I'm probably in a minority here but I really disliked the open world style Underground games, I always preferred the 2 minute format of the first few Pro Skater games.
So I see this as a positive thing.
TBH I would have been happy either way as I'm just pleased to be getting some new Tony Hawks games, but yeah I definitely don't feel it's a bad thing
I think they need too, releasing their consoles at the same time as Playstation (give or take a few weeks) just hasn't worked for them these last few generations.
If they release on their time own a few years apart like Nintendo generally do then their new console will get more of the spot light and will be the latest piece of tech on its own instead of competing.
The way I see it, it's like having 5 children, obviously you love them all in their own way but you'll probably (secretly) have a favourite and least favourite.
If I we're to give you my order of preference it would be:
PS5
PS1
PS2
PS4
PS3
I guess I've listed them in the order that gave me the most enjoyment.
The PS5 is just a very good all rounder that does everything well
I think the PS3 was at a time in my life when I was out doing other things instead of gaming, also I had an Xbox 360 as well which I thought was the better console.
The one and only time I've preferred Xbox to PlayStation
I was lucky enough to be a day one adopter of the PS2. I still remember picking up my pre order from Electronics Boutique and proudly walking through town with it.
Thinking about it, it was probably the first console I actually bought with my own hard earned money.
Any consoles I had before that we're bought for me as either Christmas / Birthday's presents
My existing subscription expired on 31st January, prior to that the only thing I could do was upgrade my Extra subscription to Premium....It was roughly about 35p to upgrade for the remaining 10 days
I had to wait for the subscription to expire before it would offer me a 12 month plan at the discounted price
Yeah as you say, it's not the end of the world, just annoying as I'd purposely timed it so that it always expired when the sale was on. These extra days will probably take me past the sale period.
It wouldn't be so bad if you could stack the subscription as people were suggesting last time but Sony seem to have put a stop to that.
The sale prices are either for new subscriptions or to upgrade from one tier to a higher one
Just checked, mine's been added even though I wasn't affected by the outage (I was away that weekend)
I wish there was an option to opt out instead of it just automatically being added on, it's messed up my renewal dates now and I'll probably miss out on the January PS plus sale next year
I renewed my Subscription when it was 35% off so assuming there's a similar sale next year, these extra 5 days that I've been "gifted" will potentially cost me an extra £35 - £40 when / if I come to renew next time
I did play 3&4 back in the day but I definitely sunk alot more time into 1&2.
I was slightly older by the time 3&4 released, so it was a time of my life where I was more interested in going out than playing video games.
They will almost feel like new games to me, I do remember playing and enjoying them but I can't really remember any specific level's, whereas 1&2 I did remember the majority of the levels
PS4 Pro was only £50 more than the base model so it was very much affordable to anyone who wanted to treat themselves or just spend that little bit extra.
Assuming you only want the digital version, the PS5 Pro is more or less double the price of the standard PS5.
Once the diehards who simply have to have the latest tech regardless of cost have bought one, it's a hard sell to you're average consumer
I feel the same every time the Free monthly PS plus games get announced.
It doesn't matter how good the games are, even when it includes a AAA title or 2........ You can guarantee that the "no it's a crap selection" runs away with the poll.
People on here are either extremely entitled and difficult to please or they're just completely unrealistic in what they expect from the service
I'm struggling to work out whether you're agreeing with me or disagreeing.
Either way, in answer to your question.... I'd like to think that most serious gamers will have upgraded to PS5 by now.
It won't apply to everyone of course but I'd be willing to bet that an awful lot of Active PS4 users will likely be children who've been given it as a hand me down when Daddy bought a PS5.
As you say though, either way it's still a form of income for Sony so all good I guess
I can see the logic in what you're saying but I have to disagree with the bit about them not caring.
Of course they care .... is it good that people are still spending money on PS4 software? of course it is but would Sony prefer that money to be Spent on PS5 hardware and software if they could have it all their own way? I'm 100% certain they would.
I say this next bit in jest, so please don't take me too seriously but what you said reminds me of Microsoft trying to convince people that they're not bothered about selling Xbox consoles as long as they can sell Game Pass Subscriptions to people.
Here in the UK we definitely used to be able to buy the subscriptions via a code for example on Amazon or Shop to, or CD keys....... As you suggested you could buy the code and keep it to activate it whenever you were ready. The codes were often a lot cheaper than buying directly from the PSN
But Sony seems to have put a stop to all that now, you can only buy PSN store credit via 3rd party retailers now not a subscription.
If I want to buy an actual subscription, the only place I can do that is on the PSN.
If you can still do it the old way wherever you are then you are very lucky and I suggest you make the most of it whilst you still can lol.
