The price of games is going up. Sony, along with 2K Sports, may be an outlier right now, but make no mistake: other publishers will follow. It means the widely accepted price point of $59.99 in the United States is coming to an end; in Europe, you’re looking at price points of up to €79.99 for blockbuster PlayStation 5 games like Demon’s Souls. That converts to just shy of $95 on current exchange rates, although it does obviously include tax.
I’ve heard all the arguments for and against the price increases over the past few days. Obviously, I understand that development is more expensive than it’s ever been; there are credits sequences that feel as long as the campaigns they precede, with thousands of artists, programmers, and designers all contributing to a single product these days. Games are bigger than ever; Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War has effectively five different fully-fledged modes.
But there’s a barrier in my brain that prevents me from purchasing games once they pass a certain price point, and it looks like publishers such as Sony are eager to position themselves on the other side of that threshold. Now I appreciate I’m in a privileged position because – hands up – I actually get a lot of games for free. I need them to do my job properly, and while I’ve always argued that advanced access to software is more important than the financial savings, I’d be a hypocrite if I didn’t own up to this fact.
That said, I’m also a publisher’s wet dream; I spend unfathomable sums of money on software every single year, and just because I’m the editor of a popular PlayStation website, it doesn’t mean I don’t pump my own cash into titles I want (or, indeed, need) to play. I’ve never stopped to do the sums, but I’d estimate I spend upwards of £1,000 on games and DLC every single year, which must make me a big spender in relation to the rest of the industry.
Despite all that, I’m not going to pay Sony’s new prices – no matter how much I want to play. This is nothing new: game prices in the UK has been pretty high for the entirety of the generation – particularly on the PlayStation Store. Crash Bandicoot 4: It’s About Time is currently available to pre-order for £59.99 on Sony’s storefront – that’s almost $80, although again, it does include tax. Amazon UK’s currently carrying the game for the slightly cheaper £54.99, but it’s still far too much.
Those prices will increase to £69.99 with the new generation – frankly unfathomable sums of money to me. Here’s what I’m going to do instead: I’m just not going to buy the games. During my heady early-20s, I’d just allow the cash to flow, purchasing games willy-nilly with nary a care in the world. Most of these games cost half of what they do now, but I realised I never took many of them out of their wrappers. (Sorry, Max Payne 3.) These days, it’d be reckless to be so careless with game purchases when the prices are so high.
I’ve seen some granddads of the games media point out that, “Back in my day we used to pay up to a £100 for a Super Nintendo game!” I get it: games technically are cheap now – especially when you consider that they’ve been resistant to inflation for years. But, frankly, £69.99 is not an affordable price point for the vast majority of people, and in a year where publishers are recording record profits while other industries march towards economic ruin, I’d argue this isn’t even the right time to make a change.
Sony, in fact, has no excuse. Its consoles exist as a vehicle to vacuum up license costs from third-parties and subscription fees; I don’t doubt that games like Demon’s Souls cost a frightening amount of money to make, but they’re effectively there as advertisements for the hardware so that the platform holder can take obscene sums of cash from the organisations who want to take advantage of it. The price increases, particularly outside of the US, seem outrageously unfair to me.
But I’m not going to get my panties all buckled up over it; I just won’t buy the games. Here’s the thing: there will be a drop-off in sales because of this. And if the past few years has proved anything, it’s that prices fall fast. Okay, so I’m not going to be part of the zeitgeist with every new title that releases, but that’s just how it’s going to have to be. I’m not going to criticise anyone for paying full-price at launch, you’re welcome to do what you wish with your money – but this is the right approach for me.
At the end of the day, publishers can put their fingers in their ears and bump up the prices – that’s their prerogative. But we all know these companies live and breathe by selling software, and if there are more people like me, then they’re going to have to adjust fast. Sony’s high pricing on PS5 has been the biggest dampener on an otherwise good week, but it’s all okay – I’ll just wait. The prices will come down – they always come down.
How do you feel about PS5’s new software pricing? How much are you willing to pay for a new release? Cough up in the comments section below.
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I'll just willingly pay full price for games that I feel I'm actually going to get value out of. Definite buys for me are going to be Miles Morales, DMC5 SE and Demon's Souls at launch.
I also know for sure Horizon Forbidden West and God of War are probably going to be at the very least, good given the preceding games and their studios' pedigrees.
Final Fantasy XVI is another one to definitely watch out for but I'm contemplating waiting for the PC version of that because XV on PC spoiled me with how good it looked at a higher resolution and unlocked framerate.
The thing is yes it cost more to make gameS but they are making more money than ever. If they want to raise the price that’s fine but there had better not be any micro transactions or passes or any other bull they want to try. They raised the price to $80 in canada years ago and now they are again to $90 and again that’s fine but they better be full games not cut up and sold back to you.
Will I pay it for Demon's Souls if I can get a launch PS5 after the pre-order mess? Yes, other games that aren't that huge? That's doubful. I'm not paying that much for anything that isn't completely essential. Demon's Souls is just special. Godfall? I might want it as a launch game to play with others, but not for $70. I think it'll come back down as non-diehards for a game/series won't be getting it. That chance I took with Sakura Wars (which tunred out great)? Not for $70 I'm not taking a chance like that lol.
I agree completely. It's ok to raise the price. It's also fair not to buy it. Singleplayer games tend to get better as they age anyways. The need to buy these games immediately isn't really there anymore.
That’s been my mentality since I first joined Steam! I very very rarely pay full price because I have a backlog at all times and I don’t have the money to be spending bloody £70 on the one game.
Heres the thing. First party exclusive or from a series i really want then i'll maybe bite. Last of Us 3? God of War 2, FF16? Horizon? Persona 6? Yes i'll probably bite at full price. But i will have to seriously reconsider how much i spend. I'm actually quite interested in trying Demons Souls, but i really dont know whether i'll enjoy the hard as nails game play. So 70 pounds seems to be one hell of a risk. That's money i could be putting towards something for my kids 🤷♂️
On the other hand, i wonder if it will be as much as a problem this generation. Clearly game development costs are starting to get out of control. Covid is affecting the speed of development too. I'm starting to wonder if we will actually see as many games as we have been used to seeing this generation, or whether there will be a smaller pool to choose from. It wouldnt be a huge surprise. If games do come out with more spacing, im more likely to pick them up on release. Obviously hypothesising, but you never know!
Sell once done,
buy used,
wait for sales,
rent.
Same as always, averages out.
If i buy a game at launch next gen it is going straight on ebay the moment ive completed it.
Yep, fully agree. The video game industry is booming and a price rise is really not necessary as they'll have you believe.
I won't be buying Crash 4 for £55/£60 and I won't buy Demon's Souls at launch either.
There was a time when SNES games cost upwards of $70 and $80. If a game is that good I don't mind shelling $60 or $70, but I generally purchase most games since they seem to go on sale a few months after release.
I’ll buy more carefully and make sure I get more out of what I do buy. I think it’s ok really. I’ll stay away from buying used, as I usually do.
@TheGamerKing Let's give Sony an opportunity to explain exactly what its approach to Spider-Man is first.
I think its dangerous for us to assume that all next-gen upgrades should be free, as not all of these will be made equal. Some really will be just a bump in resolution; others will go much further. That takes additional effort and work, which obviously doesn't come cheap.
That said, it's clear that the expectation of free upgrades is beginning to be set, so Sony will need to demonstrate why we should buy Spider-Man again — or it'll need to offer a fair solution, like a small upgrade fee for example.
I agree with you 💯 % but the one thing that I Hate is when you buy a game too early. And there is so much contents there is missing and if you wait and buy the ultimate edition.,!
Prices going up $10 means that here in canada ill be paying an eye watering $90 for a single game.
They better be DAMN GOOD for that price
I think it's about time the price increased and have no problem with paying that for games that I feel are worth it. It might make me just a little more selective on which titles I get at launch; but no much more.
For Exclusives, I'm okay with it but if you think I'm paying EA or 2K $70 for a annual release you're out of your mind.
I've become a lot more strict on what games I buy full price in the last couple of years.
I've even completely stopped buying Collector Editions of games. Final CEs I've bought were for God of War and Persona 5 Royal.
Still have not decided what exactly to do. On one hand, gaming is a passionate hobby of mine, but one I do not need to live a comfortable and enjoyable life. I have an obligation to myself and others in my life to decide that there are more important things, necessities, to spend your hard earn money on.
On the other hand, I decided to go all digital with the V because I wanted to support some of my favorite development teams and I know, or rather have read articles on the topic, that buying digitally supports them and is financially healthier for them in the long run.
