I hope you understand that I'm not disagreeing with you as such.
I'm just pointing out that pretty much not a single person would have saw the box on the shelf and saw the 8k logo and thought "ooooh, I must get myself one of them because it supports 8k"
They bought it because it was a PS5 and would have been buying one regardless of what it claimed on the box
Yeah admittedly the last free world cup update we got did feel like something was missing so I know what you mean.
That said though I still never thought it was worth a full priced release, it was essentially the same game just with National squads. Maybe worth picking up if you hadn't already bought the main game
I know some smart arse (and I dont mean yourself) will come back with "Huh, FIFA is basically the same game released every year so what difference does it make"
I am subscribed to Extra but only because it was on sale for the same price as Essential so it was a no brainer.
If I'm honest I probably don't use it as much as I should but it is kind of nice knowing that I have access to all those games if and when I want them.
Also, £60 - £65 a year is hardly going to break the bank
I didn't realise it till the other day when I looked at my games collection, but I don't really play many 1st party Playstation exclusive games.
Not everything obviously but the vast majority of my games are multi platform Sports games or Racing games that could technically be played on either console.
I don't know what it is though, I just always have and always will prefer to play them on Playstation.
I guess at heart I'm more into Nintendo exclusives than anything else, but Nintendo always pump out under powered consoles so playing EA Sports FC24 as an example on the Switch just doesn't quite cut it.
Yeah with the benefit of hindsight, part of me wishes that I'd kept it...... At the time though, it was alot of money to just potentially write off for something that might never work the way I wanted it too, I just thought it was best to get rid of it whilst it was still in high demand.
I didn't sell it for a profit as I hate scalpers who do that sort of thing... I was happy to just get back what I paid for it and break even.
I love a good Racing game, as much as I prefer them to look nice and pretty, at the end of the day it comes down the the physics and how the cars handle.
If the handling is top draw I can look past the graphical side of things.
The only Xbox Franchise I'm genuinely interested in is the Forza games. I just have no interest in any of their other so called big hitters.
The Crew Motorfest is a decent and thoroughly enjoyable game but it still doesn't quite match up to the Brilliance of Forza horizon (insert any number here)
For what it's worth, I do agree with you, it's not a good thing and I'd very much prefer it not to happen given the choice..... I just don't see it as that big of a deal with a game like this one.
Now if you told me in 10 years time all my Mario games would suddenly be unplayable I'd be devastated lol.
I've been doing a little bit of research in the case of this particular game.
The online only aspect only seems to apply to the My Career mode.
If there servers are down (or if indeed shut down altogether one day) then you can still play the game locally with a friend or against the AI
And there is every chance it may be patched in the future so that the My Career mode will still work
I agree it's obviously not good and it definitely shouldn't happen
The only thing I will say it that The Crew is a 10 year old game, so it's not quite the useless after 2 years that Psboxswitchowner was trying to claim.
In fairness I very much doubt that in 10 years time I'll still be wanting to play TopSpin 2K25, I'll probably be playing whatever the latest version is, so again I just don't see it as that big of a deal.
Just my opinion obviously, not suggesting that I'm right and your wrong.... just explaining why it doesn't bother me so much
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but at no point have I "not allowed you to have an opinion"
I've simply pointed out to you, that your logic of saying, "if somebody wanted a particular game they would already have it", could be applied to literally any game given away on PS Plus and I firmly stand by that point
I'm not a new kid though (unfortunately for me 🤣)
Born in 82 so grew up in the 90's you could say.
I get that the kidz of today probably wouldn't like it but I grew up playing them.
Don't get me wrong I love a bit of retro gaming, but football games in particular from back then just haven't aged very well I don't think.
The only Football game from back in the day that I can still play and enjoy is Sensible Soccer, always had a soft spot for that one, despite how terrible it looks 😃
I've read your post a few times and I'm still unsure if your agreeing or disagreeing with me.
Personally though, I don't mind COD games, I enjoy them but it's not something I enjoy enough to to shell out £70 a year on (basically because Im just not very good at it haha). I guess you could call me a casual COD fan.
So if and when one gets given away on PS plus, that suits me just fine.
And for me at least that's what PS plus is all about.
