@Steve_BTW Pushed how exactly? I remember they marketed it as the game was solely possible on PS5 and its groundbreaking SSD but playing it felt like another R&C game and only a year later it turned out to run fine on PCs with HDDs…
To me Returnal was more technically impressive and felt more “next-gen” from that same year, but still I’d argue we haven’t seen a game that truly pushes the PS5 to its limit until now.
@Steve_BTW Nah honestly they can’t be directly compared, Death Stranding is a barren world by design with no NPCs in the open world whatsoever, almost no interiors and no ray-tracing at all, what we saw yesterday is impressive and shouldn’t be disregarded.
@8th_Observer Not upset but continuously disappointed in the entitled tone of several articles recently, this site didn’t use to rely so much in flaming users and console warring but I see they’re taking cues from social media where everything is more toxic but it does generate more engagement so I guess it’s working?
@8th_Observer Then what’s the point of this article? Only to try and flame PS users against Xbox trying to spark some controversy because a release date –for a game that is publicly announced and confirmed– hasn’t been announced yet, and some have already taken the bait.
And I personally find laughable the sheer hypocrisy and entitlement of a PS site almost demanding with pitchforks and torches the release date for an Xbox port when mere months ago they were dismissing all PC players as ‘port-beggars’…
@AdamNovice It’s Sony who send out an email to remind people we own nothing mere weeks after announcing the end of physical discs. You don’t think people have a right to be pissed?
It’s always “leave the corporation alone” from you.
@get2sammyb I think he meant that while this article is about how well it’s estimated to sell on PC you shoved in the “PS5 Console Exclusive” in the title.
I can’t believe people who still defend how out of touch Sony is, it’s so arrogant how they literally feel too big to fail but bigger empires have fallen, corporate and otherwise…
@ShadowRJ Exactly. Enthusiasts as ourselves have already little incentive to get a PS6 as a main platform, hardware might be cheaper than Helix or building a PC but in the long run without physical games and the platform being monopolized by the PS Store I can guarantee that after buying a few games it’ll end up being more expensive than any other option.
I feel Sony is having some sort of mirage right now, where they say “there’s no impact to the business” for all their recent decisions because GTA 6 will inflate their numbers substantially a couple of quarters, BUT after its launch as console sales fall to their lowest ever while trying to market a $1000+ PS6 we’ll see if they dare to repeat “there’s no impact to the business”…
It will be a mortal blow for the console market overall, we’re severely underestimating how easily the casual audience will simply move on from console gaming altogether and find another cheaper hobbies, and us enthusiasts who still want a console, we are going to be squeezed to the last dime as companies will try to maintain the same revenue with 40% less audience or more.
The very first thing I thought back in 2021 when Sony was bragging about 10+ live services was that all those resources were taken away from single-player games, and both execs and diehard fanboys (even right here in the comments) proclaimed time and time again that it wouldn’t disrupt the single-player releases, and well, the obvious ended up happening…
What a waste of time and resources, we’d be closing out the Horizon trilogy right now if Guerrilla (as all PS Studios this generation) wouldn’t be making something no one but Sony execs asked for.
If you cherry pick you will find comments like these for EVERYTHING.
Twitter/X is the land where everyone is miserable, they act like a hate mob and right now Sony is a prime target for that mob, eventually they’ll move on to hate something else.
@Can-You-Believe-Sith Specially with how much it messes with PSSR, while I like this release for being classic Halo CE, it continues to demonstrate how incompetent this studio is for what was one of the biggest gaming franchises of all time.
@Flaming_Kaiser Would you want to alienate your most loyal audience by entirely getting rid of physical media or just keep it as a limited option for those who want it so they stay on your platform?
We can’t expect Sony to do what we consider to be logical but rather the greediest option of them all.
@Balaam_ You must think in terms of what shareholders want, would they want to sell you a drive to play all the games you have or rather force you into buying all your games again?
At this point I wouldn’t be shocked if some Sony exec ends up saying “fortunately we have a product for people who want to play their physical games, it’s called PlayStation 5”…
Something about this game just doesn’t hook me, I went from wanting it day one after 2021’s announcement to not being sure if I will get it at all, way more hyped for Phantom Blade Zero and Control Resonant.
