I feel the same every time the Free monthly PS plus games get announced.
It doesn't matter how good the games are, even when it includes a AAA title or 2........ You can guarantee that the "no it's a crap selection" runs away with the poll.
People on here are either extremely entitled and difficult to please or they're just completely unrealistic in what they expect from the service
I'm struggling to work out whether you're agreeing with me or disagreeing.
Either way, in answer to your question.... I'd like to think that most serious gamers will have upgraded to PS5 by now.
It won't apply to everyone of course but I'd be willing to bet that an awful lot of Active PS4 users will likely be children who've been given it as a hand me down when Daddy bought a PS5.
As you say though, either way it's still a form of income for Sony so all good I guess
I can see the logic in what you're saying but I have to disagree with the bit about them not caring.
Of course they care .... is it good that people are still spending money on PS4 software? of course it is but would Sony prefer that money to be Spent on PS5 hardware and software if they could have it all their own way? I'm 100% certain they would.
I say this next bit in jest, so please don't take me too seriously but what you said reminds me of Microsoft trying to convince people that they're not bothered about selling Xbox consoles as long as they can sell Game Pass Subscriptions to people.
Here in the UK we definitely used to be able to buy the subscriptions via a code for example on Amazon or Shop to, or CD keys....... As you suggested you could buy the code and keep it to activate it whenever you were ready. The codes were often a lot cheaper than buying directly from the PSN
But Sony seems to have put a stop to all that now, you can only buy PSN store credit via 3rd party retailers now not a subscription.
If I want to buy an actual subscription, the only place I can do that is on the PSN.
If you can still do it the old way wherever you are then you are very lucky and I suggest you make the most of it whilst you still can lol.
The only loophole I can think of for us is that occasionally, Amazon for example will have a sale on where you could buy £100 PSN store credit for £75, you could then use that store credit towards your next subscription.
(Just for reference £100 is equivalent to roughly $125 at current exchange rates)
Happy with Top Spin 2K25, it's one of those games that I was very interested in when it was new but not quite interested enough to pay full price for it.
I had a feeling if I held off long enough it would come to PS Plus in one tier or another
The only one (apart from the more recent PS3 game) I can properly remember was Back to the Future 3, the 1st level was Doc on a horse chasing after Clara before she fell down the ravine.
There was another level where Marty was throwing pies outside of a saloon bar
That was kind of my point though, for whatever reason it never allows me to stack my subscription.
For a bit of context, when the sale was on in January I was on PS Extra.... the only option available to me was to upgrade to PS Premium for the remainder of my subscription.
I had approximately 10 days left and with the discount I could upgrade for something like 33p.
I had to wait for the subscription to expire before it would let me buy a 12 months subscription at the discounted price.
I have now upgraded to Premium as it was only an extra £2 for the year so seemed almost silly not too.
Maybe now that I'm on Premium and I can't go up to a higher tier as such it might let me stack another year next time there's a sale on..... I guess I'll just have to wait and see.
But trust me I tried everything, other than being able to pay 33p to upgrade the last few remaining days it was impossible to do anything else
I'm assuming your comment about "Relying" on a discount is aimed at me.
Let me assure you that in no way do I rely on a discount.... I have enough disposable income to pay for a years subscription at full price should I need too.
I just found it rather annoying that's all..... I'm sure if you gave the majority of sane people the option of paying the normal price of £120 for a years Premium subscription or paying £77 with a 35% discount they would almost certainly choose the discounted price.
Very much a 1st world problem of course but doesn't make it any less annoying if it effects you personally
Sorry but I found your comment to be unnecessarily patronising and insulting
I don't really play online much myself so the reason I pay for PS Plus (Premium) is purely for the games collections.
I do however agree with you that we shouldn't have to pay to play online.
Or at the very very least there should be some sort of PS Plus alternative option where you can pay a small amount for your online play subscription but you don't get the benefits of the free monthly games or extra Bells and whistles.
As I previously said, it's not something I would be interested in as I enjoy having the "Free" games collections but there definitely should be a cheaper "online play only" option for those that want it.
You would think that, but when the sale was on in January it would only let me upgrade for what remained of my contract... (at the time I had about 10 days left)
I had to wait till it expired on 31st January only then would it let me renew for another year with 35% off.
I was fortunate that the sale ran till 5th February
Not good enough Sony..... come on sort it out!!!!!!
Otherwise I want a refund for time lost (even though it's the middle of the night and I wouldn't be playing anyway)
The only reason I know about this is because I just got out of bed to use the toilet and had a quick scroll on my phone..... it's 4am here so I'm going back to sleep
I loved Gran Turismo when it first launched but I fell out of love with it when I tried to delete my progress and start over from the beginning and realised you simply can't do it.
