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@PerpetualBoredom Ah amazing vibes altogether! Tekken 2 might hit me in the feels, but Tekken 3 is one of the best videogames ever made. Couldn't believe my eyes seeing it running on a PS1.

It released a few weeks after my birthday, and I remember delaying my present so pick it up on launch day! One of the best decisions I ever made.

@Flaming_Kaiser I'm torn on this. I think Street Fighter 6 has (mostly) got it right. Stuffed to the gills with content at launch, gives you a way to try-before-you-buy with new characters, the fighting passes give you good content (I've some 15 to 20 arcade games now within SF6 due to it), World Tour gives you a way to experience the new characters and their moves too, and for me something important - the new stages. You can buy them with in-game currency that is easy enough to earn.

Tekken 8 feels like its a vehicle to nickel and dime.

My old man brain cannot fathom the cultural crossover of this game (or its popularity in general).

At this rate, I'd be surprised if my Nan didn't have her own season.

@trev666 Or they're using basic SEO to drive hits to their site by reporting about the biggest shift in the industry since Sonic showed up on a Nintendo console.

@LogicStrikesAgain I have zero interest in it personally. Played it a while ago on the Series X and it's just too dated. It was a landmark game for the industry at the time, but that time has been and gone.

One way or another, this on a PlayStation will be a landmark moment for the industry. I'm still thinking "holy smokes" every time I stumble across Gears of War on the PS Store.

@Andee Crimson is a certified banger!!! "doo bee doo bee da da!!!"

@Andee Same! Gonna stick on "WANDA WANDA" now.

@johndoe89 I'll be logical - reporting theft, insurance claims, faulty returns, faded/unreadable printed numbers.

Not at all strange...

Wanted this game to be good so badly, but alas it's just too chaotic (no pun intended) to be fun.

The old games are amazing, and the soundtracks are some of the absolute best in gaming.

Planet-sized katamari would be necessary to roll up the hype for this.

@Mostik The campaign is also a great example of quality over quantity. There's not an ounce of waste on it. It might only be six hours, but those six hours are so darn good that I've replayed it probably ten times over the years! I remember an interview with one of the designers that they took inspiration from the Mario games - introduce and idea, use it for a level at max, throw it out, introduce another idea.

I know the bit you're talking about, it almost broke me too! Getting the EPG launcher that's hidden in the gauntlet made it a bit easier too. It has the advantage of travelling in a straight line, but also the bit of splash damage if you miss.

The multiplayer is the absolute sweatiest thing I've ever played online (and I say that as someone with over 500 hours online in Street Fighter 6)... I've "retired" from it for a good while now, but it's home to some of my favourite ever gaming memories.

I've seen people call Battlefield 6 a "movement shooter", and as a TF2 vet, I'm thinking "is it really?" 😂

@Flaming_Kaiser I'm always bemused by this take. Tekken 3 has a base roster of 10 characters, plus 13 unlockable. Tekken 8's base roster is 32, with far bigger movesets too.

Genuine question - does DS2 still have the framerate issue that makes the fan go crazy on the map screen?

@Mostik Thanks! I think what made it doable was the fact that it's a fairly short run, and it's easy to repeat it. Still took a three hour session, mind 🤣

For me it was the perfect trophy - by the time I got it and jumped back online, I was far more capable with my movement in multiplayer, started seeing new routes around some of the maps too.

Honestly it's one of my favourite videogames ever made, absolutely exquisite. Best single player FPS campaign too!

@BansheeNorn So that negates the thing I originally replied to. But it also doesn't explain why Vanquish feels so different to Nier Automata.

@Bluemoon2008 I'm not talking about platinums. I'm talking about general trophy stats that say a lot of people drop games well before the end.

Looking at Street Fighter 6 (as it's my most recently played game) - only 15.7% of people have played more than 100 fights online. I unlocked that the day after release, and it's, you know, pretty much the entire point of the game.

46.5% have gone to training mode. So effectively more than half the people who bought this game booted it up, twiddle the sticks for a bit, didn't have a clue what they were doing, and turned it off.

@Balaam_ That's an interesting way to say "I like to curate my trophy list to look good at videogames when I actually suck at them".

I don't even "do" trophies, but I have Platinum for games like WipEout Omega Collection (one of the rarest and lowest completion overall on PSN), Titanfall 2, Sekiro, Streets of Rage 4.

Would love to hear your opinion on how "bad" the lists for those games are...

@Enuo I've yet to play NG4, but I've a sneaking suspicion that it plays nothing like Vanquish, or Nier Automata.

@Fiendish-Beaver I've a friend who's big into trophies, and it absolutely does her head in because I've platinumed Mass Effect 1 and 2 (in the LE), and I have one trophy left for platinum in ME3, but I just cannot be arsed 🤣

You make a great point about missing great games - I also know a guy who won't play Nintendo because they don't have a digital trinket system! Like, dude, do you even enjoy videogames...

@PerpetualBoredom I find T3 oo reliant on guitar (and I say that as a guitar nerd), and it just lacks the memorability of 1 and 2.

I'd use most of T1 and T2 soundtrack in T8 (with a bit of T5). Did similar in T7. And even bought the Tekken Jukebox DLC for TTT2.

Those first two games have a special place for me though - Tekken 2 was my first ever PlayStation game (and quite possibly the first optical disc I ever owned), and it reuses the bulk of the T1 soundtrack for the unlockable characters too. And it was the first videogame I ever heard piped through a hi-fi system.

Feeling nostalgic here now, thanks!

