@KundaliniRising333 PSVR games definitely skewed gimmicky but much of this had to do with the aging move controllers. They were incredibly limiting. It'll be interesting to see what devs do with more capable controllers. Above and beyond the spec upgrades, this has got to be the most significant change coming to PSVR2 imo.
Though I can see why none of this justifies the expenditure in today's economy, I'm still really excited to see what can come out of VR what with Sony clearly taking it more serious with this iteration.
"It's easy, just avoid the internet (and thusly, anyone irl who might have been on the internet)" isn't the big-brained solution some of you think it is.
It's somewhat a source of fascination at this point that Sony manages to release 3 games every month that I have absolutely no interest in. Like. Every. Single. Month. There's maybe one a year I look forward to.
And I've mostly enjoyed Extra thus far but if it ends up just becoming primarily an Ubisoft dump, and it's maybe kinda looking that way, then that may change.
@IonMagi interesting and disturbing. Odd that dude gets to release an autobiography, recounting the murders in detail apparently, but regular Joe's can't play Callisto Protocol.
Does make me feel a little better to know that reactionary conservatives live in other countries besides just the US. Or maybe now I feel worse lol.
@J-smash it's a bit of a proverbial kick in the teeth if you ask me. Like, seriously, we bought your premium priced remake at launch but can't be grandfathered in here? Like those 50 points, absolutely worthless on their own, are gonna break Sony or something.
@Elodin This is one I had my eye on as well. Then along came the trial on premium. Ended up glad I didn't buy it, even on sale. If you've played one Borderlands you've played them all at this point, and unfortunately this one is no different in that regard.
@Constable_What I guess... I'd just hate to see something dumb I've said get so much attention it becomes a news story. It's one thing to get clowned on by your peer group. It's another thing when it's the whole world, or what must feel like the whole world.
Lol, really resisting the urge to go on a Yuval Noah Harari inspired rant about how we were never meant to be able to interact with as many people as we do now.
@Constable_What fwiw I definitely understand their frustration. I guess I just feel uncomfortable with the way we roast each other and engage in pile ons. It just feels like there's a better way we could all communicate, and shut down bad takes especially when it's not even a particularly heinous one - just ignorant.
That said I'd still buy games from these companies.
Edit: and I should also mention I stand in solidarity with them against leakers and hackers. all ire should be directed in that direction imo.
@riceNpea I think I kinda agree with you a little actually. This could be some 12 year old trying to seem smart and then an entire industry piles on him/her (though let's be honest this was almost definitely a guy). Seems a bit overkill. Especially with suicide rates what they are these days and how that has a lot to do with social media and how we treat each other.
Anyway, just seems weird to latch onto what was surely some nobody's comment. It's whatever I guess though. I can't say I'm always the nicest person online but I do try to avoid insulting people or piling on when someone has clearly been proven wrong.
@BartoxTharglod I guess our only hope in an all digital future is that someone challenges Sony on their policies, legally speaking. Like Epic with Apple.
@BartoxTharglod fair enough. And yeah we'd call it a convenience store but I'm the same. I'd rather starve then pick something up there. Or vending machines. I go to work with people who get something out of those basically every day and in my head I'm like "what are you doing?!"
So I share your miserly ways for most things. But I've slowly become a sucker for digital. It mostly started when I figured out I could buy one game and play at the same time with my son while he's on a separate console. Made stuff like Borderlands (which we enjoyed together) so much easier than split screen. Things kinda grew from there. It does definitely bother me that digital locks you into one store when it comes to PlayStation, not gonna lie.
Never thought about the region thing. Pretty secure in the idea I'll never leave the states as much as I'd love to so that's not a concern but I can see how having that flexibility would be good.
@BartoxTharglod so been following the discussion. and I'm just wondering, is there any place in your life where you take the more expensive option out of convenience? Don't worry this isn't a pretext for stirring things up but I'm just kinda curious really.
@nessisonett they're probably just going to push teams to work night and day to get caught back up to where they were. which is extremely unfortunate to say the least.
@Stocksy You complained about people saying the hacker should rot in jail so pardon my confusion. The existence of rapists doesn't make breaching someone else's network and stealing from them any less wrong in my view.
