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@BAMozzy it's a shame that it's the visuals and not gameplay that drives the industry forward. I think too often games are lauded more for how they look and not how they play, but I agree with a lot of what you say.
Few more pixels, frames and less jaggies (dieting my age there I guess) and a new shiny box and my self restraint goes out the window!

@rjejr A new Zelda and not owning a Wii U is all the persuading I need! If Sony are moving to an incremental upgrade strategy, I may hold off on ps4.325 and get the NX.
Either way, I'm in no rush and will wait and see how they both do. I am unlikely to switch over to Xbox though, my current gen is ps4 and I think persuading people to swap mid generation will be tricky for M-Soft.
I'd duck for cover after that engagement analogy though!

@rjejr is the nx likely to be in competition with an upgraded ps4 though? Are Nintendo aiming to be the 2nd console people buy to play as a handheld and to get their fix of Nintendo only titles?

Personally I try and play one or two games at a time otherwise I lose track of where I am, what the controls are etc. but if external hdd is supported by the competition and easy to accommodate than why not.
I'd love to have more control over my library, the PS Store could be more user friendly and intuitive which goes for a lot of the menus, maybe I'm getting forgetful in my old age but it takes a few too many button presses to get what I'm looking for and doesn't always make sense.

@AG_Awesome Sammy keeps posting pictures of Taylor Swift but I still haven't bought any of her albums, though I might now if it annoys Kanye.
I believe he's only encouraging discussion on an issue.

@adf86 I don't think it's always that a game is indie that causes the uproar but more the gameplay of these games, which can often be more of an acquired taste or alienate the majority of AAA title buyers, who enjoy a lengthy campaign or just don't enjoy the rogue like element that appears in so many offerings?
Me, I try all titles offered, some appeal but most don't. Been playing games for years but must admit the big games have probably left me spoilt when it comes to small budget offerings, but I'm wandering off topic now

Looks like Witcher 3 has outdone Fallout 4 yet again. Enjoy playing both titles but only one do I truly admire.

@sketchturner that's the bit of detail I'd like to know. I don't care how he spends his money but don't understand the need to share videos, doesn't fit with the rest of his spiel

@Tasuki Because people don't own a ps3?

Can you use ps now on ps4 without ps+ as I only pay out of habit, rarely if ever play online mp and haven't been overly impressed with free games since well, forever. Only benefit is the additional discount on store sales makes the odd one competitive.

@BAMozzy I'm not sure it's being retro or nostalgic, more like authentic or true to the original. There is a market for new, traditional 2d platformers, (especially if they borrow metroidvania style, although that's more me) that don't adhere to the latest graphical capabilities. Gameplay is king, sometimes unfortunately it's overlooked.

@Rudy_Manchego It's a scientific fact that this will always be the case

@SKC_Diamond I fear the developer and publisher have only themselves to blame for the high expectations of this game.
Just like numerous games, films and even albums before it, the finished product is going to be tainted and we'll be disappointed even if it is a 10/10

Still got Witcher 3 dlc to play, fallout 4 to finish(if I stick with a character and don't get creators remorse), Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 to get average at (never mind good) so I'm happy to wait off for a price cut.
If Square Enix had pulled a similar stunt with Deus Ex, I'd have also held off on the purchase but they haven't so I won't.

Yes it's only a game and yes, exclusivity deals aren't good for any console but the only way to really show publishers, developers and manufacturers that we're not amused is too hit them where it hurts and that's why I'll wait a few more months, maybe January 2017.

@BAMozzy I'd always thought Assassin's Creed also alternated between different main programming teams?
Was a big fan of their games but unfortunately they took out the bits I enjoyed the most, puzzles & tombs, upgrades that added a slight metroidvania aspect and added too many gimmicks, the social challenges & outfits galore for example. I found the missions difficult to follow and gave up on syndicate if I'm honest. They threw kitchen sink at that game and it was all a bit overwhelming!
Bring back the pirate ship I say.

@professorhat Both use same bandwidth, probably housed in same server rooms.
Films are also cheaper digitally, hd versions also pretty large in download size.
I'm not picking fault with you personally, just can't see why we accept this with game downloads on PlayStation and Xbox, but not PC, music or video downloads?

@professorhat Digital music is cheaper than physical releases in most cases, so why not games?

@SegaBlueSky You're comparing two different markets, both in terms of size and business method. The neo geo games were the cost of a hand held console in today's world but let's not give them any ideas!

The number of times I've had my card details and password ready to take Sony up on these "reduced" prices and then taken one look at the offer and refused to buy purely due to the paltry amount that is discounted.

@Gamer83 Whose E3 presentation should Square Enix have shown what game? Whilst I wasn't impressed with the timed exclusivity deal for Lara's latest gruesome deaths, if it meant the game got funded then so be it.

Always surprises me how many titles are released with little to no announcement or preview. Yes, it would be unrealistic for smaller developers & studios to spend a great deal on advertising campaigns but a few press releases or interviews could really improve the games chances and prevent it going unnoticed.

Haven't noticed any mention of the sudden introduction of immediate payment for pre-orders on the UK PS Store. Has this happened on mainland Europe as I believe it contravenes EU law whilst on the US store it's been common place for a while? Is this a result of referendum outcome?
I'd initially assumed it was solely for pre-orders that include content that can be downloaded ahead of release but nearly all new additions have this new caveat.

