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@REALAIS
I understand it can’t be just added in overnight. I’m just stating people want something different than the same old tdm/domination type of style of multiplayer experience. And extraction shooters take more of a team approach and it to me is more fulfilling.

Infinity Ward is coming with a DMZ 2.0 supposedly next year with the release of the new Call of Duty. If it’s a standalone mode that you would had to pay for, I would play that.

I may be beating a dead horse with this one.. but I would much more prefer a DMZ style objective based game. Open world sandbox style with completing personal missions and killing other squads and extracting with loot that you accumulated. It’s intense and firefights were always fun.
If Battlefield would offer this mode and its done right. It would be amazing. I have many friends who agree.

@TheArt
What held it back at launch was that Cell Processor was difficult to develop for. That and you had 512mb that was shared with the gpu and cpu. Once they had a better dev tools and were actually trying to help the devs, it got better..
But definitely glad that they went to a more develop friendly approach with the PS4 and PS5.

The 360 was popular but that 33% failure rate was more like 60-70%.. I remember countless of people bought one 3 times or even more. So you had that account for a lot of sales.
On the contrary they did have a lot of good games and made Sony reevaluate their strategy.

Sure miss those days.. I hold the PS3 memories dearly.

It’s a good game. I still play it. Live Service are typically on all platforms anyways, glad they get to play.

Every generation towards the end I was ready for the next gen but because this gen has been so different. Maybe I’ll hold my judgement until the reveal. But i just want more first party titles at a faster dev cycle.
I’ve read Kojima would like AI to assist in the repetition process of making games. If it can help with dev time I’m all for it.

There is so many risk today.. I wish things were like in the PS2 era and PS3 era where they made games from their own artistic abilities and took risk. But nowadays it has to hit every note or it’s tanked on metacritic and people won’t buy it.
I love the games now but I miss the games that were fun but not AAA.

A couple years ago they were talking about making AA budget games that were to fill in the space between AAA games.
Now a game is about 40 hours long and it’s all good. But taking 5 years to do it is where it’s tiresome to wait as a gamer.

Based on the multiplayer I’d give it an 8.. i really don’t know what they did that was so revolutionary to be honest. But they did go back to what I remember it was. And that made me happy.
When I played DMZ on Call of Duty MW 2 (2022) it was to me the best experience I had in a long time. Mission based extraction shooters with a squad and no respawn. That makes the game much more thrilling fighting off other squads and finishing missions in a timely manner.
I’m kind of tired of the same copy and paste. Yea it’s fun but it’s not something to keep me entertained for days on in.

Looking at the map there is a lot of area that is not explored. I was assuming that they were using that for DLC story.
Even though I agree the main story was complete after finishing the game. I still like to play more.
Ghost of Tsushima had Iki Island and it played into the story if you played the Director’s Cut.

So I don’t know what direction they would take but I would gladly play it .

I had a feeling that this would happen. I’m tying to be optimistic for the 2026 Infinity Ward’s Call of Duty. Because it’s rumored for a new DMZ 2.0 not the mobile mess they are showing.
2022 Call of Duty MW2 was by far my favorite entry.

That being said.. I had a feeling they would lose the creative people at Call of Duty after the buyout looking at Microsoft’s track record.
Not being a fan of the guy, but you had Bob Kotick told Microsoft that they weren’t a “creative company” and they shouldn’t be in gaming. But he was going to get a big incentive for the sale and he was out the door anyways. So he obviously didn’t care.
They are losing a long time veteran from their Halo Studios and it looked to be a bitter departure. Not including the creative devs that departed after that latest cancellation of games and major layoff hit.

Like I stated. I will wait for official sales data.. All we’ve seen was the sales data from Uk and Japan.. when the whole thing comes out then we can make a opinion.. I’m willing to be corrected but I think the game is a profound hit. Great game.. I bought the physical copy because I collect memorial entries. I don’t buy every game physical. Like BF6 I downloaded it.

When Sony releases the physical and digital attachment rate then call it a flop or whatever. It’s not in my book.

An Xbox logo handheld made by a third party company.
Watching the video. Paying $1000 for a 2 year old game to look like that. Naw I’ll pass. There isn’t anything close about it.
I understand it’s a handheld but that is reaching to say the least.