Why can’t we just get basic black plates for PS5 Pro? I’m not convinced about the design, the silver one looks decent but I wouldn’t rush to buy it, the yellow one is simply not for me at all lol
I agree and it’s a trend for every sequel that we’ve got this generation, Yotei, Ragnarok, Spider-Man 2, Forbidden West have felt a bit formulaic and not as impactful as the games that came before, still great games but gameplay is too similar and there barely was an evolution between entries while the story in my opinion has been a clear letdown for all these sequels.
@HonestHick And also remains the only account where you can’t change your region, so if you are in an unsupported country and make an US account you won’t ever be able to change it, PS Support will literally tell you “just make another account”.
Their digital infrastructure is simply archaic and as far as we know there’s zero improvements planned as they simply not care, they really said “take it or leave” and as for me I’m clear that PS won’t be my main platform come next generation.
@naruball Exactly, Sony (and most major gaming companies nowadays) are severely underestimating how easily the casual audience will simply move on from console gaming altogether, it already is happening this generation as the console audience keeps shrinking from the heights of the 2010’s, many young people are simply not interested in consoles even at their 2020 price and why many companies including Sony are shifting towards squeezing money out of their customers rather than gaining new users but that’s simply unsustainable on the long term.
I’m seeing GTA 6’s launch as a last hurrah for the console market before things really start to get ugly.
The ultimate confirmation this is set in stone, there’s no countermeasures planned or any improvements whatsoever for the all-digital ecosystem, it’s really an ultimatum of “this is what we offer, take it or leave it” and I honestly expect them to remain in that cocky attitude up until the PS6 struggles to sell after launch which will inevitably happen.
They’re banking on the casual audience to keep buying the brand forever but they’ll leave as soon as they see the price tag and the enthusiasts who were willing to pay any price are the ones who Sony is forfeiting with their decisions, if you want any indication on how “loyal” the casual audience is just look at how many jumped from the PS2 to PS3 (barely half of its user base), the PSP to PS Vita losing 3/4 of its user base or an even more dramatic case with the Wii and Wii U losing 90% of its audience, and yes I’m aware those are different circumstances and times but no brand is invulnerable of flying too close to the sun…
It’d be poetic but let’s not kid ourselves, Microsoft began the all-digital push ever since 2013, Game Pass is also a big push for it, 90% of their recent physical releases are nothing more than game key-discs, and to be honest they’ve actually invested in having a better digital ecosystem, there’s no incentive for them to keep supporting physical discs other than a few days of positive clout on social media.
@TDHorizon I think you’re confusing installment plans to subsidizing, the way many phones are sold with carriers is that they include the cell services within the price of the phone for X months and ends up being cheaper than buying the phone outright and separately paying for cell service (effectively subsidizing the price of the phone), consoles simply don’t work like that, there’s no one selling PS5s with unlimited games included for a monthly price, MS attempted something like that with Xbox and Game Pass back in 2021 but it didn’t take off.
The latest trend as shown by Apple this week is hardware leasing which to me is completely dystopian but I can already see the pitch on the console side, personally I’d rather sell my old hardware to buy new one or simply buy older or refurbished devices before paying a monthly fee for hardware I will never own.
@TDHorizon I get it but that’s an apple to oranges comparison, phones nowadays are almost essential and many subsidized with carriers whereas consoles are not, in fact the console market has been shrinking and younger generations are not as interested on AAA gaming, the few ones who do are quickly getting priced out of gaming altogether which makes existing console makers more reliant on the existing audience to keep spending more and more.
@tangyzesty It’s sad to read any comment cheering on the corporation for making more money while trying to ridicule the customers who disagree with their decisions, it’s obvious that any effect of their recent decisions will not be immediate, these numbers don’t even include any data after the July 1st announcement but you didn’t care to read that, only to cheer for Sony.
And I’m not saying there will be a large-scale boycott or a big sudden dip in their revenue stream, but do you seriously expect them to do this good when they try to sell us on a PS6?
