It’s a complete mess. I even quite like how the game plays, there’s just nothing to do. Thankfully mods on PC keep the series alive, even if most of them are paid.
Genuinely didn’t even cross my mind that they would use the footage to train a model. Why create NPCs when they can just feed unpaid fan videos into the slop machine to generate them in perpetuity?
Reminder that Quantic Dream is such a disaster to work for that they lost a libel case relating to toxic workplace conditions. Le Monde didn’t even reveal their anonymous source and they still won the case because QD were such an obviously atrocious company to work for.
RPCS3 has come on leaps and bounds the last couple years. It’s only little issues now like the players’ names not appearing on their shirts in the World Cup 2010 game and the like.
@LogicStrikesAgain We’ll see what comes of this class action against Sony for the lack of external marketplaces. If digital PS5 games can be sold in shops other than the PS Store then Sony will be in the same place on their own platform than they were on PC, they can’t get away with their pricing if they’re being consistently undercut by key sellers.
@KPS This move from Sony will need to be balanced out with them finding revenue from somewhere. So I’m calling it right now that PS Plus will see a major price hike before the end of the year. That’s why they’re making record profits, they’re squeezing their customers dry while lurching from calamity to calamity.
@Flaming_Kaiser You not wanting to play games on PC doesn’t mean it’s not relevant. With Sony limiting their revenue to only PS5 consoles (which they increased the price of) and PS5 software (which they increased the price of) then they are going to squeeze every single drop of money out of players in terms of MTX or jumping to £80 games sooner rather than later. PC isn’t even just desktops anymore, there’s a bunch of dedicated handhelds out there along with Steam Decks and this Steam console thing coming out. It’s a large market in which positive word of mouth can cause games to take off massively. Limiting games to the PS5 while increasing the price to actually buy a PS5 is a blatant attempt to cash in on the current economic situation and RAM crisis, by trying to FOMO their way to sell 6 year old consoles at a premium price.
@Flaming_Kaiser Those same games have leapt up to £70 if they even release at all, or are live service dreck. Consoles are generally subsidised and traditional sales of games aren’t generating the income that Sony wants to see, which is why we’re seeing price increases across the board and why they’re investing in live service games as Sony wants profits to last across a game’s lifespan instead of being one purchase. PC releases create another revenue stream that can help justify single-player games with no microtransactions and getting rid of them is a massive sign that this live-service push isn’t going away.
Any celebration of this is absurd when you look at the recent price increases. And the fact that digital games can only be bought on the PS Store. So they’re effectively making it more difficult to play their games which is absolutely not the way to cultivate a player base. The only reason I can think for people to celebrate these games not being ported to PC is an excuse to justify their purchase of a PS5/PS5 Pro amidst overwhelming evidence that this is the lowest point Sony have been in since the PS3’s launch.
@Balaam_ 30FPS is a bit of an issue for me with racing games. I’ve been binging the NFS games for a while now and the difference between the 30FPS and 60FPS games is massive. It’s super sluggish especially at high speed.
@Hyena_socks You’ve nailed it. The application of genAI in creative fields is ghoulish erosion of human creativity to drive costs down and increase revenue at the expense of quality. And honestly use of it within the mundane aspects of development is basically a sideways hop from already existing procedural generation. Those who understand genAI understand that the limits are closer than they appear and that the benefits aren’t as much of a leap as the suits think they are. The only difference is that these models were pushed onto the public to create false hype to drive share prices. And plenty of the data was falsified, the Meta smart glasses were sending telemetry data to African data centres where underpaid employees were watching footage of the users on the toilet. Genuinely.
Hmm. The first game was one of the first PS5 games I played and I remember it being a bit bland. I honestly couldn’t tell you much about it, there were caves and there were forest bits. None of the bosses are coming to mind.
@Quintumply Not worth a mention that Tomb Raider 1-3 just got completely annihilated in an update by external devs? And that anybody playing these might want to wait for fixes?