I’ve been waiting to see official sales data to put the naysayers to rest. I bought a physical copy because I like to have a collection of certain games. But I know the digital sales are obviously more nowadays. So having official sales figures would be nice to see.
The game is phenomenal, even if I may like Ghost of Tsushima story better and choosing alternate endings. I enjoyed Ghost of Yotei. It was a breath of fresh air. I enjoyed the story that was bent on revenge then at the end you realize she could start to see past her vengeance.

But also SpiderMan 3 was roughly $315 million.. Ghost of Tsushima was $60 million. So I see Ghost of Yotei I think is around $70 million. That is a feat compared to most triple A titles.

It just doesn’t seem like it should be already. Every generation I was ready for the next one. But this gen hasn’t even reached its peak.
Haven’t played a new Naughty Dog game although one is coming, just taking 5 years to release. No word from Bend Studios, only one game from Santa Monica.. just seems game production is so slow. And I know the reasoning..
I’ll get a PS6 but it’s exhausting to spend a lot of
money to get fewer and fewer first party games.

I’m playing the game and I find myself more frustrated than enthused. I’m not trying to be a complainer but the shotgun at ranges from 40 yards out to up close is automatically one shot kill.. I can’t stand responding and being shot as soon as I respond in. lol

Definitely played BF before and was decent with BF BC2 BF 3 and BF4..
I’ve even tried to look up videos to get my settings better.

I’m not trying be a baby but boy it’s frustrating the games I’ve been playing.

I really liked the game. I finished the story with a lot of exploration and side quest finished. I would give it a 9.5 .. very beautiful game and is an upgrade over the first title in terms of fidelity and draw distance. But even though I really enjoyed the story.. Ghost of Tsushima to me is still a better story. Ghost of Tsushima was a 10 in my book. I’m sure if I go back I would prefer Yotei’s improvements.. i will like to see the content they will add 6 months from now. The Legends and side story.

@MrStark

I won’t argue with the campaign.. Even Call of Duty: Ghost had a good campaign. Something that they rarely dropped the ball on.. up until the recently rushed MW3.
I bought BF6 for the multiplayer obviously, and I’m sure most buy Call of Duty for the same reason. Not saying that they should botch the campaign.

But what I’m holding out for is hopefully a new DMZ mode for the 2026 Call of Duty. It was a shame they stop supporting it because it had a very active community until it became infested with hackers.

@MrStark

That’s not how I remembered it. BF3 was game changing back on PS3. When you shot from a distance you had to articulate your shot. Had Large maps, flying aircraft. Something Call of Duty didn’t offer, and visuals were better on BF3.
The recent Call of Duty MW and MW2 were really good. (2022) MW2 being my favorite with DMZ.

What would help the PS6 or even now is finding away to get dev time drastically lower. Waiting 5-6 years for a game is kind of hard. Especially a single player game where you finish it and platinum it. The game is fun but what is there to do after that.
I beat Ghost of Yotei and I throughly enjoyed it. But what’s next? Housemarque game in March.
Wolverine late 2026. And this is actually a better year than we had in the last 2-3 years.
If they can find away to get the dev time to half the amount it takes would be an incredible feat. I know games have so much more than they did 15 years ago I got it. But I care more about games than I do for a PS6 at this point moment. I’m happy with my Pro.

I got a Switch 2 about a month ago, and I’m waiting for must have games .
I loved Super Smash Brothers. Been playing it since N64. SSB Ultimate didn’t release too far out from the launch of the Switch, but I’m reading now the next installment may not release until 2029. That’s crazy..
I initially bought the switch 2 for my daughter but I want there be some more games to play together. We beat SplitFiction on my PS5. So now I’ll just wait and see what’s coming out next for the Switch2.

If you guys remember. Sony did the same with Battlefield 3 on PS3. Microsoft was paying to have timed exclusive DLC on Call
of Duty on 360 for most of that gen. Then when BF3 came out it was such a big change from COD.

Then Sony went to Call of Duty during the PS4-PS5 gen and now we are here.

@awp69 Not exactly. And here is why I say that. Microsoft said they weren’t going to layoff people because of the buyout. It wasn’t just 200 or 500.. it was 2550. And I don’t know the number after the last one they had months ago with all the closures..
But yes Sony has laid off devs but they have tried to maintain as much as possible. I’m not trying to put Sony in a good light but their layoffs weren’t due to major buyouts that they couldn't maintain. When they bought Bungie they had an extra billion to help sustain their devs. And yes they eventually laid off and they closed firewalk studios. So yes, there are woes on throughout the game industry but not the level that Microsoft has caused.

The person was making a comment about what was said and what was done.