@NintendoFan4Lyf I've tried to convince myself to buy a Wii u on numerous occasions, Nintendo have been my "team" since the 90's but money is always the stumbling block unfortunately and they don't seem to lose their value, presumably because the first party games are so good. Went with PS4 this generation (already persuading sensible me that a Neo is more important than food) but still miss the big N magic!

@Feena I've got both demos and thought both had their moments frame rate wise, so don't need to watch a video of the E3 Xbox demo thanks. I'm under no illusion that other games have and still have problems in this area, I can't bear to watch just cause 3 never mind play it some times, but gameplay compensates. The time I've had with FF demos hasn't put my mind at rest and will wait for reviews.
I've got a 1TB hard drive that was recommended performance wise, maybe I've just been unlucky?

@Feena I think you meant to say "almost never fixed" and nothing gameplay wise comes close to matching Witcher 3 thus far. As for Zelda, I'm just gutted it's Nintendo only, could be amazing, concentrating on new (to Zelda) gameplay and systems. Almost close to buying the console for that one game!

@Bad-MuthaAdebisi Light drizzle and sleet but no fog.

@Neolit yeah, I couldn't understand that one either at the time and was surprised how little fight Microsoft put up, was expecting a battle of the corporations.
If your product is going to be on the same shelf, as it were, I get the need for protecting your trademark / copyright but both these disputes had tenuous links at best.
Makes me wonder how the food packaging in lidl gets away with borrowing other brands designs with no arguments.

@Neolit but another lawyer could surely counter by saying that there's a distinction between a space flight exploration game with infinite content and a broadcasting empire with a few new shows and endless adverts.
I had a call from sky ®© this morning asking why I'd decided to not renew my subscription, wish I'd thought of this as a reason like a previous commenter suggested....

@Neolit I can't see the precedent, one is a computer game and the other a broadcasting company. Lawyers gotta get paid I guess!

@Galvatron Agree that some text and even the mini map were pretty tricky to make out on my tv, 44in, but recent patches appear to have made some improvements. Might be worth taking another look assuming you haven't played in a while, or sit closer!

@Riririn We got an EA sale, for a change...

@charlesnarles Played the Doom demo and thought my PS4 was going to either take off or explode, the amount of noise coming from it. Similarly during Witcher 3 and occasionally Bloodborne but never on Netflix, unless you meant using remote play to use the Netflix app?

@Kage_88 I think Nintendo need to start building interest in the NX after disappointing sales of Wii U, whereas Sony don't need to dilute the PS4 brand or confuse potential buyers until they have to.

Sony hold most of the cards this generation, Nintendo just have their character cards left!

One to wait for on PS Plus then and that's not a dig at the game or the service!

@Kamikaze_Krunch Drive Club is certainly a great example of the impact a disastrous launch can have on a games success and the closing of the company is the ultimate price, though I also think the poor handling of the PS Plus version had a small impact also.
So in terms of numbers sold you're probably right but if profits don't take a major hit the practice of patching unfinished or broken games post release will continue. I don't think Battlefield 4 had a good start but that franchise continues.
In short, I feel it's only fair for review scores to reflect the issues the reviewer experienced and a revised score if and when the game is fixed seems sensible.

@carlos82 Bought Bloodborne in the sale and absolutely loving it, even though my actual progress is tortuously slow. One of the only times buying a game as a download has had the positive effect of not being able to give up and trade in as soon as I realise I'm not good immediately! May approach DS3 the same way.

@Kamikaze_Krunch The fact that the practice of releasing half baked games and then patching then post release continues to happen would suggest it doesn't impact sales as much as you'd think.

This may be what you're referring to @Gamer83?

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChineseRoom/status/725958220284465153

@get2sammyb Please don't think I was criticising the review, well written as always (creep), more the concept of 10/10 games. I end up comparing A with B when that's not how it works, my addled mind!

Didn't read as a 10/10 but then that's why I don't agree with scores! Sounds like a good, fun game of its type but I'm not sure I'm willing to pay 40£ and will patiently wait for price to drop.

@aric201812 If you manually search for it or click on title from PlayStation blog it does appear as free (Switch Galaxy that is), but I was also a tad baffled by that Open Me and the fact it was 4.99! But then the PS Store is always a bit eccentric

Really trivial reveals so far, it's like pulling teeth

I wonder what impact this will have on initial sales of the PS5, whenever that may / does happen? Will people be so quick to buy "day 1" or hang back a year or so and see what new, improved version may appear.
The knowledge that your console purchase "future proofed" your gaming needs for 5+ years is a key factor for me and would make me think twice in the future.

Good review, not sure to wait and see if the season pass goes on sale. Are there any plans to improve the games performance that you're aware of? Frame rate is still patchy on my PS4 and loading times are ridiculous!

Enjoying Salt & Sanctuary, even though I'm not making much progress (I'm rubbish), but definitely worth a try!

Having been both alive and playing games in the 80's onwards, I'm not totally sure Broforce would have been anymore than a title in the Mastertronic 199 or 299 range!

@hi_drnick They were probably meant to keep the information to themselves and so the refund has been rescinded!
Not keen on multi-player games being included in IGC as it is little interest to us single player gamers.

@SonyInfinity Because gaming journalism is a new thing and product reviews are a recent development?

@Neolit I agree with you on that, hold off on purchases for first couple of weeks and this culture of review embargoes will swiftly disappear.