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This would only relate to games currently in development and for which Sony have some type of (I presume) exclusivity deal or other marketing contract. Beyond that I fully expect games to be exclusive.

@elvisfan1
Don’t get me started on bloody DFS. 6 months I was waiting, lol.

Erm…Diablo is a potential blow for me I guess. Although they screwed up the remake. A new spyro to potentially miss, but doubt they’d release a platformer in the same vein anyway.
Nothing bothers me in terms of the games, but the consolidation of publishers under one platform holder is terrible for the industry, so hopefully this is it now. The next 70billion I hope they spend creating rather than just gating products away from other platforms and players.

We need to stop referring to these as sales. These periods simply bring the same games down to the same prices as always. The brief periods of high pricing is likely because U.K. law stipulates a “sale” cannot be run continuously.
It’s so annoying checking out my wishlist and seeing the same games only drop to the same cost again and again.

Yes, I don’t really play their games.

For (largely my own) reference, these are the games I bought last year, along with price (because I couldn’t be bothered to delete):

Jan:
FF7 - £6.49
FF8 - £7.99
Yakuza Kiwami 2 - £9.59
Yakuza Remastered Collection (3,4,5) £24.99
Yakuza 0 - £3.99

March:
Tesla vs Lovecraft - £1.79
Art Pulse - 99p
Metropolis: Lux Obscura - £1.99
Jewel Fever 2 - 99p
Edna & Harvey: Harvey’s New Eyes - £1.59
Aer: Memories of Old - £1.91

April:
Judgment (PS4) - £4 (£15, £11 trade back)
It Takes Two - £10 (£32, £22 trade back)
Titan Quest - £6
Shenmue 3 - £8
EA Play one month - £3.99 (specifically to play A Way Out with the wife after we finished It Takes Two and wanted their other game).

May:
Fist of the North Star: Lost Paradise - £7.99
Brothers: A tale of Two Sons - £3.74
Yakuza 6 - £6 (£15, £9 trade back)

June:
Vasara Collection - £0.89
Tinker Racers - £0.39
Flatland: Prologue - £0.16
Savage Halloween- £0.39
Timber man Vs - £0.84
Elea - £0.99
Whipseey and the Lost Atlas - £0.99
Racket Fury (PSVR) - £FREE
PS+ 12m - £32.85
Stretch Arcade - £0.58
Asdivine Hearts - £4.79
Antiquia Lost - £4.79
Swordbreaker - £0.79
Vasilis - £0.79
Miles Morales (PS5) - £3 (£28, £25 trade back)

July:
Yakuza Like a Dragon - £4 (£18, £14 trade back)

Sept:
Kitaria Fables - £12.79
Cave Diver - 0.79
Immortals Fenix Rising - £20
Life is Strange True Colours - £12 (£42, £30 trade back)

Oct;
Life is Strange Wavelengths - £9.99
R&C: Rift Apart - £14 (£40, £26 trade back)

Nov: Lost Judgment - £38
1yr PS Plus - £33.32

Running Total = £309.48

I don’t think there are any Activision games on there. I’d be most annoyed if MS bought Sega. Even then though, it wouldn’t make me get an Xbox. In fact it would harden me against the platform / MS. I’d just largely become a PSVR2 gamer.

Still, 6% of a potential 100m gamers is a lot! This poll is quite interesting in that respect.

@mus422
Don’t think so. MS would love if Sony tried to get into that battle with them though.

Sony should keep in creating their own IPs and true innovations like VR.

Think of how many devs and new IPs MS could have created with 70 billion though! Instead they pay to gatekeeper content.

I’ll always support the company that innovates and brings out great new experiences like PSVR. Now, I’m in a position of being an oldish gamer with more money than time and who likes single player experiences, so I don’t speak for everyone, but the low cost Gamepass model doesn’t appeal to me, and such consolidation is obviously only going to be bad for the industry, and the sub model bad for single player AAA games, so…I don’t like the direction MS are taking us.

That said, I’m also too old to be a fanboy, I don’t “support” a company or platform, so if Sony move to second or third best seller I really don’t give a damn. Just be profitable enough to keep innovating and providing me with games I like.

@kyleforrester87
My chances keep going down. I’ve got too many games to play as it is, so I lose nothing by taking the moral high ground and refusing to support these business practices.

It’s OK, if we presume Gamepass subscribers pay 100 a year (lol), and knowing they have 25 million subs, that’s 2.5 billion? So they’ll make this 70billion back in no time! Plus the Bethesda money and all the other games…

MS going with the “drive the competition out before ramping up the price” strategy it seems.

And gullible consumers thinking it’s good for gaming because they temporarily save money on games which are going to fast turn into Microtransaction riddled sh*t

MS have always been Pay to Win, but they seem to want to go back to their old days of monopoly.