The only loophole I can think of for us is that occasionally, Amazon for example will have a sale on where you could buy £100 PSN store credit for £75, you could then use that store credit towards your next subscription.
(Just for reference £100 is equivalent to roughly $125 at current exchange rates)
Happy with Top Spin 2K25, it's one of those games that I was very interested in when it was new but not quite interested enough to pay full price for it.
I had a feeling if I held off long enough it would come to PS Plus in one tier or another
The only one (apart from the more recent PS3 game) I can properly remember was Back to the Future 3, the 1st level was Doc on a horse chasing after Clara before she fell down the ravine.
There was another level where Marty was throwing pies outside of a saloon bar
That was kind of my point though, for whatever reason it never allows me to stack my subscription.
For a bit of context, when the sale was on in January I was on PS Extra.... the only option available to me was to upgrade to PS Premium for the remainder of my subscription.
I had approximately 10 days left and with the discount I could upgrade for something like 33p.
I had to wait for the subscription to expire before it would let me buy a 12 months subscription at the discounted price.
I have now upgraded to Premium as it was only an extra £2 for the year so seemed almost silly not too.
Maybe now that I'm on Premium and I can't go up to a higher tier as such it might let me stack another year next time there's a sale on..... I guess I'll just have to wait and see.
But trust me I tried everything, other than being able to pay 33p to upgrade the last few remaining days it was impossible to do anything else
I'm assuming your comment about "Relying" on a discount is aimed at me.
Let me assure you that in no way do I rely on a discount.... I have enough disposable income to pay for a years subscription at full price should I need too.
I just found it rather annoying that's all..... I'm sure if you gave the majority of sane people the option of paying the normal price of £120 for a years Premium subscription or paying £77 with a 35% discount they would almost certainly choose the discounted price.
Very much a 1st world problem of course but doesn't make it any less annoying if it effects you personally
Sorry but I found your comment to be unnecessarily patronising and insulting
I don't really play online much myself so the reason I pay for PS Plus (Premium) is purely for the games collections.
I do however agree with you that we shouldn't have to pay to play online.
Or at the very very least there should be some sort of PS Plus alternative option where you can pay a small amount for your online play subscription but you don't get the benefits of the free monthly games or extra Bells and whistles.
As I previously said, it's not something I would be interested in as I enjoy having the "Free" games collections but there definitely should be a cheaper "online play only" option for those that want it.
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Re: April Could Be a Colossal Month from Xbox on PS5
Only really interested in Forza Horizon 5, I've already traded in my copy of The Crew Motorfest as it will be completely redundant now.
Motorfest was a decent game but just didn't quite hit the same as Forza
Re: Skate PS5 Isn't Even Out Yet, But It Already Has Microtransactions
You can't spell the word Greasy without EA
Re: PS5 and Astro Bot the Perfect Match in New Console Bundle
Disappointing that it's only available in the US
Re: Activision Confirms Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4 Won't Be Free Roam on PS5, PS4
I'm probably in a minority here but I really disliked the open world style Underground games, I always preferred the 2 minute format of the first few Pro Skater games.
So I see this as a positive thing.
TBH I would have been happy either way as I'm just pleased to be getting some new Tony Hawks games, but yeah I definitely don't feel it's a bad thing
Re: Astro Bot PS5 Up for 8 BAFTA Awards, Including Best Game
@Jayslow
If I see the letters JRPG or even just RPG associated with any game it's an instant red flag.
Just my own opinion but I absolutely hate those types of games
Re: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 + 4 Is Finally Official, Ollies onto PS5, PS4 This Summer
Was hoping it might be sooner but it gives me chance to play through 1 & 2 again
Re: Sonic Colors: Ultimate (PS4) - One of the Better 3D Sonic Titles Still Has All the Classic Issues
Anyone else here reading this because it's free on PS plus this month or just me??? 🤣🤣
Re: Could the Next Xbox Get a Head Start on PS6?
I think they need too, releasing their consoles at the same time as Playstation (give or take a few weeks) just hasn't worked for them these last few generations.
If they release on their time own a few years apart like Nintendo generally do then their new console will get more of the spot light and will be the latest piece of tech on its own instead of competing.
Re: PS2, the Most Popular Console Ever, Celebrates Its 25th Anniversary
@nomither6
The way I see it, it's like having 5 children, obviously you love them all in their own way but you'll probably (secretly) have a favourite and least favourite.
If I we're to give you my order of preference it would be:
PS5
PS1
PS2
PS4
PS3
I guess I've listed them in the order that gave me the most enjoyment.
