Ron22

Naughty Dog's website says owners of the PS4 game can upgrade for $10 USD, so people can relax. They won't relax, but... they can.

I'll be skipping the demo. No need to sell me on a game I already want. Bring on the 24th of March.

@Bentleyma

The Commentator options have a toggle called "Rally Support". If it's switched on, the commentator is always rooting for you to win and offers non-sarcastic words of encouragement if you lose. It certainly kept my salt at bay during my time with the Beta.

I don't understand the logistics of this.
What happens if you fall victim to a certain hazard or enemy without the battle pass?

Does it just cut to black?
Does it not animate?

Or are these animations limited to the new modes (Grounded and Horde) so it doesn't matter? If that's the case, most people save Grounded and Horde until after the Story, meaning they'll be more competent players meaning their odds of seeing death animations go down anyway.

I am confused.

@belmont

Same director doesn't necessarily mean same kind of game. The director of God of War 3 went on to direct Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order.

@LiamCroft
The "Chainsaw Guy" is named Dr. Salvador.

@itsfoz

This is what I was thinking. This game has had like 3 gameplay demos already. Surely, by now, consumers would know if this game is for them or not.

@get2sammyb
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty is about is about misinformation in the digital era.
Sons of the Patriots (not to be confused with Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots) isn't a subtitle in the Metal Gear franchise.

I got the Platinum for this game...and I think Master mode is too much. But the option is great for people that want it.

I'm looking forward to future updates.

If there's no new content, count me out. I've never been more let down by a video game than I was by this one. It's nigh unbelievable how much better the first two main entries are compared to this.

Horizon: Forbidden West

Sifu is in the runner-up.

@LN78

Played for 90 hours.
There was one bug where it was snowing indoors, which broke immersion, and another bug near the end where an A.I. companion ragdolled and I had to reload a save which cost ~3-4 minutes of play time.
Aside from that, flawless experience.

While this might mean the end of the "OMG/Mic Drop" moment (Keanu coming out for Cyberpunk, e.g), a (gameplay) trailer with an (accurate) release date is all I need.

@nessisonett

I got that sense from this video as well. My hope is that the person playing is terrible at the game. My fear is that they are not.

I'm relieved. I'm rooting for this game, but every time I see it, it looks like it needs more time, which is exactly what it's getting now.

Let's hope it is enough.

Now, I'm intrigued. I heard some people didn't like it, but I didn't know there was a controversy. Is the game worth playing or should I just go to Wikipedia and see what all the hubbub about the narrative is?

I'm not one for multiplayer, so I'd be down with a new Fight Night and/or eSports Boxing Club if they have a worthwhile Story Mode.

Fight Night Champion's Story Mode was nothing revolutionary, but I found it well worth the $20.00 or so USD I paid for it back in the day.

@Haruki_NLI

This is kind of what I was thinking. Sorry if I missed it, but has she shipped a game since she left Ubisoft? She's talented, but every time I see her name, she's either leaving a company or joining a company.

7/10

Beautiful Presentation. "Meh" Everything Else.
I played Spider-Man and Horizon: Zero Dawn twice each, got the Platinums, and played through the DLC.

With this game, I dropped it not long after the credits finished rolling and I'm skipping the DLC. It's good, but Sony's other titles rise above it by a good amount.

Objectively speaking: It was a great, well paced and produced show.
"Games that appeal to me personally" speaking: 1/10. Nothing shown was my cup of tea, but I still enjoyed watching it because of the excitement and how nicely it was put together.

Don't know how much of my meh feeling can be blamed on Geoff, really. Microsoft, Nintendo, and the other publishers are saving the big titles for their own presentations, naturally.

Mixed feelings.
Obviously very much looking forward to this game, but getting a PS5 has been nigh impossible since launch for a majority of people. After this, (even if we don't get a release date) many of the "there are no games on it yet" people will jump into the race and snagging one will be even less possible.

@Bri-Die
I want a Marvel Vs. Capcom...but without the Capcom. A "Marvel Super Heroes 2", if you will. Capcom's characters have always been the less compelling half of the Vs. Franchise, imo.

