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@dark_knightmare2 she really wasn't that jacked though but I suppose it depends on which flashback we're talking about. And she seemed to get frustrated with Manny for cutting in the line for food so, for all her other faults, she didn't seem like one to take advantage of her status in the way you suggest. And trust me, there's plenty of gross discourse around this game, much of which I roundly ignore; I love this game. But complaints about her physique being a tad unrealistic aren't without some merit. Strong, jacked women, or unconventional body types, I have no problem with. (See: True Detective S4 or Glow - 2 shows I love) It just seemed anachronistic in this case. I'd say the same if there were a male character in this series like her but there really isn't.

Like I mentioned it's all good though. It doesn't keep me from enjoying the game.

@Sondheimist @Blaze215 interestingly the nutrient thing was kinda my only issue with Abby being that buff. Sure there's food, and a gym, but it's a militarized zone she's living in. Ostensibly they are rationing food so it's gonna be hard to consume the necessary calories to build that much muscle. After all we do see her when she is young. A little tomboyish sure but frankly, there's nothing there leading us to believe she's a future Ms. Olympia. And while we don't know her mother, just going by her father... meh, I'm not seeing where this is coming from genetically either. So I always felt they went a little overboard on Abby but it's certainly not a deal breaker. Just thought they made her that way as to contrast Ellie and also so as to really help punctuate how much she must have suffered there at the end.

If that's a masculine body type I may have questions I need to start asking myself as a supposed straight male.

More related note... I didn't even realize this show was a thing. Definitely will check it out at least. I liked new trilogy Lara anyway.

@gollumb82 yeah, gets a little old. I'm decidedly not broke precisely because I don't spend my money on what I consider to be foolish things. Now that definition is certainly in the eye of the beholder, so I understand it differs from person to person but simple fact of the matter is I don't see the value in this upgrade. It's really not about affordability.

@Jacko11 I'm almost certain this was in the game already.

@rusty82 good to know. I don't take any of them too serious so really I've enjoyed all of them with the exception of Man of Medan. Family typically all sit down together and just go with whatever but Man of Medan was just so boring. Couldn't finish it. Devil in Me is the only one I'm missing.

Looking forward to playing The Devil in Me with the fam.

There's no way the old version is the best version to play anyway, even with new one being at 30fps. So not only is this only affecting specific regions, and not only is it probably a bug... All that aside, anyone coming to this for the first time would be better off playing the re-worked version anyway.

@Maubari no, it's just buggy as all get out. playability seeming to depend on blind luck alone.

@sanderson72 yeah wasn't sure on the particulars with this one but it kinda sounds like it's getting abandoned altogether. Not sure though. At the end of the day, with modern games being put out in rather shoddy shape at release, it's clear we're still at the mercy of the continued operation of some server somewhere.

@Flaming_Kaiser @Maubari @BookhouseBoy To be fair the disc copy of this game is pretty broken so I'd say physical isn't always foolproof these days.

I will buy whatever overpriced console or build whatever spec PC is necessary to play this.

"The frame rate is very nearly flawless, with only some tiny dips during transitions in cut-scenes."

I'm sorry, what now?

@LikelySatan Sir I'll have you know Little Caesars is delicious and is, unfortunately, no longer $5.99. Them hot and ready's are like $7 now.

@Balosi those Camilla ones are insane. I largely steer clear. Too deflating.

@NEStalgia lol well flailing about was no problem for me. that i had down for better or worse. definitely opposites in that way.

and yeah i hated those where they want you to purposely miss so many as an objective. but even there I guess it gets you better at monitoring the other parts of the screen (or something).

iirc correctly Burning Sands and Overkill, both of which i absolutely love on expert, have sections of sabotage toward the end. so yeah, i know what you mean, very frustrating.

@MrPeanutbutterz well you gotta spend it to make it, or so i hear lol. anyway i'd mount a better counter argument but it's not that serious really. just disappointing to have gone into this gen with expectations of swappable plates to get all of 5 basic colors in roughly 4 years (and no I will not dignify the camo option by including it).

@MrPeanutbutterz yes and not having that fab process is a conscious decision. you're supposing a world where these can't be printed, which doesn't exist.