The effect will be gradual, just look at Xbox now, a shell of its former shelf selling less than half than a decade ago yet still exists, PlayStation is not invulnerable to failure or gradually dwindle over time in the same way.
Wow. I mean I already expected them to not reverse course but I did expect some kind of counter announcement but nah, they sh*t on us and expect us to thank them.
For anyone thinking they would distribute digital games as they did back with the PS4 they just confirmed they won’t, their only retail presence moving forward will be code-in-a-box for select games while monopolizing the PS Store, I just hope they face a mountain of legal challenges in every single market, if they’re unwilling to budge hopefully some regulator will go nuclear and force Sony to open the platform as they did with Apple, even if it upends their entire business, I even hope it does at this point, whatever hurts them the most.
The most gaslighting earnings report ever “these are tough times for YOU so we jack up your prices and remove your options so that WE keep doing better than ever”.
I honestly expect all single-player games from EA to cease to exist, we will get whatever is already in development (like Jedi 3) but I fully expect them to turn into a full sports live-service predatory game company that I’ll continue to not consume.
Also there must be some separation between your account where you “own” all your games and your social profile, meaning that if you get banned online justifiably or not on whatever game you won’t lose everything you’ve invested in that account.
One big thing missing is security, it’s by far the most vulnerable account of any modern platform as it can be easily hacked through social engineering and the platform provides zero security measures to prevent it as it can be done even if you have passkeys/2FA enabled in your account.
Also region flexibility, not only allow any account to switch regions with its due limits but it’s imperative they get rid of distributing Asian, European and American editions for all games separately and distribute one global version as every platform does.
I heavily disagree with many of Sony’s recent decisions but this is just silly, my PS5 stays off for more time randomly throughout the year when I want to play on my other consoles or do something else instead.
This whole debacle has been ugly to watch, on one hand these grifter accounts are having tons of engagement doing ragebait posts one after another and now they feel in the position of organizing a large-scale boycott which I’m sorry it’s laughable, they hypocritically repost that image of “f*** Sony” on discs while also sharing how excited they are for GTA 6 or to replay Black Ops on PS5, but on the other hand Sony’s deafening silence and lack of any countermeasure has been making everything worse and will only continue to escalate.
@Nightcrawler71 I don’t think so, Santa Monica immediately moved over from Ragnarok to Laufey, while Guerrilla has been making their Horizon live-service that no one wants.
@AdamNovice A business that has been most profitable this generation than any other according to Sony themselves, even counting the billions of losses for pursuing failed live-services.
I really don’t get why every single time there’s an article talking about physical media and its value for many people all the corporate defenders come here and spit the same nonsense trying to dismiss it and becoming a trivial debate of “us vs them”, y’all act like Sony’s shareholders while getting absolutely nothing the same as the rest of us, no options, no ownership and higher prices, if you don’t want to complain or don’t see any value in physical media it’s fine, but to click every article to actively defend oh-precious Sony and its business is simply pathetic.
Read the full data before rallying on the comments justifying Sony’s decisions as if you were shareholders yourselves, sure only 7 games have managed to sell more than 100,000 copies but 35% for Ghost of Yōtei is still pretty significant, specially since it being a first-party game it relies solely on selling copies on PS consoles, by ceasing a physical release they’re essentially forfeiting 1/3 of sales for any first-party game which only spells future problems for first-party studios.
I still find it jarring they went for the nuclear option of ceasing physical discs altogether instead of keeping it as a more expensive and niche option for those willing to pay for it, they easily could have found a middle-ground to make everyone happy (or not as mad) they simply chose not to.
@Krlozgod They did initially for all games, only just recently they’ve begun to match prices with other platforms for third-party games as seemingly they’ve allowed publishers to set their own prices which gives me some hope that they’ll do so here as well, however first-party games remained considerably higher as Sony is both the publisher and distributor.
To give some example for the “just don’t buy it” crowd, I’ve got preordered Wolverine for around $900 MXN ($52 USD) on disc with some retailer’s coupon and it’ll now probably cost upwards of $1,500 MXN ($86 USD) to buy it on digital and after 2028 it’ll be the ONLY option that’s if by then they don’t raise base prices to $80 USD, if this permeates to every game from every publisher it’ll simply become impossible to keep consuming on PlayStation as much as I like their games, really can’t make it more clear how much a problem it is to keep removing customers’ options.