Truly a match made in hell lol. Sony, just keep giving me JRPGs and VR plus your first party games. Games like CoD, WoW…don’t go down that road.

He doesn’t expect this for a moment because he knows the quality of games Sony make would have to take a drastic dive before that made any kind of business sense.

So it’s sh*t then.
Really wish Sony would get a handle on mobile gaming. Nintendo have shown there is a market for gaming on the go for good games. Actual games. These aren’t games.
Is it really that hard? Just connect it to PSN. Same wallet. Same trophies. Smaller scale games.

I can’t imagine wanting to go back to PS3 games when I’ve still got a load of PS4 and several PS5 games I want to play, but for which I haven’t had the time. Too many games are being released these days, I’ll never catch up, and it gets to the point, a couple of gens down the line, when later unplayed games are inevitably going to be significant superior to old unplayed games.

Let me buy games without micro transactions and ensure I can earn trophies. That’s it. I’ll buy them.

What is everyone’s obsession with “day one” first or third party releases? Wouldn’t you rather, for the same price, 4 games that are a bit older rather than one on day of release? (games make the majority of their money at release so would be far more expensive for Sony to acquire day one).
I mean, if everyone is caught up on videogames then sure, it would avoid having bought a game previously that is added, but I simply cannot believe that the majority of adults are anywhere near having tried all the games they might possibly be interested in. The majority of us have jobs and partners right?

With Sony you never know.

My wish list:

PS5 games

NO day one releases (I have loads of games to play and no time; paying more for day one releases I won’t get to for months is worse than pointless)

A commitment to add classic PS1&2 games every month WITH trophy support

Streaming to my phone that works

No games being removed. Have them on there or don’t, I don’t have sufficient time to finish games on your schedule. I don’t mind waiting an extra year or two.

Discounts of at least 75% on ALL DLC for the included games: as well as the usual discounts of course.

I think that’s doable.

Honestly, there’s no great reason to get a PS5 yet. That great reason will come when PSVR2 is released and, perhaps, games are being made in UE5. For now I just use mine to play PS4 games mostly. Admittedly the reduced loading times are great but not necassary…

Would love to play some ps1 and ps2 games again, but I would really want trophy support. Supposedly they have worked on a way to add them in without dev involvement (although these would only be for hitting points through the game).

All consoles are supply constrained. This is basically just a “who manufactured more this month” list. Personally, with MSs money, I’m surprised they aren’t always winning (except I don’t think loss making hardware sales are highest on their priority list currently).

@Integrity
Was going to write pretty much everything you just did, thanks for saving me the trouble! Lol

The better the game is the longer it should be…played multiple JRPGs for close to 300hrs. Length doesn’t assist or hinder quality in and of itself.

Because the only thing worse than their micro transaction riddled travesties are mobile micro transaction riddled travesties.

40 games for under £34? Including some absolute bangers. How the hell can people complain!!!?
For me the best month was November.

Desperate? Not so much. Far more excited for Astro Bot Rescue Mission 2 than anything else in VR, and I’m not even 100% that exists yet.

I voted for it being a great year. Which it was. Then counted that I’d played just 3 of the games.

Thing is, there are around 5 others I want to play but just haven’t had the time.

Definitely worth the £34 I paid for it though. Who in their right mind could claim otherwise?

I see they retained the wonderful “jiggle” of previous PlayStation gens too. Hopefully that stays! Actually looks quite fun and I like the aesthetic.

I’m just sad that a great single player franchise has been destroyed due to the number of people willing to throw money at such an obviously manipulative service “game”

@Milktastrophe
Even Sony is calling it another platform. That’s because it hosts it’s own games that cannot be played without it. Of course I wouldn’t refer to it ever as a console because it isn’t. Just because you need something else to utilise it doesn’t mean it isn’t it’s own platform any more than a console isn’t it’s own platform due to requiring a TV.

@Jayslow
I would imagine it’s the games designed to work with the dualshock4 that are the problem.

Agreed that it shouldn’t be expected. I’m not sure how difficult it would be though. Ideas range from”monumentally difficult” to “the games just need to know the location and orientation details and it shouldn’t matter the hardware used to collect that”. Maybe they’d even release a DualShock shaped controller with inside out tracking specifically for old games (Nintendo do such things for old systems). I don’t have enough info, but it’s no dealbreaker for me. There are only a few games that are exclusive to PlayStation (meaning no PC version that could be ported to PSVR2 instead of using back compat) and the best of these are likely to get sequels (Astro Bot RM2!!!!)

Sony can’t compete with Microsoft when it comes to driving prices down to a level at which nobody else can afford to compete (before raising them again); as such, providing a unique experience is definitely the way to go.
VR is the true next gen.

@naruball
For me, it’s the fact that they are artificially manufacturing scarcity to drive a price up and make more profit. It’s like how companies hoard diamonds to control the market price.
Well, that’s their intent anyway, how successful they will be is yet to be seen.

