@riceNpea that's what I'm trying to say. I'd argue the busting line isn't as recognizable. I didn't recognize it when I read the headline in fact. Never seen it referenced in any promotional material outside of this tweet either.
We can agree to disagree on that though. My familiarity with something isn't the end all be all for how common it is for everyone else.
@riceNpea you could literally go up to anyone on the planet and say "who you gonna call?" and they'd probably reply Ghostbusters. On the other hand if you went up to strangers exclaiming "busting makes me feel good" you'd probably end up in police custody.
@riceNpea the song's line, is itself, an innuendo. I'd also argue this is a fairly obscure line. It's not in a verse and not part of chorus. But that's certainly up for debate.
But by "in my mind" I mean that's how you get by with an innuendo. It's not explicit but makes a connection to things we all know to mean other things... thus we all get the meaning (in our minds) without being overtly vulgar.
@PegasusActual93 well, I mean, if it's explicit it's not an innuendo.
In any case I'd say alluding to orgasms to sell a video game seems edgy to me but this could be a difference between marketing in the US vs marketing in the UK.
@NinjaSixx but you can buy store credit at a discount quite frequently. Then there's PlayStation stars points along with PlayStation Visa points (if you have those). I'd say it all shakes out about the same if you play things right, with the exception of resale... physical does have that advantage.
Also, for some of us, the PlayStation store doesn't collect sales tax so that's basically a 10 percent discount where I live.
Kinda with @Olmaz here in that it seems like the real story here is that more monetisation is on the way in the form of seasonal fatality bundles. Less of an apology and more of a doubling down, no?
@PsBoxSwitchOwner it looks quite a bit smaller to me, don't really understand where that headline came from. I'll probably continue to call it a slim like everyone else because it's smaller and gets the point across without saying version two, or redesign, or late 2023 model or however we're supposed to identify it.
@Fiendish-Beaver funny thing is she's actually closer to the age of part II Ellie already so I don't think she's going to get to a point where she looks much older any time soon. Still seems like bad casting imo but it's whatevs.
I'm sure the series will still be pretty solid regardless.
@DennisReynolds @OmegaStriver guess we should have known with all of WB's restructuring and financial woes. Seems like any decision they've made lately has been impacted by that. Because outside of this weak entry, NetherRealm had been having some solid releases.
Ah cool cool. Yeah I guess, having been away from PC for so long I didn't realize they'd gone exclusively digital. Or maybe just mostly digital. I'm still mentally stuck in the days of going into a store and picking up a copy of Warcraft III or whatever.
@nessisonett yeah the thing is just so Vegas. A monument to excess in one the most excess friendly places in the US. does look like a cool concert venue though, I'll give it that.
more to the topic though, I'll be glad when all this Spider-Man fervor dies down. No hate no shade as the kids say but the game doesn't seem all that and I look forward to first party stuff that's a little less lowest common denominator.
@EVIL-C this is hardly worth going back to at this point but I'm rarely on here and don't want things misconstrued. Saying that someone is kneecapping oneself, by taking the digital over the physical, sounds elitist yes. Not just the word on it's own. Because if one wanted the console with a smaller profile, a larger capacity SSD, and has no use for physical media (and can possibly sell the physical for the price of a digital)... I don't know, that just didn't seem like the bad deal you were making it out to be unless you meant that the digital, because it has one less feature, is by default inferior. If that's not the way you meant it then all good. Bygones.
@EVIL-C kneecapping though? that's not elitism? Like if I was said, "I don't know why you'd kneecap yourself by not getting the new iphone" I know what that sounds like to me. But eh. What do I know? I'm without substance.
@Wakozako c'mon man, not one person is saying it's make or break. But downsizing seems to really be making the rounds these days and you're shooting yourself in the foot if you're happily accepting that.
Like there's what I can afford, and then there's what I expect to spend. I can afford hundreds of stands... actually I could probably buy one for every person on this site. I mean they're only $30 and every purchase is in a vacuum apparently. Or, Sony could just include it with their $500 box, as they were already doing.
@Northern_munkey you can clean the fans on every console without removable plates so this was an intentional design choice that seemed, but I guess I'm wrong, to be purely about aesthetics.
To be fair, we have no idea what this remaster even means, much less the price. Or if it's even true. Basically, I see no reason for outrage and indignation just yet.
@Jimmer-jammer fair point. But the situation was still unprecedented. And whatever the reason it left the store, this surely provided some not too noble motivation at CDPR. And cleaning up their mess, in my eyes the bare minimum, just isn't deserving of praise imo.