I don't expect every single game given away to by at the top of my shopping list but even if I get 5-6 games a year that I really like from it, then for me it's worth the subscription price
Whether there's a new game every 12 months or every 5 years is irrelevant.
My point was that you said if people want it, they'd already have it. Well you could say exactly the same thing about Horizon, or pretty much any game for that matter.
I'm going to assume you just don't like football in which case feel free to ignore what I'm about to say. lol.
If by chance you do though, I'd recommend giving EA Sports FC24 a try, I did coincidentally play ISS Pro 98 at a friend's house recently, my god it was awful compared to the new games. Just my opinion if course
Nostalgia is a great thing but sometimes you have to go back and play the older games to realise just how good the new ones are.
You don't have to buy them every year, just take this one as it's a freebie.
It's not great to be fair but I do think these always online stories get blown way out of proportion.
I used to get annoyed over the always online thing myself, but then I came to the realisation that my PS5 is always online anyway. If the servers are temporarily down for whatever reason then I'll just play something else for a while
I prefer to think of my subscription as a rental service , except instead of just renting one game I'm getting hundreds of them.
It gives me the opportunity to try lots of games I probably wouldn't look twice at under normal circumstances.
If I find something I really like that gets removed I can always buy it if I really want it. (The same as I would have had to do years ago when I took my rented game for the weekend back to Blockbuster)
I'm torn on it after being completely disappointed in the PS4 Pro.
The only good thing I can see is that we may start getting some actual PS5 exclusives and the PS4 can finally be left where it belongs....... in the past
I managed to get one a few weeks after it launched (right place right time, just happened to be in Smyth's just after they'd had a delivery)
I love the idea of it in principle, but I found it just glitches far too much for my liking.
Imagine playing a game of FIFA online and your opponent has a bad connection, unless I was in the house on my own and nothing else was putting a strain on the WiFi, it just didn't work very well.
We do have pretty decent fibre optic broadband as well.
Long story short, I sold it to a lad in work a week later, he's now sold it on again for the same reason
Nothing really for me this month but at the end of January, I did get 12 months of PS Extra for the price of Essential so anything I do get is Essentially (pun intended) a bonus
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Re: PS5 Packaging No Longer Mentions 8K, Some Fans Accuse Sony of False Advertising
@Arkz
Interestingly, Microsoft make the same 8K claims about their Series X
https://www.xbox.com/en-US/consoles/xbox-series-x
Not sure what to make of that myself but it would suggest that they may both support it through an update if and when it's ready
Re: PS5 Packaging No Longer Mentions 8K, Some Fans Accuse Sony of False Advertising
@Arkz
If you don't mind me saying... for a feature you have no interest or intention of using you seem to care way too much about this.
Just let it go man, it's really not that big of a deal
Re: PS5 Packaging No Longer Mentions 8K, Some Fans Accuse Sony of False Advertising
@Arkz
I hope you understand that I'm not disagreeing with you as such.
I'm just pointing out that pretty much not a single person would have saw the box on the shelf and saw the 8k logo and thought "ooooh, I must get myself one of them because it supports 8k"
They bought it because it was a PS5 and would have been buying one regardless of what it claimed on the box
Re: PS5 Packaging No Longer Mentions 8K, Some Fans Accuse Sony of False Advertising
@Arkz My point was more addressing the fact that almost nobody would have bought it just because it said 8K on the box.
I, and I'm sure millions of others would have been buying one regardless so it wasn't really a selling point
If you want to talk about false advertising let's go right back to Sega with their Blast processing (that didn't exist)
Re: PS5 Packaging No Longer Mentions 8K, Some Fans Accuse Sony of False Advertising
I'm not sure I'd go as far as to say false advertising.
I doubt there any many people (if any) that bought one just because it said 8K on the box
The vast majority of people (myself included) will have bought one simply because it was the new Playstation on the Market and it was a hot item
Re: Free Cristiano Ronaldo Backed Football Game UFL Kicks Off PS5 Test This Week
@Nem
No this is something completely separate altogether.
I'm also picking up Sociable soccer 24 for the Switch on Friday so it seems all the football games are coming along at once
Re: FC 24's Free Euro 2024 Update Kicks Off This Week
@nessisonett
Yeah admittedly the last free world cup update we got did feel like something was missing so I know what you mean.