@Athrum I always find that criticism of Disco Elysium completely unfounded. I think that people get an impression that it is ‘up its own arse’ because they’re not used to interesting writing in games, or any sort of message or provocation. About 99.9% of games’ stories are sh*t in the grand scheme of things. Some are merely there to facilitate the gameplay and that’s fair enough, and then you get the lesser-quality pastiches of film tropes like TLOU or Ghost of Tsushima. Even something like Red Dead Redemption 2, which I personally think is a brilliant game and story, still doesn’t stand out compared to other media from a narrative standpoint and mostly benefits from sheer length that can be almost directly compared to books like Les Miserables or War and Peace.
We’ve had essentially 50 years of games trying to catch up to movies or real life in terms of fidelity and now that we’re here, devs are struggling to use this medium to say anything interesting. The big games that stand out from a narrative standpoint, Metal Gear Solid, NieR Automata, Disco Elysium, Spec Ops The Line, Silent Hill 2 etc, all understand that games are a completely different experience from movies and TV and therefore the narrative uses interactivity as another tool. Hacks like David Cage or Neil Druckmann want to make movies while their teams build a game around it which is just fundamentally not interesting.
Gamers are so used to substandard writing that they see anything that tries something meaningful as somehow pretentious. And I suppose it is pretentious in that it’s trying to bring a more mature viewpoint into the industry when the actual consumers expect easily digestible fluff. There’s both a literary crisis and a wave of reverse snobbery out there just now, a weird attempt to boast about expecting nothing from media and ‘just enjoying things’ but that’s how we end up with incurious children that never want to be challenged. Media should raise questions and cause us to think things and Disco Elysium does that, and I could count on one hand the number of times a game has actually made me reflect on what it is saying.
Silver Surfer is evil but the soundtrack slaps. X-Men arcade alone is worth this entire collection alone though. Would be super cool to see a Simpsons collection next, with the arcade game alongside the various tie-ins on console like Virtual Bart.
@McDosy Inflation doesn’t apply to components that are essentially out of date the second they hit the market. Every other generation has seen consistent price drops because the components have decreased in price naturally as the industry moves forwards. This is the complete opposite of what you are saying, it’s abnormal that these consoles are going up in price.
@tomassi Classic Patch for FIFA 14 and 16 is about as close as we can get for breadth, there are so many tournaments included in that all the way back to accurate 1800s teams, it’s an impressive mod. They even replace the cameramen with old fashioned guys with vintage cameras. PES 99 is also a cool mod and that includes France 98 with all the old broadcast bits and pieces. Mods are amazing but an actual game from 2K as authentic as the eras stuff would be great.
I’m playing Assassin’s Creed Rogue at the moment for the platinum. It was made by a side studio in 8 months using a mixture of reused assets and interesting new mechanics and it’s genuinely a good game. I can’t imagine it cost all that much to make but other than being quite glitchy and not particularly innovative, it shows a way for studios to create smaller games that make a profit in between these stupidly expensive megaprojects. Sony have all these studios at their disposal and I’m sure they have extensive documentation from previous releases. Whack out a few smaller games using those engines and the teams that have been condemned to live service hell. A small scale Infamous or Killzone to gauge support for a full sequel perhaps.
@OrbiterNightfall In what world is it a conspiracy that Infantino licks Trump’s orange taint? He invented a fake peace prize literally just to appease him!
@OrbiterNightfall Why would the FBI investigate a guy that’s blatantly in cahoots with Trump? Blatter was corrupt but him not being in the pocket of the US is what brought him down. Infantino will absolutely be remembered in a decade’s time as even worse than Blatter.
@OrbiterNightfall Infantino invented an entire fake prize to give to Trump. And covered up migrant worker deaths in Qatar. And awarded the 2034 World Cup to Saudi Arabia almost exactly the same time as they promised to bankroll the Club World Cup.
@OrbiterNightfall Soulless slop designed by committee. That bald corrupt fraud is somehow more detestable than Blatter ever was. At least he genuinely loved football, Infantino sees it as a route to power and nothing more.
I thought it was sort of bad to be honest. A decent idea for the first hour and then you realise that’s just the full game. Some of the worst open world art direction I’ve seen too, felt like an Unreal Engine demo.
