@AllTheReddist I ignored the other poster, therefor I removed myself from the conversation. That’s pretty much the opposite of bullying. Do you need anything else?
@graysoncharles Thaaaaats more like it. Can’t wait to see how much a Sony SSD costs. Thank goodness I only have around 120gb of games on my PS4, and will basically just get this thing for Demons Souls, and the potential of a Bloodborne sequel.
@oldschool1987 It’s to pass the ignore test, and you failed. Thanks for at least making it easy. You put “old school” and a year, 1987, so it’s a fair assumption. But I’m guessing you just want gaming to be cheap or even free, regardless of labor/development cost. I would rather reward good effort where it’s due. Have a good one, may I never have to speak to you again
@oldschool1987 I’m sorry, but I can’t do price conversions for literally every region in a mere comments section, because not everybody who comments here is ONLY from European regions. It’s a world wide website. I’m sure you can figure out the middle ground between all the price differences, but my point still stands. World-wide inflation is a thing, and gaming hasn’t increased its asking price basically until the PS5, so I’ll give you another chance at being constructive, for the sake of benefit of doubt. How else should they handle increased development costs, and inflation? You claim to be old school, so I’m assuming you have been around long enough to see that a AAA game at launch today costs around the same as NES/SNES games did at launch in their respective time-periods.
@graysoncharles The internal SSD is an NVMe drive, right? My gaming laptop has one of those, yet it can play games off a thumb drive or external drive. Sony can make it work that way if they want to, but they have a money-making reason as to why they are not doing it, not a technological one.
@Snick27 How else will games companies be able to meet increased development costs, and inflation, if they don’t increase the prices? Sony is the first, the others will follow.
Hell, this year alone prices for lumber, my other hobby, has almost doubled. Inflation is a thing, and it happens.
@oldschool1987 Arrogant? It’s a $10 increase. Meanwhile, games keep getting more expensive to make, but the games industry hasn’t raised the asking price for software in almost 40 years. They have to meet the demands of inflation, somehow, how is that anything near arrogant?
In the 1980’s, I bought Castlevania 3, an NES game, for $55 new. Here we are, 40 ish years later, and while costs for gaming have skyrocketed, we still want to pay sub-$60, or whatever your regions equivalent of that is.
Games cost more to make, pretty graphics and beefy hardware cost more to produce, software developers and their teams have grown in skill since the 80’s. If the game is rock solid, I’ll pay more to support the increased development costs.
It’s unreasonable to keep asking $60 for a new, big game. If you consider DLC, for example in Street Fighter V, if you bought everything as it was released you ended up paying around $120 for the entire experience. I think it’s better to be more upfront about the cost, but I also think it would be great if they were more upfront about how things were developed, so that we knew why costs increased.
We live in an age of technological marvel, where literally thoughts can become tangible devices...
And we can’t play a game from an SSD? PC’s come with this feature right out of the box. Sony is probably doing some strange anti-piracy measure, or just making it a super huge pain in the butt to crack their console.
I’m glad they are staying true to the games roots, but for the love of god I hope they simplify the upgrade system, some upgrade materials are extremely tedious to obtain in the original. I also hope they make the AI a little smarter, the original can display some dumb behavior. Looks incredible, hopefully Dark Souls gets the same treatment.
@SirAngry Right, and that point you made a few weeks ago makes a lot of sense. Games development is high cost and high risk, in terms of business models. It’s a nightmare for studios to stay independent, especially right now.
@BansheeNorn That could be true, but it would depend on how much has been updated, besides graphics. I'm hoping they took a lot of time to rectify Demon's Souls jank, and add some QOL features, like ITEM STACKS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
@Carl-G I’m sure you may not know this, but once a game installs to the hard drive from a disc, the only time the disc is read at all is to ensure you own a legit copy of the game. Everything else loads from the hard drive, so if you want super fast load times on a PS4, just install an SSD, they made it really easy to do. All my games are discs and I get load times below 10 seconds.
So I installed an SSD on my PS4 ages ago, which makes things like Bloodborne load in around 7-10 seconds, depending on the area. Same with Dark Souls 3. Do those games perform any differently when compared to a PS4 with SSD? If all a PS5 does is load things faster, I’m not sure I want to invest. Obviously a graphical upgrade is nice, and Demons Souls is a very good reason to grab the thing, as is the great backwards compatibility. It does kinda feel like the news industry is forgetting that you could very easy stick an SSD in the PS4.