All of us have a difficult decision to make but waiting for sales is always a sensible thing to do.
This has happened before, big companies getting greedy and trying to see how far they can push prices. They'll go back down when they notice a huge drop in pre-order/first week sales (I admit this is me being optimistic)
I usually preorder all the games I want as I have a lot of gaming time and will usually get around to playing them within the month they release, so it's always worked out. Now though? I won't be making a habit out of buying games on day one anymore. 70 pounds!? They must be out of their damn minds.
👏 THANK YOU
[I thought I was the only one who would do that]
The regular PS sales and the periodic Steam sales have trained me not to get a game at full price. Price increases will just cause me to get a game at launch even less often. Cyberpunk 2077 is really the only upcoming game that I'd even consider paying £70, though I've already got that preordered for much less than that.
So many games drop to 20$ 6 months after release, especially Sony’s spring releases and Black Friday sales.
Besides games like TLOU2, I’ll be waiting for sales from now on.
I guess if prices must go up it'd be nice if there were more release day sales via PS+. I think the last sale I took advantage of like that was Doom 2016. Seems like I rarely see them.
Great point I've been thinking about for a while. Yes it's true that considering inflation games are cheaper than they've ever been. But also there is more competition in the industry then there ever has been. Theres just too many games! Most people buy maybe 2-3 new games a year and wait for sales on everything else. Increasing the price will just make more people wait a few months for a sale. Take assassins creed. Almost every year we get an Assassins Creed game in November. Like clockwork it will be on sale for $20 come January.
Games I might buy on release: Hitman 3, Bloodlines 2
Games I'll look at once the ps5 upgrades come through: Cyberpunk, Borderlands 3, Mafia Remake (although I might just pick that up on PC)
What I'll actually be playing for most of the next 6 months: PS+ Collection
I used to regularly but games at launch when they were £30-35, but I'm just not in that much of a rush to pay these prices unless I'm actually going to spend months playing it.
"The price of games is going up"
No, it's going down. Gamepass is just the beginning and games will sell at a loss even more in the future.
@Kefka2589 I don't know about the rest of Europe, but in the UK businesses are VAT-exempt
On price lists that are intended to be seen by businesses it will often show prices without VAT, or dual pricing. Same goes for other exempt categories such as children's clothing and disability aides. Otherwise VAT can be reclaimed.
@Artelous It still remains to be seen what kind of impact the advent of subscriptions will have on games. It could fundamentally change the type of games we play.
Far too early to come to any conclusions on that front, but there's no way publishers are going to give up a tried and trusted revenue stream and replace it with one that makes them less overall money. They'll only do it if they think they can get you spending more in the long run.
@get2sammyb Be Glad That They Don't Have Nintendo's Never Drop The Price Philosophy Other Wise We Would All Be Screwed Lol.
Games will still be bug riddled messes that require multiple patches post launch, will still have bits cut out and sold back to you as dlc, and will still have micro transactions. Despite the gaming industry making more than the film and music industries COMBINED. Yes games cost more to make now, but they're also selling more, and peoples' wages haven't matched up with the inflation rates.
As per, it's corporate greed and all it's doing is enabling the CEO's and shareholders to jack themselves off whilst bathing in the multiple million dollar bonuses.
I'll stick to my 2 -3 day one purchases and get everything else at a 50-75% off sale price. I think what publishers like Sony and EA don't realize is that this year hit hard for a lot of families and Xmas is going to be tight. So instead of a kid getting 2 games they may only get 1. I have a feeling we are going to see some IPs go dormant in the near future as "they didn't meet sales expectations"
Just the other day I paid £55 for metal gear twin snakes for the gamecube, pre owned so I guess I will pay what I need to for games I want. I have a huge backlog of games on multiple systems so I only buy things I really want day 1
No way in hell am I paying $70 for a game. If you take that and add in any DLC the company might throw in its nearly $100. Most of the full priced games I bought this year weren’t even worth it. I’ll just wait for sales.
The cost of making games argument doesn't always blend well with publishers always announcing record profits and such. Demons Souls is quoted but much of the work for that has already been done in terms of story, basic level and enemy design and does it cost more to make than Cyberpunk? For me if the prices do go up it will simply mean that I am much more picky in what I buy and in fairness I have less time than ever to play anyway
It'll just mean I'm even more selective about what I buy on release day. The rest can wait for sales. Will the strategy of charging more actually benefit Sony? It will inevitably mean people buy fewer games, thus generating less in licensing fees.
totally agree, £70 is way to much, i normally trade games in once i'v done them, so get a good amount back per game. if and only if trade in goes up by around £8-10 aswell i'll think about it. if it doesn't i'm waiting for them to go on sale. i'm not made if money, plus the way things are at the moment with the world and recession looming just makes it worse.
Yes I dont mind paying a bit more if it's fair but I dont know what's going on with the UK prices.
It's not right.
@QueenOfHearts38 The jump to 80$ in Canada didn't happen out of thin air though. The value of our money Vs the US$ dropped by 25%-30%. Taxes are making things worst. In Quebec this just made 90$ games go over 100$, it's like the good old time of the N64. And lets not forget that we seem to be the only country I know of who's paying more for the PS5 with the disk drive than the Series X.
Demon's Souls maybe. Everything else no
worse one seen so far is crash 4 at £55, trilogy 3 games was only around £35 and that in all i bet has 3 times the length of game play to £55 new one. was going to get it but now thats going to sale's bin before getting it, then spotted cod cold war all version for £65-70 can cod off for that price, sale's bin as well for that.
Of two minds on this article. Part of it screams, "as I get older, money, finally has become an object". On the other side of the coin, and especially as a business owner, I know that as the cost of living goes up, I too, have to increase the cost of my labor every few years. It's not something I want to do, but in order to make ends meet it has to be done. Interesting article! I will pay full price for games I am really passionate about, but the others can wait for a price drop. I'm also a strictly physical copy person, unless ps plus gives them to me for "free".
I was once like you, now I'm happy to wait for a sale.
Problem with being a Nintendo fan is that the prices don't drop all that far.
I with you on purchasing less games because of the price increases. I'd love to play Demon Souls day one, but I'm not willing to pay $120 for it. A price drop or second hand it will be for me for most games. Some I'll fork out the dollars for but they'll be few and far between.
I buy a lot of games compared to most folks, as I'm sure many of us do here, but I'll definitely won't be from here on out.
Which is the main reason I'm seriously contemplating getting an Xbox with Gamepass. And I've never owned an Xbox before.
What was the point in pre ordering your ps4 then? That's an expensive ugly white brick you've got yourself until games go on sale in 6 months...
I only ever buy games day one I know for a fact I’ll like.
Games like Demon Souls and Resident Evil 8 (Village) are games that I’ll buy day one.
I'll pay the higher price for great games like God of War and Horizon. However, Sony putting games like Destruction All Stars at $70 is absurd. They haven't hardly shown anything from that game or Sackboy's big adventure though that one is $60. Just from what we know I'd say there is no way that Destruction game should be priced that high. I doubt it has much content but hey prove me wrong Sony.
@QueenOfHearts38 The firstparty titles of Sony are quite complete at launch mostly and almost no MT in them.
Most of the games I will buy will be getting a PS5 upgrade. I would pay £70 for games like Persona 6 (when it comes out) The new Horizon game and maybe the Spiderman Miles Morales Bundle.
I'm not paying nearly 80$ for a game, I will wait for a sale, screw that *****. Game costing 69$ plus tax. Nope.
@mik987 One difference the crash games where finished they only needed a new skin.
Great argument lamenting high retail game pricing. Maybe the huge prices this gen will help us to narrow our purchases and choose carefully. I'm always up for sales and thank goodness every game since gaming began usually does. I always start with one of two in first year... Then as time progresses I end buying more each year and after 3 years backlog stupidity kicks in and have loads of titles unplayed. Keep up the high prices and hope it helps me be selective!
Those game prices in europe are very sour for me to accept , I like videogames but I do not love them enough to pay 80 euros.
We are about to face the worst recession the world has ever seen , I would be very surprised if these game prices still remain the way they are now.
Making games may have gone up with each new generation but more people than ever play and buy games .
Luckily I can play my backlog on ps4 till ps5 game prices drop down , but overall it does not bother me , I can just play games on my pc if these console prices of games remain throughout the generation
If you buy games on day 1 you get:
And for what? To say you played it first?
Not worth it in my opinion.
I barely buy any games at launch anymore.
Patience prevails
I like taking punts on random games. Not going to do that with each costing £70. So less games get bought. It's too much of an increase during a recession in my eyes and a really bad call.