That said though I still never thought it was worth a full priced release, it was essentially the same game just with National squads. Maybe worth picking up if you hadn't already bought the main game
I know some smart arse (and I dont mean yourself) will come back with "Huh, FIFA is basically the same game released every year so what difference does it make"
Re: FC 24's Free Euro 2024 Update Kicks Off This Week
@Jey887
When I think of the 2010 tournament the first thing that springs to mind is those dreadful Vuvuzelas.
I'm going to assume the game didn't include them 😂
Re: FC 24's Free Euro 2024 Update Kicks Off This Week
I remember back in the day they used to release these as a full priced new game.
As much as I dislike EA' antics sometimes, I have to give them credit for doing this as a free update again
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 531
Please never use The Simpsons hit n Run picture out of context on this website again
Just for a brief moment I thought........ you know
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced During Sony's State of Play Livestream for May 2024?
Saved by Astro Bot
Re: Astro Bot Looks Absolutely Glorious, Lands on PS5 This September
I loved Astros playroom but it was very short and left you needing more.
Thankfully now we're getting it and I for one can't wait
Re: PS Plus' Higher-Priced Extra, Premium Tiers Command 35% of Overall Subs
I am subscribed to Extra but only because it was on sale for the same price as Essential so it was a no brainer.
If I'm honest I probably don't use it as much as I should but it is kind of nice knowing that I have access to all those games if and when I want them.
Also, £60 - £65 a year is hardly going to break the bank
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for June 2024 Announced
Very very happy with AEW and Streets of Rage 4
Best month in a long long time
Re: GTA 6 PS5 Release Window Narrowed to Fall 2025
I might just wait and get the remaster of the remastered version for my PS7
Re: 13 New Games Joining PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Week
Always wanted to play RDR2 but could never be bothered to go to the effort of buying it it so I'm quite happy with that one at least
Re: Reaction: Why You Shouldn't Worry Too Much About PS5's Year-on-Year Decline
I'm sorry but the internet doesn't allow for context.
Never allow the facts to spoil a good clickbait headline
Re: Sony Shipped 4.5 Million PS5's Last Quarter, Almost Five Times More Than Xbox Series X|S
I didn't realise it till the other day when I looked at my games collection, but I don't really play many 1st party Playstation exclusive games.
Not everything obviously but the vast majority of my games are multi platform Sports games or Racing games that could technically be played on either console.
I don't know what it is though, I just always have and always will prefer to play them on Playstation.
I guess at heart I'm more into Nintendo exclusives than anything else, but Nintendo always pump out under powered consoles so playing EA Sports FC24 as an example on the Switch just doesn't quite cut it.
Re: PS Portal Still Going Strong, Demand in USA Exceeds Supply
@koverby
Yeah with the benefit of hindsight, part of me wishes that I'd kept it...... At the time though, it was alot of money to just potentially write off for something that might never work the way I wanted it too, I just thought it was best to get rid of it whilst it was still in high demand.
I didn't sell it for a profit as I hate scalpers who do that sort of thing... I was happy to just get back what I paid for it and break even.
Re: PS Plus Revenue Is on the Up Following 2022's Multi-Tiered Overhaul
I'm currently subscribed to Extra, but only because it was on sale for the same price as Essential so it was a no brainer
Re: Free-to-Play Battle Royale Party Game Stumble Guys Is Now Available on PS5, PS4
When you order fall guys from Wish
Re: PS Portal Still Going Strong, Demand in USA Exceeds Supply
I sold mine because it was too glitchy.
More or less unplayable unless I was in the house on my own and nobody else was putting a strain on the WiFi
Re: Stylish Arcade Racer #DRIVE Rally Powerslides onto PS5 in 2025
I love a good Racing game, as much as I prefer them to look nice and pretty, at the end of the day it comes down the the physics and how the cars handle.
If the handling is top draw I can look past the graphical side of things.
