the standard systems (like the PS4 Monster Hunter World pre-launch bundle).

@BowTiesAreCool It's an illusion created by NS's relatively recent launch. PS4 is already closing in on 6 million systems just in Japan, and is selling more games than NS even with its launch year effect still on (few games and no back catalogue, so people have to buy what few games there are from the new retail market for the system).

PS4 game sales are spread over a vastly bigger back catalogue (same with 2DS and 3DS, obviously).

@sinalefa Splatoon 2 will keep selling for a while in Japan. Even the Wii U version sold over 1.5 million in Japan.

But it's not doing so well in the rest of the world.

Worth noting that Super Famicom Mini sold close to 370,000 systems in just 4 days: http://gematsu.com/2017/10/nintendo-classic-mini-super-famicom-sold-368913-units-within-first-four-days-japan

All those Super Famicom Mini systems probably took away sales from everything else. There are a lot of quality games on that thing!

Trails 3 at 100,000 already with physical, and with the record-breaking digital sales, it's already well beyond in total: http://gematsu.com/2017/10/legend-heroes-trails-cold-steel-iii-highest-digital-sales-rate-series

@get2sammyb Yeah, but it's not just one tweet. This is like the third time that Sony has hyped the event recently. So at least they seem to think they have something good.

Wow. With all this hype, Sony better deliver.

@rjejr The NS has different standards of farce.

@rjejr Absolutely needs to be on-disc DLC. Otherwise it's a complete farce.

A bit cheeky from Sony, but this is sure to prompt additional purchases. Could be a nice game over the holidays.