The true test will be their next launch. If it goes well then okay maybe we can put the whole ugly cyberpunk launch behind us.
Kinda gross if you ask me. In a world where jumping hamburgers make it onto the ps store this game was taken off. PlayStation wouldn't let them sell it! That's... crazy. But that's how bad it was. And so 3 years later after pressure from Sony, and the media, and players, and probably shareholders they made it good... wow. Slow clap.
Idk, I hate live service and online requirements as much as the next guy but this really seems like a non issue. This was always intended as an online game anyway. Now there's little need for it with GT7. Life goes on.
Not much different than how I have Hi8 tapes but nothing to play them on, unless I want to spend an arm and a leg on an old working handheld. Nothing lasts forever, even if you own it.
This definitely sounds like a nightmare imo but it's exactly what should be required for platinum. Not a fan of plats that pop for putting in the minimum amount of effort.
Enjoyed the first but didn't appreciate buying the premium edition (or whatever it was called) only to be paywalled out of the third and final dlc pack. So just waiting for a cheaper, complete edition this time around.
Game is Good to Not Bad. Nothing to write home about but entertaining for what it is. Story mode ending was anti climatic, roster is lacking, invasions is clunky and goofy, they load you down with thousands of grindy customization options and an exceedingly slow shrine to get your loot boxes. But the fighting itself is about what you'd expect. Fun if you're into that kind of thing.
I have very little nice to say about Nintendo but I can't imagine a world without it. Crazy to think of them as another arm of MS. Could still happen if we're being real. No company is safe apparently.
@ArmoredMore but there's still only so many games to choose from and we know they aren't going the gamepass day and date route so idk, I predict it'll be the same slightly dated games that's it's been for a minute now. which, y'know all in all seemed fine with me especially when Extra came along but this thing where essential goes up every couple years... it's not for me. But that's pretty much every subscription these days which is why I generally opt out.
Again though, fwiw, Extra was probably undervalued from the jump and it seems reasonable to rectify that but bumping the bottom tier service up 20 bucks a year? Nah they're wrong for that. Just my humble opinion.
@ArmoredMore my enjoyment one year to the next is, more often than not, complete chance. but I guess if you end up liking the upcoming offerings more and want to chalk it up to the price hike, that's cool. still, I think most folks aren't going to see a noticable difference, as I suspect there's only so many games $6.66 will get you that 5 dollars couldn't.
@ArmoredMore gonna be pretty hard to quantify a difference in quality for a service like this though honestly. Not to mention most folks, much to my chagrin, argue that these "free games" we get through essential aren't really what we're paying for so I'm not sure why the price would need to increase to offer better titles. Kinda proves they aren't free once and for all though so at least there's that.
Extra is an entirely different beast though and a price hike there seems far less an issue imo. Premium, I don't even know why anyone would pay any amount for that but that's just me.
@ArmoredMore monthly is a pretty fair way to break it down. but it's also fair to take into account the percentage of increase (which is a tad high) along with the justification for the increase (which seems to be non-existent).
I don't think it's a matter of 3 more dollars putting anyone into bankruptcy.
@Jacko11 idk, I'm pretty sure if there were games that should be $100, they'd be $100. No one's losing money at the current price point.
It also shouldn't go unnoticed that there are plenty of editions of games that go for well over $100 now. It's pretty unremarkable. So where they feel we should, we're paying what you feel we should be paying.
If it's not a VR Astrobot game I might just sell my headset. I love Beat Saber, and GT7 is super fun when I feel like dragging out the steering wheel, but I don't know if I can justify the cost of all this tech for two games.
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Re: Don't Fret, Physical Fans, The Last of Us 2 Remastered's WLF Edition Contains a Disc
Would be great if they'd give us a price before pre-orders. Need to know if I'm setting time aside for this or not, and that all depends on price.
Re: Does Busting Make You Feel Good? Playful PSVR2 Post Goes Mega Viral
@riceNpea that's what I'm trying to say. I'd argue the busting line isn't as recognizable. I didn't recognize it when I read the headline in fact. Never seen it referenced in any promotional material outside of this tweet either.
We can agree to disagree on that though. My familiarity with something isn't the end all be all for how common it is for everyone else.
Re: Does Busting Make You Feel Good? Playful PSVR2 Post Goes Mega Viral
@riceNpea you could literally go up to anyone on the planet and say "who you gonna call?" and they'd probably reply Ghostbusters. On the other hand if you went up to strangers exclaiming "busting makes me feel good" you'd probably end up in police custody.