I have always strongly supported buying games at release to support the industry. I just can't see the benefit now, the microtransactions will still be pushed and prices drop quickly. FF7 remake is now only £36 as an example. I can buy 2 games within 6 months of release or 1 at release, it makes sense to wait.
You will see Nintendos snide time limitation being adopted across the industry to keep prices high, I'm calling it now. Horrendous practice but it works. Hey hum what a load of crap.
@nookie_egg
Not being rude at all with this comment. Just curious if you have a source when you say that the game industry makes more than film and music combined. I would be shocked if they were actually pulling in that much revenue!
I hated the $59.99 price, but I paid it. I hate the $69.99 price hike, but I'll pay it. Sadly, everything goes up in price like this. The only thing that businesses aren't anxious to raise are workers' paychecks.
Sony can charge what they want. I won’t be paying it.
I only play single player campaigns most of them average 10 hours gameplay and offer little replay value. You want me to pay £70 for 10 hours?
These game companies make a fortune from micro transactions, mainly aimed at naive and impressional kids. In effect it is underage gambling!
These also used subsidies and tax loopholes across various countries to offset costs and hide profits and pay their CEO’s a kings ransom!
They are not hard done by.
I'm going to buy fewer games, definitely. I'm not paying $70 for a new game. A lot of the time that I do that I take it on good faith that I'll enjoy it for that amount of money. Now, I'm a hell of a lot more hesitant. I've got a crap ton of games, on PS4, PC, and Switch. I'm probably going to buy more games on my PC now seeing as how Sony wants to be greedy. They will probably get my $70 for new games I'm really looking forward to though. Like God of War 2 and the next Superpunch game.
New IPs are something I'm going to be more hesitant to try at that price. For every Horizon Zero Dawn there's a Days Gone, and I'm not going to gamble at $70. That's a bit too much. No thanks.
I'm from europe, €80 is insane. I rarely buy games at full price as is, let alone for that price. If it isn't Monster Hunter or Silent Hill, it'll have to wait l.
@Areus that's one thing I've always been confused about when it comes to games. Nintendo never takes flack for not lowering prices and every other company does. I had one guy tell me it's because Nintendo games always stay fun. Shoot, I love The Witcher III and Uncharted 2 even more today than I did at launch and they're like $10 now lol.
For me its simple if i get a fantastic almost always MT free firstparty games then i have no problem paying that kind of money.
HZD that game took me over 110 hours i found almost everything got the platinum and i still need too finish the expansion. Also the first game in ages where i didnt mind too look for stuff myself instead of going online too look them up.
Something like Persona is worth the money easy i find it quite something too say its too expensive with the amount of content they give. Then again with Heavenly Sword i didnt lose any sleep over it paying full price because i loved every second of it at it was 6 hours only.
If you look around you get the games almost cheaper everywhere atleast in the Netherlands. Also the MT rant is mostly for sportsgames and shooters which sell the most anyway.
Too make my point the most monetized games are the cheapest too produce with the least effort. And its not my problem the licenses are too expensive because they have too pay insane amounts of the players.
@Gremio108 Not even a Suikoden remake?? LOL
Id pay 70 for dead space 4, or a reboot of the series.
I already only buy a couple of games a year full price. This year it was FF7R and Ghost Of Tsushima and they were worth every penny.
Normally I wait until sales and if I really want to play something but can't afford it, I usually watch a Let's Play on YT. It feeds my hunger....lol
That said, I still have a massive backlog and I do really want to play AC Valhalla and Watch Dogs Legion but I am finished giving Ubisoft a penny til they get thier act together. I'll probably buy them 2nd hand..ooooorr maybe buy a 2nd hand xbox x 1 and £1 month of gamepass??? But I really don't like subscription model for games so probably not.
Honestly, I haven’t bought a game new for years. I’m no kid any more, and I’ve been gaming for over 30 years, so my backlog is large and growing (especially since getting PS Now). I’ll generally get a game second hand and trade back, meaning I’m spending about £10 net max (sometimes nothing and occasionally getting more back!). I’ll occasionally buy a game on PSN for PSVR or VITA as they are harder to find physically.
Which is all to say “hell no!” I’m not spending this much on a single game.
But everyone else please continue, I appreciate you subsidising me!
I do feel I’m not supporting Sony financially, but their censorship policy has made me lose much respect for them anyway. I do have PS Now, and am happy to get their big games several years down the line for a low price (I wouldn’t expect them to put there first party games on their day one given what they invest).
Whoops I selected 'Yes' instead of 'Sometimes'. 🤦♂️
I'll continue what I've been doing over the last couple of years, only pre-ordering games I absolutely want to play. This year it will be about 4 games, last year I think it was 2 games. Everything has has been picked up cheaper either in sales or second hand.
Besides the prices quoted are only the RRP, they will eventually go down on sites like Amazon.
@Darylb88 I'd pay £80 for P6. In. A. Heartbeat. Who am I kidding, I'd pay whatever they wanted. LOL I am so ready for that game.
nope, I have mountains of PS4 games to play, we'll have ps plus and the collection it'll be January sales before I buy anything probably
I'm not paying $70 for any game, I don't care if is Demon's soul's or a super amazing 4k 60fps Persona 6. I won't be able to enjoy the game knowing I paid that much for it.
The people that buy the PS5 digital will be at the mercy of Sony, they have to wait for when Sony is feeling generous enough to put the games on sale.
So in theory should spiderman on ps5 be roughly £35 due to the fact its not as big as the spiderman on ps4? Because I imagine its like that uncharted game that was roughly 10 hours long, but thats just my guess anyway its 51.99 so I dont know if thats what it really should be priced at but when you get the ultimate edition along with remastered spiderman and the dlc i think for an extra £18 its worth it for 69.99 to me anyway but just not sure about the other one being 51.99 on its own.
I think 70€ has been the norm for so much time that my mind just won’t accept anything higher than that. I’ll wait
Yeah, I totally agree with the article, and most of the comments here. The games I pay full price for are Nintendo first party games, and Naughty Dog games. The Last of Us Part 2 was the last game I paid full price for in a long, long time. So, when it comes to games like those, I'll continue to pay the full price. Everything else I can easily wait for a sale. Games may be rising in price, but at least the new consoles are fairly affordable.
I agree. And hey, games are going on sale mere months after release nowadays, even playstation exclusives.
Aint 59$ 60 $ how is it 80$ in uk.but i will always look forward to the sale.and my backlog is to much now.word up son
I might buy some games at full price st launch just to have something to play on the new console but other than that I'll wait for sales as I've always had
In my experience, Sony cuts prices way too quickly. I am likely an exception but I have a huge backlog, and by the time I sat around to play every single PS4 exclusive during this gen, the game had already been released, as a definitive edition, with all DLC, for maybe $20.
Sony has actually trained me to avoid buying their games at launch. Even third parties are hit and miss on that category. UBisoft might do a ton of crazy sales, but their games dont permanently drop in price that quickly (usually.) Other studios might actually go out of business, digital purchases vanish, and prices for games skyrocket.
Licensed games also have a high chance of just vanishing overnight (man that Transformers Devastation game just hit like a hurricane, and left as quickly as one.)
So, with third parties, I am less likely to wait and just buy at launch, or near launch. Sony games, I no longer buy at launch. This price hike wont affect me (well... it might... I would not be shocked if this time around Sony changes their "million seller" line pricing to $30.
There might be a game or two that convinces me to jump in day one. My partner might have a say on it, too, main reason I picked "depends on game."
I've never paid 60 usd for a game. And you can be f*king sure i will not pay 70.
So it shouldn't be surprising games like HFW and SMM are coming to PS4 also, since cost of making games is getting high. Well I'm also finding it difficult to spend £450 just to play Spiderman MM, and it's on PS4 too so.
@Flaming_Kaiser I'll make sure GTA6 is sold to you at £100 😆
I’m from the US, so a $10 price hike doesn’t bother me that much. I completely understand the frustration of people that live in other territories, but for me it’s not that big of a deal.
I've got used to paying less for older titles via games under the "PlayStation Hits" banner. I don't think I've paid £70 for Horizon Zero Dawn, God of War, Uncharted LL, and Spider-Man put together! I'm certainly not going to spend £70 to get one single game at launch. I just add games to my wishlist on a PS store price tracker and wait for them to go on sale - in fact it adds to the fun as I never know what I'll end up playing next, just depends on what gets discounted first!
It may be my aging memory failing me but I'm pretty sure the price of games at launch since the PS1 have always seemed extortionate. In fact I don't think I got any games for the PS1 for a month or so, just played the demos!