@ReadySlayerOne just a heads up that the age recommendations for most VR headsets is around 12 or 13+ with HTC even saying children shouldn't use it at all. Definitely not out here to tell anyone how to parent but I did wanna just put that out there.
This stuff is fairly new and there's been very little to no research on the long term effects of VR on things like vision and brain development in children. Seems like most people in child development recommend exercising extreme caution in this area, in the absence of data.
@Fight_Teza_Fight no they don't have any "real" value, although Sony Rewards did have the trophy pass program up until 2019 which allowed users to earn points on trophies and I think they'd be a little more willing to crack down on this nonsense were that still around.
But anyway back to value, accolades rarely do have value except to the recipient. And that value, unquantifiable as it may be, is surely being diminished by a pay per plat scheme. It'd be like if I could just buy an Olympic gold medal just all normal like, at the store.
@Fight_Teza_Fight idk, I'm not big into trophies so this doesn't impact me much but this really does dilute their value. There are people putting on impressive displays of platinum-snagging and then you have the option to just basically buy them. And if you're just looking at totals, they all weigh the same. That's a busted system if you ask me.
I guess this shouldn't bother me. But it really, really does. I like money as much as the next guy but I'd be downright embarrassed to carry garbage like this on my storefront.
Yeah I'll definitely take a free or reduced price upgrade path but none of these VR titles are that much to begin with so, idk, I won't be too mad at a standard purchase price honestly.
Good to hear that devs are working on upgrades in any case.
Orlando Bloom is pretty much always Paris to me. Hard for me to get that image of him out of my head for whatever reason. I think it's one of those things where the character is just way too close to what I figure he's actually like. Idk.
Anyway, there are worse actors and this also isn't the dumbest premise so y'know, we'll see.
On the topic at hand, this was expected. I'm kinda hoping for some patches on a few games, or an upgrade path but even then I'm mostly just excited for new things.
@BritneyfR_ee recently moved a ps5 into my kids' room where their ps4 had been. Never had any trouble with the ps4 WiFi at that location but the ps5 in the exact same spot acts like I'm a block away from my router. The connection is abysmal. I can hardly connect just to get a game to start downloading, much less play anything that requires a connection.
@theheadofabroom yeah even the floating hands do some funny things sometimes, which is admittedly distracting, so I could see how this could be amplified with poorly tracked/rendered arms but idk, I think when most people imagine the VR of our future, it's a world where we have arms.
It's not a deal breaker mind you. Just a quibble. And an understandable omission given where we're at now.
@BeerIsAwesome yeah true. Especially in China who Hollywood pretty heavily caters to, for better or worse, so it makes sense in that regard. Guess I'm just wondering if it's a movie for gearheads or eSports fandom or a weird combination of both. And does that work?
Hey I thought Uncharted would be an absolute bomb but I was wrong there so what do I know. I'm not in the 18-30 demo anymore so it's entirely possible I'm completely out of touch.
@BeerIsAwesome I love a good car-themed movie as much as the next guy but this sounds to be more like The Wizard but with GT instead of Mario. Guess I'm just not sure how many car guys want to watch an eSports movie. "Man did you see the way he drove that virtual car? Sick!"
@PegasusActual93 I'm saying I hear you but as someone you also loves VR I can't wait for the day I can see my arms. I mean, at least down to the elbow.
@PegasusActual93 @PegasusActual93 when you explain it like that I can see how some movements might end up looking awkward but I'd argue floating hands look pretty awkward too. It's one of my biggest gripes in VR. I imagine we'll get there but for the moment, severed hands really aren't very immersive imo.
If Michelle or Julia Chang are on the base roster then I'll likely get it but if they do me like they did 7 it's a pass. Maybe wait for the ultimate edition years down the road.
@get2sammyb tbf, with no mention of it in the article, I was beginning to question if i'd read into the previous article incorrectly, as it was awhile back and I've slept since then, because yeah I just saw these digital collectibles and thought wait, that's all they're doing with this?