I’m from Mexico and this move will basically determine if I keep consuming PlayStation at all, I’m uneasy because this could either mean fair prices on the PS Store after years, decades of being significantly more expensive than Xbox, Steam and the eShop for most games, or charge even more based on whatever conversion rate they come up with as they did on Brazil, where some games ended up costing 300% more than any other platforms.
In theory it’s the right move as we’ve had prices in USD since the PS3 days(!) but this is Sony we’re talking about, if they treat all consumers like garbage us LATAM users are a complete afterthought, we don’t even have proper PS+ Premium and here physical media remains extremely relevant, also, isn’t a bit a ridiculous than in the middle of an all-digital push they will take down the store for 2 full days and pause any sales until late September? PS Store is so archaic for real…
@8th_Observer I’m sure for some that’s true and I was wrong in generalizing it and calling out someone who didn’t act like that, yet I’ve seen users who actively click and engage in every single article regarding physical games only to dismiss the issue, if they’re so tired of this online discussion why keep engaging with it? Are those particular people really ‘tired of the discussion’ or for some bizarre reason they can’t stand to read some criticism against their favorite brand?
@8th_Observer Did you miss the part where he said this whole discussion of physical copies is old and tiring? And again, I made my comment out of frustration because in every single article that talks about physical games there’s comments like that trying to disregard this whole issue as if there’s no discussion to be made, like if you really find all this an exhausting topic just ignore it and keep buying games however you like instead of clicking on every article trying to insist this is a non-issue because it doesn’t affect you (again I’m talking in general to all who have been behaving like this since this was announced, not towards you or anyone in particular).
@8th_Observer I said acted like it, and you don’t need to be frothing mad, only not try to immediately dismiss, downplay or disregard all the complaints from the people who do have a legitimate problem with this decision and still buy their games on physical discs, is it really that hard?
@NimrodNation20 I guess you’ll be tired to read stories like this for years to come because the discourse will simply not go away even after the 2028 deadline if not addressed in any way, specially if you frequent sites like Push Square which is filled with decades-long PS fans who happen to have their collection in physical discs.
And sorry for the harsh term (in my defense I only said you acted like it), I just get very frustrated when someone tries to dismiss this whole issue, I understand there’s many who are not affected or simply don’t care about this, and it’s ok as it’s your opinion and your money, but at least let us voice our frustrations and cherish the little things we still have left for physical releases like this before immediately trying to downplay it or disregard it.
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Re: Tech Experts Call GTA 6 'the Most Impressive Example of Real-Time Rendering We've Ever Seen'
@Steve_BTW Pushed how exactly? I remember they marketed it as the game was solely possible on PS5 and its groundbreaking SSD but playing it felt like another R&C game and only a year later it turned out to run fine on PCs with HDDs…
To me Returnal was more technically impressive and felt more “next-gen” from that same year, but still I’d argue we haven’t seen a game that truly pushes the PS5 to its limit until now.
Re: Tech Experts Call GTA 6 'the Most Impressive Example of Real-Time Rendering We've Ever Seen'
@Steve_BTW Nah honestly they can’t be directly compared, Death Stranding is a barren world by design with no NPCs in the open world whatsoever, almost no interiors and no ray-tracing at all, what we saw yesterday is impressive and shouldn’t be disregarded.
Re: So, Erm, Where's Forza Horizon 6 on PS5?
@8th_Observer Not upset but continuously disappointed in the entitled tone of several articles recently, this site didn’t use to rely so much in flaming users and console warring but I see they’re taking cues from social media where everything is more toxic but it does generate more engagement so I guess it’s working?
Re: So, Erm, Where's Forza Horizon 6 on PS5?
@8th_Observer Then what’s the point of this article? Only to try and flame PS users against Xbox trying to spark some controversy because a release date –for a game that is publicly announced and confirmed– hasn’t been announced yet, and some have already taken the bait.