@kingbreww
No, the “unintelligent” are those who pay through the nose for something that they could simply get for free if they didn’t support this business practice…but then of course they don’t actually care about the items they buy in most cases, they are actually just looking to speculate.

Perhaps I’m biased because, despite finishing and enjoying the story, I find stealth gameplay boring, but do we really need a remake of this? It’s still a new game.

@Alduin
I’d be in your position if I was still a kid, or retired, and had 10hrs a day to play games again. As it stands I have loads to play that is years old. The idea of my subscription fee going up in order that new games are provided which I won’t get around to for years…really, no thanks. Provide it as an option sure, but have a lower tier where newer games are not provided for 18 months or something please! Even if Sony buy new games for the service without increasing prices, that’s money that could go on something else, such as PSVR2 for example (which is far more exciting than saving a bit of money in my opinion).

@Milktastrophe
I think my comparison of different platforms (PS3 and PS4) is clearly more relevant when talking about, well, different platforms (PSVR and PSVR2).

Not buying PSVR2, which is massively different from PSVR1, if the former doesn’t allow you to play the games of the latter is incredibly strange.

I mean, it’s fair to say not day1, whereas you might get it day1 if it had a big back catalogue, but that’s as far as logic could stretch. Failing to see the logic in your Guitar Hero comparison. Unless you consider PSVR a peripheral to a Sony console, but given it has its own games you can’t play otherwise I think it’s fair to call it a platform in its own right.

Anyway, your choice, as strange as I find it 🤷‍♂️

As others have said, anything on PSVR2; Can we presume Astro Bot Rescue Mission 2 is a launch game?

@Uncharted2007
No, refresh rate is amongst the best in class. That’s not the issue. It’s the confusion your body feels when seeing motion but not feeling it. Hopefully the haptics will alleviate that issue. Research continues in that area.

@Bartig
Can’t you just, you know, keep it plugged in? Mine took me 20 minutes to set up several years ago. Since then I’ve just had to put the headset on and take it off…
Admittedly I have the newer one with 4K passthrough, but still…

@Deljo
Why sitting? You can stand and turn with a cable. I do. Inside out tracking means moving around will be no issue. Slight question about how they attach the cable (I’d go with a self retracting one on the very top of the headset), but wired headsets that people move around with are a thing. It’s easy to just get used to a cable touching you occasionally

@Milktastrophe
Strange. That’s like not having bought a PS4 because it wasn’t compatible with PS3…

@Galo81
You mean you are disappointed by the lead that connects the headset to the immensely powerful PS5? You would prefer to have a little processor in the headset like the quest? That would make it far far weaker and far more expensive (for those who already have / are getting the PS5 anyway)
Or are you suggesting the laggy, and so nausea inducing, wireless option?
Sorry, didn’t mean to sound condescending, but I couldn’t imagine anything worse that not being hardwired.

@lolwhatno
It’s the best I could have hoped for. Only annoyances some people will have is the probable lack of back compat and the price point, which I figure will be £450 with controllers. Nothing can dampen my enthusiasm though, PSVR had some of the finest software of any platform and Sony now has the hardware to match!
I’d also like to actually see if of course.

The great and only negative thing is that it’s a made for VR experience. Which will make it a better experience, but would have been a good sign for the future had Sony built the mainline sequel itself with VR in mind.

@sajoey
Phenomenal! Reading this whole getting ready for work didn’t allow me to watch the vid yet but that’s great news. The power of ps5 alongside foveated rendering will be insane, especially as Sony already have one of the best screens for reducing the screen door effect. Combined with this reducing blur and the higher res screens…wow!

Wow, what a poor way to reveal true next gen gaming to the masses. Sony is really bad at the hype thing!

I’m so excited for this, and those specs are insane. Price be damned, this is the type of tech needed to convince the masses of the necessity of VR.

Two slight concerns that won’t take away from it being a day1 purchase:

1) No mention of foveated rendering.
2) no mention on back compat with PSVR1

Now I’m going to believe for now that this is because those are software related, and this was a hardware reveal, just because I don’t want to lose my buzz. Foveated rendering would be the big miss if not included, but I honestly can’t imagine that it wouldn’t be. Back compat I can live without, but I know others would kick off.

Edit: foveated rendering confirmed. Thanks @sajoey

@LiamCroft @weR1youR2Podcast @MightyDemon82

Thanks guys, that’s great to know and puts the game on my list of games to get if I don’t feel like playing anything in my backlog

@LiamCroft
I’m always put off when I hear metroidvania, as I played too many games that were poorly signposted, leaving me to try to remember where specific openings where once the ability to open them was obtained. I have images of impenetrable mazes or, at the least, frustrating backtracking. Does that describe this game? I don’t have time to waste in mazes.

Generally start out with good intentions and read everything, but if it can’t keep my interest I’ll stop. Which is 99% of the time.