@Amusei it's cool, I get it. it does feel a little after-school special-ish in tone, even if not overly message driven, so I guess I can see going to "woke" as a description. But yeah, looks to have the potential to be corny. We'll see though.
@Amusei I have the same query? Not even out to argue either but, idk, maybe I haven't seen enough of this game because nothing really screams woke to me. Though I guess, like everyone else, it's getting harder and harder to identify what that word even means from one person to the next.
This one's just too hard to pin down for me. It's rare that I'm this undecided on a game's appeal but that's where I'm at. Most likely gonna wait for a sale on this one. But I hope it does well if it turns out to be a great title.
@Beerheadgamer82 just think when someone is happy to see some game "destroying" other games (whatever that means really), which is one of the first comments you're greeted with, it's hard not to be like, huh?
But fair point that overall the comments seem generally tame, even amusing. Guess I just assumed things went south from the jump, as they often do. I admit to not reading every comment. Though in my defense likening the rhetoric to a political discussion was meant to be hyperbolic.
And if you feel I've gone too off topic, or if anyone does, my apologies.
I always wonder who the people are that read something as benign as a weekly sales chart and think, alright cool now lemme pick a fight.
Is it just boredom? Like my almost universal response to these is an ambivalent "okay" and then I head to the comments where you'd think we were discussing some deeply controversial political matter.
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Re: PSVR2 Launches 22nd February 2023, Costs $550
@KundaliniRising333 PSVR games definitely skewed gimmicky but much of this had to do with the aging move controllers. They were incredibly limiting. It'll be interesting to see what devs do with more capable controllers. Above and beyond the spec upgrades, this has got to be the most significant change coming to PSVR2 imo.
Though I can see why none of this justifies the expenditure in today's economy, I'm still really excited to see what can come out of VR what with Sony clearly taking it more serious with this iteration.
Re: PSVR2 Launches 22nd February 2023, Costs $550
This doesn't seem particularly steep to me. So it's more a matter of beating out the bots. Not optimistic on that front but we shall see.
Re: Random: Video Game News Posting Machine Nibel Quits Twitter
Also never heard of this account but good for him nonetheless.
Re: God of War Ragnarok PS5, PS4 Spoilers Rife As Retailers Break Street Date
"It's easy, just avoid the internet (and thusly, anyone irl who might have been on the internet)" isn't the big-brained solution some of you think it is.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for November 2022?
It's somewhat a source of fascination at this point that Sony manages to release 3 games every month that I have absolutely no interest in. Like. Every. Single. Month. There's maybe one a year I look forward to.
And I've mostly enjoyed Extra thus far but if it ends up just becoming primarily an Ubisoft dump, and it's maybe kinda looking that way, then that may change.
Re: The Callisto Protocol Cancels Japanese Release After Refusing to Censor Violence
@IonMagi interesting and disturbing. Odd that dude gets to release an autobiography, recounting the murders in detail apparently, but regular Joe's can't play Callisto Protocol.
Does make me feel a little better to know that reactionary conservatives live in other countries besides just the US. Or maybe now I feel worse lol.
Re: PS Stars Guide: All Campaigns, Solutions, and FAQs
@J-smash it's a bit of a proverbial kick in the teeth if you ask me. Like, seriously, we bought your premium priced remake at launch but can't be grandfathered in here? Like those 50 points, absolutely worthless on their own, are gonna break Sony or something.
Re: Gearbox Says Tiny Tina's Wonderlands is a 'Major Victory', Expect Future Entries in Franchise
@Uromastryx Nah I played it for like 20 minutes. Pretty boring. Same old game, same tired graphics and stale humor, but with spells. Just my opinion.
Re: Gearbox Says Tiny Tina's Wonderlands is a 'Major Victory', Expect Future Entries in Franchise
@Elodin This is one I had my eye on as well. Then along came the trial on premium. Ended up glad I didn't buy it, even on sale. If you've played one Borderlands you've played them all at this point, and unfortunately this one is no different in that regard.
Re: GTA 6 Hackers Potentially Under Investigation by the FBI
@Would_you_kindly oooooh. Okay, then yeah ignore me. Lol.
But wow... this comments section.