F**king hell, this has Infantino written all over it. Bitmojis of actually good footballers mixed with utter nonsense in an appeal to ‘the kids’ that they don’t have any idea about. Please just give 2K the World Cup license and let them give it the Eras treatment.
@KingPev Wrong. They’re in business to make more money than last year. Which is where the issue lies. There is never a point that is ‘good enough’ so they push and push and then it all falls apart.
@INeedGoodGraphics By this point in the 3DS’ lifespan you could get a 2DS for like £70 with a game included. But then everything is expensive these days and has been for a few years now.
It’s about making sure that the shareholders get more returns each year. If revenue is down then they have to cut outgoings by even more, god forbid shareholders make a bit less this year.
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Re: 'You Destroyed the Best Game Mode': Konami Cocks Up Master League's Return to eFootball on PS5, PS4
It’s a complete mess. I even quite like how the game plays, there’s just nothing to do. Thankfully mods on PC keep the series alive, even if most of them are paid.
Re: 'Who on Earth Would Want This?': Almost 90% of PS5 Fans Not Interested in New 'Playerbase' Program
@Dogbreath Think your name should be Dogwhistle instead.
Re: 'Who on Earth Would Want This?': Almost 90% of PS5 Fans Not Interested in New 'Playerbase' Program
Genuinely didn’t even cross my mind that they would use the footage to train a model. Why create NPCs when they can just feed unpaid fan videos into the slop machine to generate them in perpetuity?
Re: 007 First Light Is Getting Its Own Limited Edition DualSense PS5 Controller
@get2sammyb GoldenEye Wii came with a gold Classic Controller too which was cool.
Re: 007 First Light Is Getting Its Own Limited Edition DualSense PS5 Controller
I honestly don’t think it needs the lines and the barrel. It’s a bit overdesigned. Just that gold finish and the 007 logo would be perfect.
Re: Announced Nearly Half a Decade Ago, Quantic Dream's Star Wars Game Reportedly Still 'Years Off'
Reminder that Quantic Dream is such a disaster to work for that they lost a libel case relating to toxic workplace conditions. Le Monde didn’t even reveal their anonymous source and they still won the case because QD were such an obviously atrocious company to work for.
Re: PlayStation to Start Putting Fans into PS5 Games with New Playerbase Program
This is the most 2002 thing ever.
Re: 'I Was Convinced It Could Never Be Done': Dev Praises 'Breakthrough' in PS3 Emulation
RPCS3 has come on leaps and bounds the last couple years. It’s only little issues now like the players’ names not appearing on their shirts in the World Cup 2010 game and the like.
Re: Remember Those PC Icons on PS5? Sony Removed Them
@LogicStrikesAgain We’ll see what comes of this class action against Sony for the lack of external marketplaces. If digital PS5 games can be sold in shops other than the PS Store then Sony will be in the same place on their own platform than they were on PC, they can’t get away with their pricing if they’re being consistently undercut by key sellers.
Re: Remember Those PC Icons on PS5? Sony Removed Them
@KPS This move from Sony will need to be balanced out with them finding revenue from somewhere. So I’m calling it right now that PS Plus will see a major price hike before the end of the year. That’s why they’re making record profits, they’re squeezing their customers dry while lurching from calamity to calamity.
Re: Remember Those PC Icons on PS5? Sony Removed Them
@Flaming_Kaiser You not wanting to play games on PC doesn’t mean it’s not relevant. With Sony limiting their revenue to only PS5 consoles (which they increased the price of) and PS5 software (which they increased the price of) then they are going to squeeze every single drop of money out of players in terms of MTX or jumping to £80 games sooner rather than later. PC isn’t even just desktops anymore, there’s a bunch of dedicated handhelds out there along with Steam Decks and this Steam console thing coming out. It’s a large market in which positive word of mouth can cause games to take off massively. Limiting games to the PS5 while increasing the price to actually buy a PS5 is a blatant attempt to cash in on the current economic situation and RAM crisis, by trying to FOMO their way to sell 6 year old consoles at a premium price.