The only one I got correct was the Demon's Souls one, because I didn't even know there was a showcase and I saw the footage of DS elsewhere, hahahaha....
From what I saw of the Demon's Souls gameplay footage that got released recently, I would say that's easily a $70 game. The quality is stunning, and that's a game that for me, will bring me over 1000 hours of playtime. I bought Dark Souls for $40, and I have 3000 hours in it, spread across a couple systems/PC. It's really going to depend on the game, and how much you value the game.
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Re: Sony Considered Raising PS5 Game Prices Beyond $70, Says New Report
@AllTheReddist I ignored the other poster, therefor I removed myself from the conversation. That’s pretty much the opposite of bullying. Do you need anything else?
Re: Sony Exploring Ways to Store PS5 Games on External SSD
@God_of_Nowt Thats what I’m trying to say to the other guy, but he seems to know something I don’t.
Re: Sony Exploring Ways to Store PS5 Games on External SSD
@God_of_Nowt Ah, I’m saying that the external SSD will be proprietary, not the internal drive.
Re: Sony Exploring Ways to Store PS5 Games on External SSD
@graysoncharles Thaaaaats more like it. Can’t wait to see how much a Sony SSD costs. Thank goodness I only have around 120gb of games on my PS4, and will basically just get this thing for Demons Souls, and the potential of a Bloodborne sequel.
Re: Sony Considered Raising PS5 Game Prices Beyond $70, Says New Report
@oldschool1987 It’s to pass the ignore test, and you failed. Thanks for at least making it easy. You put “old school” and a year, 1987, so it’s a fair assumption. But I’m guessing you just want gaming to be cheap or even free, regardless of labor/development cost. I would rather reward good effort where it’s due. Have a good one, may I never have to speak to you again
Re: Sony Exploring Ways to Store PS5 Games on External SSD
@graysoncharles Thanks for proving my point. Proprietary SSD incoming.
Re: Sony Considered Raising PS5 Game Prices Beyond $70, Says New Report
@oldschool1987 I’m sorry, but I can’t do price conversions for literally every region in a mere comments section, because not everybody who comments here is ONLY from European regions. It’s a world wide website. I’m sure you can figure out the middle ground between all the price differences, but my point still stands. World-wide inflation is a thing, and gaming hasn’t increased its asking price basically until the PS5, so I’ll give you another chance at being constructive, for the sake of benefit of doubt. How else should they handle increased development costs, and inflation? You claim to be old school, so I’m assuming you have been around long enough to see that a AAA game at launch today costs around the same as NES/SNES games did at launch in their respective time-periods.
Re: Sony Exploring Ways to Store PS5 Games on External SSD
@graysoncharles The internal SSD is an NVMe drive, right? My gaming laptop has one of those, yet it can play games off a thumb drive or external drive. Sony can make it work that way if they want to, but they have a money-making reason as to why they are not doing it, not a technological one.
Re: Sony Considered Raising PS5 Game Prices Beyond $70, Says New Report
@Snick27 How else will games companies be able to meet increased development costs, and inflation, if they don’t increase the prices? Sony is the first, the others will follow.
Hell, this year alone prices for lumber, my other hobby, has almost doubled. Inflation is a thing, and it happens.
Re: Sony Considered Raising PS5 Game Prices Beyond $70, Says New Report
@oldschool1987 Arrogant? It’s a $10 increase. Meanwhile, games keep getting more expensive to make, but the games industry hasn’t raised the asking price for software in almost 40 years. They have to meet the demands of inflation, somehow, how is that anything near arrogant?
Re: Sony Considered Raising PS5 Game Prices Beyond $70, Says New Report
In the 1980’s, I bought Castlevania 3, an NES game, for $55 new. Here we are, 40 ish years later, and while costs for gaming have skyrocketed, we still want to pay sub-$60, or whatever your regions equivalent of that is.
Games cost more to make, pretty graphics and beefy hardware cost more to produce, software developers and their teams have grown in skill since the 80’s. If the game is rock solid, I’ll pay more to support the increased development costs.
