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Re: Japanese Sales Charts: PS4 Passes 5 Million Milestone

Mahe

@sinalefa Yeah, Splatoon 1 in Japan also boosted Wii U numbers and stayed in the charts for a long time. Same thing will probably happen here, especially as Switch doesn't have many other upcoming games. In Japan, if you buy a Switch, you will probably buy Splatoon 2. Splatoon 1 attach rate for Wii U was also very high.

Re: UK Sales Charts: Crash Bandicoot Paints Over Splatoon 2

Mahe

For Switch fans, it was the biggest day of their summer.
For Crash Bandicoot, it was just another Monday.

Not really surprised. Splatoon 2 buyers were probably mostly fans of Splatoon on Wii U, but the game never really made a lasting impression in the UK. Expect Splatoon 2 sales to drop much faster than Crash.

You can kind of see this with Final Fantasy XII The Zodiac Age: it had a lot of eager fans buying it at launch, but it doesn't have the sustained appeal or large audience that Crash has, so it goes down much faster than Crash does.

Re: June 2017 NPD: PS4 Enjoys Best June Since Launch

Mahe

@lacerz And not only that. What's also impressive about Crash's showing on this list is that it's ordered by revenue. That means that at a price of $40, Crash had to sell at a pace of 150 % compared to the full-price games at $60, because that's how the NPD charts work these days.

It's safe to say that Crash's return has been very welcome all over the world.

Re: UK Sales Charts: Final Fantasy XII Heralds the Zodiac Age

Mahe

@BLP_Software You think I'm going to summarize 4 months of sales data plus historical Nintendo data just for the heck of it?

Here's the important thing: your "data" is wrong. You're basing your assumptions on headlines and possibly a poor understanding of sales and historical Nintendo consoles (just look at how wrong you were about Wii), so you make ridiculous claims like "fastest selling". Check the data, Switch has sold worse than Wii U. Mario Kart 8 Switch has sold worse than Mario Kart 8 Wii U. And so on. Not to even mention the actual successes like Wii and Mario Kart Wii.

This means that unless things change, Switch is heading for the Wii U/Gamecube graveyard. This is how trends work. Things for Switch need to change for it to even catch up to 2DS/3DS. It would be completely ridiculous to assume something is going to change when the thing is trending at irrelevance.

Re: UK Sales Charts: Final Fantasy XII Heralds the Zodiac Age

Mahe

@BLP_Software All the signs are in the air: Switch is heading the way of Nintendo's bad systems like Wii U and Gamecube.

This will change if Switch and its games actually start selling at a respectable pace. If it gets games and sales like 2DS and 3DS did, it's no longer an unmitigated disaster like it is right now.

Re: UK Sales Charts: Final Fantasy XII Heralds the Zodiac Age

Mahe

@BLP_Software What are you talking about? Of course there were some games on Wii that didn't sell much. But when a console is successful, even the less successful games sell more than on a flop console (see: Wii U, Switch).

That's how the game industry operates. Not every game can be a hit, but the games that sell hundreds of thousands or even millions make up for the rest, and some publishers can continue operating even if their games don't sell millions. The important thing is to get those games available to as many gamers as possible, and that's what Wii did.

Let me remind you, over 900 million games and counting on an install base of 100 million. That means an average attach rate of over 9 games for all of those 100 million Wii systems.

Re: UK Sales Charts: Final Fantasy XII Heralds the Zodiac Age

Mahe

@BLP_Software Yeah the top sellers are Nintendo. But do you really expect anything but GTA to sell like Mario Kart Wii, which sold 33 million copies? Only very very few games ever manage numbers like that, and just because Nintendo had some huge hits in Wii Sports, MK Wii and New SMB Wii doesn't mean that third-party million-sellers aren't making bank.

Re: UK Sales Charts: Final Fantasy XII Heralds the Zodiac Age

Mahe

@Shellcore I'm not saying Splatoon 2 can't get number 1, I'm saying it's irrelevant. Look at the top 10 again, if you didn't already. The Switch owners that are out there, they aren't buying games, and there aren't any notable games to buy. That's the 2-fold problem that Switch has, again, like Wii U and Gamecube.

