Member_the_game

I can't say I've ever heard of this device before.

A friend of mine used to have a Kinect which could be fun in the right circumstances and with the right people.

This seems a little bit expensive for my taste though , it'd probably be fun for a short while but I wouldn't expect to get years and years of use out of it like I would with my PS5

@Northern_munkey

I know you were obviously joking but I guarantee there will be people out there amongst us that genuinely do feel that way 🤣🤣

I don't really play online so my subscription is purely for the "Free" monthly games.... despite the fact the I never even bother to download 70% of them lol

@Gunbeld @RoomWithaMoose @Rich

I wouldn't say I was apologising as such, more a case of trying to clear up a misunderstanding on your part. Just to clarify this is directed at Gunbeld

You saw my original post as an attack on Playstation and wrongly assumed (or at least that's how it came across) that I was somehow trying to paint out that the Switch 2 was selling much better and was superior in some way, which as I say was never my intention.

My original post was more a case of pointing out a flaw in the headline of the article that the extra 6 months worth of sales in favour of the pS5 will definitely be a key factor in why it's edging out the Switch 2 in 2025.

Any way at the risk of reigniting the argument.... see you again at the November sale article lol

@PuppetMaster

I get that and completely agree, i understand that it's obviously done deliberately to draw people in.

But then I feel it's only fair for the readers to be able to call out and correct the clickbait as and when it happens.

Clearly this is what the website wants as it then creates lots of engagement for them lol

@PuppetMaster

You haven't been rude at all, in fact you come across as very respectful compared to others which shall remain nameless lol.

The title of the Article is about the PS5 edging out the Switch 2 so far in 2025.

My original comment (which I deleted because I had to go to work and didn't have time to deal with all the notifications I was receiving) literally just pointed out that the additional 6 months of sales will have helped with that.

Nothing more, nothing less, it wasn't intended to be that deep but some people saw it as if I was trying to deminish the PS5 in some way when I made it perfectly clear that I own both consoles and love them both equally

down playing the success of the PS5 was never my intention, I was just pointing out an obvious flaw in the headline

@Gunbeld @Rich33 @RoomWithaMoose

This whole debate / argument started just because I attempted to point out that it wasn't really a fair comparison to compare a console with only 6 months of sales Vs a console with a full 12 months of sales... nothing to do with launch sales specifically, just Sales in general over a 12 month period.

It was never my intention to try to put down or deminish the PS5 in any way shape or form... If the article was specifically about sales for October then that would be fair enough, but it wasn't it was about 2025 as a whole.

This might be a silly analogy but bare with me...... let's say all 4 of us have to walk a 12 miles (months) race..... 1 of us gets a 6 miles (months) head start on the others...... Now to me it's pretty obvious and stands to reason that the one with the 6 miles head start will likely will be the one to get to the end first.

I did point out in my OG post that I own both a PS5 and a Switch 2 and love them both equally so in no way was I attempting to claim one or the other was more superior.... just simply that 12 Vs 6 wasn't a fair comparison.

Anyway... at the risk of going round in circles again I'm going to leave it there and hope we can all respectfully move on 🙂

@RoomWithaMoose

I just like to thank you for having my back this morning.

I deleted my comments because I was leaving for work and didn't have time to deal with all the Drama 😂

I've never known such a dramatic over reaction to what I thought was a fairly reasonable point that I made.

Will definitely give Lego Horizon a try but I'm not really interested in any of the others.

That's fine though, as long as I get at least one game per month on PS Essential that interests me then I feel the subscription is working

I don't really play online, very rarely anyway so I literally do subscribe for the "Free" games

@scottXedgar

Haha good idea, far too many overly defensive people in here .... I've got to go to work now and I can do without all the notifications so I've removed my comments 😂😂

I was a day one adopter, have to say I love mine.

One thing that really bugged me initially was all the Cross Gen releases...I understand that it was because the PS4 has such a large install base but I spent all that money hoping for a bit of exclusivity, It was really annoying seeing the majority of games being released on both PS4 & PS5.

Thankfully it's getting better now in terms of "Current gen only" releases but it's taken far to long in my opinion.

As much as I love my PS5 one thing I have learnt is that I'm in no rush whatsoever to get a PS6 as I'm 99% sure I'll still be able to play every thing I want too on my PS5 for foreseeable future

@TheSlythe

The past 3-4 years there's usually another similar sale at the end of January... If you don't mind letting it expire and do without it for a month or 2 you should be offered a similar discount at the end of January that you will then be in a position to take advantage of

@AccessibleDaydream

I haven't read all the comments on this thread so apologies if someone has already answered you.