Re: Random: Developers Unite After Viral Take Gets the Meme Treatment
@Constable_What I guess... I'd just hate to see something dumb I've said get so much attention it becomes a news story. It's one thing to get clowned on by your peer group. It's another thing when it's the whole world, or what must feel like the whole world.
Lol, really resisting the urge to go on a Yuval Noah Harari inspired rant about how we were never meant to be able to interact with as many people as we do now.
Re: Soapbox: Bring Back Warhawk on PS5, You Cowards
Planetside is probably the closest we'll ever get.
Re: Random: Developers Unite After Viral Take Gets the Meme Treatment
@Constable_What fwiw I definitely understand their frustration. I guess I just feel uncomfortable with the way we roast each other and engage in pile ons. It just feels like there's a better way we could all communicate, and shut down bad takes especially when it's not even a particularly heinous one - just ignorant.
That said I'd still buy games from these companies.
Edit: and I should also mention I stand in solidarity with them against leakers and hackers. all ire should be directed in that direction imo.
Re: Random: Developers Unite After Viral Take Gets the Meme Treatment
@Voltan oh wow, so they even doubled down? Weird.
Re: Random: Developers Unite After Viral Take Gets the Meme Treatment
@riceNpea I think I kinda agree with you a little actually. This could be some 12 year old trying to seem smart and then an entire industry piles on him/her (though let's be honest this was almost definitely a guy). Seems a bit overkill. Especially with suicide rates what they are these days and how that has a lot to do with social media and how we treat each other.
Anyway, just seems weird to latch onto what was surely some nobody's comment. It's whatever I guess though. I can't say I'm always the nicest person online but I do try to avoid insulting people or piling on when someone has clearly been proven wrong.
Re: GTA 6 Hackers Potentially Under Investigation by the FBI
@Would_you_kindly I think it's because they are American companies. Unless you're just joking, in which case, nevermind.
@nomither6 it's theft.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Redesign to Feature Detachable Disc Drive
@BartoxTharglod I guess our only hope in an all digital future is that someone challenges Sony on their policies, legally speaking. Like Epic with Apple.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Redesign to Feature Detachable Disc Drive
@BartoxTharglod fair enough. And yeah we'd call it a convenience store but I'm the same. I'd rather starve then pick something up there. Or vending machines. I go to work with people who get something out of those basically every day and in my head I'm like "what are you doing?!"
So I share your miserly ways for most things. But I've slowly become a sucker for digital. It mostly started when I figured out I could buy one game and play at the same time with my son while he's on a separate console. Made stuff like Borderlands (which we enjoyed together) so much easier than split screen. Things kinda grew from there. It does definitely bother me that digital locks you into one store when it comes to PlayStation, not gonna lie.
Never thought about the region thing. Pretty secure in the idea I'll never leave the states as much as I'd love to so that's not a concern but I can see how having that flexibility would be good.
Well anyway, like I said, just wondering.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Redesign to Feature Detachable Disc Drive
@BartoxTharglod so been following the discussion. and I'm just wondering, is there any place in your life where you take the more expensive option out of convenience? Don't worry this isn't a pretext for stirring things up but I'm just kinda curious really.
Re: GTA 6 Leak Won't Disrupt Development, Rockstar Vows to Exceed Expectations
@nessisonett they're probably just going to push teams to work night and day to get caught back up to where they were. which is extremely unfortunate to say the least.
Re: Gigantic GTA 6 Leak Confirmed Real as Devs Show Support for Rockstar
@Stocksy You complained about people saying the hacker should rot in jail so pardon my confusion. The existence of rapists doesn't make breaching someone else's network and stealing from them any less wrong in my view.
Re: Gigantic GTA 6 Leak Confirmed Real as Devs Show Support for Rockstar
@Stocksy so hacking shouldn't be a criminal offense. Are you okay?
Re: NBA 2K23 (PS5) - Not Even Microtransactions Can Ruin Revolutionary Franchise Mode
Really enjoying Parker Molloy's thread on this game over on Twitter. Recommend checking that out if you're on the fence about this game.
Re: Rumour: Massive GTA 6 Leak Posts 90 Videos Online
I don't understand who benefits from this at all. I get that it's news so you gotta cover it but ugh, these leakers are slimy af.