I don't see the sense in jilting og PS5 owners. Surely that's the majority of the consoles out there, no? Are they expecting us all to upgrade just for plates? I don't get it as usual.

@NEStalgia yeah I think I completed the campaign, or a great deal of it I don't really remember, and while I think it actually does help you get better in some ways* I agree the real fun is just free playing whatever songs you want at your preferred difficulty.

*There was one campaign level in particular where you had to basically move as little as possible and getting the hang of essentially using just your wrists was more difficult for me than it maybe should have been but I think that was one I remember really helping me get better.

@NEStalgia Also not a fan of Britney but I also really love what I would consider terrible music when played on Beat Saber. In fact most of the music is trash imo but turns out trashy music can actually be really, really fun to slash blocks to.

Speaking of long maps(?) have you tried Angel Voices? One of my favs for sure just because it's so grueling but satisfying at the same time. Expert is the sweet spot for me where it's not so challenging it's frustrating but I will say I used to be fairly terrible and one tip I'd give is do not be afraid to slow a song down to learn it. Giving myself that opportunity for my brain to catch up with the patterns really helped.

Horizon in Lego form is brilliant. I was so so very tempted by that Tallneck a couple years ago but it was ultimately an expense I found hard to justify. Something about the two worlds, lego and horizon, really gels though.

Having said that, the Lego games have been fairly janky and uninspired for a minute now. Much like the Tell-tale games they took what was a really good idea in the beginning and ran it into the ground with seemingly no improvements or innovations. So having been burned by a couple Lego digital properties now, I'm holding out until I hear some absolutely raving reviews and even then this is definitely a "buy on sale" purchase.

EDIT: I guess it's fair to acknowledge this isn't developed by TT Games and so past performance may not speak to future results.

@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare I'd say that's a fairly spot on summation though I wouldn't personally call AC better as I could never get into those games.

@PuppetMaster honestly I did the same with HFW. basically completed everything then got done and realized I didn't really enjoy most of it.

That's good because that was really what kept me from finishing GoT. Got fairly bored personally. Still plan to go back to it at some point, I'm just kinda intimidated by re-learning the controls so deep into the game.

@LuXifer Someone else who gets it! I know all the other commenters here are much smarter than me and you but I had no reason to doubt this was intended. Its appearance being a little off wasn't a clear indicator either, instead it simply looked as if they botched the implementation.

Acting like more ads is far-fetched is borderline delusional though.

I'm not so conspiracy-minded that I believe this was all just a test (as if Sony needs confirmation that people hate ads) but maybe just apologize on X instead of telling people to settle down. Weird response.

I personally think the UI is still littered with way too much promotional BS but that's just me and anyway I've learned to live with it. Thankful this didn't add to it in any case.

@Shalooda I would never consider gaming and golf anywhere near each other in terms of their affordability and accessibility to the every day consumer to be honest. I mean I get that some regular joes buy golf clubs but at the end of the day it's an extremely elitist sport. Never saw gaming to be that way. I grew up in a trailer house and still had a Nintendo. There definitely wasn't any golfing going on however.

But really my point was just trying to get others to see why people who didn't plan on getting this console might still care how it sells. Wasn't really my intention to get into a debate as to whether this is luxury or not. It's kinda all relative anyway.

@Kalime78 I really don't know what Sony will do. But you do have people even in this very comments thread resigning themselves to playstations being luxury items. That attitude is relevant. The price point for the "premium" model in 2024 is relevant to the price for the more powerful and newer gen model in 20XX.

@roe But there's an elasticity to it at the moment. Some of y'all (not necessarily you but just in general) are absolutely ensuring Sony prices this thing out of reach of people who kinda just like to have a console kicking around. I mean that's Sony's prerogative of course, if they wanna be Apple okay I guess but as consumers we do have a say in that.

@Pranwell why be concerned about a future purchase? it's possible I may not have quite the Buddhist, que sera sera attitude that others have but imo, that's part of being an adult honestly - planning for future purchases. Seriously no disrespect intended but I think some people are being way too unconcerned about how much things cost.

@roe the relevance for the "it's too expensive" crowd is not hard to see. if this is a success, it sets a precedent. it's not just people being busy bodies or envious or bitter. it impacts what sony will likely do for the PS6.