If the past 3-4 years have been anything to go by, there will likely be another similar sale at the end of January so if you're paying monthly at the moment, as long as you let it expire it on 6th January you should in theory be good for a discount at the next sale.

I've renewed mine at a discounted rate in January for the last 3 years

Currently subscribed to PS Premium which I believe expires at the end of January (or thereabouts)

I say it every time but this time I'm 100% dropping down to the essential tier.

It's not even about value or Money, I just don't really ever play any of the games on Extra or Premium so I'm just paying for a service that I don't use

If it actually happens on that day it'll be exactly 6 years to the day after the launch of the PS5

@dodgykebaab

My internet is fine, we have the fastest available EE fibre broadband.

I think the issue was that I was an early adopter and they have since updated the portal to work/run alot lot better.

If I'd known they were going to update it I'd have probably kept hold of it but as it was at the time it was borderline unplayable unfortunately

There should be an option in the poll along the lines of

I bought one but had to sell it because it was far too glitchy and not fit for purpose

Played it via game pass when I used to have a Series X

Once I'd flew out from my local airport (Liverpool John Lennon) and found my house (or what looked a bit like it) I soon got bored and uninstalled it.

@Fandabidozi2025

Yes I guess what I meant was that I was poking fun at the fact they've already done just that haha

@djlard

stray is still a crappy selection

"In your opinion", which you're obviously entitled too.

However my original post wasn't about whether the game is any good or not...... it was about whether the fact that it's already been available via PS Extra specifically makes it crappy.

I was simply pointing out that just because it's been on PS Extra in the past doesn't automatically mean that everyone has already played it.

@Max_the_German

Same for me, I do subscribe at Premium level but for one reason or another I never got around to playing Stray when it was originally on Extra.

I'm definitely looking forward to giving it a try because I've only ever heard good things about it.

@Cerny

I understand what you mean, however.... you need to take into account that not everybody subscribes to Extra or Premium.

To the "Essential tier only customers" it's a new game.... one that they get to keep as well

If they ever do get close again Sony will conveniently find a few more million sales receipts that had been "misfiled"

With that being said (I was obviously just joking)... the release of the Switch 2 pretty much killed off any chance it did have

Also why the hell Nintendo decided to put the price up rather than dropping the price is mine boggling.

I love Nintendo but they really do some weird ***** from time to time

The problem is that it's all subjective and everyone will have their own personal taste in games.

I've noticed that whatever games we get, it's impossible to please everyone, if Sony release a really popular game people moan because the chances are they've already played it or own it.

Release a lesser know game and then people will moan that we're not getting a triple A title.

In short what ever games we get Sony can't "Win"

Someone will always be unhappy with them for whatever reason

Prior to the arrival of Forza Horizon on Playstation, a game like this would have definitely caught my attention.

However since Forza is soooo good, it would take something truly special to make me look elsewhere now as far as open world racers go.

Just my opinion... no hate please

I agree to an extent and it definitely works with certain games but I could never imagine playing a 3D Mario game on anything other than a Nintendo console

I owned 2 x PS3 consoles (because the first one broke and it was replaced under my extended warranty).

I have to say it's definitely my least favourite Sony Console... not that there was anything bad about it, it's just the one I had the least amount of fun with

The fact that in 2025 (more or less 5 years after the PS5 launch) we're still seeing games released on PS4 tells me that nobody really "Needs" a PS6 any time soon

I guarantee that somebody out there somewhere will be saying that this is a crap selection of games

I've always bought the newest Consoles to be able to play the new exclusive games.

This Gen in particular those "Exclusive" games haven't really materialised barring the odd exception.

With the exception of Astro Bot, off the top of my head I'm almost certain everything else I've wanted to play has also been available for PS4.

I will pick up a PS6 at some point but the days of me being a day one adopter and doing everything I can to secure a pre order are long gone

If true I'll be very pleased with that, always wanted to try Silent Hill 2

@Vaako007

I think if you happen to be new to the Xbox Eco system then initially it is a great deal.... On paper.

But as time goes on and once you've played the majority of the games on the service that you want to try, all of a sudden those monthly fees start to feel unnecessarily expensive and if you're only paying it to play the latest COD release (or insert favourite game here) then it's much cheaper to just buy the game and have done with it.