It’s unreasonable to keep asking $60 for a new, big game. If you consider DLC, for example in Street Fighter V, if you bought everything as it was released you ended up paying around $120 for the entire experience. I think it’s better to be more upfront about the cost, but I also think it would be great if they were more upfront about how things were developed, so that we knew why costs increased.
Re: Sony Exploring Ways to Store PS5 Games on External SSD
We live in an age of technological marvel, where literally thoughts can become tangible devices...
And we can’t play a game from an SSD? PC’s come with this feature right out of the box. Sony is probably doing some strange anti-piracy measure, or just making it a super huge pain in the butt to crack their console.
Re: The Godfall PS5 Trophy List Is the Stuff of Nightmares
@LiamCroft A mirror, when placed before the game, reveals as an indicator...never mind. 😑
Re: Next Mass Effect Game in Early Development
The originals will be great, but anything new from present-day BioWare is likely to be hot garbage.
Re: Demon's Souls PS5 Gets Surprise State of Play, Shows 12 Minutes of New Gameplay
I’m glad they are staying true to the games roots, but for the love of god I hope they simplify the upgrade system, some upgrade materials are extremely tedious to obtain in the original. I also hope they make the AI a little smarter, the original can display some dumb behavior. Looks incredible, hopefully Dark Souls gets the same treatment.
Re: Codemasters in Talks with Take-Two Over Takeover
@SirAngry Right, and that point you made a few weeks ago makes a lot of sense. Games development is high cost and high risk, in terms of business models. It’s a nightmare for studios to stay independent, especially right now.
Re: Codemasters in Talks with Take-Two Over Takeover
Man, with how expensive games development is becoming, it’s no wonder that studios keep combining. It must be hell, financially.
Re: Multiple Trusted Sources Tease Mass Effect Announcement This Weekend
@stinkyx I’m glad you like it. It wasn’t for me.
Re: Multiple Trusted Sources Tease Mass Effect Announcement This Weekend
Will Mass Effect, as a series, ever be able to recover since Andromeda? I hope so, if they make a new one, that is.
Re: Demon's Souls PS5 Has More Than a Whopping 180 Game Help Videos
@BansheeNorn That could be true, but it would depend on how much has been updated, besides graphics. I'm hoping they took a lot of time to rectify Demon's Souls jank, and add some QOL features, like ITEM STACKS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
Re: Demon's Souls PS5 Has More Than a Whopping 180 Game Help Videos
Are these help videos optional, or do they pop-up during tough parts of the game?
Re: Hands On: PS5 Backwards Compatibility - The Good, the Not Bad, and the Ugly
@get2sammyb Did the PS4 Pro that you tested load times on use a standard hard disc, or an SSD?
Re: PS5 Doesn't Have Quick Resume, But Loading Is Lightning Fast
@Carl-G I’m sure you may not know this, but once a game installs to the hard drive from a disc, the only time the disc is read at all is to ensure you own a legit copy of the game. Everything else loads from the hard drive, so if you want super fast load times on a PS4, just install an SSD, they made it really easy to do. All my games are discs and I get load times below 10 seconds.
Re: PS5 Doesn't Have Quick Resume, But Loading Is Lightning Fast
So I installed an SSD on my PS4 ages ago, which makes things like Bloodborne load in around 7-10 seconds, depending on the area. Same with Dark Souls 3. Do those games perform any differently when compared to a PS4 with SSD? If all a PS5 does is load things faster, I’m not sure I want to invest. Obviously a graphical upgrade is nice, and Demons Souls is a very good reason to grab the thing, as is the great backwards compatibility. It does kinda feel like the news industry is forgetting that you could very easy stick an SSD in the PS4.
Re: How Closely Were You Watching the PS5 Showcase?
The only one I got correct was the Demon's Souls one, because I didn't even know there was a showcase and I saw the footage of DS elsewhere, hahahaha....
Re: Soapbox: Screw Sony's PS5 Game Pricing, I'll Just Wait for Sales
From what I saw of the Demon's Souls gameplay footage that got released recently, I would say that's easily a $70 game. The quality is stunning, and that's a game that for me, will bring me over 1000 hours of playtime. I bought Dark Souls for $40, and I have 3000 hours in it, spread across a couple systems/PC. It's really going to depend on the game, and how much you value the game.