Just did a Hard run there with Paul. Back before the "fish for a launcher" overtook the entire game.

Highlights how much I dislike T8, and haven't properly enjoyed the series since T5 (the absolute peak for me).

@PerpetualBoredom Always found this to be the weakest soundtrack of the first five games. Bar Law stage.

As for the DS5 and Astrobot - I really didn't enjoy it. I hate Gyrocontrols and blowing on mics, really don't like the adaptive triggers or speaker built in and find the touchpad a nuisance - to me they are 'gimmicks' and Astrobot is NOT enjoyable to me with these features. I hated Gyro in Second Son to 'simulate' using a Spray can so having to use it to control a character just annoys me - so I've never completed Astrobot. I turn what I can off by default...

Hate all these too, and pretty sure I finished the game with everything disabled.

@Northern_munkey I'll be there for the multiplayer! BFBC 1 and 2 campaigns were top notch, mind (I feel so old thinking about those two games, especially 1 lol)

Video game visuals have very comfortably hit the point of diminishing returns, making the traditional jump from the PS4 to a PS5 less obvious.

I could never get on board with this. Demon's Souls Remake on launch day was an obvious generational leap vs. the PS4.

Play Ratchet and Clank 2016 on a base PS4 and then go play Rift Apart. Another obvious generational leap.

Horizon Forbidden West on PS4 vs. PS5, yeah...

@Fiendish-Beaver It's such a bizarre mindset to me. Imagine not consuming entertainment you want to because you don't have the skill to obtain a digital trinket no one cares about?

I've got platinum for games that were proper tests of skill, like WipEout Omega Collection, Titanfall 2, Sekiro. Partially for the challenge, but the fact is the trophies made me engage with the games and their mechanics thoroughly.

By the time I got it for WipEout, I was destroying people online. Ditto Titanfall 2. Sekiro was a "black mark" (had it at release, didn't get on with it partially due to the varying framerate on PS4 Pro), so I went back to it five years later to nail it, and I did (and it also became one of my favourite games of all time). But if it couldn't? Didn't care as it's a videogame designed to entertain.

Image if any other entertainment medium dished out trophies like this - "I'm listening to this garbage artist that I hate because it's an easy Platinum", or "I Platinumed my favourite TV show, can never watch it again".

Madness.

@Bluemoon2008 Does it? Because of you look at the trophy stats for a lot of games they tell the story that people really don't get too far into games.

@LifeGirl Yep, and the majority of trophies are little more than "engage with the content that you've paid money to engage with".

@Marquez Okay, Dad.

@Marquez Have you just discovered capitalism for the first time?

@Northern_munkey As good as BFBC2? I'll have to buy this.

@Fiendish-Beaver Nothing says "i'M a TrOpHY hUntER" quite like shying away from an actual challenge!

ITT - people who never owned a Series X. Microsoft have been ass at physical releases on their own flagship platform since day one, this should come as zero surprise.

@UltimateOtaku91 I find it so funny. You mean the for-profit multi-billion dollar corporation is in it for (checks notes) the money?! Say it ain't so!!! 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

@Bez87 I always find the people who enjoy gaming so much that they take the time to sign up to an enthusiast site gate-keeping how long it's acceptable to play lacking in self-awareness.

I mean, I sure as heck don't get to play for six hours straight, but I'd like a bit of juice in the controller when I pick it up again. Plus, the constant charge/discharge cycles shorten the lifespan of the battery.

@nomither6

$ony

You're on mid-term already?

@Dragoon1994 See comment number 3 on this very thread.

@HaveTheSauce This is despite the fact that Battlefield 6 has just released to great acclaim and amazing sales figures, AC Shadows also sold well and was well recived, and CDPR's last full release was one of the greatest bait-and-switches in gaming, and Capcom's last two big games run like smoking hot garbage.

JP, Lily, and Jamie have all found their way into the background as well.

@carlos82 Just like how I'm not going to pretend how FPS's on consoles weren't nearly as popular after Goldeneye vs. how popular they were after Halo. And how Halo sold an entire subscription service just to play it online.

@carlos82 Goldeneye was popular on the N64, sure, but Halo brought it to the console masses proper, and codified a lot of the controls that are still used today.

@AdamNovice Ramming an out-of-universe character into a Tekken-shaped hole doesn't negate the fact that this game is a mess.

Street Fighter 6 is my most engaged with game of this gen. As in, when I'm not playing it, I'm watching guides or high level replays.

This is a total joke, and not a hope would I pay a cent did this

@PuppetMaster Spot on, I won't.

@Propaperpusher Sadly it's the economics. Sinking years of work into a game that flops is basically a deathblow for the studio involved. They have to shift those units.

I look to the indie scene for games that take chances.

@Propaperpusher Stuff like Elden Ring, Baldur's Gate 3, Astobot, Expedition 33, Bomb Rush Cyberfunk l, Penny's Big Breakaway, Balatro, Animal Well, PoP Lost Crown, Rollerdrome, Armoured Core 6, Returnal... and that's just off the top of my head.

Plenty of soul! But I do agree with you there's plenty of rubbish (both games and policies) too.

(And thanks for keeping the discussion respectful!).

@Propaperpusher I don't have the energy to list all the killer games this gen, but it really isn't "debatable".

@Propaperpusher Plenty wrong with this gen, but plenty right too.

@Exerion76 I mean, you do. Base roster for Tekken 8 was 32, which is way above the complete rosters for the older games (base plus unlocks).

Back in the day you simply wouldn't have got these characters. Or maybe you did, then you had to buy a brand new game entirely to access them.