Re: Rumour: Tons of PSVR2 Devs Porting PSVR Games to New Headset
@ReadySlayerOne just a heads up that the age recommendations for most VR headsets is around 12 or 13+ with HTC even saying children shouldn't use it at all. Definitely not out here to tell anyone how to parent but I did wanna just put that out there.
This stuff is fairly new and there's been very little to no research on the long term effects of VR on things like vision and brain development in children. Seems like most people in child development recommend exercising extreme caution in this area, in the absence of data.
Re: Resident Evil Village's Visuals Still Stunning with PSVR2
@Grimwood right!? I feel like I'm the only one that finds RE way too silly to be scary.
Re: Stroke the Dog 2,000 Times for 71 PS5, PS4 Trophies
@Fight_Teza_Fight no they don't have any "real" value, although Sony Rewards did have the trophy pass program up until 2019 which allowed users to earn points on trophies and I think they'd be a little more willing to crack down on this nonsense were that still around.
But anyway back to value, accolades rarely do have value except to the recipient. And that value, unquantifiable as it may be, is surely being diminished by a pay per plat scheme. It'd be like if I could just buy an Olympic gold medal just all normal like, at the store.
Re: Resident Evil Village's Visuals Still Stunning with PSVR2
Ah that's good to hear. I'm so ready to play without every game having that blurry veneer.
Re: Stroke the Dog 2,000 Times for 71 PS5, PS4 Trophies
@Fight_Teza_Fight idk, I'm not big into trophies so this doesn't impact me much but this really does dilute their value. There are people putting on impressive displays of platinum-snagging and then you have the option to just basically buy them. And if you're just looking at totals, they all weigh the same. That's a busted system if you ask me.
Re: Stroke the Dog 2,000 Times for 71 PS5, PS4 Trophies
I guess this shouldn't bother me. But it really, really does. I like money as much as the next guy but I'd be downright embarrassed to carry garbage like this on my storefront.
Re: Rumour: Tons of PSVR2 Devs Porting PSVR Games to New Headset
Yeah I'll definitely take a free or reduced price upgrade path but none of these VR titles are that much to begin with so, idk, I won't be too mad at a standard purchase price honestly.
Good to hear that devs are working on upgrades in any case.
Re: Orlando Bloom, Archie Madekwe Join the Cast of Gran Turismo Movie
Orlando Bloom is pretty much always Paris to me. Hard for me to get that image of him out of my head for whatever reason. I think it's one of those things where the character is just way too close to what I figure he's actually like. Idk.
Anyway, there are worse actors and this also isn't the dumbest premise so y'know, we'll see.
Re: PSVR2 Isn't Backwards Compatible with PSVR Games, Sony Confirms
On the topic at hand, this was expected. I'm kinda hoping for some patches on a few games, or an upgrade path but even then I'm mostly just excited for new things.
Re: PSVR2 Isn't Backwards Compatible with PSVR Games, Sony Confirms
@BritneyfR_ee recently moved a ps5 into my kids' room where their ps4 had been. Never had any trouble with the ps4 WiFi at that location but the ps5 in the exact same spot acts like I'm a block away from my router. The connection is abysmal. I can hardly connect just to get a game to start downloading, much less play anything that requires a connection.
Really seems like it's an issue with the ps5.
Re: Horizon Call of the Mountain Looks Gorgeous in Brief Glimpse at PSVR2 Gameplay
@theheadofabroom yeah even the floating hands do some funny things sometimes, which is admittedly distracting, so I could see how this could be amplified with poorly tracked/rendered arms but idk, I think when most people imagine the VR of our future, it's a world where we have arms.
It's not a deal breaker mind you. Just a quibble. And an understandable omission given where we're at now.
Re: Stranger Things' David Harbour Joins the Cast for Gran Turismo Movie
@BeerIsAwesome yeah true. Especially in China who Hollywood pretty heavily caters to, for better or worse, so it makes sense in that regard. Guess I'm just wondering if it's a movie for gearheads or eSports fandom or a weird combination of both. And does that work?