I hadn't played it for over a year and couldn't quite get up to speed with where I was up to so just wanted to delete and start over but for whatever stupid reason they won't let us so until they rectify that I unfortunately won't play it again
Yeah I guess you could read it either way so a bit of clarity would be nice.
Personally though, I'd be amazed if they just suddenly decided to remove all existing PS4 games from the service..... I just can't see the logic in doing that whereas maybe focusing on only adding PS5 games moving forwards does make more sense
The way I read it is that they're not necessarily removing all existing PS4 games..... rather that they just won't really be adding many new ones to the service moving forward.
That was my take on it anyway.... apologies if I've got it wrong
It's great that they're starting to focus more on the PS5 it's just a shame that by the time January 2026 rolls around it will have taken them over 5 years to do it.
I'm afraid I have to disagree, as someone who in that past has owned both consoles (a PS5 and a Series X) I found them at their core to be very similar. I certainly couldn't say that one performed particularly better than the other anyway.
In fairness my way of thinking could well be down to the choice of games that I enjoy..
With the exception of Nintendo and my love for Mario games I'm not massively into any particular what you may call "Console exclusives"
The vast majority of games I play are titles that release on both PlayStation & Xbox ........, EA Sports FC, PGA tour, WRC rally games, WWE 2K just to give you a few examples.
Don't get me wrong there are a couple of exclusives I play, Astro Bot or Gran Turismo 7 off the top of my head, but in the main most of the games I enjoy playing are technically available on either console so when I say they are similar hopefully you can see where I'm coming from.
It just so happens that for whatever reason my Console of choice has always been Playstation
Very true, I was fortunate at one point to own both (as well as a Nintendo Switch)...
Very much a 1st world problem but I almost had too much choice over what to play, there are only so many hours in the day obviously.
I found with the Xbox, once I'd had my fill of the Forza games I was just playing everything else on the PS5 or Switch so I decided to cash in on the Series X whilst it was still worth something.
Back to your point though, yes there really isn't much (if anything) between them.
For whatever reason I just always have preferred to have the Playstation as my main console
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Re: New Tony Hawk's Pro Skater Reveal Teased for 4th March
@Markatron84
I hope you're right (about the Multiplatform bit) and in fairness you probably are.
But I just have this niggling feeling they might make it a timed exclusive now that they own Activision
Re: New Tony Hawk's Pro Skater Reveal Teased for 4th March
I hope it's not Xbox Exclusive
I know like most games it would come to PlayStation eventually but this is something Id really want to play day 1
Re: Rumour: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 + 4 Will Launch on PS5 During Xbox's Summer Showcase
With having a PS Premium subscription and also NSO online it's not very often I buy a game day 1 because I've always got something to play..
However if this turns out to be true I will first in line to buy it
Re: 10 PS5, PS4 Games Removed from PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Month
Nothing of any real concern for me on that list
Re: Free PS Plus Extension for All Members Affected by PSN Outage
@SSaunders1122
Don't worry about deleting any previous comments but I do appreciate your apology.
Sorry for the long winded replies but I just tried my best to explain the situation in detail
Re: Reaction: The PS5 Discourse Around State of Plays Is Becoming Draining
I feel the same every time the Free monthly PS plus games get announced.
It doesn't matter how good the games are, even when it includes a AAA title or 2........ You can guarantee that the "no it's a crap selection" runs away with the poll.
People on here are either extremely entitled and difficult to please or they're just completely unrealistic in what they expect from the service
It's just draining reading constant negativity
Re: PS Plus Members Are Upgrading to Higher Tiers on PS5, PS4
I've just upgraded to Premium as it was on sale (35% off) when my ps Extra subscription ran out at the end of January.
For the year it was only an additional £2 for Premium compared to Extra so it was a no brainer really
It was £77.99 one off payment for PS Premium which I didn't think was too bad
Re: Consoles Are Alive and Well As PS5 Hits Over 75 Million Units Shipped Worldwide
@breakneck
I'm struggling to work out whether you're agreeing with me or disagreeing.
Either way, in answer to your question.... I'd like to think that most serious gamers will have upgraded to PS5 by now.
It won't apply to everyone of course but I'd be willing to bet that an awful lot of Active PS4 users will likely be children who've been given it as a hand me down when Daddy bought a PS5.
As you say though, either way it's still a form of income for Sony so all good I guess
Re: Consoles Are Alive and Well As PS5 Hits Over 75 Million Units Shipped Worldwide
@ChrisDeku
I can see the logic in what you're saying but I have to disagree with the bit about them not caring.