I bought NBA Jam (SNES) for £65 over 25 years ago. It was money well spent. These days only select Playstation/Nintendo games would I purchase day 1. Mostly wait 2/3 weeks and get on gumtree.
There was a time I bought the games I wanted as soon as they were released. I used to even have to catch the bus to Dublin so i could get the game, so game plus bus fare. It never even entered my head how much it cost me, I just wanted the game and that was all that mattered.
As I got older I rarely will pay full price. Infact I now get a satisfaction from getting a game on sale or price drop. I also used to be an early adaptor which I'm not now. The early adaptors are going to get fleeced.
@Morzy
I paid £70 for SF2 turbo on SNES. They were great times. That's the way we were in those days.
Jim Ryan is destroying all the good will Sony built with the PS4, they should fire his ass off and put Shawn Layden in the Wheel.
@tinCAT-zero Great times indeed, apart from no YouTube when we got stuck for weeks. We're better gamers for it I'm sure tho, explains our greying hair
@Morzy
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Demon's Souls yes, I want a new game with my new console and I know I'll get hundreds of hours out of it. After that no, I can wait. I'll have Cyberpunk 2077, Demon's Souls the switch and plenty of back log games to play. I can wait for games like rachet and clank to drop to £30-40. It's a shame as I would have picked it up at launch if I could still get them for £45, but I can wait.
The real danger I think they're riskng is once the hype has died down I'm usually more than happy to wait even longer for patches and the price to fall to £20. I did this with God of War and Horizon.
@Shepard93n7 10,000% agree with this. Ryan is the more boring Andrew Wilson. He's a corporate suit who seems to have his head so far up his spreadsheets and financial goal statements that he has not the sightest pulse on the market. Not only are the policies bad, he's not even trying to spin or sugar coat them to string customers along.Kaz and layden saved ps from itself so the start of ps4. This guy bailed from most pr events, went radio silent like they were hiding their platform, beat his chest about generations when they were (rightfully imo) going cross gen, the really weird game pass non-compete service, not entering the market as the price leader, then the Spiderman no free upgrade while the rest of the industry does it as a final "you're a money source to us" statement.
I didn't know Don Matrick was running PlayStation now, but here we are. #dealwithit.
If Microsoft comes out, hopefully after the prrorders so as not to make it worse, and says "ms game studios games rrp at 59.99 usd with 10% off games and dlc for subscribers", that's going to be their "this is how you share games on ps4" moment.
@get2sammyb I must say I'm impressed. One of the things that kept me from joining in at PS was the sometimes excessively fanboy tones of the articles here that I've always felt leaned too hard into the "everything Sony does is awesome" type of view. You've stunned me on this, and I'd have expected you to defend the "but inflation and dev costs" line of thought. Good on you! The industry is certainly going to contact with this move. Though cynically i wonder if this is "sale prices built in to extend the race to the bottom" in Sony's case. I remember when prices went from 50 to 60 us in ps3 and the reason was used games eating profits. Pc continued to be 50. It was a console tax. New decade, new reason: rising dev costs. Meanwhile profits exponentially rose all along. Hmmm.
Screw for 10£ more? They usually start at 49£ in stores despite 59 rrp. Maybe now they will sell at 59£.
I believe the cost of games being so high to produce is the bloat from executives or higher ups in general having such high salaries instead of production costs themselves. If a company that makes some of the largest, most detailed, most immersive worlds in the industry can make their games for a $59.99 flat price tag with no microtransactions at CD Projekt Red than any developer can.
@eltomo
I know your struggle.
I basically buy Nintendo published games that I want at $45. That’s as low as they ever go on the eshop. I paid that price for Mario Maker 2, Mario Odyssey, and Luigi’s Mansion 3. The only game I paid full price for was Breath of the Wild.
I’m all digital on Switch but I’ll be all physical on PS5. I have a data cap (250 gigs) and with the Switch I just pick it up and take it to town and use free wifi. Can’t do that with PS5.
There is NO game that warrants spending that much to play it day 1. I also will NOT buy a digital only edition and be held to ransom to pay those prices.
With a LARGE backlog that I can play on the new consoles and free games from PS+ and Gold, I am never going to be in need of something to play on day 1 and Game Pass is now a much greater proposition too - so many options to play games, quite a few on Day 1 too. Point is, there is absolutely NO game that is worth spending that amount of money to play it day 1 when I can wait a few months for the prices to drop to more reasonable costs.
I don't like buying used, but if the industry is pushing me away from buying 'new' with their pricing, then they are pushing me towards the used market. We already pay a 'premium' to play games on Console with 'higher' game prices than the PC and having to pay for subscriptions to play online!!
Games are profitable with a few million in sales - even though the cost maybe rising. The Devs get 'very little' on that money, its profit for publishers and shareholders. A lot of the cost - the majority of it - is spent on advertising - its not as if they need to pay to advertise as they can use Social Media posts, Console stores, home page etc to make people aware of new releases.
One of the reason PC prices are lower is because PC gamers refuse to buy games at that price and because of Cartridges, console gamers would. If people vote with their wallets, games will NOT be so expensive and they will probably cut back on advertising costs. If they make games people want to play, they will easily sell enough to be profitable - even if it meens they have to sell half a million more than they did 5yrs ago!
$70 - $80 is NOT the price "For The Player"
That's "For The Company"
$70 for Ratchet & Clank: A Rift Apart is pretty expensive.
I got R&C PS4 version with under than $15 from my local game shop with Used condition in February 2020, 4 years after the game has been released.
I will wait until the price dropped then i will buy the games.
No, I'll wait for sales. Unless it's a game I really want and I'll play it from day one (which is often not the case when I buy games on sale), then no, thanks. The price is too high. My launch games will actually be PS4 games running on PS5 to experience the improvement.
And I don't mean to be rude, I know games are getting really expensive, but maybe it's time to rethink that. Is it really required to spend millions to produce every single game? Sure we want our God of Wars, but I actually love my Crash Bandicoots as well - not every game needs to be a 90h+ open-world with hyper-realistic graphics, hollywood storywriting and characters played by live actors.
They never convert $ to £ so if a gam costs $60 they will charge us £60 and the price of PS+ i hope that does not go up.
I went in to this generation expecting games to go from £50-£60 and I was willing to pay this because I realise game prices have not gone up in recent years but paying £70 for a game is just unreasonable and looking at prices for next gen games from game it seems the industry is in disagreement on what to price there games at I just hope other people don't follow sony at £70 and the industry setteles down at £60.
@NEStalgia Glad you liked the article, but your post is a total overreaction.
It's game dependent for me but more so in favor of Sony 1st party games as they tend to "usually" be worth it and devoid or tame on all the mtx nonsense these AAA publishers be releasing these days. I'll say this tho, i'm going to continue to be playing a lot of ps4 games on PS5 for a while because of this likely. Still, there's usually deals you can find online when it comes to physical on consoles where you can usually save about $10 on release. Not so much when it comes to digital so this guarantees I will continue to lean on physical next generation.
Sony are arrogant and extortionate, just like over 10 years ago. I hope Microsoft give them a kick in the teeth next generation, like with the 350/PS3. Sony heed humbling again.
This article is pretty affirming, I'm glad I'm not alone here. Physical prices are bad enough but I cannot imagine going all-digital this gen and not even being able to sell the game you've paid $120AUD for after finishing it/obtaining the platinum.
I think Layden is 100% right in what he said back in June. Game budgets need to remain stable, lower, or just not exponentially grow as insanely as they have in the past decade because this is getting ridiculous for any consumer outside the US.
This has been my mentality for basically ever PlayStation console ever. The only exception really being Sega games on the PS4, because TheGameCollection tend to sell them at launch for £40-45, and they come with nice launch-day extras.
Agree 100%, for some games like ghost of tshushima, nier automata, god of war, and persona 5 royal, I'm okay with $70 since those games have long playtime, but I don't want to buy $70 20 hours games like uncharted 4 or ratchet & clank.
Yeah sony didn't need to do this, their big games usually sells really good 😕
Fortunately, sony 1st party games usually get discounted quickly, I remember waiting for maybe 3 months for days gone to be $40, and before that, god of war 3 remaster from $40 to about $8 (if I remember correctly).
"I’ve heard all the arguments for and against the price increases over the past few days".
For? Did you hear Sony's stockholders?
Waiting for sure. I'm buying a Series X first to replace my OG XBO, I'll pick up Miles Morales to play on my Pro and a PS5 next year. By then the games I want for it like Demon's Souls will have plummeted in price. I'm quite happy to use XBSX for Game Pass and my Pro has plenty of life left in it.