I mean Stevie Wonder seen this coming.. who didn’t? I was against it from the get go. Microsoft knows how to hire good lawyers and act innocent in front of a court room. But their track record is horrible. It’s a dumpster fire. They have 0 innovation but buy companies that already become established just to close them later.

Microsoft has not really done anything for gaming other than try to make a massive profit off GamePass and they are failing.
The last time Microsoft was actually pro consumer was during the OG XBox and 360. Even with the huge RROD scandal. They use to be competition for Sony, and I could honestly say if it wasn’t for Xbox Live, PSN wouldn’t be what it is today.
But closing in on 20 years since the 360 launch look at where we are. Microsoft just bought the majority market of publishers to “Spend Sony out of business” but only have caused a huge increase of massive layoffs and really hasn’t made nothing to show for it.

But with all the negative stuff, there is a silver lining. Microsoft is needing to be multi platform to be able to make profit. And it’s been great for themselves with releasing their games on PlayStation and eventually more for Nintendo.

Do I wish there were more variety of games? Absolutely.
But do I think that Sony just wants to push the same old storyline? No
AstroBot?
Horizon is not a revengeful game.
Sony recently said they are wanting to make or buy newer IP’s.
They understand the need for variety.
I do wish they would bring back older titles and they’ve mentioned that too.
Motorstorm would be a title I would like to see remade.
Warhawk.. Don’t get me started ..
Socom needed to be remade 5 years ago.
The problem we face now is that game development takes so long nowadays. It’s quite annoying, and only having 1-2 major titles a year.
I remember playing the PS3 era and games were being made 1-2, Naughty Dog released Uncharted 2 within 2 years from the first. Now games are releasing 5 years between each other. In example Ghost of Tsushima - Ghost of Yotei. That’s not saying anything bad about the developers because they did a phenomenal job.
I think it was like they employ a 100 person dev team and dev cost was similar to Ghost of Tsushima. Which was a whole lot less than Horizon Forbidden West and Spiderman 2

I think it will sell decent. I would get it if it went to the PS Catalog, but with it selling on Nintendo Switch 2 it should be ok in the Asian markets.
DW 3 was special back in the day.. many good memories. And the PSP spin off of DW was good too.
And everyone worrying about it being UE5… it is.

Who does he work for any more? I thought he was off in retirement. His opinions stop carrying weight since 2008-2009..

I’m surprised so many have a negative reaction to Ghost of Tsushima.. that was by far one of the best games in the last 10 years or more.
To some say it’s a copy of Assassins Creed didn’t really play the game.
It was a beautiful game and the Duels were epic.

Can’t wait to get my copy of Ghost of Yotei from PlayStation Direct, may get it earlier than release date they say 🤷🏼‍♂️ .

About the visuals, the same issue that was mentioned was in the first game. The faces get sometimes low detailed as in GoT, but the majority of the game was very very beautiful and well put together.
Death Stranding 2 is the only newer game that looks better fidelity wise at the moment. Gotta love the Decima Engine, I wish other first party devs were able to use it. Especially looking at Wolverine, as much as I love Insomniac their games don’t look as realistic as the above mentioned.
But Sucker Punch like other developers have their own engines and I like what they’ve done with it. It’s a gorgeous and fluid game.

This game looks good and Insomniac will always create a good story. I have no doubt this game will be great.
However, I do wish more games used the Decima Engine. The way Kojima used it in Death Stranding 2 it looked very realistic. Maybe it’s just me, I just liked a more realistic look. I think it will be great nonetheless.

Man.. the hours I use to put in this game.
Zhao Yun, Ma Chao, Guan Yu was a beast.
Shu was always my favorite and then Wu..
I remember playing this with my friend on our summer days. Boy, were the times good back then.

Here we go again with this. You know what they use to say during the PS3 and 350 days? Buy the console to play the games. That generation was the height of the “console war”. I know times have change now seeing Microsoft putting all their games now on PlayStation was quite the surprise.
But what does Sony have to gain by this? How many gamers have just an Xbox? No PC, no PS5? I understand the times we live in and how expensive it is being a single dad. But the ratio from PS5 to Xbox Series X/S is so one sided that it wouldn’t really make a big difference for them to port their single player games over to Xbox.
Just because Microsoft did because Xbox has been on life support for so many years doesn’t mean Sony has to follow suit. Sony releasing games for PC was to extend their reach to other markets. I don’t see the need for them to release their single player portfolio on Xbox.