I already have a Platinum for this game and I still don't have a PS5. That being said, this is good news. I'm happy for everyone else.

@QueenOfHearts38 @AFCC
I'm not sure if TLOU2 is getting a patch. I wouldn't complain if it did, but I just assumed the game would be re-sold for the PS5 with the Multiplayer built in. Maybe, I'm just being cynical.

I'm confused. People disliked RE3 Remake because it changed things, but now people will applaud RE4 Remake because it will change things? But RE4 will now be handled by the RE2 Remake team so it will be good changes?

Whatever. I enjoyed both remakes, so the odds of me disliking this one were low to begin with. I'll be ready whenever this is finished.

This is what happens when you announce a game too early. If this had a 1-2 year cycle, there literally wouldn't be enough time to build up the amount of hype people had at the start of December 2020.

I'm on the fence. On one hand, this looks awesome. On the other hand, I've never been a huge fan of RPGs. Oblivion, Fallout 3, even Deus Ex couldn't hang on to my interests for more than 10 hours. My purchase may come down to how bored I am over Christmas holiday.

This makes sense and is safe. Also, this only appears to apply to the initial launch stock. You should be able to just walk into a store for the next batch/printing/shipment/whatever the term is; hopefully early December.

I'm waiting for a GoW:R or H:FW Bundle anyway.

I guess the real question is:
"Where was Ben Jordan when Insomniac was making the PS4 game?"

@Rob_230 @Stragen8
I agree and, in any other year, TLOU2 would be such a lock that the ceremony would be borderline superfluous, but I wouldn't be super surprised if they gave the trophy to Animal Crossing for being "the game we all needed in 2020".

Only kind of excited. I don't know who thought a Beat 'Em Up needed Grinding, but...it doesn't. If the game is still running nose first into a brick wall into you hit Level 8, I'll just sit back and be happy for those that wanted this.

I only had one in my ~40 hours of playtime and it only lasted about a second. Granted, it was enough to get me killed, but that's what checkpoints are for.

I haven't had a chance to pick it up yet. Life goes on, even during a pandemic. I'll pick it up soon, though. I'm getting excited.

On one hand, $70 isn't a tiny amount of money, but on the other hand, doesn't the price of almost everything else that costs money go up in price on an almost annual basis? Are we not lucky that games stayed $60 for as long as they have in the first place?

@USNveteranAZ

This one man single-handedly killed their mentor, their leader, a good deal of the rest of the group, leading to their disbanding and eliminated their one hope for permanently ending the pandemic. That's plenty of incentive even when you don't take into account that Abby has a very personal connection with the head surgeon.

@carlos82 I would've preferred more sections like that sprinkled throughout the game, but I'm kind of glad the game as a whole was linear. That section was exhausting (in a good way, for sure), but I fear it wouldn't have worked the entire time.

@OmegaStriver Abby doesn't know that. And if Ellie had tried to explain, I doubt Abby would've bought that someone as capable as Ellie had just demonstrated in that boss fight was unable to disable someone that's visible pregnant without killing them.

@roe Running through Santa Barbara as Ellie was my favorite part of the game. The game didn't care about that group either because it really doesn't matter. Ellie makes a note of that in her journal. Just another group killing people for misguided reasons. People suck. Ellie was about to be just another one of those people until she let Abby go on the beach.

@OmegaStriver Eye for an Eye. Abby had no way of knowing that Ellie didn't know that Mel was pregnant. Her jacket was open when Abby found her and anyone who isn't legally blind could tell Mel was pregnant. Abby was simply doing what she thought Ellie did.

@johncalmc I agree with this. When I realized Abby was going to be the second half (It dawned on me in the Home Depot-esque building when I saw a full skill tree), I was like "Oh, this is weird, but let's see where they are going with this", but it seems like others were "NO! Where's Ellie!?" and shut down for the entire half.

