I've been following this for so long. So glad it's finally making the console jump. I miss those single player tactical fps' of old so much. Everything nowadays has been simplified and/or become multiplayer focused in Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon,etc unfortunately.
@MFTWrecks yeah that's my point. Concord failed because it was ass. A lot of the failure of these gamepass games can be attributed to the gamepass itself not the quality of the game.
@MFTWrecks your example is terrible. They released a game it failed and cost sony millions so it was shut. The end. What critical or commercial failure is the cause of the MS shut downs?
Just how far can you even push the graphics in games at this point. Just try to come up with ways to make efficient pipelines for production. I know it's obvious but gimme games, games and more games.
@themightyant this is the thing though. I just don't see how they can reduce the price of PS5 pro that much. They just aren't willing to make any losses in the pro. Either they are selling pro for a small profit, in which case they can't possibly reduce the price that much in 2 years with the way the market is or they are making a huge profit on them, in which case that's just sad more than anything. Maybe they will discontinue the PS5 pro a few months before launch so there is no comparison left.
I'll be honest no matter what you say about subsidizing but there is no way that ps6 will be cheap. The only way for it to be cheap or around the price that PS5 launched for example is if there is a big price drop in the PS5 pro. Imagine how ridiculous it would look if the ps6 is cheaper than the PS5 pro. The PS6 will never be cheaper than any box lables with a 5.
What a mess. I think it's ridiculous that all this is not affecting the SP games. With the the long dev times Sony needed to be razor focused this gen but all this free firing at the wall approach is just wasting time, effort and money.
@AverageGamer just shows how much of a margin they are keeping on the switch 2. No way do some extra languages cost that much. They get away with anything.
While a little hypocritical, he is 100% right. The only growth that happens in a subscription model is the one right at the beginning, once you have a big audiance, the only way to grow is to keep having more people subscribe, which inevitably slows down or increase prices, which is what's happening in every subscription service. In a system that demands continuous growth, this model is impossible to sustain. Something will need to give.
@BiosNova it was probably real time you know. Your point about the dual sense and whatnot makes no sense. Are they supposed to control a demo with their minds?
We all know it makes money, why would anyone chase it if it didn't also I am sorry but when has a so called "golden goose" stopped a company from finding the next one. It never ends and you are naive to even suggest this. Sony can do whatever it wants and I can keep ignoring it but let's be real about this live service push not affecting single player games.
This is part of the reason why I don't want a ps6 in 2027. We have barely started seeing proper PS5 only games and now the prices keep rising. Not exactly the environment for a new generation.
@ATaco I meant push square too but my main point was towards sony, nd and Neil. Why talk about this in a public way? When has a dev or publisher talking like this and focusing on the hate they will get rather than the game itself lead to anything positive? The ones throwing the hate get in arms, the rest of the people get in arms against them and sites like this get clicks and nothing ultimately changes. Only the attention gets diverted away from the very thing we are all here for to begin with. The game itself.
Why broadcast this? It's just asking for unnecessary attention. This kind of post isn't gonna reduce the hate whatsoever because it's the internet. I hate when companies keep talking about hate this or hate that. Just make the game and focus on advertising the game itself.
I wonder when gta vi will launch. I hope it's not too close to this game. T2 should give this proper time to breath before launching the absolute juggernaut.
@CrispyMango92 I think it might a Bayonetta like situation, where Microsoft owns the rights to the first game but the ip as a whole is owned by Sony. So Sony can make and release a potential Sunset overdrive 2 on their own but the first one might need approval from Microsoft.
It's honestly so sad that we can't play so many of the games in some of Playstation's best and most iconic franchises on PS5. Of course God of War being a great example. Come on Sony do something.
It's honestly ridiculous the reaction this seems to be getting. He has said literally nothing. Do people not realise that plenty of games have religious themes? What are people even hating here? We know nothing.
@Rich33 I know it's unlikely but maybe a follow up to Fall of Cybertron considering they just released a follow up to Space Marine. Heck I would take simple ports of WFC and FOC at this point.
@ProfessorNiggle good point. Online games from the PS3 times are very different from nowadays. A live service is too resource intensive. Though I wish we could have again have some online games that aren't live services.
Personally, can't care less. Just give me a great single player gta 6, then they can do whatever they want with the online section. Hopefully all the trophies are completely separate for online too.