Ray Parker Jr guys. That is all.
Re: Does Busting Make You Feel Good? Playful PSVR2 Post Goes Mega Viral
@riceNpea the song's line, is itself, an innuendo. I'd also argue this is a fairly obscure line. It's not in a verse and not part of chorus. But that's certainly up for debate.
But by "in my mind" I mean that's how you get by with an innuendo. It's not explicit but makes a connection to things we all know to mean other things... thus we all get the meaning (in our minds) without being overtly vulgar.
Re: Does Busting Make You Feel Good? Playful PSVR2 Post Goes Mega Viral
@riceNpea can't tell if you're playfully trolling or not. but I agree it's completely in my mind... because that's how innuendos work.
Re: Does Busting Make You Feel Good? Playful PSVR2 Post Goes Mega Viral
@PegasusActual93 well, I mean, if it's explicit it's not an innuendo.
In any case I'd say alluding to orgasms to sell a video game seems edgy to me but this could be a difference between marketing in the US vs marketing in the UK.
Re: Does Busting Make You Feel Good? Playful PSVR2 Post Goes Mega Viral
Not a fan of the edgy, sexual innuendo style of marketing myself. But that's just me.
Re: Huge PS Store Black Friday Sale Live Now, 1,000+ PS5, PS4 Games on Offer
@NinjaSixx but you can buy store credit at a discount quite frequently. Then there's PlayStation stars points along with PlayStation Visa points (if you have those). I'd say it all shakes out about the same if you play things right, with the exception of resale... physical does have that advantage.
Also, for some of us, the PlayStation store doesn't collect sales tax so that's basically a 10 percent discount where I live.
Re: The Last of Us 2 PS5 Version Appears Inevitable Now
It's very likely just a native PS5 version and not a remake so not sure why this upsets literally anyone.
Re: Tekken 8: All Confirmed Characters
The continued lack of Changs is disappointing.
Re: Mortal Kombat 1's Microtransaction Backlash Prompts Free Fatalities
Kinda with @Olmaz here in that it seems like the real story here is that more monetisation is on the way in the form of seasonal fatality bundles. Less of an apology and more of a doubling down, no?
Re: PS5 Slim 'Not That Much Smaller', According to This Teardown Video
@PsBoxSwitchOwner yes and a Shelby is the same as an eco-boost because y'know they're both just Mustangs.
Re: PS5 Slim 'Not That Much Smaller', According to This Teardown Video
@PsBoxSwitchOwner it looks quite a bit smaller to me, don't really understand where that headline came from. I'll probably continue to call it a slim like everyone else because it's smaller and gets the point across without saying version two, or redesign, or late 2023 model or however we're supposed to identify it.
Re: Far Cry 6's PS5, PS4 Post-Release Support Is Now Finished
@VideoGameBoy what are you talking about guerrrrrrrilla?
That said I've sunk an incredible amount of hours into this game.
Re: The Last of Us Season 2 Filming Will Start Early Next Year
@Fiendish-Beaver funny thing is she's actually closer to the age of part II Ellie already so I don't think she's going to get to a point where she looks much older any time soon. Still seems like bad casting imo but it's whatevs.
I'm sure the series will still be pretty solid regardless.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2's Secret Ninja Room Sparks DLC Speculation
If there's Daredevil DLC this game becomes an instant buy. So I'm half hoping it's not Daredevil lol.
Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Fans Are Finished with the PS5 Game's $10 Halloween Fatality
@DennisReynolds @OmegaStriver guess we should have known with all of WB's restructuring and financial woes. Seems like any decision they've made lately has been impacted by that. Because outside of this weak entry, NetherRealm had been having some solid releases.
Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Fans Are Finished with the PS5 Game's $10 Halloween Fatality
Pretty sure if Polyphony can regularly add cars to GT7 for free then surely NRS can add one seasonal fatality. Disgraceful.
Re: Ubisoft Exec Says Physical Sales Slowing, But They're Not Going Away
Ah cool cool. Yeah I guess, having been away from PC for so long I didn't realize they'd gone exclusively digital. Or maybe just mostly digital. I'm still mentally stuck in the days of going into a store and picking up a copy of Warcraft III or whatever.
Re: This Is Probably the Most Spectacular Marvel's Spider-Man 2 PS5 Marketing Yet
@nessisonett yeah the thing is just so Vegas. A monument to excess in one the most excess friendly places in the US. does look like a cool concert venue though, I'll give it that.
more to the topic though, I'll be glad when all this Spider-Man fervor dies down. No hate no shade as the kids say but the game doesn't seem all that and I look forward to first party stuff that's a little less lowest common denominator.