Of course they care .... is it good that people are still spending money on PS4 software? of course it is but would Sony prefer that money to be Spent on PS5 hardware and software if they could have it all their own way? I'm 100% certain they would.
I say this next bit in jest, so please don't take me too seriously but what you said reminds me of Microsoft trying to convince people that they're not bothered about selling Xbox consoles as long as they can sell Game Pass Subscriptions to people.
Re: Consoles Are Alive and Well As PS5 Hits Over 75 Million Units Shipped Worldwide
They'd have probably sold even more if they stopped releasing cross gen games alot sooner
There will be plenty of people who think to themselves "why bother buying a PS5 when I can still play most of the games I want to on my PS4"
Re: Free PS Plus Extension for All Members Affected by PSN Outage
@SSaunders1122
Here in the UK we definitely used to be able to buy the subscriptions via a code for example on Amazon or Shop to, or CD keys....... As you suggested you could buy the code and keep it to activate it whenever you were ready. The codes were often a lot cheaper than buying directly from the PSN
But Sony seems to have put a stop to all that now, you can only buy PSN store credit via 3rd party retailers now not a subscription.
If I want to buy an actual subscription, the only place I can do that is on the PSN.
If you can still do it the old way wherever you are then you are very lucky and I suggest you make the most of it whilst you still can lol.
The only loophole I can think of for us is that occasionally, Amazon for example will have a sale on where you could buy £100 PSN store credit for £75, you could then use that store credit towards your next subscription.
(Just for reference £100 is equivalent to roughly $125 at current exchange rates)
Re: 9 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for February 2025 Announced
Happy with Top Spin 2K25, it's one of those games that I was very interested in when it was new but not quite interested enough to pay full price for it.
I had a feeling if I held off long enough it would come to PS Plus in one tier or another
Re: What Time Is PlayStation's State of Play for February 2025?
I usually come out of these things fairly disappointed.
Probably my own fault for expecting too much sometimes.
Going to try to keep expectations low and then maybe I'll come out being pleasantly surprised
Re: Sony Will Bundle PS5 with 2024's GOTY, Says New Report
@Shredz
Yes I think you are right, I seem to remember the Master System MK1 having Alex the Kidd built in and the MK2 version having Sonic the Hedgehog
Re: Sony Will Bundle PS5 with 2024's GOTY, Says New Report
I'm old enough to remember when a new console pretty much always came bundled with a game, it was very much the norm back then
Mario Bros and Duck Hunt with the NES
Alex the Kidd with the Sega Master system
Super Mario World with the SNES
Good times
Re: PlayStation Users Miffed with Sony's Lack of PSN Outage Transparency
Unless all our data has somehow been compromised then I don't really see it as a major issue.
All companies have IT issues from time to time, it was all back on within 24 hours so hardly the end of the world some are claiming it to be.
***** happens from time to time as they say
Re: Poll: Did the PSN Outage Ruin Your Gaming Plans Over the Weekend?
I was actually away all weekend so it didn't have any effect on me..
I've mentioned it on other related articles but I don't want to be compensated as it will mess up my renewal dates.
So far my renewal date hasn't changed so fingers crossed it stays that way
Re: Great Scott! Back to the Future Co-Creator Says a Brand New Game Is on the Way
@SoulChimera
The only one (apart from the more recent PS3 game) I can properly remember was Back to the Future 3, the 1st level was Doc on a horse chasing after Clara before she fell down the ravine.
There was another level where Marty was throwing pies outside of a saloon bar
Re: Great Scott! Back to the Future Co-Creator Says a Brand New Game Is on the Way
@SJR
Yeah that wasn't bad to be fair, I was referring more to alot of the cash grab NES and old Amiga games (showing my age now haha 😆)
Re: Great Scott! Back to the Future Co-Creator Says a Brand New Game Is on the Way
As a general rule most Back to the Future games have been borderline terrible over the years.
However seeing as it's my favourite film trilogy of all time I can't help but be a little bit excited by this news
Re: PSN Downtime Raises Fresh Questions About PS5's Future Functionality
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare
Noted......
But I want to genuinely assure you that no offence was intended by my initial comment
Re: Free PS Plus Extension for All Members Affected by PSN Outage
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare
That's exactly the situation I was in....I could upgrade to a higher tier with a discount but only for what remained of my subscription.
It wouldn't let me buy another year till the existing one ran out 🙂
Re: PSN Downtime Raises Fresh Questions About PS5's Future Functionality
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare
You're definitely over thinking it dude.