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare and yet here we are. I don't see them making any money from these projects either now am I. When you heard the news that they have 12 gaas projects in work, do you seriously think that those projects would have no effect on their sp projects because if you did then you were clearly wrong. Having all these projects is not an example of them trying to please everyone and finding a balance either. It's them putting their eggs in one basket and throwing them at the wall and hoping something comes out of it. Who exactly did this please. Hint: no one.
You were the people who kept defending this, saying how this will have no effect on the traditional single player games but I guess it's impossible to predict that 12 live service games being in production will have an effect on single player games right? They had a open opponents goal and still managed to score an own goal instead. Oh but don't worry, they are going to go ahead with the live service vision anyway. Just watch.
Are we still gonna pretend that these live service games have had no effect on their traditional single player games output, when they have to specify whether these studios will be closed or not. Come on.
@Cry_Zero I loved it's story and characters. On the surface the pirate philosophy of freedom is the same as that of the assassins but it's the nuance that makes them different where black flag truly shines. Of course Edward isn't an assassin throughout most of the game, Ezio wasn't one either in 2, it's a story of Edward realising the difference.
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Re: Helldivers 2 Xbox Announcement Prompts Avalanche of Spider-Man Port Begging
If it does happen then genuinely what's the point of a ps6 or something. Sony might as well go the Xbox route of a pc box for the next gen.
Re: Interview: Out Today, Ready or Not Is the Modern, Relentless Rainbow Six: Vegas for PS5
I've been following this for so long. So glad it's finally making the console jump. I miss those single player tactical fps' of old so much. Everything nowadays has been simplified and/or become multiplayer focused in Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon,etc unfortunately.
Re: 'I Much Prefer PS Plus' Lifecycle Management Strategy': Devs Weigh in on Crippling Xbox Game Pass Impact
@MFTWrecks yeah that's my point. Concord failed because it was ass. A lot of the failure of these gamepass games can be attributed to the gamepass itself not the quality of the game.
Re: 'I Much Prefer PS Plus' Lifecycle Management Strategy': Devs Weigh in on Crippling Xbox Game Pass Impact
@MFTWrecks your example is terrible. They released a game it failed and cost sony millions so it was shut. The end. What critical or commercial failure is the cause of the MS shut downs?
Re: Here's Your Best Look Yet at PS5 Shooter Pragmata's Unique Gunplay Gimmick
Now bring back Deep down 👀
Re: Overlooked Action RPG Granblue Fantasy: Relink Just Topped a Solid 2 Million Sales
Good to see. I've been thinking of getting this one. I just hope we hear something about project awakening soon too.
Re: PS6 Still Years Away Despite Increase in Next-Gen Chatter
I hope it's slated for 28 or even 29 internally.
Re: Rumour: Realistic, First-Person Ghost Recon Game Is Ticking Along, Targeting 2026 Release
@zhoont they are going back to the very roots of Ghost recon.
Re: PS6 to 'Push the Boundaries' of Graphics, Doubles Down on Machine Learning
Just how far can you even push the graphics in games at this point. Just try to come up with ways to make efficient pipelines for production. I know it's obvious but gimme games, games and more games.
Re: 'We're Not Looking to Put First-Party Games in PS Plus Day and Date': Sony Rejects Xbox Game Pass Model
Yeah makes sense. There is only so much growth in the Xbox model plus it devalues the titles.
Re: MindsEye Dev to Begin Layoff Process After Dire Launch, Says Report
Tbh starting out with 300 employees in a studio with no titles released is not a good idea. It's always better to start smaller.
Re: The Next Xbox Is a PC, So What Does That Mean for PS6?
@themightyant this is the thing though. I just don't see how they can reduce the price of PS5 pro that much. They just aren't willing to make any losses in the pro. Either they are selling pro for a small profit, in which case they can't possibly reduce the price that much in 2 years with the way the market is or they are making a huge profit on them, in which case that's just sad more than anything. Maybe they will discontinue the PS5 pro a few months before launch so there is no comparison left.
Re: The Next Xbox Is a PC, So What Does That Mean for PS6?
I'll be honest no matter what you say about subsidizing but there is no way that ps6 will be cheap. The only way for it to be cheap or around the price that PS5 launched for example is if there is a big price drop in the PS5 pro. Imagine how ridiculous it would look if the ps6 is cheaper than the PS5 pro. The PS6 will never be cheaper than any box lables with a 5.