Re: Remember Those PC Icons on PS5? Sony Removed Them
@Flaming_Kaiser Those same games have leapt up to £70 if they even release at all, or are live service dreck. Consoles are generally subsidised and traditional sales of games aren’t generating the income that Sony wants to see, which is why we’re seeing price increases across the board and why they’re investing in live service games as Sony wants profits to last across a game’s lifespan instead of being one purchase. PC releases create another revenue stream that can help justify single-player games with no microtransactions and getting rid of them is a massive sign that this live-service push isn’t going away.
Re: Remember Those PC Icons on PS5? Sony Removed Them
Any celebration of this is absurd when you look at the recent price increases. And the fact that digital games can only be bought on the PS Store. So they’re effectively making it more difficult to play their games which is absolutely not the way to cultivate a player base. The only reason I can think for people to celebrate these games not being ported to PC is an excuse to justify their purchase of a PS5/PS5 Pro amidst overwhelming evidence that this is the lowest point Sony have been in since the PS3’s launch.
Re: Everyone's Talking About DriveClub Again, PS4's Underappreciated Racer
@Balaam_ 30FPS is a bit of an issue for me with racing games. I’ve been binging the NFS games for a while now and the difference between the 30FPS and 60FPS games is massive. It’s super sluggish especially at high speed.
Re: Everyone's Talking About DriveClub Again, PS4's Underappreciated Racer
I never did play this but this exact tweet does the rounds every so often. Your standard engagement farming.
Re: For All the Talk About Crimson Desert, Nothing Beats MLB The Show on the US PS5 Chart
I’ve heard it’s not even one of the better games in the series! Nice to see the Red Sox are winning tonight though, they’ve been absolutely dire.
Re: 'They Realised They Let Me Go Prematurely': God of War's OG Kratos Talks About Reprising His Role
Both are good. I think Judge had better material to work with though.
Re: Following CEO's AI Doubts, Take-Two's AI Team Is Shrinking
@Hyena_socks You’ve nailed it. The application of genAI in creative fields is ghoulish erosion of human creativity to drive costs down and increase revenue at the expense of quality. And honestly use of it within the mundane aspects of development is basically a sideways hop from already existing procedural generation. Those who understand genAI understand that the limits are closer than they appear and that the benefits aren’t as much of a leap as the suits think they are. The only difference is that these models were pushed onto the public to create false hype to drive share prices. And plenty of the data was falsified, the Meta smart glasses were sending telemetry data to African data centres where underpaid employees were watching footage of the users on the toilet. Genuinely.
Re: We Hope You're Not Sick of Soulslikes, Because Mortal Shell 2 Just Got a Massive Gameplay Trailer
Hmm. The first game was one of the first PS5 games I played and I remember it being a bit bland. I honestly couldn’t tell you much about it, there were caves and there were forest bits. None of the bosses are coming to mind.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for April 2026 Announced
@Jackthelad93 And yet there’s still enough issues that there’s apparently a patch 2 coming at some point.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for April 2026 Announced
@Quintumply Not worth a mention that Tomb Raider 1-3 just got completely annihilated in an update by external devs? And that anybody playing these might want to wait for fixes?
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for April 2026 Announced
@Balaam_ Erizzlerhead
Re: Bring Down a Ring of Gold Diggers in PS5, PS4's Most Controversial Game Yet
Let’s make a game about Chinese incels with small *****. It’s not a stereotype or wish fulfilment because some exist. That’s how this works right?
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for April 2026 Announced
Just in time for TR1-3 to be completely unplayable. Well done lads.
Re: Remember When Call of Duty Said Its New Skins Would Be Sensible? Well, Here's Dave Chappelle
@Supern0va At least we’d get to kill him.
Re: Disco Elysium's Controversial Successor Commits to 2026 Release on PS5
@Athrum I always find that criticism of Disco Elysium completely unfounded. I think that people get an impression that it is ‘up its own arse’ because they’re not used to interesting writing in games, or any sort of message or provocation. About 99.9% of games’ stories are sh*t in the grand scheme of things. Some are merely there to facilitate the gameplay and that’s fair enough, and then you get the lesser-quality pastiches of film tropes like TLOU or Ghost of Tsushima. Even something like Red Dead Redemption 2, which I personally think is a brilliant game and story, still doesn’t stand out compared to other media from a narrative standpoint and mostly benefits from sheer length that can be almost directly compared to books like Les Miserables or War and Peace.