The PS5 is just a very good all rounder that does everything well
I think the PS3 was at a time in my life when I was out doing other things instead of gaming, also I had an Xbox 360 as well which I thought was the better console.
The one and only time I've preferred Xbox to PlayStation
Re: PS2, the Most Popular Console Ever, Celebrates Its 25th Anniversary
@nomither6
Interestingly enough if I listed my favourite PS consoles from best to worst my list would more or less be the exact opposite of yours 🤣🤣
The PS3 is safely my least favourite
Re: PS2, the Most Popular Console Ever, Celebrates Its 25th Anniversary
@Ilyn
Haha yeah I know what you mean, that awful fear of being mugged.
On the flip side though waiting in for something to be delivered can be just as agonising.
My next purchase will be a Nintendo Switch 2, ideally I'll pre order it from Smyths meaning I can collect it myself and park right outside the door
Re: PS2, the Most Popular Console Ever, Celebrates Its 25th Anniversary
I was lucky enough to be a day one adopter of the PS2. I still remember picking up my pre order from Electronics Boutique and proudly walking through town with it.
Thinking about it, it was probably the first console I actually bought with my own hard earned money.
Any consoles I had before that we're bought for me as either Christmas / Birthday's presents
Re: Blurred Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 + 4 Art Leaks Ahead of Reveal
I'm probably more excited for this than most games I can think of in the recent past.
Tony Hawks Pro Skater 1-4 (1&2) in particular were the highlight of my teenage gaming years
I never really took to the more open world style in Underground, American wasteland Project 8 etc.
For my money the Peak of Tony Hawks games were 1-4 Pro skater (Just my own personal opinion obviously)
Re: Free PS Plus Compensation for Recent PSN Downtime Is Being Issued Now
@The_Pixel_King
Definitely couldn't back in January.
My existing subscription expired on 31st January, prior to that the only thing I could do was upgrade my Extra subscription to Premium....It was roughly about 35p to upgrade for the remaining 10 days
I had to wait for the subscription to expire before it would offer me a 12 month plan at the discounted price
Re: Free PS Plus Compensation for Recent PSN Downtime Is Being Issued Now
@QualityGeezer
Yeah as you say, it's not the end of the world, just annoying as I'd purposely timed it so that it always expired when the sale was on. These extra days will probably take me past the sale period.
It wouldn't be so bad if you could stack the subscription as people were suggesting last time but Sony seem to have put a stop to that.
The sale prices are either for new subscriptions or to upgrade from one tier to a higher one
Re: Free PS Plus Compensation for Recent PSN Downtime Is Being Issued Now
Just checked, mine's been added even though I wasn't affected by the outage (I was away that weekend)
I wish there was an option to opt out instead of it just automatically being added on, it's messed up my renewal dates now and I'll probably miss out on the January PS plus sale next year
I renewed my Subscription when it was 35% off so assuming there's a similar sale next year, these extra 5 days that I've been "gifted" will potentially cost me an extra £35 - £40 when / if I come to renew next time
Re: Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 Snatches April Release Date on PS5, Priced at $60
@EfYI
I'm pretty sure you can Race in vehicles in Mario Kart that go "Vroom Vroom"
Shall we start comparing that to GT7 as well?
Re: Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 Snatches April Release Date on PS5, Priced at $60
@EfYI
Forza Horizon and GT7 are completely different games. Forza Horizon is an open world arcade style racer.
If it were Forza Motorsport that was being released then you're statement would possibly be more relevant
Re: Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 Snatches April Release Date on PS5, Priced at $60
Didn't realise it was only available in the USA.
Gutted
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for March 2025 Announced
Cowabunga collection is worth it just for Turtles in time
Re: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 + 4 Ollies Singaporean Ratings Board
Very excited (if it turns out to be real)
I did play 3&4 back in the day but I definitely sunk alot more time into 1&2.
I was slightly older by the time 3&4 released, so it was a time of my life where I was more interested in going out than playing video games.
They will almost feel like new games to me, I do remember playing and enjoying them but I can't really remember any specific level's, whereas 1&2 I did remember the majority of the levels
Re: Breakout Beyond Brings Brick-Breaking Back on PS5, PS4 Next Month
@joey302
Switch 2 might just have the solution for that
Re: Sony's Pricey PS5 Pro Is Now Being Outpaced by PS4 Pro Launch Aligned in the US
PS4 Pro was only £50 more than the base model so it was very much affordable to anyone who wanted to treat themselves or just spend that little bit extra.
Assuming you only want the digital version, the PS5 Pro is more or less double the price of the standard PS5.