Lol now I'm out here being elitist
Re: Ubisoft Exec Says Physical Sales Slowing, But They're Not Going Away
@Cloud39472 why? Just curious.
Re: Ubisoft Exec Says Physical Sales Slowing, But They're Not Going Away
@EVIL-C this is hardly worth going back to at this point but I'm rarely on here and don't want things misconstrued. Saying that someone is kneecapping oneself, by taking the digital over the physical, sounds elitist yes. Not just the word on it's own. Because if one wanted the console with a smaller profile, a larger capacity SSD, and has no use for physical media (and can possibly sell the physical for the price of a digital)... I don't know, that just didn't seem like the bad deal you were making it out to be unless you meant that the digital, because it has one less feature, is by default inferior. If that's not the way you meant it then all good. Bygones.
Re: Ubisoft Exec Says Physical Sales Slowing, But They're Not Going Away
@EVIL-C kneecapping though? that's not elitism? Like if I was said, "I don't know why you'd kneecap yourself by not getting the new iphone" I know what that sounds like to me. But eh. What do I know? I'm without substance.
Re: Ubisoft Exec Says Physical Sales Slowing, But They're Not Going Away
@tselliot he's just simply incorrect is all.
Re: Ubisoft Exec Says Physical Sales Slowing, But They're Not Going Away
@EVIL-C the insinuation that you're superior for buying physical is why this debate gets needlessly heated.
Re: PS5 Slim Officially Unveiled, Attachable Disc Drive, Launches November
@Wakozako c'mon man, not one person is saying it's make or break. But downsizing seems to really be making the rounds these days and you're shooting yourself in the foot if you're happily accepting that.
Like there's what I can afford, and then there's what I expect to spend. I can afford hundreds of stands... actually I could probably buy one for every person on this site. I mean they're only $30 and every purchase is in a vacuum apparently. Or, Sony could just include it with their $500 box, as they were already doing.
Re: PS5 Slim Officially Unveiled, Attachable Disc Drive, Launches November
@Northern_munkey you can clean the fans on every console without removable plates so this was an intentional design choice that seemed, but I guess I'm wrong, to be purely about aesthetics.
Re: PS5 Slim Officially Unveiled, Attachable Disc Drive, Launches November
So basically I'm never getting any cool plates for my og PS5. Awesome Sony, thanks. Why did you even make them removal again?
Re: Poll: How's Your Hype for Marvel's Spider-Man 2?
@Powerplay94 I was confused by that too. Weird.
I think this is definitely a candidate for most overrated first party series ever and I can't tell if that's an unpopular opinion or not lol.
Re: The Last of Us 2 PS5 Remaster Seems to Be Real
To be fair, we have no idea what this remaster even means, much less the price. Or if it's even true. Basically, I see no reason for outrage and indignation just yet.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Sales Top a Staggering 25 Million as Phantom Liberty Hits 3 Million in a Week
@Jimmer-jammer fair point. But the situation was still unprecedented. And whatever the reason it left the store, this surely provided some not too noble motivation at CDPR. And cleaning up their mess, in my eyes the bare minimum, just isn't deserving of praise imo.
The true test will be their next launch. If it goes well then okay maybe we can put the whole ugly cyberpunk launch behind us.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Sales Top a Staggering 25 Million as Phantom Liberty Hits 3 Million in a Week
Kinda gross if you ask me. In a world where jumping hamburgers make it onto the ps store this game was taken off. PlayStation wouldn't let them sell it! That's... crazy. But that's how bad it was. And so 3 years later after pressure from Sony, and the media, and players, and probably shareholders they made it good... wow. Slow clap.
Re: Chequered Flag for Gran Turismo Sport as Online Services Shut Down in January 2024
*checkered
Idk, I hate live service and online requirements as much as the next guy but this really seems like a non issue. This was always intended as an online game anyway. Now there's little need for it with GT7. Life goes on.
Not much different than how I have Hi8 tapes but nothing to play them on, unless I want to spend an arm and a leg on an old working handheld. Nothing lasts forever, even if you own it.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2's PS5 Trophies Will Require You to Do Everything
This definitely sounds like a nightmare imo but it's exactly what should be required for platinum. Not a fan of plats that pop for putting in the minimum amount of effort.