Even if the Switch fans buy the 1 Nintendo game that comes out a month, those numbers won't drive larger adoption and the game selection won't grow. And when the game selection won't grow, more people won't buy the system either. It's a lose-lose for Nintendo.

Re: UK Sales Charts: Final Fantasy XII Heralds the Zodiac Age

Mahe

@kyleforrester87 "There's been no switch games of note released recently."

That tells it all really.

If there's a really long drought and then the Switch fans buy the only new "big profile" (Nintendo) game that's out, that's not an achievement, that's pathetic. This is the exact same problem Nintendo had with Wii U and Gamecube.

Re: Japanese Sales Charts: PS4 and PS4 Pro Continue to Outsell Switch

Mahe

@Trikeboy Sure I can, because that's what people do. That's the situation that Nintendo put themselves in. They launched Switch mid-gen because they mishandled Wii U so badly, and that's going to reflect poorly on Switch too.

When PS4 launched, it was the start of a new generation. The other options were Wii U (dud), Xbone (haha no), and the previous generation (getting pretty old at 7 - 8 years).

Now the situation is completely different. PS4 has been out only 3 years and a half, and it's in its absolute prime right now, doing superb. It's going to get a load of games for the upcoming years, and it's a console design masterpiece. It's Nintendo's own fault for putting Switch in this situation.

Re: Japanese Sales Charts: PS4 and PS4 Pro Continue to Outsell Switch

Mahe

@Trikeboy Yeah 3DS had a bad start, but they really turned it around with 2DS. Plus it had BC with the awesome DS library.

PS4 started getting some worthwhile titles right from the start and it built up its catalog fast.

But we're not living in the past, we are right here. And right now, PS4 and 2DS have stellar game selections and the upcoming game lists are fantastic too (unlike Switch), so with PS4 and 2DS you get a great back catalog and all the upcoming games. It's a great time for games if you have either or both of those systems.

Re: Japanese Sales Charts: PS4 and PS4 Pro Continue to Outsell Switch

Mahe

@Gamer83 The difference in graphical processing power might not be huge, but it's the differences in everything else that count. Most importantly, the PS4 game selection is very different to the early years of the PS3. Everything about the PS4 is just much better designed than it was with PS3, and it's still the most powerful console of the generation, so you can't really fault it with that either.

Re: Japanese Sales Charts: PS4 and PS4 Pro Continue to Outsell Switch

Mahe

@KirbyTheVampire Wii U has been out for over 4 years, and it never really picked up. The game catalog is really poor compared to PS4 and 2DS. Why would Switch do any better?

So, PS4 has better games, better features, better hardware, better controllers, better user interface and experience... even a better price! Why mince words with this when PS4 is so far better than the troubled Switch?

The PS4 and 2DS are great now. They don't need promises of "in 4 years it will have games!" Great hardware, great games, right here, right now. That's the game, Switch loses.

Re: Japanese Sales Charts: PS4 and PS4 Pro Continue to Outsell Switch

Mahe

@KirbyTheVampire Switch is lacking so many things that PS4 and even 2DS have. Games first and foremost. Sure, maybe you really like playing ARMS or something, but the fact is, Switch has very few games now, and barely any exclusives. In that situation it's obvious that PS4 and 2DS will have so many more games that appeal to different people.

And guess what? Opinion thrives on quantity. So when you say that better games are a matter of opinion, the quantity of games means that there will be a vast majority of gamers for who PS4 and 2DS have better games. And the opposite, it's easy to say that Switch has poor games, because the quantity just isn't there. That's the comparison you invite.

You know what else? 60 million gamers have chosen a PS4 already, 66 million have chosen 2DS or 3DS. At current estimates, Switch will never reach those numbers. Your definition of "many" is faulty, because it's highly unlikely that many people will choose a Switch over PS4 or 2DS.