Re: Bungie Delays Marathon Indefinitely, No New PS5, PC Release Date Given
What a mess. I think it's ridiculous that all this is not affecting the SP games. With the the long dev times Sony needed to be razor focused this gen but all this free firing at the wall approach is just wasting time, effort and money.
Re: Switch 2 Absolutely Destroys PS2's Launch Record in Japan
@AverageGamer just shows how much of a margin they are keeping on the switch 2. No way do some extra languages cost that much. They get away with anything.
Re: Switch 2 Absolutely Destroys PS2's Launch Record in Japan
Welp looks like Nintendo will get away with greedy practices. Again. Get ready for 100 dollar games.
Re: 'People Are Less Willing to Pay': Dev Speaks Out Against Day One Releases on PS Plus, Xbox Game Pass
While a little hypocritical, he is 100% right. The only growth that happens in a subscription model is the one right at the beginning, once you have a big audiance, the only way to grow is to keep having more people subscribe, which inevitably slows down or increase prices, which is what's happening in every subscription service. In a system that demands continuous growth, this model is impossible to sustain. Something will need to give.
Re: PlayStation Studios: All Sony First-Party Developers and What They're Working On
So only Saros and Yotei is announced, plus Fairgames.
Re: Don't Expect The Witcher 4 to Look Like That Unreal Tech Demo When It Launches on PS5
@BiosNova it was probably real time you know. Your point about the dual sense and whatnot makes no sense. Are they supposed to control a demo with their minds?
Re: Japanese VTuber Usada Pekora Is in Death Stranding 2, and We Don't Know Why
I mean there were alot of cameos in the first Death stranding too.
Re: Like It or Loathe It, This Is Why Sony Won't Stop Trying to Make Live Service Games for PS5
We all know it makes money, why would anyone chase it if it didn't also I am sorry but when has a so called "golden goose" stopped a company from finding the next one. It never ends and you are naive to even suggest this. Sony can do whatever it wants and I can keep ignoring it but let's be real about this live service push not affecting single player games.
Re: Anime GTA-Style Game NTE Drops Jaws with New PS5 Trailer and Screenshots
@VeganHerpes they are waiting for people to get burned out by them and then they will throw money at it so that it will never be seen again.
Re: Even More PS5 Price Increases Being Considered by Sony
This is part of the reason why I don't want a ps6 in 2027. We have barely started seeing proper PS5 only games and now the prices keep rising. Not exactly the environment for a new generation.
Re: Intergalactic PS5 Star 'Bootcamp-ing' with Neil Druckmann to Ignore the Haters
@ATaco I meant push square too but my main point was towards sony, nd and Neil. Why talk about this in a public way? When has a dev or publisher talking like this and focusing on the hate they will get rather than the game itself lead to anything positive? The ones throwing the hate get in arms, the rest of the people get in arms against them and sites like this get clicks and nothing ultimately changes. Only the attention gets diverted away from the very thing we are all here for to begin with. The game itself.
Re: Intergalactic PS5 Star 'Bootcamp-ing' with Neil Druckmann to Ignore the Haters
Why broadcast this? It's just asking for unnecessary attention. This kind of post isn't gonna reduce the hate whatsoever because it's the internet. I hate when companies keep talking about hate this or hate that. Just make the game and focus on advertising the game itself.
Re: Gallery: New GTA 6 Screenshots Look Utterly Outstanding
I love how dirty and dense it all looks and feels.
Re: Rumour: Six Years of Assassin's Creed RPGs, Remakes, Multiplayer Games Planned at Ubisoft
So no new old school style AC games. Welp. This used to be my favourite series. Never been less interested in it than today.
Re: PS5 Pro Is No Longer the Most Expensive Console You Can Buy
What a time we are now, five years into the cycle and prices are increasing. What a sad reality.
Re: A PS5 Exclusive DOOM: The Dark Ages Trailer Isn't Sitting Well with Xbox Fans
This is hilarious. People always find ways to be angry.
Re: Ghost of Yotei Gets PS5 Release Date, Trailer, Pre-Order Details
Damn, what an absolutely packed year. Gta 6, Doom TDA, Mafia and now Ghost of Yotei plus of course Nintendo dropping switch 2.
Re: Highly Rated Tactical SWAT Shooter Ready or Not Is Targeting PS5 This Summer
Woah, I've been waiting for this to come to consoles and I didn't even realise it was this close. Awesome.