@Godot25

Again you read way too much in this. They’re not at the beginning stage of becoming multiplatform.
You using MLB as a sign isn’t working.
Sony mentioned this a year or so ago, and said that exploring the PC market does not compete with their own market. Releasing games 2 years after they’ve been on PS5. According to Sony that’s their words.

And Sony paid money to keep games off Xbox?.. give me a break. It was called timed exclusivity. Something Xbox use to do this all time and just about everyone has done this to promote the brand. Sony actually assisted and helped pay for the development for Final Fantasy games on PS5 not just write a check to keep it off Xbox. Final Fantasy and PlayStation have long been established.
I used the sales data of FF16 to show they didn’t sale much on Xbox. It made a minimal dent in sales.
It’s laughable you put in quotation “nobody buys games on Xbox”
They wouldn’t be taking physical games of Xbox out of stores if people were even buying a portion of physical copies. You can argue about digital sales and I agree that it’s 50-50, 60-40 for PlayStation but you don’t see them taking PS5 games out of stores.
Because PlayStation owners typically buy their games and a big portion of Xbox owners use it for GamePass. That’s not just an opinion but it shows. Devs know this.
I’m not saying large scale games are going to skip Xbox. I just said some devs were skipping Xbox for market reasons. The latest one was from the Ori dev.

Helldivers 2 is a live service game. Having it available to more people is good. Sony took down the PSN login requirement to help have the game reach a further audience. And I’m actually glad the Xbox gamers to get to play.

But to say that this is a trend for Sony to be multiplatform only is very misleading.

@Godot25

MLB The Show was put on other consoles was mostly to keep the license.
Sony doesn’t own the DeathStrand IP anymore. Kojima does now.

Have you seen God Of War come to Xbox? Spider-Man?
For one it’s not going to be a huge increase in sales for Sony as you’re trying to make for them to release these games for Xbox.
You have more devs not prioritizing an Xbox launch because of the fact that a big chunk of them don’t buy games, they use it for Gamepass. Some devs are skipping Xbox for launch because PlayStation owners actually buy games.
It doesn’t make a lot of sense for them to go through all the trouble.

From your perspective Nintendo is multiplatform for having Pokémon Go on mobile.
Your acting if their whole catalog is coming to Xbox because Phil said “only 4 games” So that must mean Sony is going to release their whole arsenal because they releasing HellDivers2 coming to Xbox.
I’m just trying to say that’s not what this article is saying. And people are reading way too much into this.

@Wilforce
Glad you got a sense of humor lol

To each his own. And if Sony/GG wasn’t doing something right you wouldn’t have companies want to share their license. So I guess it’s a compliment in disguise.

We shall see what happens.

@Wilforce what’s your prescription on those glasses? They ain’t working. Just playing.

It looks very close alike. And you can see the intent since they were denied.
It’s not Tencent’s first copy and paste. They’ve done it before.

League of Kings, ripoff from their own subsidiary, League of Legends by Riot Games
Tarisland.. a WoW ripoff..
This game.. you see the trend?

@TrollOfWar

They released a Lego game that was a Horizon game for Nintendo.

They release a baseball game every year to multiple consoles.

What other games do they release that is multiplatform?
Bungie games were always going to be multiplatform.
Helldivers 2 is a live service game and it was a PS5/ PC game from the beginning.
It’s a bit reaching to say they are slowly releasing their games to become multiplatform just because a few have.

And I’m not saying PC is not competing with PlayStation, Sony is.
Microsoft put themselves in a position where they are releasinging day and date games.
I don’t see Sony releasing their “flagpole” games on Xbox.
I guess we are seeing what we really intend to only see.

@TrollOfWar

Don’t know where you got your sales data from for the Xbox. I can’t seem to find a mention of their sales. But I just know the game overall sold 19 million copies. Which is an incredible feat. Sony sold the IP back to Kojima and it’s a multiplatform game with exclusivity timed on PlayStation. And how long has it been since its initial release? Around 2019?

Square Enix always have high standards for their games for sales success. And FF16 may not have appealed to some fans of the series but it was still a good game. I was just using it as a reference.

Look I’m not against Xbox having HellDivers2 or others because it does give more people to play the game with..
I’m just trying to relay that I doubt Sony will be releasing their first party single player titles that on an Xbox platform like how Xbox is releasing theirs.. I just don’t see it really happening. I can be wrong and I’ll be the fist to admit it when I am. But PC market doesn’t interfere you console market according to Sony, so they can make that decision for games to come to PC as they have been doing.
Nintendo, I don’t see them as a direct competitor to Sony and again their fan base is little more younger than Sony’s and it can actually make sense to see some Sony games go to Nintendo.