And I personally find laughable the sheer hypocrisy and entitlement of a PS site almost demanding with pitchforks and torches the release date for an Xbox port when mere months ago they were dismissing all PC players as ‘port-beggars’…
Re: So, Erm, Where's Forza Horizon 6 on PS5?
Wait. Didn’t Push Square complained a few months back that “port-begging” was unbearable? 🤣
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2026/03/no-one-is-buying-this-on-ps5-pc-port-begging-already-unbearable-as-sony-switches-strategy
The port is confirmed and will be announced and released in due time, what else do you expect?
Re: Sony Reminds PS5 Owners Their Digital Games Are Licensed, Not Sold
@AdamNovice It’s Sony who send out an email to remind people we own nothing mere weeks after announcing the end of physical discs.
You don’t think people have a right to be pissed?
It’s always “leave the corporation alone” from you.
Re: PS5 Console Exclusive Phantom Blade Zero Poised for Gargantuan Launch
@get2sammyb I think he meant that while this article is about how well it’s estimated to sell on PC you shoved in the “PS5 Console Exclusive” in the title.
Re: 'We Don't Need to Aggressively Sell the Console': Sony CEO Says Timing of Memory Crisis Is 'Lucky' for PS5
I can’t believe people who still defend how out of touch Sony is, it’s so arrogant how they literally feel too big to fail but bigger empires have fallen, corporate and otherwise…
Re: PS6's Purported $1,000 Price Point Could Lead to a 40% Slump in Sales
@ShadowRJ Exactly. Enthusiasts as ourselves have already little incentive to get a PS6 as a main platform, hardware might be cheaper than Helix or building a PC but in the long run without physical games and the platform being monopolized by the PS Store I can guarantee that after buying a few games it’ll end up being more expensive than any other option.
I feel Sony is having some sort of mirage right now, where they say “there’s no impact to the business” for all their recent decisions because GTA 6 will inflate their numbers substantially a couple of quarters, BUT after its launch as console sales fall to their lowest ever while trying to market a $1000+ PS6 we’ll see if they dare to repeat “there’s no impact to the business”…
Re: PS6's Purported $1,000 Price Point Could Lead to a 40% Slump in Sales
It will be a mortal blow for the console market overall, we’re severely underestimating how easily the casual audience will simply move on from console gaming altogether and find another cheaper hobbies, and us enthusiasts who still want a console, we are going to be squeezed to the last dime as companies will try to maintain the same revenue with 40% less audience or more.
Re: 'Tiny Team' Working on Next Horizon Single Player Game, Years Away from Release
The very first thing I thought back in 2021 when Sony was bragging about 10+ live services was that all those resources were taken away from single-player games, and both execs and diehard fanboys (even right here in the comments) proclaimed time and time again that it wouldn’t disrupt the single-player releases, and well, the obvious ended up happening…
Re: PlayStation Scaling Back Horizon Live Service PS5 Game as Sony Failures Continue
What a waste of time and resources, we’d be closing out the Horizon trilogy right now if Guerrilla (as all PS Studios this generation) wouldn’t be making something no one but Sony execs asked for.
Re: 'It's a Relentless Onslaught': Wolverine PS5 Dev Responds to Unprecedented Criticism
If you cherry pick you will find comments like these for EVERYTHING.
Twitter/X is the land where everyone is miserable, they act like a hate mob and right now Sony is a prime target for that mob, eventually they’ll move on to hate something else.
Re: Halo: Campaign Evolved PS5 Update Lands Next Week with Tech Fixes
@Can-You-Believe-Sith Specially with how much it messes with PSSR, while I like this release for being classic Halo CE, it continues to demonstrate how incompetent this studio is for what was one of the biggest gaming franchises of all time.
Re: Ghost of Yotei's PS5 Complete Edition Will Get a Physical Disc, But There Are Already Concerns
@Flaming_Kaiser Would you want to alienate your most loyal audience by entirely getting rid of physical media or just keep it as a limited option for those who want it so they stay on your platform?
We can’t expect Sony to do what we consider to be logical but rather the greediest option of them all.