Re: Mafia: The Old Country Release Date Leaked, Out 8th August on PS5
I wonder when gta vi will launch. I hope it's not too close to this game. T2 should give this proper time to breath before launching the absolute juggernaut.
Re: Cristiano Ronaldo Finally Revealed in Fatal Fury, One the Most Ridiculous Guest Characters Ever
Welp I guess it would be cool to beat him up.
Re: Xbox Has 'a Lot More' PS5 Ports to Come in 2025
@CrispyMango92 I think it might a Bayonetta like situation, where Microsoft owns the rights to the first game but the ip as a whole is owned by Sony. So Sony can make and release a potential Sunset overdrive 2 on their own but the first one might need approval from Microsoft.
Re: PlayStation Marks 20 Years of God of War in Tribute Video
It's honestly so sad that we can't play so many of the games in some of Playstation's best and most iconic franchises on PS5. Of course God of War being a great example. Come on Sony do something.
Re: Intergalactic PS5 Game All About Faith, Religion, and 'Being Lonely'
It's honestly ridiculous the reaction this seems to be getting. He has said literally nothing. Do people not realise that plenty of games have religious themes? What are people even hating here? We know nothing.
Re: Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 Snatches April Release Date on PS5, Priced at $60
I wish they also released it on ps4
Re: Space Marine 2 Dev Partners with Hasbro, Working on 'Tentpole IP'
@Rich33 I know it's unlikely but maybe a follow up to Fall of Cybertron considering they just released a follow up to Space Marine. Heck I would take simple ports of WFC and FOC at this point.
Re: Space Marine 2 Dev Partners with Hasbro, Working on 'Tentpole IP'
Please let this be new transformers game 🤞
Re: Rumour: Rocksteady's Next Single-Player Game Based on Batman Beyond, May Be a PS5 Exclusive
Now this excites me. A few days ago I was wondering how rocksteady could make more Batman games and a Batman beyond game is just perfect.
Re: Yoshida: I Played The Last of Us Online And It Was Great
@ProfessorNiggle good point. Online games from the PS3 times are very different from nowadays. A live service is too resource intensive. Though I wish we could have again have some online games that aren't live services.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2's Performance on PC Has Not Been Amazing
Ngl I didn't even know they released Spidey 2 on pc.
Re: FromSoftware Plans to Flog Characters, Bosses as Elden Ring Nightreign DLC
@ChrisDeku the thing I fear is that they will go down the rockstar route if this is successful and the games that actually made them famous dry up.
Re: GTA 6 Reportedly Wants to Be the Next Big PS5 Metaverse
Personally, can't care less. Just give me a great single player gta 6, then they can do whatever they want with the online section. Hopefully all the trophies are completely separate for online too.
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Confirmed for PS5, Out This Spring
No PS4 version?
Re: Horizon's MMO Appears to Have Been Cancelled
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare and yet here we are. I don't see them making any money from these projects either now am I. When you heard the news that they have 12 gaas projects in work, do you seriously think that those projects would have no effect on their sp projects because if you did then you were clearly wrong. Having all these projects is not an example of them trying to please everyone and finding a balance either. It's them putting their eggs in one basket and throwing them at the wall and hoping something comes out of it. Who exactly did this please. Hint: no one.
Re: Reaction: Sony's Live Service Push Has Been a Disaster of Utterly Insane Proportions
You were the people who kept defending this, saying how this will have no effect on the traditional single player games but I guess it's impossible to predict that 12 live service games being in production will have an effect on single player games right? They had a open opponents goal and still managed to score an own goal instead. Oh but don't worry, they are going to go ahead with the live service vision anyway. Just watch.
Re: Lists of Sony’s Cancelled Live Service PS5 Games Paint a Worrying Picture
Go ahead pretend that these live service games were not affecting the single player development.
Re: Sony Cancels Bluepoint, Bend Studio PS5 Games, One Being a Live-Service God of War Title
Are we still gonna pretend that these live service games have had no effect on their traditional single player games output, when they have to specify whether these studios will be closed or not. Come on.
Re: Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag Remake Is All But Official Now, More Than a Graphics Upgrade
@Cry_Zero I loved it's story and characters. On the surface the pirate philosophy of freedom is the same as that of the assassins but it's the nuance that makes them different where black flag truly shines. Of course Edward isn't an assassin throughout most of the game, Ezio wasn't one either in 2, it's a story of Edward realising the difference.