I'm on board with this game. I wouldn't cut anything, but I wonder if the game would be better if they re-arranged things. Like instead of Ellie's 3 days, then Abby's 3 days, perhaps they should've done Day 1: Ellie-Abby, Day 2: Ellie-Abby, etc.
Aside from that, this game is ace.

I love Naughty Dog games as much as the next guy, but am I the only one that thinks half of their trophies are just busy work and random dares that they made on a drunken night?

I'm looking forward to June 19th, but I fully anticipating facepalming when I check the Trophy List.

@roe @Ralizah

Did people always hate squeezing this much? I haven't heard of people knocking it until Cerny told them it was cool.

But like you said, this was impressive. Some people are disappointed since "it's just an engine, and not a real game", but it was a big announcement. People keep saying that the jump to next-gen won't be as big as the jump from PS3 to PS4, and they're probably right...but it's nice to see there will definitely be a difference.

I'm not watching any trailer. All this talk about spoilers and leaks...and you're recommending that I watch a trailer??

Scrolling to the bottom of the page to type this was a risk and a half.

The game has 3 endings and this DLC is based off the one I didn't see. A problem solved by Youtube and five spare minutes? Sure. But it's still annoying. This is why I prefer games with one ending, or at least, make it perfectly clear which ending is the "real" one.

In spite of what I just typed, I'm actually kind of excited for this. I like Mortal Kombat 11, but I don't like going online. A fighting game with Single Player DLC? Yes, please!

Not too hyped about this title to be honest. The best part about Watch Dogs 2 was Marcus, his crew, and their friendship. Not saying I was expecting him back, but when the my favorite part of the last game was the protagonist(s) and their development, and the selling point for this game is "NO PROTAGONIST", I'm firmly in the "Wait and See" camp.

@beavis64

Even with no Fast Travel (something Uncharted never had), an Uncharted game with no Boosting and no squeezing just because they don't need them to load anymore seems off. A crumbling, ancient civilization with nothing caved in and every ladder and staircase intact? This wouldn't ruin the game at all, obviously, but it would be a curious detail.
Also, Watch Dogs 2 is one of my favorite games. I wouldn't mind at all if that kind of Open World game has anytime Fast Travel.

@futureshark @beavis64

I thought Watch Dogs 2 let you fast travel from anywhere as soon as you got past the Intro Mission. I only used it when they asked me to drive across the entire map for a mission because Fast Traveling everywhere is the best way to miss out on side missions and funny world events and dialogue.

In any case, hidden loading screens can be obvious (an unusually long hallway, an elevator ride, a door that takes 10 seconds to open when every other door takes 2, etc), but I never noticed it in God of War or Uncharted. In those games, squeezing through openings and boosting each other is natural given the themes and settings of the stories. Wouldn't the games make less sense if they were completely stripped out?

@youreyesonly00:
I feel like this would help too. When The Last of Us Part II was reveled in at the end of 2016(!), everyone (or maybe just me) assumed it would be out in a couple of years, because why would the reveal something they had only just started working on? Holy-- that's exactly what they did, isn't it? -_-.
If our first glimpse of this game was at E3 2018, would fans have said "Pssh, I'm not buying this now! You should've given us a vague trailer two years ago!"?

You can't really "shadow drop" a AAA title of this caliber because too much money is at stake, but three years is NOT necessary.

The passage in the article that broke my brain:

"Many development studios try to solve problems like these with a production department—the part of the team dedicated to organization, logistics, and communication. It’s a producer’s job to keep track of what people are working on, coordinate across disciplines, and ensure that the whole team is staying on schedule. At Naughty Dog, there is no production department."

After the backlash you've received in the past, not to mention, the people quitting in droves, maybe, get on that. What Naughty Dog champions as "creative freedom" seems more like anarchy based on what we've read.

I'm surprised that they completely canceled it. A smaller showing with less games wouldn't have phased me, but this caught me off guard. Like all the comments above, better this than getting deathly ill.
I'm now wondering what the show floor will look like. Even on an off year, Sony takes up a considerable amount of space. Will it be just more walking room (which would be welcome) or will another exhibitor swoop in?