It was intended as a light hearted joke comment..... nothing more...... nothing less
Re: Free PS Plus Extension for All Members Affected by PSN Outage
@SSaunders1122
That was kind of my point though, for whatever reason it never allows me to stack my subscription.
For a bit of context, when the sale was on in January I was on PS Extra.... the only option available to me was to upgrade to PS Premium for the remainder of my subscription.
I had approximately 10 days left and with the discount I could upgrade for something like 33p.
I had to wait for the subscription to expire before it would let me buy a 12 months subscription at the discounted price.
I have now upgraded to Premium as it was only an extra £2 for the year so seemed almost silly not too.
Maybe now that I'm on Premium and I can't go up to a higher tier as such it might let me stack another year next time there's a sale on..... I guess I'll just have to wait and see.
But trust me I tried everything, other than being able to pay 33p to upgrade the last few remaining days it was impossible to do anything else
Re: PSN Downtime Raises Fresh Questions About PS5's Future Functionality
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare
Dude.... it was just a light hearted joke comment.
Don't take everything so seriously Bro
Re: Free PS Plus Extension for All Members Affected by PSN Outage
@breakneck
I'm assuming your comment about "Relying" on a discount is aimed at me.
Let me assure you that in no way do I rely on a discount.... I have enough disposable income to pay for a years subscription at full price should I need too.
I just found it rather annoying that's all..... I'm sure if you gave the majority of sane people the option of paying the normal price of £120 for a years Premium subscription or paying £77 with a 35% discount they would almost certainly choose the discounted price.
Very much a 1st world problem of course but doesn't make it any less annoying if it effects you personally
Sorry but I found your comment to be unnecessarily patronising and insulting
Re: Free PS Plus Extension for All Members Affected by PSN Outage
@nomither6
I don't really play online much myself so the reason I pay for PS Plus (Premium) is purely for the games collections.
I do however agree with you that we shouldn't have to pay to play online.
Or at the very very least there should be some sort of PS Plus alternative option where you can pay a small amount for your online play subscription but you don't get the benefits of the free monthly games or extra Bells and whistles.
As I previously said, it's not something I would be interested in as I enjoy having the "Free" games collections but there definitely should be a cheaper "online play only" option for those that want it.
Re: PSN Downtime Raises Fresh Questions About PS5's Future Functionality
Argh .... 1st world problems
Re: Free PS Plus Extension for All Members Affected by PSN Outage
@get2sammyb @Yaycandy
You would think that, but when the sale was on in January it would only let me upgrade for what remained of my contract... (at the time I had about 10 days left)
I had to wait till it expired on 31st January only then would it let me renew for another year with 35% off.
I was fortunate that the sale ran till 5th February
Re: Free PS Plus Extension for All Members Affected by PSN Outage
Is there any way to opt out?
I've timed my renewals to perfection for the last few years so that it renews when they have a 35% - 40% off sale
With these extra 5 days it'll probably take me over the sale period and I'll potentially have to renew at full price next January
Re: PSN Down as PS5, PS4 Players Can't Log In or Play Online
Not good enough Sony..... come on sort it out!!!!!!
Otherwise I want a refund for time lost (even though it's the middle of the night and I wouldn't be playing anyway)
The only reason I know about this is because I just got out of bed to use the toilet and had a quick scroll on my phone..... it's 4am here so I'm going back to sleep
Re: GTA 6 Publisher Reiterates a Fall 2025 Release Window
I'd rather they release it when it's 100% ready than rush it out to appease their shareholders.
That said, if the rumoured £100 price tag turns out to be true I won't be buying it anyway.
Never in my life have I paid more than £60 for a game and I can't see that changing any time soon.
I'll happily wait for it to go on sale
Re: February 2025 PS Plus Essential Games Available Now
Will definitely give Pac Man a try
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Says Sony 'Can't Get Away' with a PS6 That Has No Disc Drive
I agree that it's still too soon.
Don't get me wrong, I do believe that we are heading that way eventually but it's too soon for the PS6 to just abandon physical media
Re: Reminder: Redeem These 3 PS Plus Games Before They're Gone
I've redeemed Hot Pursuit but I'm not going to bother with the other 2 as I know for a fact I'd never play them
Re: Some Think GTA 6's Multiplayer Mode Could Be Sold Separately on PS5
Obviously just a rumour at this point but if it were to be true I'd be totally on board with it.
I have Zero interest in the Online side of the game so if it keeps the cost of the main game down then that can only be a good thing
Re: Halo PS5 Rumours Intensify in Aftermath of Forza Horizon 5 Reveal
@RiverGenie
Yeah I've heard that's a possibility.... it just seems like too much effort to do something that in theory at least should be straight forward...