Once the diehards who simply have to have the latest tech regardless of cost have bought one, it's a hard sell to you're average consumer
Re: New Tony Hawk's Pro Skater Reveal Teased for 4th March
@Markatron84
I hope you're right (about the Multiplatform bit) and in fairness you probably are.
But I just have this niggling feeling they might make it a timed exclusive now that they own Activision
Re: New Tony Hawk's Pro Skater Reveal Teased for 4th March
I hope it's not Xbox Exclusive
I know like most games it would come to PlayStation eventually but this is something Id really want to play day 1
Re: Rumour: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 + 4 Will Launch on PS5 During Xbox's Summer Showcase
With having a PS Premium subscription and also NSO online it's not very often I buy a game day 1 because I've always got something to play..
However if this turns out to be true I will first in line to buy it
Re: 10 PS5, PS4 Games Removed from PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Month
Nothing of any real concern for me on that list
Re: Free PS Plus Extension for All Members Affected by PSN Outage
@SSaunders1122
Don't worry about deleting any previous comments but I do appreciate your apology.
Sorry for the long winded replies but I just tried my best to explain the situation in detail
Re: Reaction: The PS5 Discourse Around State of Plays Is Becoming Draining
I feel the same every time the Free monthly PS plus games get announced.
It doesn't matter how good the games are, even when it includes a AAA title or 2........ You can guarantee that the "no it's a crap selection" runs away with the poll.
People on here are either extremely entitled and difficult to please or they're just completely unrealistic in what they expect from the service
It's just draining reading constant negativity
Re: PS Plus Members Are Upgrading to Higher Tiers on PS5, PS4
I've just upgraded to Premium as it was on sale (35% off) when my ps Extra subscription ran out at the end of January.
For the year it was only an additional £2 for Premium compared to Extra so it was a no brainer really
It was £77.99 one off payment for PS Premium which I didn't think was too bad
Re: Consoles Are Alive and Well As PS5 Hits Over 75 Million Units Shipped Worldwide
@breakneck
I'm struggling to work out whether you're agreeing with me or disagreeing.
Either way, in answer to your question.... I'd like to think that most serious gamers will have upgraded to PS5 by now.
It won't apply to everyone of course but I'd be willing to bet that an awful lot of Active PS4 users will likely be children who've been given it as a hand me down when Daddy bought a PS5.
As you say though, either way it's still a form of income for Sony so all good I guess
Re: Consoles Are Alive and Well As PS5 Hits Over 75 Million Units Shipped Worldwide
@ChrisDeku
I can see the logic in what you're saying but I have to disagree with the bit about them not caring.
Of course they care .... is it good that people are still spending money on PS4 software? of course it is but would Sony prefer that money to be Spent on PS5 hardware and software if they could have it all their own way? I'm 100% certain they would.
I say this next bit in jest, so please don't take me too seriously but what you said reminds me of Microsoft trying to convince people that they're not bothered about selling Xbox consoles as long as they can sell Game Pass Subscriptions to people.
Re: Consoles Are Alive and Well As PS5 Hits Over 75 Million Units Shipped Worldwide
They'd have probably sold even more if they stopped releasing cross gen games alot sooner
There will be plenty of people who think to themselves "why bother buying a PS5 when I can still play most of the games I want to on my PS4"
Re: Free PS Plus Extension for All Members Affected by PSN Outage
@SSaunders1122
Here in the UK we definitely used to be able to buy the subscriptions via a code for example on Amazon or Shop to, or CD keys....... As you suggested you could buy the code and keep it to activate it whenever you were ready. The codes were often a lot cheaper than buying directly from the PSN
But Sony seems to have put a stop to all that now, you can only buy PSN store credit via 3rd party retailers now not a subscription.
If I want to buy an actual subscription, the only place I can do that is on the PSN.
If you can still do it the old way wherever you are then you are very lucky and I suggest you make the most of it whilst you still can lol.
The only loophole I can think of for us is that occasionally, Amazon for example will have a sale on where you could buy £100 PSN store credit for £75, you could then use that store credit towards your next subscription.
(Just for reference £100 is equivalent to roughly $125 at current exchange rates)
Re: 9 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for February 2025 Announced
Happy with Top Spin 2K25, it's one of those games that I was very interested in when it was new but not quite interested enough to pay full price for it.
I had a feeling if I held off long enough it would come to PS Plus in one tier or another
Re: What Time Is PlayStation's State of Play for February 2025?
I usually come out of these things fairly disappointed.
Probably my own fault for expecting too much sometimes.