Re: Ghost of Yotei's PS5 Complete Edition Will Get a Physical Disc, But There Are Already Concerns
@Balaam_ You must think in terms of what shareholders want, would they want to sell you a drive to play all the games you have or rather force you into buying all your games again?
At this point I wouldn’t be shocked if some Sony exec ends up saying “fortunately we have a product for people who want to play their physical games, it’s called PlayStation 5”…
Re: Round Up: Marvel's Wolverine Sounds Like Another Great Superhero Blockbuster in PS5 Previews
Something about this game just doesn’t hook me, I went from wanting it day one after 2021’s announcement to not being sure if I will get it at all, way more hyped for Phantom Blade Zero and Control Resonant.
Re: Ghost of Yotei: Complete Edition Announced, Includes New Expansion, Game Mode, More
I’ll pass, the thing that annoyed me the most from the base game was having these flashbacks switching from present to past to tell the story.
Re: Marvel's Wolverine Limited Edition PS5 Consoles, Controllers Announced, Pre-Orders Next Week
Why can’t we just get basic black plates for PS5 Pro? I’m not convinced about the design, the silver one looks decent but I wouldn’t rush to buy it, the yellow one is simply not for me at all lol
Re: Opinion: Ghost of Yotei Was a Weirdly Disappointing Sequel After Loving Tsushima
I agree and it’s a trend for every sequel that we’ve got this generation, Yotei, Ragnarok, Spider-Man 2, Forbidden West have felt a bit formulaic and not as impactful as the games that came before, still great games but gameplay is too similar and there barely was an evolution between entries while the story in my opinion has been a clear letdown for all these sequels.
Re: Marvel Tokon Launches to Mixed Reviews on PC, PS5 Players Encouraged to Disable Crossplay
@HonestHick And also remains the only account where you can’t change your region, so if you are in an unsupported country and make an US account you won’t ever be able to change it, PS Support will literally tell you “just make another account”.
Their digital infrastructure is simply archaic and as far as we know there’s zero improvements planned as they simply not care, they really said “take it or leave” and as for me I’m clear that PS won’t be my main platform come next generation.
Re: Disc-Based PS5s Now Warn Buyers About the Impending Death of Physical Games
@naruball Exactly, Sony (and most major gaming companies nowadays) are severely underestimating how easily the casual audience will simply move on from console gaming altogether, it already is happening this generation as the console audience keeps shrinking from the heights of the 2010’s, many young people are simply not interested in consoles even at their 2020 price and why many companies including Sony are shifting towards squeezing money out of their customers rather than gaining new users but that’s simply unsustainable on the long term.
I’m seeing GTA 6’s launch as a last hurrah for the console market before things really start to get ugly.
Re: Disc-Based PS5s Now Warn Buyers About the Impending Death of Physical Games
The ultimate confirmation this is set in stone, there’s no countermeasures planned or any improvements whatsoever for the all-digital ecosystem, it’s really an ultimatum of “this is what we offer, take it or leave it” and I honestly expect them to remain in that cocky attitude up until the PS6 struggles to sell after launch which will inevitably happen.
They’re banking on the casual audience to keep buying the brand forever but they’ll leave as soon as they see the price tag and the enthusiasts who were willing to pay any price are the ones who Sony is forfeiting with their decisions, if you want any indication on how “loyal” the casual audience is just look at how many jumped from the PS2 to PS3 (barely half of its user base), the PSP to PS Vita losing 3/4 of its user base or an even more dramatic case with the Wii and Wii U losing 90% of its audience, and yes I’m aware those are different circumstances and times but no brand is invulnerable of flying too close to the sun…
Re: Xbox Will Copy PlayStation's Platinum Trophy Later This Year
Insane, a company listening to feedback and actually doing something about it
Re: 'We're Entering This Next Chapter from a Position of Strength': EA Completes $55 Billion Buyout
Rest in pieces, EA.
Re: Ex-Wrestler Dave Bautista in Talks to Take Over from Ryan Hurst as Kratos in God of War TV Show
Dave is a good actor but this show is full of red flags now.
Re: Could Xbox Get Its Revenge on PS6 by Supporting Physical Games?