Hey I thought Uncharted would be an absolute bomb but I was wrong there so what do I know. I'm not in the 18-30 demo anymore so it's entirely possible I'm completely out of touch.
Re: Stranger Things' David Harbour Joins the Cast for Gran Turismo Movie
@BeerIsAwesome I love a good car-themed movie as much as the next guy but this sounds to be more like The Wizard but with GT instead of Mario. Guess I'm just not sure how many car guys want to watch an eSports movie. "Man did you see the way he drove that virtual car? Sick!"
Mostly I'm just confused what it's about lol.
Re: Horizon Call of the Mountain Looks Gorgeous in Brief Glimpse at PSVR2 Gameplay
@PegasusActual93 I'm saying I hear you but as someone you also loves VR I can't wait for the day I can see my arms. I mean, at least down to the elbow.
Re: Horizon Call of the Mountain Looks Gorgeous in Brief Glimpse at PSVR2 Gameplay
@PegasusActual93 @PegasusActual93 when you explain it like that I can see how some movements might end up looking awkward but I'd argue floating hands look pretty awkward too. It's one of my biggest gripes in VR. I imagine we'll get there but for the moment, severed hands really aren't very immersive imo.
Re: Stranger Things' David Harbour Joins the Cast for Gran Turismo Movie
Who is this movie for?
Re: Disney Dreamlight Valley (PS5) - An Irresistibly Charming Life Sim
@frankmcma thanks to you and the reviewer both. Pretty much answered all my questions between the two of you.
Re: The Sims 4 Will Be Free-to-Play on PS4 Starting Next Month
That's cool but their commitment to more dlc in the future pretty much dashes any hopes of getting a new installment. Which is a bummer.
Re: Tekken 8's Stunning Trailer Was Gameplay Captured Directly from PS5
If Michelle or Julia Chang are on the base roster then I'll likely get it but if they do me like they did 7 it's a pass. Maybe wait for the ultimate edition years down the road.
Re: PS Stars' Digital Collectibles Can Be Displayed on Your PSN Profile
@get2sammyb tbf, with no mention of it in the article, I was beginning to question if i'd read into the previous article incorrectly, as it was awhile back and I've slept since then, because yeah I just saw these digital collectibles and thought wait, that's all they're doing with this?
Re: The Last of Us 1 Trophy Guide: All Trophies and How to Get the Platinum
Not sure there are any training manuals in Left Behind, or if there are, they aren't required for the trophy.
Re: Round Up: Forspoken Previews Prove It's More Than a Meme
@Amusei it's cool, I get it. it does feel a little after-school special-ish in tone, even if not overly message driven, so I guess I can see going to "woke" as a description. But yeah, looks to have the potential to be corny. We'll see though.
Re: Round Up: Forspoken Previews Prove It's More Than a Meme
@Amusei I have the same query? Not even out to argue either but, idk, maybe I haven't seen enough of this game because nothing really screams woke to me. Though I guess, like everyone else, it's getting harder and harder to identify what that word even means from one person to the next.
Re: Round Up: Forspoken Previews Prove It's More Than a Meme
This one's just too hard to pin down for me. It's rare that I'm this undecided on a game's appeal but that's where I'm at. Most likely gonna wait for a sale on this one. But I hope it does well if it turns out to be a great title.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Horizon Forbidden West and The Last of Us 1 Grounded in the Top 5
@Beerheadgamer82 just think when someone is happy to see some game "destroying" other games (whatever that means really), which is one of the first comments you're greeted with, it's hard not to be like, huh?
But fair point that overall the comments seem generally tame, even amusing. Guess I just assumed things went south from the jump, as they often do. I admit to not reading every comment. Though in my defense likening the rhetoric to a political discussion was meant to be hyperbolic.
And if you feel I've gone too off topic, or if anyone does, my apologies.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Horizon Forbidden West and The Last of Us 1 Grounded in the Top 5
I always wonder who the people are that read something as benign as a weekly sales chart and think, alright cool now lemme pick a fight.
Is it just boredom? Like my almost universal response to these is an ambivalent "okay" and then I head to the comments where you'd think we were discussing some deeply controversial political matter.