EDIT: sorry, wrong word I just woke up

I don't understand who defends any number of ads on a luxury gaming console. This isn't supposed to be ad supported. I bought the thing. It's mine. Good grief this is stupid but it's whatever I've come to accept I hate this gen and probably will all subsequent abominable manifestations of late stage capitalism. This is the world now I guess.

Meh. It looks better in a way. But then the cheek bones aren't as pronounced and the smile lines have completely gone away which do y'know help people look more like people. Plus something about the new image is too smooth, especially the clothes. But lighting-wise I like the remastered image. The glossy lips are silly but it is what it is. Regardless I doubt I could replay this despite absolutely loving it the first time around. I think the slog that was HFW kinda killed this series for me.

@Pushsquarian @Northern_munkey @MikeOrator @themightyant @Weebleman @AhmadSumadi @Kidfunkadelic83 I'm definitely curious who all has me blocked though. That would actually really bother me because I try really hard not to be too annoying.

@Pranwell I appreciate the reminder that this site is exclusively for glazing Sony. My bad, carry on.

@get2sammyb you're letting them off the hook because of Astrobot? Disappointing reply tbh.

I can't see this being worth it. But maybe I'm playing my games wrong because some of these "upgrades" seem like something I won't notice. That is unless someone with a Pro is sitting next to me on an 8k TV and we're both playing the same game and we pause it to inspect the grass every now and then.

This thing just needs games. Otherwise, yeah, it's dead. Feels like I'm pointing out the obvious but maybe not, since Sony thought hey let's release a headset with no games.

"Factions, The Last of Us 2013's multiplayer offering was a long time ago, folks; expectations are vastly different these days."

Look, don't get me wrong, Fortnite is a behemoth and one can't ignore its existence but there's an audience for alternatives. I'm certain there are gamers out there who just can't get behind lollipop pickaxes and Ariana Grande skins. Like, surely that's not a controversial take.

I want no part of this. If I've decided on a difficulty I want to finish on that difficulty. No interest in having Luigi pop in and ask if I wanna cheese it because I've hit a challenging section.

@EfYI fan of ND but there's no question this is a leadership blunder. Whether that's at ND or SIE is up for debate but clearly someone f'd this up. And when you think about how you can get fired from a normal job for so much less it'll be frustrating but not surprising to see absolutely nothing change.

Well, I guess Jim Ryan's already on the way out and that's probably the closest anyone will get to accountability.

@Camlambelot I've been saying a Joel and Tommy prequel for years!

@AK4tywill Yeah I'm really not seeing how it was one or the other. everyone is just accepting their PR speak framing. not sure why.

Obviously they aren't going to say "yeah we could have scaled back our mp ambitions but then that wouldn't bring in gaas money so Sony had us cancel." But that's ultimately what happened.

Not a fan of online games and had mostly just a curious interest in this but this is complete BS.

And I don't buy that this is a result of ND taking on too much, especially not when you consider Bungie's involvement. It's probably more like, game wasn't live service enough and it was gonna take too much to make it so (to make the changes Bungie wanted).

In any case, it's an absolute embarrassment that a flagship studio leads fans on for years just to cancel. This isn't some Kickstarter project. No excuse for this imo.

Was fairly against the idea of a pro but the more it sounds like a reality the more tempted I am. But it depends on when it comes out. If it's 2024 then nah but I think I'd be ready by 2025.

@ShogunRok Thanks for making 3 the minimum. Just thought I'd show some appreciation on that.

Just don't understand why Sony couldn't make plates like these for the masses. Forever a mystery.

I snagged the WLF edition, because I'm an idiot.

@B_Lindz I think @MatthewJP is being sarcastic with you. The point being you can't play Epic games on your PlayStation and you'll need a fairly new device to run these games so it's not a great comparison.

I'm not picking a side either, I don't have a PC capable of paying anything worthwhile and I've recently quit Plus because I don't see the value in it.

Never played any Fallout for whatever reason but interested in this if Nolan and Joy are attached. Seeing what looks like Ella Purnell and Walton Goggins doesn't hurt either. Trying not judge it for being Amazon Prime though.

No one cares that it's blunt. It's the "definitely" that makes it sound salty. Office culture shade is usually subtle like that.

Sounds like there's some friction there to me. Maybe not a great sign.