Game pass ultimate is now effectively $360 per year ...... in 3 years you'll have spent over $1000.

In theory it's a great service for the day one releases but there's also an awful lot of shovel ware on there to pad out the service.

For balance the Shovel ware argument can also be directed at PS Plus extra / Premium too.

Also I'd just like to add that I don't think it's about people wanting things for free, small annual increases are pretty much to be expected and as long as they are sensible increases people will generally accept them....... this particular set of increases are as far away from sensible as you can get.

However many subscribers they had to Game pass ultimate, I can guarantee they'll be getting a lot less moving forward now that they've essentially doubled the price.

A couple of ££ / $$ a year increase people will just about accept (reluctantly of course)

But to almost double the price in one hit is just plain stupidity.

They should have done it about 4 years ago to be fair

I'd swear Xbox have just given up at this point.

They're products aren't selling so what do they do? Offer a discount? Nope they increase their prices lol

Now with this increase to Game Pass it's almost like they want to fail

Can anyone advise if it's best to play the original Alan Wake first or will I be ok diving straight in to this one.

I always assume it kinda like a film where you wouldn't normally watch the sequel with watching the first one

Definitely interested in a set of those Pulse Speakers for my games room

Providing they're not priced ridiculously high........ who am I kidding..... it's 2025 if course they're going to be astronomically expensive

I won't lie, prior to the official announcement I was semi interested in getting one, if for nothing else just to get more internal storage.

At the time I was expecting it to be maybe £50 - £100 more expensive than the base model (in the same way that the PS4 Pro was to the standard PS4).

As soon as they told us the price any passing interest I did have ended right there.

The sad thing is that the more I read about the product, the happier I am that I didn't treat myself to one

Remember guys.... go into it expecting the worst and hoping for the best...

that way you can't be too disappointed when it finishes

Played it back in the day when I used to own an Xbox, it's was fun to start with but once I'd found my house I got bored of it and uninstalled

As others have suggested it was a fun game at first but once the novelty wears off it loses it appeal

I remember buying one with my Birthday money in June 1996

I mainly remember the year because it was when the Euro 96 football tournament was on.

I bought Destruction Derby with it and and Adidas Power Soccer.

I also got hours and hours of fun from the Demo disc that came inside the box

I'm not massively into hand held gaming but the beauty of my Switch (1&2) is that regardless of how I chose to play it , I only need the one device to play how I wish (admittedly probably 90% of the time in docked mode)

If I need to have a PS6 and then a separate device to play in hand held that's pretty much an instant turn off to me.

Those are just my personal views, maybe if I was more into hand held gaming I'd feel slightly differently.

I appreciate that the article suggests this device will work in the same way as a switch but it does also refer to it as a companion device suggesting that a PS6 is still required

As others have already suggested I'm starting to think maybe it isn't an error (or cock up) and it just genuinely has been given away for free in certain regions.

I've claimed it and downloaded it to console via the PS app but have yet to actually play it (at the time of typing..... 15:54pm BST)

The fact that certain games are still being released on PS4 and Xbox One tells you everything you need to know.

I'm normally always a day one adopter for new hardware (When it comes to Sony and Nintendo at least).

If there's one thing I learned from the PS5 launch is that there's absolutely no rush to dash out and buy a PS6 because I'll still be able to play everything on my PS5 for at least another 2- 3 years after launch

@Ainu20

I hear what you're saying but it still doesn't sit right with me if I'm honest.

I think a lot of it comes down to greed and they're putting prices up.... not because they have to but because they know they can get away with it and people will still pay it.

I'm just in a fortunate position where it doesn't effect me as such (unless my PS5 or Switch 2 break and I need to purchase a new ones of course)

99 times out of 100 I am usually a day one adopter of new consoles, this generation in particular it's turned out to be a very wise move

Remember the good old days when consoles used to come down in price after a few years of being on the market?

We didn't know how good we had it.

I'm sorry but these increases are absolute madness IMO

The maddest one of all is Nintendo deciding to hike up the price of their 8 year old OG Switch.

I'll say it again..... it's absolute madness...... stop the world please..... I want to get off

This doesn't matter to me for 2 reasons.

1. I'm 43 years old
2. I have no intention of playing the game online

Excluding August it's been a very good year in fairness

@themightyant

yeah definitely don't remember these haha

Not bashing them but I've literally never heard of a single one of them