Re: 4 New PS Plus Essential Games Up for Download Now
@Bunchesopuppies
Push Square is a UK based website so they are absolutely correct to call it football, because that's what it is........ Not Soccer
Also you can shove you're NFL where the sun doesn't shine
Oh and for the record..... I am just joking, this post isn't meant to be taken too literally 🤪
Re: Activision Reportedly Rejected Vicarious Visions' Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 + 4 Pitch
I don't buy many new games on day one anymore but this would have definitely been one of them
Re: Many, Many More Xbox Ports Plotted for PS5, New Speculation Suggests
@Dodoo
Yeah the new Forza Motorsport looks incredible
Re: Many, Many More Xbox Ports Plotted for PS5, New Speculation Suggests
The only Xbox Franchise I'm genuinely interested in is the Forza games. I just have no interest in any of their other so called big hitters.
The Crew Motorfest is a decent and thoroughly enjoyable game but it still doesn't quite match up to the Brilliance of Forza horizon (insert any number here)
Re: TopSpin 2K25 Is Being Slaughtered for Its Always Online Requirement, Even When Playing Solo
@Texaschainsaw83
For what it's worth, I do agree with you, it's not a good thing and I'd very much prefer it not to happen given the choice..... I just don't see it as that big of a deal with a game like this one.
Now if you told me in 10 years time all my Mario games would suddenly be unplayable I'd be devastated lol.
I've been doing a little bit of research in the case of this particular game.
The online only aspect only seems to apply to the My Career mode.
If there servers are down (or if indeed shut down altogether one day) then you can still play the game locally with a friend or against the AI
And there is every chance it may be patched in the future so that the My Career mode will still work
Re: TopSpin 2K25 Is Being Slaughtered for Its Always Online Requirement, Even When Playing Solo
@Flaming_Kaiser
I agree it's obviously not good and it definitely shouldn't happen
The only thing I will say it that The Crew is a 10 year old game, so it's not quite the useless after 2 years that Psboxswitchowner was trying to claim.
In fairness I very much doubt that in 10 years time I'll still be wanting to play TopSpin 2K25, I'll probably be playing whatever the latest version is, so again I just don't see it as that big of a deal.
Just my opinion obviously, not suggesting that I'm right and your wrong.... just explaining why it doesn't bother me so much
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for May 2024 Announced
@Slippship
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but at no point have I "not allowed you to have an opinion"
I've simply pointed out to you, that your logic of saying, "if somebody wanted a particular game they would already have it", could be applied to literally any game given away on PS Plus and I firmly stand by that point
There's no need to be so defensive
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for May 2024 Announced
@Slippship
I'm not a new kid though (unfortunately for me 🤣)
Born in 82 so grew up in the 90's you could say.
I get that the kidz of today probably wouldn't like it but I grew up playing them.
Don't get me wrong I love a bit of retro gaming, but football games in particular from back then just haven't aged very well I don't think.
The only Football game from back in the day that I can still play and enjoy is Sensible Soccer, always had a soft spot for that one, despite how terrible it looks 😃
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for May 2024 Announced
@Uromastryx
I've read your post a few times and I'm still unsure if your agreeing or disagreeing with me.
Personally though, I don't mind COD games, I enjoy them but it's not something I enjoy enough to to shell out £70 a year on (basically because Im just not very good at it haha). I guess you could call me a casual COD fan.
So if and when one gets given away on PS plus, that suits me just fine.
And for me at least that's what PS plus is all about.
I don't expect every single game given away to by at the top of my shopping list but even if I get 5-6 games a year that I really like from it, then for me it's worth the subscription price
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for May 2024 Announced
@Slippship
Whether there's a new game every 12 months or every 5 years is irrelevant.
My point was that you said if people want it, they'd already have it. Well you could say exactly the same thing about Horizon, or pretty much any game for that matter.
I'm going to assume you just don't like football in which case feel free to ignore what I'm about to say. lol.
If by chance you do though, I'd recommend giving EA Sports FC24 a try, I did coincidentally play ISS Pro 98 at a friend's house recently, my god it was awful compared to the new games. Just my opinion if course
Nostalgia is a great thing but sometimes you have to go back and play the older games to realise just how good the new ones are.
You don't have to buy them every year, just take this one as it's a freebie.
Re: TopSpin 2K25 Is Being Slaughtered for Its Always Online Requirement, Even When Playing Solo
@IslandLogic
What makes you so sure it won't?