I'm quite happy to bully poor little games publishers by buying games during sales or second hand, because oddly enough despite inflation and dev costs they keep making record profits.
Doesn't affect me since I'm not upgrading, but I can already count the number of full price games I buy per year on 2 to 3 fingers max. Most games are not that important to me to play at launch. I think Cyberpunk 2077 is the only game I am paying $60 for this year, and actually, typing this, Amazon was selling it for $50 on preorder. The last game I bought for full price was probably Control.
There is only a handful of games I would pay $69 for. Another handful I will buy under $30-$40. The rest is $20. Because I have bought games and not opened them or played them until they where at a much lower price point. For this reason on PS5 I will never buy more than one game at a time. This is not about the new prices I decided this months ago. Because the PS5 is coming in Nov, I have only bought about 3 games this whole year. I have been enjoying my over size back log.
Some ps5 games in Australia are $109 stick that in pipe and smoke it 💨
@TUCKABAGZ I am going to guess a big part of that is going to the government in Australia?
To me, the sweet spot is 1-2 years behind the industry. If you purchased a PS4 in 2015 instead of 2013 the quality games were more plentiful, cheaper, and the hardware was more tested. I however have always been an early adopter. And I do believe there has to be that smallgroup willing to pay a premium at launch to help move the tech and the hobby forward. People give their lives to these games. I’m happy to spend 10 bucks more to support my community of gamers and developers. And to help ensure we keep getting these big AAA experiences.
I’d hate to see the industry buckle and we regress in gaming experiences.
Just what we need, playstation gamers not buying games and turning into xbox with gamepass, careful what you wish for.
Don't support the games and get trash.
With games going up to 70, I probably will have to cut spending on new games. On average I buy most of the big games every year at launch. 70 is a lot harder to justify than 60. 60 is just on the precipice of being too high but is passable. 70 means the games better be damn good or they really need to start offering refunds for bad games.
Production costs have increased but they have also put a gate in between us and friends playing online in which that price has gone upwards over this generation. So this argument that they have to do it doesn't sit right with me. Certainly not when the likes of EA and 2K will also be adding their gambling mechanics in and we'll also be getting cosmetic offerings. They've made a tonne of money from us all but i'm starting to get wary that Sony are starting to point in the direction that they did around the early PS3 era.
It's going to be very interesting to see what price the digital PS5 games are going to be on the store. The day 1 prices have been obscene for the PS4 yet they claim this fabled all digital future will mean the prices will go down. I am still to see a day one game on the PSN store be cheaper than buying from Game
I'm still not sure why the industry is unphased by the idea of lower sales. Personally when games were 50 with gcu/amazon us, i bought nearly everything as it came out. So 60 that caused me to be more effective and choosy In what i buy and switched to digital sales more. At 70 it changes perception and I'll buy a game here and there at launch like ratchet, but almost never otherwise until it drops in price. It's a number that starts comparing with too many real world tangible goods and feels like too frivolous a spend unless it's something i waited years for. Oddly I'd feel fine buying 3 $30 games, but not one $70 game..... I'll spend less by being forced to critically think each purchase.
Gran Turismo 7 and The Last of Us 3 for me next gen (at launch). The rest (like this gen) at a deep discount. Simple as that. No way I can justify spending so much on a hobby when I have a family to provide for and in these economically troubled times. Get a grip Sony!
I never buy a game at full price if I can help it.
There are very few games I've ever bought at launch price (Starwing, Fire Emblem Path of Radiance, Metroid Prime, Uncharted 4). Nintendo really p*** me off in this respect because their first party titles seldom if ever drop in price unless the console is on its last legs and they introduce a 'selects' series. I was around when Sega and Nintendo tried to charge £70 for a game and I had no part of it. If the trend for games is to charge similar on PS5 then they won't get money from me until games are heavily discounted.
I hope that this and GamePass doesn't bite Sony in the ass. It does seem like they're falling into the trap of overconfidence from winning the previous generation.
What kind of fool pays that much for a game? The kind of fool that wants to always end up paying that much. Dont do it and the prices go back down.
Personally, I wont buy a game over $20. I can wait for the sale.
I'm happy that I finally read someone actually complaining for the pricing on the news outlet. I am totally with you, 80 euros is just absurd pricing no matter that kind of game it is. While I understand that there are plenty of exceptions for games which would ask that price and would totally be worth paying, but it should not by any means be set as standard on the industry.
I bought every single PS4 Sony's AAA exclusive on day 1 this generation and it did not necessarily meant that I was playing it or enjoyed it very much, but I did so because I respect and love the quality that Sony studios bring to the table when it comes to games.
However, I do not see me doing this anymore. While I am still probably going to buy few games at full price if I will feel that it deserves it (huge fan of rockstar games, naughty dog etc ) I will think very carefully and the number on titles will drop drastically.
I am just wondering what kind of social class are they aiming for? What kind of middle class can afford spending 80 euros on a game, especially if you have children and other family needs to take care about. And I am living in Ireland which is fairly rich and economically strong country. I thought they wanted to make gaming as accessible to everyone as possible with consoles, but it seems that it's not a case anymore.
Beside, with all those new engine updates and techniques in game development it is actually much easier to develop a game and it takes faster to do so than ever before.
Don't forget all the ******* lootboxes they milk their games with. If you want to get paid 80 euros for your game, I don't want to see a single lootbox in it.
if americans only knew how good they have it. no idea how the american dollar continues to hold its value considering all the turmoil (is it rigged?), but somehow it does and the rest of the world suffers for it. in canada, a new physical release will come close to $100CAD taxes in due to the terrible exchange rate. naturally, it is ludicrous to expect even a hardcore gamer to pay this amount — it is as if sony doesn't want day 1 sales any longer and is encouraging people to purchase its games on sale or 12-24 months later. that is what i have been doing these past 7 years so i have gotten accustomed to it already. the only brightside to this is that sony usually does not fill its games with dlc or mtx, so it could be worse.... well, maybe i spoke too soon. with jim ryan at the helm, things very well could get worse over at sony.
That is a generally good idea, personally with the launch titles I want like Demon's Souls Remake, Spidey (yes I'm getting the Ultimate one as I didn't get the DLC for the 2018 game and it's meant to be overhauled), Sackboy also peaks my interest.
I need to know more about Destruction All-Stars.
Fortunately Cyberpunk is still a PS4 release that is the same launch price and it has the upgrades included on PS5 for no extra charge.
Once we get PS5's launch out of the way I'll probably wait out for the major titles to drop because I do think £70 for a game is pretty ridiculous, especially given how many copies of the big hitters will sell.
Sony will easily sell 10 million copies of the next God of War, Horizon etc, at the old prices they're making a boatload of profit per game.
It will of course depend on whether they hold out launching big AAA titles at those prices, if they drop down a tenner or so then I'd probably get more games, but out of principle and knowing that in a couple of weeks or even months they drop down to at least £30.
Considering how exchange rates place the UKs price points vs America or Canada or wherever else we are getting the short end of the deal.
Digital games are massively over inflated, considering Sony makes so much more per game on the PS Store, which is why I ordered the Disc PS5.
Gaming is becoming a luxury product more and more. This gen I haven't bought a lot of games on day one only the PS exclusives and games I was really interested in and wanted to support the develpers. I already stopped pre ordering years ago. It's a big hobby of mine but I won't be laying down the cash on full priced games for € 79,99. Those were special edition prices this gen haha.
But also I can't I'm 32 now so we have a lot of other stuff where our money goes also I hope I'm blessed enough to have a kid in a few years time.
So buying a game for 80 euro's is not something I can do anymore.
So I'm focussed on my backlog for now.. And I say now like it's consist of 5 games but it's a lot... I have a big backlog.. Monster Hunter World and the Witcher 3 are a part of it.. And then some..
But also these prices during a pandemic doesn't seem viable. Money is tight for a lot of people roght now. A lot of them also lost their jobs.
@NEStalgia in the UK we're going from getting £49.99 to £54.99 base prices for the standard edition, to now seeing £69.99 beginning to become the standard price.
I think Sony are likely testing the waters, if enough people diliberate over paying that launch day cost then maybe they'll ease off a bit.
TBH they have been getting big quantities of sales, at that launch price of £50 here and the same dollar figure in America, I doubt they will see the same initial numbers at launch.
I guess with the Digital Model they're going to have people forced to buy through PSN, which is obviously what they wanted, those people can't buy used from the brick stores, so of they're not content to pay that same £70/$70 price on PSN then they'll wait for the sales.