It’d be poetic but let’s not kid ourselves, Microsoft began the all-digital push ever since 2013, Game Pass is also a big push for it, 90% of their recent physical releases are nothing more than game key-discs, and to be honest they’ve actually invested in having a better digital ecosystem, there’s no incentive for them to keep supporting physical discs other than a few days of positive clout on social media.
Re: 'We Are Not Seeing Any Impact on Our Business': Sony Says Physical Disc Backlash Is Having Zero Effect
@TDHorizon I think you’re confusing installment plans to subsidizing, the way many phones are sold with carriers is that they include the cell services within the price of the phone for X months and ends up being cheaper than buying the phone outright and separately paying for cell service (effectively subsidizing the price of the phone), consoles simply don’t work like that, there’s no one selling PS5s with unlimited games included for a monthly price, MS attempted something like that with Xbox and Game Pass back in 2021 but it didn’t take off.
The latest trend as shown by Apple this week is hardware leasing which to me is completely dystopian but I can already see the pitch on the console side, personally I’d rather sell my old hardware to buy new one or simply buy older or refurbished devices before paying a monthly fee for hardware I will never own.
Re: 'We Are Not Seeing Any Impact on Our Business': Sony Says Physical Disc Backlash Is Having Zero Effect
@TDHorizon I get it but that’s an apple to oranges comparison, phones nowadays are almost essential and many subsidized with carriers whereas consoles are not, in fact the console market has been shrinking and younger generations are not as interested on AAA gaming, the few ones who do are quickly getting priced out of gaming altogether which makes existing console makers more reliant on the existing audience to keep spending more and more.
Re: 'We Are Not Seeing Any Impact on Our Business': Sony Says Physical Disc Backlash Is Having Zero Affect
Let’s see if they keep this cocky attitude when they try to sell us on a $1000+ PS6.
Re: PS5's Monthly Active Users Increased Again, PS Plus Making More Money Than Ever
@tangyzesty It’s sad to read any comment cheering on the corporation for making more money while trying to ridicule the customers who disagree with their decisions, it’s obvious that any effect of their recent decisions will not be immediate, these numbers don’t even include any data after the July 1st announcement but you didn’t care to read that, only to cheer for Sony.
And I’m not saying there will be a large-scale boycott or a big sudden dip in their revenue stream, but do you seriously expect them to do this good when they try to sell us on a PS6?
The effect will be gradual, just look at Xbox now, a shell of its former shelf selling less than half than a decade ago yet still exists, PlayStation is not invulnerable to failure or gradually dwindle over time in the same way.
Re: Sony Has Secured Enough Memory to Meet PS5's Projected Sales Through March 2027
Don’t be quick to dismiss any potential price increase, they literally said something similar mere weeks before announcing this year’s price hike…
Re: Sony Knows How You Feel About No More Discs, But It's Not Going to Reverse Course
Wow. I mean I already expected them to not reverse course but I did expect some kind of counter announcement but nah, they sh*t on us and expect us to thank them.
For anyone thinking they would distribute digital games as they did back with the PS4 they just confirmed they won’t, their only retail presence moving forward will be code-in-a-box for select games while monopolizing the PS Store, I just hope they face a mountain of legal challenges in every single market, if they’re unwilling to budge hopefully some regulator will go nuclear and force Sony to open the platform as they did with Apple, even if it upends their entire business, I even hope it does at this point, whatever hurts them the most.
Re: PlayStation Expects Record Breaking Fiscal Year for PS5, Despite Economic Challenges
The most gaslighting earnings report ever “these are tough times for YOU so we jack up your prices and remove your options so that WE keep doing better than ever”.
Re: EA's Controversial $55 Billion Buyout to Close Next Week
I honestly expect all single-player games from EA to cease to exist, we will get whatever is already in development (like Jedi 3) but I fully expect them to turn into a full sports live-service predatory game company that I’ll continue to not consume.
Re: 8 Ways Sony Must Improve the PS Store for Our All-Digital Future
Also there must be some separation between your account where you “own” all your games and your social profile, meaning that if you get banned online justifiably or not on whatever game you won’t lose everything you’ve invested in that account.