As I say it's all Hypothetical
I prefer not to get stressed over something that may or may not happen
Re: TopSpin 2K25 Is Being Slaughtered for Its Always Online Requirement, Even When Playing Solo
@PsBoxSwitchOwner
No because the chances are that it will be patched by then so that it can be used offline.
in the same way Gran Turismo Sport was recently patched to work offline.
To say it will be useless in a few years time is a completely hypothetical situation that in all likelihood won't happen.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Sea of Thieves on PS5?
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Re: PS Plus Essential Games for May 2024 Announced
@Slippship
"C'mon Sony. If they wanted football they'd already have it."
What a ridiculous statement!!
You could literally apply that logic to every game thats given away on PS plus
Re: TopSpin 2K25 Is Being Slaughtered for Its Always Online Requirement, Even When Playing Solo
It's not great to be fair but I do think these always online stories get blown way out of proportion.
I used to get annoyed over the always online thing myself, but then I came to the realisation that my PS5 is always online anyway. If the servers are temporarily down for whatever reason then I'll just play something else for a while
#1stworldproblems
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for May 2024 Announced
@Ainu20
If there's one thing the Internet has taught me it's that you will never, and I mean never be able to please everyone lol
Sony could give us 4 brand new AAA games every month and someone still would find a way to be unhappy with them.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for May 2024 Announced
Pretty solid month to be fair.
I'm guessing there will be a big divide on whether this is a good month or not depending on which side of the pond you live on.
I know most Americans have zero to little interest in Football (sorry I refuse to call it Soccer)
Re: Huge PS Plus Clearout Confirmed for May, 25 Games Leaving
@Shepherd_Tallon
I prefer to think of my subscription as a rental service , except instead of just renting one game I'm getting hundreds of them.
It gives me the opportunity to try lots of games I probably wouldn't look twice at under normal circumstances.
If I find something I really like that gets removed I can always buy it if I really want it. (The same as I would have had to do years ago when I took my rented game for the weekend back to Blockbuster)
Re: Random: Lara Croft Tops Mario as the Most Iconic Video Game Character of All Time, Apparently
@PaperAlien
I'm British and I'm just as surprised as you are
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for April 2024 Announced
Erm........... Yeah........................ Hopefully May will be better
Re: Devs Allegedly Pondering the Point of Sony's PS5 Pro Upgrade
I'm torn on it after being completely disappointed in the PS4 Pro.
The only good thing I can see is that we may start getting some actual PS5 exclusives and the PS4 can finally be left where it belongs....... in the past
Re: PS Portal Is Proving Everyone's Predictions Wrong
I managed to get one a few weeks after it launched (right place right time, just happened to be in Smyth's just after they'd had a delivery)
I love the idea of it in principle, but I found it just glitches far too much for my liking.
Imagine playing a game of FIFA online and your opponent has a bad connection, unless I was in the house on my own and nothing else was putting a strain on the WiFi, it just didn't work very well.
We do have pretty decent fibre optic broadband as well.
Long story short, I sold it to a lad in work a week later, he's now sold it on again for the same reason
Re: TopSpin 2K25's Full Roster of Pro Players Is Missing Many Major Names on PS5, PS4
As long as it plays well, I'm willing to look past this.
I've always enjoyed tennis video games whilst not actually being a massive Tennis fan in real life.
If I'm honest I don't really know who the majority of people you listed are anyway 😂
Re: Mini Review: Taxi Life: A City Driving Simulator (PS5) - Taxi Sim Stalls on Arrival
Genuinely interested to play this, but probably not enough to actually buy it.
I'll more than likely wait till it inevitably gets given away on PS Plus at some point
Re: Sony Allegedly Pausing PSVR2 Production Due to Surplus of Unsold Stock
grabs box of popcorn ready to sit back and read all the comments
Re: Temporary PS5 Price Cuts Target Europe As Sony Makes Final Push for Goal
Sometimes I wish I didn't have a PS5 so I could take advantage of these offers and enjoy that New console excitement again
Re: 13 New Games Land on PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Week
Nothing really for me this month but at the end of January, I did get 12 months of PS Extra for the price of Essential so anything I do get is Essentially (pun intended) a bonus