I'm glad I got the Disc model, because it gives me more choice on where to buy, I hardly ever buy digital, unless it's a sale that's well below any physical copy, plus I sub to Plus for the IGC.
Anything Red Dead or GTA, I’ll happily splash my cash at launch. Otherwise, I’ll wait. Sad for us Europeans. In Denmark, games prices are already nearly 70 usd at launch for physical copies. PS Store is a joke as new games are already about 80 usd. Also, the pattern has become quite clear in recent years. Wait about 3-4 months, and games go on sale + they have been patched during that time.
Just wait 6 months and most brand new titles are half price at least. Easy. Except nintendo ones but that's what ebay is for.
The price hike is fine as long as developers make clear what gamers will be getting. If they do away with paid DLCs and other exploitative microtransaction, most gamers will appreciate the value even at this higher price.
I pre-ordered the Digital PS5, because I want my money to go to the people that make the games possible in the first place, rather than prop up a business like GAME, because without supporting the developers, there will be no games when the model becomes unsustainable.
Whilst I have not done it as strictly as I should have done in the past, with PS5, I will ALWAYS buy my PSN credit from discount sites rather than just pay the PSN store price outright.
I will pay launch price for the likes of Horizon Forbidden West or Ratchet and Clank as I know I will play them immediately, but anything else will wait for sales (I have plenty in my backlog to tear through).
Pretty much most of my PS4 library is digital as I can't be bothered messing around with discs, making sure they're not scratched in any way and being constantly asked if I want to "protect" my disc for an extra £1 (or it being added automatically at the checkout).
I did review my library of PS4 games and have noted what I've paid for each, some not even started whether I paid full price or from a sale, but if I compare what I paid to what they're being offered now (digitally) I would still have saved a lot more money, so if I'm not going to play them within the next few weeks, I'm simply not going to buy them.
I will be strong......ooh look, a PSN sale.....brb
My biggest issue is that a price increase won't mean the game will be any good, but just have better graphics and have bigger sometimes empty worlds. And I'm not gambling £70 in the hopes that a game doesn't completely suck. Also it won't fix today's trend of innumerable DLCs and microtransactions.
That’s a £20 increase in the Uk. I already hesitate spending £50 on new releases but £70 is too much I just can’t justify that much money for a game. Not all of us have infinite cash, waiting for sales is going to be a must next gen.
They better make that increase worth it for cross gen games like Horizon and Spider-Man on PS5.
My bite point is £20 for top quality games. GOW, Spider-Man, LOU, bloodborne, Last guardian, horizon zero dawn. All £20 few months after release. Then all other ‘not quite sure’ games I purchase at £10 limit. Doom, Wolfenstein, prey as examples.
I broke that once for last of us 2 because I knew I’d get the story spoilt if I waited too long!
Imagine PS5 will be the same as well. Just have to be patient and enjoy my 200 game backlog from PS plus in the meantime....
Will keep doing what I did until now: 20 euro's per month for games, and from that I also pay PS Plus annually...
Will echo what others have said. I will have to pay for a few launch titles but it would have to be something VERY special to me to pay £70. Games don’t cost £70 anymore they all need more dlc, mtx and other purchases. Neither will I pay for a PS5 upgrade. This is the wrong time to try and squeeze consumers. The world is suffering.
I'll just do what I always do and wait a year or two and pick up games for £10-15 in the sale. The only game I buy each year new is either FIFA or PES. Oh, and Tony Hawks when it was released. Nothing else bothers me to need it ASAP to be honest as I spend most of my gaming time on the previously mentioned.
Excellent paper, Sammy !
I'm exactly on your side, on this ! Yes, I find this increase outrageous, but no, we don't have to pay that amount of money.
I'm even not doing it right now. With time, I've learned to be patient. These days, I'm trying to complete my backlog (knowing that I'll never ve able to do that), waiting for the big games to go on sale.
So this is going to be the same for me, on next generation.
But we've got to admit that this price increase news suddenly gave even more attractivity to the competitor's gamepass system...
Point is : players has to be carefull. We are not forced to pay their games 80€. We juste have to be patient.
£69 for demon souls is nuts considering it's a remastered game, I don't think any remastered game should be full price.
Will carry on with either waiting for the physical games to drop in price, get them in a sales on PSN store using top up credit purchased at discount to save more.
There is not a single PS4 game I bought at full price. I got most of them for 30€ or less. I never understood the impatience of people pre-ordering games or buying close to the release date. Especially when there are so many great games on several platforms that came out in recent years. Meanwhile the pile of unplayed games grows in many cases.
@NYJetsfan123 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-47783558 is a reputable site. This was a while ago but it hasn't changed, I'm just on mobile and that was a quick search. It's crazy money in games.
@get2sammyb Which part do you feel is an overreaction? Being surprised you'd be taking an opposing stance to a Sony policy, or that Ryan is a Matrick level problem that should go?
That's not a suggestion that ps5 sales will mirror xbone sales as a result of his policy, but that his actions are annihilating the good will Sony built under Hirai and House... Even Tretton. It's hard not to see the same kind of bridge burning Matrick is infamous for. Preorders don't tell us much, and people, myself included, are buying on faith of the brands past, in spite of Ryans circus, more than anything solid Ryan has done to win sales. Holiday 2021 is when Ryan might have some hard questions to answer. Even wiiu sold great at launch.
@Bamila I've been wondering that same thing. The game pricing suggests they're aiming to make gaming a high end luxury product for the high income market. That seems counter productive for growth which they also seek. On the other hand, why not just sell $1000 consoles if they're doing that? Instead they're heavily subsidizing consoles to hit a 399 price point, and ms is hitting a 299 price point cheaper than any launch console last gen and hyping subscription. Ms is gunning for more affordable mass market gaming, Sony is clearly trying to do that with their hardware pricing while also trying to position the games as a luxury market. It's a very confused strategy. Consoles are mass market but games are luxury goods... Ok, that's coherent.
Meanwhile Nintendo is keeping $60 for now but never, ever drops the price. They might be even worse?
Videogaming is not such a luxury if you consider the price/hours ratio, especially thanks to sales.
I have (re)played many games for more then 50 hours paying them € 20/40, and there also a ton of good little indie games that you can buy for less than € 5.
The industry is just monetizing the hype of fans selling games at high price for the first few months, then they lower it to attract all the other gamers.
It depends on the game for me. I would gladly wait for a discount for all releases. But we live in times where the whole internet is trying to spoil every major release - games, movies, etc.
@kiki3400 Okay fine. But I want a life-size McDohl statue in the box
@get2sammyb....... The problem is not the price increase, the problem is us gamers and the pre-orders... Pre-orders are cncet to gaming the we gamers keep feeding and you game journalists don't point this out........ The dot-com buuble was burst because during that phase instead of it being about the booming of technology it became about speculators/investors...... All those it companies that came up during that time got ate up by each and every one of them chasing the IPO pipedream... And this is what we have brought with Pre-orders to Gaming....... Right now Sony can focust debt by projecting estimated revenue/profit based on the number of Pre-orders currently being placed for the Ps5 and this projection will be shown to investors who will then want to pump in more money into Sony to maximize their ROI............and this is done through us paying through our noses now(price hikes) .............. This is what you guys in the gaming media should really clamp down and shout about to the roof that Mtx and pre-orders should be eradicated from gaming..... Gaming should go back to when the pressure was on the developer/publisher to release a game good enough to make gamers part with their money........... Think about it.... Gameplay has not developed so much because everyone is focusing on the graphical wow factor to then release a trailer to generate hype and secure pre-orders......there not a single game that has Gameplay that suggest the Gameplay implementation costs 100s of million dollars.... It's the graphics that make game development expensive........... You just murdered the Fast n Furious game because it had not so modern crisp graphics.........even if some parts of the game are good, your review just killed the game purely on graphics..... Same reason Fifa always gets minimum of 8 from all reviewers in the gaming(never seen the game review below 7 no matter how bad or unplayable even fif2020 reviewed 8 last and we know that game was a messy because it always gets shiny modern graphics that get emphasized in each review...... So to stop this spiriling of prices you guys must start calling MTX AND PRE-ORDERS......... Hopefully we get the same price drop off on games as in this Gen..... But I have a feeling it might not be as much as it was in the current Gen..
I remember paying £40+ for games like dragons lair back in the 90’s! My first property cost me 39k sold it for 130k 10 years later. Gaming is an expensive hobby but inflation hasn’t been ott in the gaming industry
To be honest that’s the strategy I’ve had for a couple of generations now. Because there are so many good games I’ve had a backlog for years so don’t feel the rush to buy games at launch and I wait for price drops.