We’ve had essentially 50 years of games trying to catch up to movies or real life in terms of fidelity and now that we’re here, devs are struggling to use this medium to say anything interesting. The big games that stand out from a narrative standpoint, Metal Gear Solid, NieR Automata, Disco Elysium, Spec Ops The Line, Silent Hill 2 etc, all understand that games are a completely different experience from movies and TV and therefore the narrative uses interactivity as another tool. Hacks like David Cage or Neil Druckmann want to make movies while their teams build a game around it which is just fundamentally not interesting.
Gamers are so used to substandard writing that they see anything that tries something meaningful as somehow pretentious. And I suppose it is pretentious in that it’s trying to bring a more mature viewpoint into the industry when the actual consumers expect easily digestible fluff. There’s both a literary crisis and a wave of reverse snobbery out there just now, a weird attempt to boast about expecting nothing from media and ‘just enjoying things’ but that’s how we end up with incurious children that never want to be challenged. Media should raise questions and cause us to think things and Disco Elysium does that, and I could count on one hand the number of times a game has actually made me reflect on what it is saying.
Re: Forgotten PSP Strategy Spin-Off Gets Expanded PS5, PS4 Revival This June
This is super cool, I really liked the first game and didn’t realise there was a Japan exclusive sequel.
Re: Disco Elysium's Controversial Successor Commits to 2026 Release on PS5
Re: Marvel MaXimum Collection (PS5) - A Retro Comic Book Beat-'Em-Up Bonanza
Silver Surfer is evil but the soundtrack slaps. X-Men arcade alone is worth this entire collection alone though. Would be super cool to see a Simpsons collection next, with the arcade game alongside the various tie-ins on console like Virtual Bart.
Re: 'It's All a Bit Depressing': Just 13% Think PS5 Is Worth Its New Price
@McDosy Inflation doesn’t apply to components that are essentially out of date the second they hit the market. Every other generation has seen consistent price drops because the components have decreased in price naturally as the industry moves forwards. This is the complete opposite of what you are saying, it’s abnormal that these consoles are going up in price.
Re: As the Series Turns 24, Fans Are Asked to Wait One More Year for a Kingdom Hearts 4 Update
3 was not worth the wait so, uh, I guess this won’t be either. And at least between 2 and 3 we still had games coming out.
Re: 'It's All a Bit Depressing': Just 13% Think PS5 Is Worth Its New Price
@Sergo The console is worth more than it was 6 years ago. That’s not normal. It’s a really really bad sign.
Re: One Player Just Unlocked PlayStation's Impossible Platinum Trophy
Well that’s insane. I played a bit of it on Vita and it was ludicrously difficult just on normal speed
Re: The Best Theme Park Sim Returns with RollerCoaster Tycoon Classic, Out Now on PS5
THE RIDE NEVER ENDS
Re: Sony Announces Gigantic PS5 Price Increases, Effective from April 2026
The cap on a disastrous gen. F**k everyone involved.
Re: New Free FIFA Game Pits Greek God Zeus Against Argentinian Icon Diego Maradona, Will Come to PS5
@tomassi Classic Patch for FIFA 14 and 16 is about as close as we can get for breadth, there are so many tournaments included in that all the way back to accurate 1800s teams, it’s an impressive mod. They even replace the cameramen with old fashioned guys with vintage cameras. PES 99 is also a cool mod and that includes France 98 with all the old broadcast bits and pieces. Mods are amazing but an actual game from 2K as authentic as the eras stuff would be great.
Re: Fans of Old Dreamcast Games Are Going to Go Gaga for This Strange Fishing Sim
Oh wow this game getting coverage on here is cool. I’ve been following it’s development on Twitter for ages now.