Delete progress..... start again from the beginning.....
It's borderline criminal that they've made it so difficult
Re: Poll: Are You Buying Forza Horizon 5 on PS5?
I have selected yes but that may change if it turns out to be a Switch 2 launch title.
I'd prefer to have something to play on my shiney new console.
Re: Halo PS5 Rumours Intensify in Aftermath of Forza Horizon 5 Reveal
@get2sammyb
I loved Gran Turismo when it first launched but I fell out of love with it when I tried to delete my progress and start over from the beginning and realised you simply can't do it.
I hadn't played it for over a year and couldn't quite get up to speed with where I was up to so just wanted to delete and start over but for whatever stupid reason they won't let us so until they rectify that I unfortunately won't play it again
Re: Halo PS5 Rumours Intensify in Aftermath of Forza Horizon 5 Reveal
I only wanted The Forza games and we got one, I don't personally have any interest in their other stuff.
I know due to licensing issues Forza Horizon 1-4 will likely never happen as they're not even available on Xbox anymore.
So the only other game I want from them is Forza Motorsport
Re: Forza Horizon 5 Confirmed for PS5, Out This Spring
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the one I've been waiting for, it's the only thing I miss about previously owning an Xbox Series X
I wonder if it will get haptic feedback support
Re: Sony to Mostly Drop PS4 Games from PS Plus Starting January 2026
@TheFakulty
Yeah I guess you could read it either way so a bit of clarity would be nice.
Personally though, I'd be amazed if they just suddenly decided to remove all existing PS4 games from the service..... I just can't see the logic in doing that whereas maybe focusing on only adding PS5 games moving forwards does make more sense
Re: Sony to Mostly Drop PS4 Games from PS Plus Starting January 2026
@TheFakulty
The way I read it is that they're not necessarily removing all existing PS4 games..... rather that they just won't really be adding many new ones to the service moving forward.
That was my take on it anyway.... apologies if I've got it wrong
Re: Sony to Mostly Drop PS4 Games from PS Plus Starting January 2026
@WiiWareWave
I understand what you're saying but at some point, support for the PS4 has to stop, it can't go on forever.
In January 2026 PS4 will be approaching 13 years old !!!
Re: Sony to Mostly Drop PS4 Games from PS Plus Starting January 2026
@HeeHo
Or maybe it might just give a few people the push that they need to finally upgrade to a PS5
I'm Just playing devil's advocate by the way
Re: Sony to Mostly Drop PS4 Games from PS Plus Starting January 2026
It's great that they're starting to focus more on the PS5 it's just a shame that by the time January 2026 rolls around it will have taken them over 5 years to do it.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for February 2025 Announced
Never heard of high on life so would need to know more about it.
Very happy with the other 2 offerings though
Re: Xbox Boss Wants to Beat PS6 on Hardware Capabilities, Not Necessarily Games
@Cutmastavictory
I'm afraid I have to disagree, as someone who in that past has owned both consoles (a PS5 and a Series X) I found them at their core to be very similar. I certainly couldn't say that one performed particularly better than the other anyway.
In fairness my way of thinking could well be down to the choice of games that I enjoy..
With the exception of Nintendo and my love for Mario games I'm not massively into any particular what you may call "Console exclusives"
The vast majority of games I play are titles that release on both PlayStation & Xbox ........, EA Sports FC, PGA tour, WRC rally games, WWE 2K just to give you a few examples.
Don't get me wrong there are a couple of exclusives I play, Astro Bot or Gran Turismo 7 off the top of my head, but in the main most of the games I enjoy playing are technically available on either console so when I say they are similar hopefully you can see where I'm coming from.
It just so happens that for whatever reason my Console of choice has always been Playstation
Re: $100 for GTA 6 Is 'A Bridge Too Far' Even for Rockstar, Says Analyst
I've never once paid £70 for a game, no way am I dropping £100
I don't care what the game is, I'll wait till it goes on sale
Re: Xbox Boss Wants to Beat PS6 on Hardware Capabilities, Not Necessarily Games
@Nepp67
Very true, I was fortunate at one point to own both (as well as a Nintendo Switch)...
Very much a 1st world problem but I almost had too much choice over what to play, there are only so many hours in the day obviously.
I found with the Xbox, once I'd had my fill of the Forza games I was just playing everything else on the PS5 or Switch so I decided to cash in on the Series X whilst it was still worth something.
Back to your point though, yes there really isn't much (if anything) between them.
For whatever reason I just always have preferred to have the Playstation as my main console