There are exceptions of course but generally I spend less than £30 on the majority of my games and will likely do the same on ps5.
Meh. Usually I buy games that last me more than 20 hours. 80 divided by 20 is 4 euros per hour.
That's cheaper than a movie in the cinema.
Game prices have been stagnant for a long time.
It was only a matter of time before this increase would happen.
If they expect to charge so much for their games, they better provide game demos too for you to try first. Because it’s difficult to return a game indeed impossible for a digital one if you’ve even downloaded or streamed it on PlayStation if you don’t like it.
I live in Germany and prices have been ridiculous here for years. Normally I’d just buy the games in UK since with the shipping and conversion rate it’s way cheaper than paying full price here. 70€ for a new PS4 standard game release is normal, can’t fathom paying 80€ now considering the economy and all.
I’ll either 1. Buy only Sony AAA on release day for full price and wait for a sale on third party games. Or 2. Just wait for sales altogether like Sammy suggested.
I always a find a virtual trip to Turkey makes the prices far more palatable...
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You will indeed pay for the games you want, I know it
I’m more than happy to pay full price considering the time I get out of these games.
Ultimately it's for you to decide if you're ok paying X amount. Irrelevant if it's full price day one, discount on sale, or wait for complete edition. As per Sony - "It's For The Players" (to decide).
Article is just a over-privileged first world rant. Waaaah!
ive seen some prices here from 90 to 120 francs for delux edition.
I honestly don't know what people's problem is with the pricing. I know paying more is obviously worse than paying less, but just because it's worse doesn't mean it's unfair. Video game prices haven't gone up in ages, nowhere near at the rate of inflation.
Say what you will, but I bought SNES games in the '90s for more than the price of a PS5 game and that's without adjusting for inflation.
The price increase is fair. We were aleady paying £60 so an extra tenner is like three cups of coffee at Starbucks. It's not that much more.
This raises an interesting question because last year, on NintendoLife, I griped that a new release was too expensive and I would rather wait for a sale. One user said that I should get a second job instead of complaining, and the argument later devolved into prices and value.
He then argued that if gaming is too expensive, nobody deserves to play since cheapskates shouldn't play video games--thinking that everyone should pay full price to "indie" developers especially. When I countered that some of us had our systems gifted to us, he then argued that poor people shouldn't play video games and nobody should give them systems or games to play for free.
You can imagine how well that went when everyone else rightly pointed out how dumb and dense he was. Seriously: the pricier these get (understandably for hardware and development costs), the harder it is for many of us to justify full price and wait for sales, even if some elitist buffoons call us cheapskates who don't deserve to play because we're "poor".
I'm still getting a PS5 and games, but I'm in no rush to adopt one this year--likely in a year or two when a lot more games are out, prices drop and more sales happen, and of course a Pro model will likely be released.
On the other hand, I got the first PS3 when it still had backwards compatibility for PS1 and PS2 games...but that was a surprise gift from my ex-girlfriend, not an early adoption purchase for $600!
It depends on the game. If someone who spends 12-15 hours a week on fifa bought the next fifa for £150 even, that's still top bang for your buck compared to paying £10 for a 2 hour movie at the cinema.
I don't think I've ever paid full price for a PS4 game...
For the people defending this: yes game prices haven't gone up in years, however they don't need to either. Games cost more to make but the games industry is making record profits, it all evens out, they do not need more money, they're just being greedy.
Films cost waaay more than games to make and you still only pay a maximum of 20 pounds to go see it in the cinema or buy the DVD/blu-ray so you can watch it whenever you like. There is no realistic excuse for this.
Stop defending the greed of these multi billion dollar companies.
I'll gladly play 70$ for a game if they don't have DLCs, micro-transactions, season passes and updated re-releases that release after a year of the initial release etc. If I get all of that for the 70$ and it's a game that otherwise gives me huge bang for buck, count me in.
Otherwise, no. Maybe companies should look into how much they're spending on marketing while crushing developers with hard deadlines and crunch time, rather than trying to make consumers pay for it.
People saying that they used to pay exorbitant amount for cartridges don't realize that digital distribution is bigger than ever, and discs cost much less to produce. On top of that you have the aforementioned milking with DLCs, season passes and updated re-releases.
Yep, likewise somewhat concerned about the regional pricing differences...in Aussie Colonial $$, Miles Morales standalone is about $95-$100,Sackboy is $110,& Miles Morales Ultimate/ Spiderman remaster & Demon Souls are about $125.
I seem to recall the early PS3 launch era possibly had the likes of Fight Night & certain other titles going for Sackboy pricing levels let along the prohibitive Snes/MD new releases costing a bundle.
As much as I'm not a fan of gamepass & the longer term harm it could do to indie games & pushing live-service games,I do hope competition does help reduce the pricing a tad,or at least address the regional pricing imbalance clearly happening here.
It's not like 3rd party AAA publishers are going to reduce the mtx baked into their new releases!
@Severian here here! Three years ago I was a young successful professional who'd paid off their student loans and indulged in games as an expensive pastime. Then I fell ill, and now I'm medically unfit to work and have to rely on meagre state benefits (which I was always happy to pay into as a higher rate taxpayer). I've pre-ordered a PS5 because I can't afford the PC upgrade cycle any more and I have more free time than ever.
It turns out that a lot of other disabled people I've met online also use gaming as an essential social activity and pastime to maintain their mental health in a world that sees us more and more often as useless eaters. The industry needs to acknowledge that people in poor financial situations are a huge market which they risk alienating. Each person might not have a lot to spend, but we are legion.
@theheadofabroom Precisely! There is of course a cost for the pastime, but it shouldn't be treated as this elite practice.
The whole argument for elitism and everyone needing to pay seems to also forget that some of us grew up sharing our consoles with our neighbors who couldn't afford them and vice-versa. After all: gamer culture isn't just playing games, but the related interests. Even if a neighbor couldn't afford a SNES or PS1 back in the day, said neighbor could still be your favorite player 2, who ends up playing chiptunes on an acoustic guitar for example.
And as much as I hate the f2p model, there are also free games, and free to pay are still options for some gamers rather than blockbusters or indies.
I hope that those of us in poor financial situations improve our lot, and the social connections from gaming have actually shown me that gamer culture, for all the criticism of it, has just as many cool people as it has some toxic jerks.
@supergurr Tell me about it I had to drop DOUGH to get a physical copy of Fatal Frame/Project Zero V on Amazon if a game is worth it it's worth it all depends on the individual. If it's a complete great looking game with no season pass or microtransaction bollocks like Ghost Of Tsushima or God Of War I don't mind a meager 10 quid hike
i'll just have to start being more selective of the games i buy, things like demon souls and re8 are day one buys, games like ghost or whatever i'll wait for below 30 dollars before paying.
i can't speak for everyone's money situation or how they plan thier hobby out but if everyone did what im going to do that would probably have a drastic effect.
Seems like we're in another tik-tok process where Sony gloriously rises above competition (PS2 era) then stumbles big time (PS3 era).
I'm actually quite perplexed at the fact how disconnected Sony became from the real world. Let's forget for a moment we're in a largest recession the world has ever seen since WW2.
I'm a PC player as well, and in the last year or two, I became PC player first. I have EA Play Pro membership - a 100$ price tag per year. I took it last November (November 2019). Since then, for those 100$ I played superb Star Wars Jedi: The Fallen Order, had a blast with Star Wars Battlefront 2, had some good times with the latest Battlefield (not quite my cup of tea, but it's an eye candy). I also played great indies (such as Dead Cells), played the hell out of Northgard, had a re-run of Dragon Age - from Origins to the latest DLC of Inquisition, Burnout Remastered, replayed Andromeda just to see how awful that game was, and now I'm happily waiting for imminent release of Star Wars Squadrons.
All that for 100$.
And I should pay 80€ (I'm in Europe) for a SINGLE game, DLC-s and MT not included? Not in a lifetime.
Also, I'm using Uplay+ sub for a couple of months a year (this year it was 4, so the total bill was 60€). Anno, Settlers, yearly AssCreed and other Ubisoft goodies (DLC-s included) all for 60€.
If I had access to Xbox Gamepass, I wouldn't even need Steam for my RTS and grand strategy hunger.
So, Sony basically sells me the console for their exclusives. Unlucky for them, the last proper exclusive for me was God of War (didn't play Ghost of Tsushima as I refuse to subsidize Sony, unless from a bargain bin, until they revert course from catastrophic TLOU2) and I don't see any enticing PS5 experience in the near future to either buy PS5 console and especially not paying 80€ for a single game in year 2021.