Re: 'This Is Unsustainable Madness': Modern Video Game Budgets Are Out of Control
I’m playing Assassin’s Creed Rogue at the moment for the platinum. It was made by a side studio in 8 months using a mixture of reused assets and interesting new mechanics and it’s genuinely a good game. I can’t imagine it cost all that much to make but other than being quite glitchy and not particularly innovative, it shows a way for studios to create smaller games that make a profit in between these stupidly expensive megaprojects. Sony have all these studios at their disposal and I’m sure they have extensive documentation from previous releases. Whack out a few smaller games using those engines and the teams that have been condemned to live service hell. A small scale Infamous or Killzone to gauge support for a full sequel perhaps.
Re: New Free FIFA Game Pits Greek God Zeus Against Argentinian Icon Diego Maradona, Will Come to PS5
@OrbiterNightfall In what world is it a conspiracy that Infantino licks Trump’s orange taint? He invented a fake peace prize literally just to appease him!
Re: New Free FIFA Game Pits Greek God Zeus Against Argentinian Icon Diego Maradona, Will Come to PS5
@OrbiterNightfall Why would the FBI investigate a guy that’s blatantly in cahoots with Trump? Blatter was corrupt but him not being in the pocket of the US is what brought him down. Infantino will absolutely be remembered in a decade’s time as even worse than Blatter.
Re: New Free FIFA Game Pits Greek God Zeus Against Argentinian Icon Diego Maradona, Will Come to PS5
@OrbiterNightfall Infantino invented an entire fake prize to give to Trump. And covered up migrant worker deaths in Qatar. And awarded the 2034 World Cup to Saudi Arabia almost exactly the same time as they promised to bankroll the Club World Cup.
Re: New Free FIFA Game Pits Greek God Zeus Against Argentinian Icon Diego Maradona, Will Come to PS5
@OrbiterNightfall Soulless slop designed by committee. That bald corrupt fraud is somehow more detestable than Blatter ever was. At least he genuinely loved football, Infantino sees it as a route to power and nothing more.
Re: Looks Like SEGA Is Reheating PS5, PS4 Fan Favourite Sonic Frontiers in Definitive Edition
I thought it was sort of bad to be honest. A decent idea for the first hour and then you realise that’s just the full game. Some of the worst open world art direction I’ve seen too, felt like an Unreal Engine demo.
Re: New Free FIFA Game Pits Greek God Zeus Against Argentinian Icon Diego Maradona, Will Come to PS5
F**king hell, this has Infantino written all over it. Bitmojis of actually good footballers mixed with utter nonsense in an appeal to ‘the kids’ that they don’t have any idea about. Please just give 2K the World Cup license and let them give it the Eras treatment.
Re: 'I Have Done So Much for This Company': Axed Fortnite Dev Can't Believe He's Been Laid Off
@Scottyy There are no jobs. Genuinely. In basically every field.
Re: 'We're Spending Significantly More than We're Making': Fortnite Publisher Epic Games Lays Off Over 1,000 Staff
@KingPev Wrong. They’re in business to make more money than last year. Which is where the issue lies. There is never a point that is ‘good enough’ so they push and push and then it all falls apart.
Re: Sony's Disastrous First-Party Leadership Culminates in Yet Another Studio Closure
How can a shuttered studio give rise to another shuttered studio without a single game between the two? What level of mismanagement is that?
Re: Fortnite Is Ditching Several Modes Including Rocket Racing Amid Layoffs and Cost-Cutting
@RoomWithaMoose It’s just a PVP mode within Festival that’s shutting down, the main thing will still be around.
Re: 'We're Spending Significantly More than We're Making': Fortnite Publisher Epic Games Lays Off Over 1,000 Staff
@INeedGoodGraphics By this point in the 3DS’ lifespan you could get a 2DS for like £70 with a game included. But then everything is expensive these days and has been for a few years now.
Re: 'We're Spending Significantly More than We're Making': Fortnite Publisher Epic Games Lays Off Over 1,000 Staff
It’s about making sure that the shareholders get more returns each year. If revenue is down then they have to cut outgoings by even more, god forbid shareholders make a bit less this year.