Going to try to keep expectations low and then maybe I'll come out being pleasantly surprised
Re: Sony Will Bundle PS5 with 2024's GOTY, Says New Report
@Shredz
Yes I think you are right, I seem to remember the Master System MK1 having Alex the Kidd built in and the MK2 version having Sonic the Hedgehog
Re: Sony Will Bundle PS5 with 2024's GOTY, Says New Report
I'm old enough to remember when a new console pretty much always came bundled with a game, it was very much the norm back then
Mario Bros and Duck Hunt with the NES
Alex the Kidd with the Sega Master system
Super Mario World with the SNES
Good times
Re: PlayStation Users Miffed with Sony's Lack of PSN Outage Transparency
Unless all our data has somehow been compromised then I don't really see it as a major issue.
All companies have IT issues from time to time, it was all back on within 24 hours so hardly the end of the world some are claiming it to be.
***** happens from time to time as they say
Re: Poll: Did the PSN Outage Ruin Your Gaming Plans Over the Weekend?
I was actually away all weekend so it didn't have any effect on me..
I've mentioned it on other related articles but I don't want to be compensated as it will mess up my renewal dates.
So far my renewal date hasn't changed so fingers crossed it stays that way
Re: Great Scott! Back to the Future Co-Creator Says a Brand New Game Is on the Way
@SoulChimera
The only one (apart from the more recent PS3 game) I can properly remember was Back to the Future 3, the 1st level was Doc on a horse chasing after Clara before she fell down the ravine.
There was another level where Marty was throwing pies outside of a saloon bar
Re: Great Scott! Back to the Future Co-Creator Says a Brand New Game Is on the Way
@SJR
Yeah that wasn't bad to be fair, I was referring more to alot of the cash grab NES and old Amiga games (showing my age now haha 😆)
Re: Great Scott! Back to the Future Co-Creator Says a Brand New Game Is on the Way
As a general rule most Back to the Future games have been borderline terrible over the years.
However seeing as it's my favourite film trilogy of all time I can't help but be a little bit excited by this news
Re: PSN Downtime Raises Fresh Questions About PS5's Future Functionality
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare
Noted......
But I want to genuinely assure you that no offence was intended by my initial comment
Re: Free PS Plus Extension for All Members Affected by PSN Outage
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare
That's exactly the situation I was in....I could upgrade to a higher tier with a discount but only for what remained of my subscription.
It wouldn't let me buy another year till the existing one ran out 🙂
Re: PSN Downtime Raises Fresh Questions About PS5's Future Functionality
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare
You're definitely over thinking it dude.
It was intended as a light hearted joke comment..... nothing more...... nothing less
Re: Free PS Plus Extension for All Members Affected by PSN Outage
@SSaunders1122
That was kind of my point though, for whatever reason it never allows me to stack my subscription.
For a bit of context, when the sale was on in January I was on PS Extra.... the only option available to me was to upgrade to PS Premium for the remainder of my subscription.
I had approximately 10 days left and with the discount I could upgrade for something like 33p.
I had to wait for the subscription to expire before it would let me buy a 12 months subscription at the discounted price.
I have now upgraded to Premium as it was only an extra £2 for the year so seemed almost silly not too.
Maybe now that I'm on Premium and I can't go up to a higher tier as such it might let me stack another year next time there's a sale on..... I guess I'll just have to wait and see.
But trust me I tried everything, other than being able to pay 33p to upgrade the last few remaining days it was impossible to do anything else
Re: PSN Downtime Raises Fresh Questions About PS5's Future Functionality
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare
Dude.... it was just a light hearted joke comment.
Don't take everything so seriously Bro
Re: Free PS Plus Extension for All Members Affected by PSN Outage
@breakneck
I'm assuming your comment about "Relying" on a discount is aimed at me.
Let me assure you that in no way do I rely on a discount.... I have enough disposable income to pay for a years subscription at full price should I need too.
I just found it rather annoying that's all..... I'm sure if you gave the majority of sane people the option of paying the normal price of £120 for a years Premium subscription or paying £77 with a 35% discount they would almost certainly choose the discounted price.
Very much a 1st world problem of course but doesn't make it any less annoying if it effects you personally
Sorry but I found your comment to be unnecessarily patronising and insulting
Re: Free PS Plus Extension for All Members Affected by PSN Outage
@nomither6
I don't really play online much myself so the reason I pay for PS Plus (Premium) is purely for the games collections.
I do however agree with you that we shouldn't have to pay to play online.
Or at the very very least there should be some sort of PS Plus alternative option where you can pay a small amount for your online play subscription but you don't get the benefits of the free monthly games or extra Bells and whistles.
As I previously said, it's not something I would be interested in as I enjoy having the "Free" games collections but there definitely should be a cheaper "online play only" option for those that want it.