Yes full price for demons souls at launch. Time to slay some demons. Love it at first look😊, Thank you 🙏
I’ve had a look on amazon and most of the PS5 games I’ve seen are around £51 apart from far cry 6 at a whopping £69.99! I think games will come down once the consoles released!
I would only pay anywhere near £70 for a game I Really wanted like the last of us part 2, horizon, god of war 2 as you know with those games you are getting quality!
I remember when the WiiU was released they started out charging £55 to £60 for games that quickly came down sharpish!
GamePass is looking more and more enticing every day.
@themightyant THIS!!!!! So much THIS. I stopped buying games day1 BECAUSE of the bugs/patches/dlcs/goty editions. I just wit six months when the game is ACTUALLY finished.
to be fair games have stayed the same price for a long time so was always going to happen but they never sell full-price. I have seen PS5 games for 55 max online. after it settles retailers will be out doing each other like always.
@Oscarjpc if you think that will be around with these next-gen games you are in denial it makes no money as it is google it.
@Gamakazil if you believe game prices going up for the first time in many years is sony in a backward step you are high on crack.
unlucky for them naa GOT sold millions what are you on about?
Again same question...
Is better to sell 10 items for 100 money per item OR sell 100 items for 50 money per item???
@johncalmc it's a 40% + increase in 14 years for a wholely discretionary item while inflation has increased non-discretionary spending, income has not increased in step (and doubtfully ever will.) And competitors are focusing on decreasing barriers to entry at least temporarily to gain market share. A cost increase is not sustainable while driving the growth this industry seeks.
I'll probably do what I did for PS4; wait for a black friday bundle the year after it releases. In 2014 with my new system I bought these:
$32.18 Assassin's Creed IV Black Flag - PlayStation 4
$30.73 Bloodborne
$29.99 Mad Max - PlayStation 4
$29.99 Batman: Arkham Knight - PlayStation 4
$29.99 Mortal Kombat X - PlayStation 4
$24.99 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - PlayStation 4 (awful!)
I have NEVER paid full price for a game. Of the ~350 games I have purchased since then (Vita too), I averaged $11.63 US dollars by only ever buying on sale.
I can wait - this is how markets work. For those that pay full price, thank you for subsidizing my gaming and my retirement.
From what I saw of the Demon's Souls gameplay footage that got released recently, I would say that's easily a $70 game. The quality is stunning, and that's a game that for me, will bring me over 1000 hours of playtime. I bought Dark Souls for $40, and I have 3000 hours in it, spread across a couple systems/PC. It's really going to depend on the game, and how much you value the game.
I still judge games on the one play for a quarter model. So, 70 dollars means I'd have to play this 280 times for it to be worth it.
I don’t like it but it’s not gonna stop me getting the few new release games I buy each year. If it’s RE or a FROM game I’ll be there day one. Most of the stuff I buy is on sale though.
I think a lot of gamers have a funny idea about what constitutes value.
Games cost a lot to make. Way more than ever before. There is greed involved of course but we can’t have have our cake and eat it too. I have games I’ve bought full price that I’ve played for 1000s of hours. I’ve also paid full price for a game and it lasted 12 hours, but that 12 hours was magic.
I agree. It's a crazy amount of money imho. I have always waited for consoles and games to drop in price, and it has saved me a lot of money over the years. That way, I always see a good number of reviews as well. I mean, imagine spending nearly £80 on something like...Fallout 76!
@TG16_IS_BAE I’m similar in that the FROM
games have given me thousands of hours across all the games. Value!
@David187 no, it's not a first there is a game price increase and it wouldn't be problem if other companies have exactly the same offer, and the entire industry follows the same trend.
However, when other major publisher and console competitor offers bundles where you can play hundreds of games for a price of a single PS5 game, Sony is in major, major trouble. Or how you said it, they must be smoking crack to believe this model is sustainable in the long run.
Fine if these greedy publishers wanna increase the prices how about they stop selling dlc, multiple season passes, macrotransactions, and lootboxes, and actually sell FULLY PATCHED COMPLETE GAMES THAT DON'T REQUIRE DLC IN ORDER TO BE A FULL GAME!
Only then will I go along with a price increase.
@TheArt If that happens you know its the end of the world. A new Manhunt would be awsome though or maybe not i dont know if hyperrealistic killing is smart too do.
Actually just learned about this a few days ago. Just on principle I won't be paying $70. The absolute vast majority of games don't even warrant $60 so $70 is out of the question. I do buy about 10-15 games per year at full box price currently. That will now be 0. I will buy second hand discs ONLY so that I can be sure none of the money goes where I don't want it going, to greedy mega corps. This is my protest. I hope more are as stubborn as me.
@Arnna Of course they cost more to make, and the market is enormous compared to what it was when they were cheaper to make, not to mention the exorbitant amount of post-launch monetizing most games do. Go look at the actual profit reports of current game makers then tell me how poorly you think they're doing compared to those of yesteryear.
Crytek engineer: ‘The developers are saying PlayStation 5 is the easiest console they have ever coded on to reach its peak performance. Software-wise, coding for PS5 is extremely simple and has so many abilities that make the [developers] so free.
ok so if its so easy to me that means less time = less money, not the other way around there making it out to be, equals there simply greedy.
@Rob_230 @TheFrenchiestFry Same thoughts here! I'll definitely pay full price for games or series/franchises that I truly care very deeply about, or know for sure I'll be spoilered on.
All other games, will wait a few years for deep price cuts and for all (or most) of the bugs/glitches to be ironed out and patched, like what @KathyQ is planning to do.
confirmed godfall launch title at £70, 1 less game to get then, waiting for complete edition with full season pass and price drop. doesn't look that great and definitely not worth the money. plus gearbox is involved, can see how that went with BL3.
o also just to put pricing in pespective, std ps5 £70 pc £50, DE Ps5 £85 pc £66, asc ed ps5 £100 pc £76.
@vindicus1982 I never said they are doing poorly and indicated that it’s definitely greed at play as well.
@KathyQ should have been £85 checked triple editions, there all the same price values being used. so 70, 85, 100.
i would have selected the option "No, because I always buy games physically at less than RRP", and this will continue. i think these prices could halt the rise of digital sales.. in the UK, for AAA games (at least prior to coronavirus), physical sales counted for 70-75%.. i can see this going back up as people make use of the trade-in market more than ever if games are £70.
during PS3, games here used to be £50 RRP, though you could regularly find brand new at £40 and under (though we were benefitting from an exchange rate that was 2:1 with the dollar). for PS4, it was £60.. but pretty easy to buy brand new at £50 and under. i'd expect that trend will continue on PS5, £70 RRP will be retailed at £60 and under (or will be outside of the first month or two of console launch). this is the price you're currently paying for new PS4 games on PSN. i got TLoU2 at launch, day 1, for £41. this is still less than it was on the recent PS store sale.
was checking deals on ps5 games found cod cold war £10 cheaper at £59, always good idea shopping for deals.
I was able to preorder the all digital PS5. I'm a complete newbie never had PS before.
I'm thinking now i might have made a mistake. With the disk version, you will probably be able to find 'used' PS5 games on Ebay/craigslist/FB marketplace in the near future and you'll be able to sell a disk once you have finished playing it.
With the all digital there is none of this. I'll have to get each game from the PS store at full price.
I think in the long run PS5 disk edition might be the more budget friendly version. Am i missing something?
@damianomigani digital can still get deals but less often on ones you want, depends how long you want to wait for them on PSN. ya you save around £100 on console but overall in a life span it isn't alot.
physical version opens you up to more game deals & part exchanges, on top of psn deals.
every game i'v done over the years brought day 1, finished them partx them and got most of the money back only cost me around
£20 a game or less. more you partx end up getting games paying for themselves. then repeat cycle.
For a professional publication, you guys can sure be ignorant sometimes... This is nothing to do with Sony as plenty of Third-parties are also pricing their games the same.
Ill probably keep buying ps4 versions that come with the free ps5 upgrade. It aint worth buying $70 games especially when these companies also want to charge extra for dlc and mucro transactions on top of that.
Ill wait for the inevitable sales after 2 or 3 months.
People who say people are going towards digital and physical should go away but are probably be happy paying full price and getting stuck with a game they dont like.
These new game prices have even put me off buying a next gen console altogether, I'll stick with my PS4 and Xbox One, they both have plenty of life left in them and I have a mountain of game I can still play.
@NYJetsfan123 lots of articles cite this if you paste it in a search engine.
www.vanillaplus.com/2018/07/05/40093-video-games-market-worth-music-movies-combined-arent-csps-launching-games-services/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-46746593
So, multiple sources claim this.
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