Re: Preview: Hot Wheels Unleashed 2 Really Does Feel Like a Turbocharged Sequel
Enjoyed the first but didn't appreciate buying the premium edition (or whatever it was called) only to be paywalled out of the third and final dlc pack. So just waiting for a cheaper, complete edition this time around.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Mortal Kombat 1?
Game is Good to Not Bad. Nothing to write home about but entertaining for what it is. Story mode ending was anti climatic, roster is lacking, invasions is clunky and goofy, they load you down with thousands of grindy customization options and an exceedingly slow shrine to get your loot boxes. But the fighting itself is about what you'd expect. Fun if you're into that kind of thing.
Re: Free PS5 Game Offered to New Console Buyers in the USA
Frustrating as I just bought a second console a few days ago.
Re: No New The Last of Us Game or TV Show Announcements Tomorrow
@NeonTiger isn't there just a tentative deal with the writers only?
Re: PlayStation's 2024 Release Schedule Is Already a Joke
Seems a fairly underwhelming list imo but I barely have time to touch my PS5 these days so it's just as well.
Re: Xbox Almost Flashed Its Cash At Warner Bros, Sees Nintendo As the Holy Grail
I have very little nice to say about Nintendo but I can't imagine a world without it. Crazy to think of them as another arm of MS. Could still happen if we're being real. No company is safe apparently.
Sobering is about the size of it.
Re: PS5 Deep Earth Collection Dazzles with New DualSense, Cover Plate Colours
Blue and red. Wow. Who is the creative team behind these absolute marvels?
Re: Reminder: Last Chance to Stack PS Plus Subscriptions Before Price Rise
@iDreamwalker pretty sure it was $49.99 10 years ago. And found substantially cheaper during sales.
Re: PS Plus Price Hike Drives Sony Share Prices Up Dramatically
@ArmoredMore but there's still only so many games to choose from and we know they aren't going the gamepass day and date route so idk, I predict it'll be the same slightly dated games that's it's been for a minute now. which, y'know all in all seemed fine with me especially when Extra came along but this thing where essential goes up every couple years... it's not for me. But that's pretty much every subscription these days which is why I generally opt out.
Again though, fwiw, Extra was probably undervalued from the jump and it seems reasonable to rectify that but bumping the bottom tier service up 20 bucks a year? Nah they're wrong for that. Just my humble opinion.
Re: PS Plus Price Hike Drives Sony Share Prices Up Dramatically
@ArmoredMore my enjoyment one year to the next is, more often than not, complete chance. but I guess if you end up liking the upcoming offerings more and want to chalk it up to the price hike, that's cool. still, I think most folks aren't going to see a noticable difference, as I suspect there's only so many games $6.66 will get you that 5 dollars couldn't.
Re: PS Plus Price Hike Drives Sony Share Prices Up Dramatically
@ArmoredMore gonna be pretty hard to quantify a difference in quality for a service like this though honestly. Not to mention most folks, much to my chagrin, argue that these "free games" we get through essential aren't really what we're paying for so I'm not sure why the price would need to increase to offer better titles. Kinda proves they aren't free once and for all though so at least there's that.
Extra is an entirely different beast though and a price hike there seems far less an issue imo. Premium, I don't even know why anyone would pay any amount for that but that's just me.
Re: PS Plus Price Hike Drives Sony Share Prices Up Dramatically
@ArmoredMore monthly is a pretty fair way to break it down. but it's also fair to take into account the percentage of increase (which is a tad high) along with the justification for the increase (which seems to be non-existent).
I don't think it's a matter of 3 more dollars putting anyone into bankruptcy.
Re: PS Plus Price Hike Drives Sony Share Prices Up Dramatically
@Jacko11 I think you misunderstand, but it's all good.
Re: PS Plus Price Hike Drives Sony Share Prices Up Dramatically
@Jacko11 idk, I'm pretty sure if there were games that should be $100, they'd be $100. No one's losing money at the current price point.
It also shouldn't go unnoticed that there are plenty of editions of games that go for well over $100 now. It's pretty unremarkable. So where they feel we should, we're paying what you feel we should be paying.
Re: Looks Like You Should Expect More Astro Bot on PS5
If it's not a VR Astrobot game I might just sell my headset. I love Beat Saber, and GT7 is super fun when I feel like dragging out the steering wheel, but I don't know if I can justify the cost of all this tech for two games.
Re: PlayStation Portal Is Sony's PS5 Remote Play Handheld, Priced at $200 / £200
@LazyLombax agreed.