But for Sony to go multiplatform, I don’t see that anytime in the next 10 years.

@TrollOfWar
HellDivers2 is a live service game and Mike other live service games they are multiplatform. It makes sense. Fortnite, Warzone, etc..
But to say that they are more concerned about money and shareholders and port their games on Xbox is not as likely. Sony made more money on the PS5 than all their other consoles combined or if not close. That’s with their first party games being released sporadically. They won’t disenfranchise theirselves for Xbox. How many FF16 copies were sold on Xbox after it was finally released? Barely made a dent in sales.. even though FinalFantasy will most likely not be exclusive anymore, only times if so.

Bungie is still going to make multiplatform games and some others.. but not to the scale that Xbox is currently doing to make everything an Xbox.

When Xbox released all their exclusives to PS5 they did it for the reason that PlayStation gamer based was substantially bigger than their own. And obviously the money is there.
Sony releasing Helldivers 2 on Xbox is not the same. A game that’s developed by a studio that is not owned by Sony just have publishing rights to the series is way different than what Xbox has done.
Sony doesn’t need Xbox like how Microsoft needs PlayStation now that it bought a huge portion of the market.
Nintendo is in its own territory. Even if Sony released let’s say Ratchet and Clank or other similar titles to the Switch 2 it still wouldn’t take away from the PlayStation. How many gamers buy the Switch for games other than Nintendo titles? Other than some exclusive titles coming out. Their market reaches different than PS5. They don’t typically compete head to head as Xbox and PlayStation do.

I don’t think Sony would..
Helldivers 2 is a multiplayer game that was not developed by Sony, only published.. yes they have the publishing rights but it’s not a first party game. I know PC gets first party games usually a year and half later or two. But HellDivers 2 was on PC and PS5 since launch and basically was a multiplat game. It broadening their reach doesn’t interfere with Sony selling consoles at all.

At least some good news for Xbox fans this week. Hopefully they’ll enjoy it as much as I have.

@EchoRange

Hnmm.. never heard of it.. I guess because it didn’t matter.

@rjejr

How does that imply to the game? You mean because it has two female main antagonist that people who criticizes “wokeness” will automatically criticize this? Not even..

I enjoyed the game with my daughter by the way.. we played It Takes Two and this. Was not disappointed a bit.

Games that need to comeback.

1. Socom
2. Warhawk
3. Resistance.

Helldivers 2 has filled a spot that Sony has been lacking for so so long. But they need more games that will help fill that gap.
Warhawk to me would be the perfect fit for that. Arcade shooter with intense dog fights and ground to air combat.
Resistance Fall of Man was one of the best multiplayer experiences for the first 3 years of the PS3 and very enjoyable.

Socom would be a great addition since there is only Call of Duty and Battlefield now. I know people complain about Extraction shooters but if they can make a mode where you have missions to complete or even like DMZ where you have personal mission to unlock certain features or guns.
Just imagine entering a match on a soc-r boat and completing a mission and having to call in an exfil. I would enjoy those three games.. I wouldn’t ask Sony for anything more this whole remaining gen.

Next Xbox going to be a PC? Or maybe just an All In One PC?

It looks like fun. I played the fire out of BF3 and 4.. I do wish they could make a mission based extraction mode.. what Call of Duty did with DMZ and what Delta Force is doing now.

@breakneck

Definitely not a fan of Bobby. But he’ll address the elephant in the room.

They make it sound so revolutionary… it’s like they can spin any bad thing and say it’s ground breaking. I mean I’m not complaining about the games being available but let’s not pretend that it’s because they want there games on PS5 they just won’t be able to survive without doing so.

Their Gamepass subscriptions haven’t took off like they needed it to be.. and now anything can be an Xbox is just another way of saying we are making having an Xbox useless.

Buying up publishers and not being innovative but just rinse cycle repeat. Bobby Kotick even said they shouldn’t be in the video game business because of the obvious reasons that had plagued them was they don’t really know to innovate or be different..

This is a studio that I wished Sony would have grabbed.. they may only make one game a generation but it was worth the wait. They seemed to have had a very positive relationship with Sony.

@nomither6

Lol Brawl was great.. I was stoked that Solid Snake was on it.
Melee was had me at the fast paced fighting, Ultimate is basically the best of melee and brawl. IMO