Re: 8 Ways Sony Must Improve the PS Store for Our All-Digital Future
One big thing missing is security, it’s by far the most vulnerable account of any modern platform as it can be easily hacked through social engineering and the platform provides zero security measures to prevent it as it can be done even if you have passkeys/2FA enabled in your account.
Also region flexibility, not only allow any account to switch regions with its due limits but it’s imperative they get rid of distributing Asian, European and American editions for all games separately and distribute one global version as every platform does.
Re: Save $100 on PSVR2 Now, Sony's Underrated PS5 Peripheral
@get2sammyb And there’s hundreds of VR games that just ignored the platform because Sony refused to support it.
Re: Early Data Suggests Unspectacular Start for Halo on PS5
Guess more reasons for MS to keep it exclusive…
Re: Angry PlayStation Fans Propose PS5 Blackout in Protest of Sony's Disc Decision
I heavily disagree with many of Sony’s recent decisions but this is just silly, my PS5 stays off for more time randomly throughout the year when I want to play on my other consoles or do something else instead.
This whole debacle has been ugly to watch, on one hand these grifter accounts are having tons of engagement doing ragebait posts one after another and now they feel in the position of organizing a large-scale boycott which I’m sorry it’s laughable, they hypocritically repost that image of “f*** Sony” on discs while also sharing how excited they are for GTA 6 or to replay Black Ops on PS5, but on the other hand Sony’s deafening silence and lack of any countermeasure has been making everything worse and will only continue to escalate.
Re: PS5's Next Big Exclusive Dated, and It's Closer Than You Think
@Nightcrawler71 I don’t think so, Santa Monica immediately moved over from Ragnarok to Laufey, while Guerrilla has been making their Horizon live-service that no one wants.
Re: PSN Down and Sputtering After Amazon Web Services Outage
Amazing timing to show everyone how ready Sony’s infrastructure is for an all-digital future…
Re: 'They May As Well Eliminate the Hardware Too': Japanese Dev Says Sony 'Doesn't Understand' the Feelings of Fans
@AdamNovice A business that has been most profitable this generation than any other according to Sony themselves, even counting the billions of losses for pursuing failed live-services.
I really don’t get why every single time there’s an article talking about physical media and its value for many people all the corporate defenders come here and spit the same nonsense trying to dismiss it and becoming a trivial debate of “us vs them”, y’all act like Sony’s shareholders while getting absolutely nothing the same as the rest of us, no options, no ownership and higher prices, if you don’t want to complain or don’t see any value in physical media it’s fine, but to click every article to actively defend oh-precious Sony and its business is simply pathetic.
Re: Sales Data Paints a Very Grim Picture for Physical PS5 Games in the USA
Read the full data before rallying on the comments justifying Sony’s decisions as if you were shareholders yourselves, sure only 7 games have managed to sell more than 100,000 copies but 35% for Ghost of Yōtei is still pretty significant, specially since it being a first-party game it relies solely on selling copies on PS consoles, by ceasing a physical release they’re essentially forfeiting 1/3 of sales for any first-party game which only spells future problems for first-party studios.
I still find it jarring they went for the nuclear option of ceasing physical discs altogether instead of keeping it as a more expensive and niche option for those willing to pay for it, they easily could have found a middle-ground to make everyone happy (or not as mad) they simply chose not to.
Re: PS5's Regional Pricing Switch Has Players Concerned Yet Again, Here's What's Happening
@Krlozgod They did initially for all games, only just recently they’ve begun to match prices with other platforms for third-party games as seemingly they’ve allowed publishers to set their own prices which gives me some hope that they’ll do so here as well, however first-party games remained considerably higher as Sony is both the publisher and distributor.
To give some example for the “just don’t buy it” crowd, I’ve got preordered Wolverine for around $900 MXN ($52 USD) on disc with some retailer’s coupon and it’ll now probably cost upwards of $1,500 MXN ($86 USD) to buy it on digital and after 2028 it’ll be the ONLY option that’s if by then they don’t raise base prices to $80 USD, if this permeates to every game from every publisher it’ll simply become impossible to keep consuming on PlayStation as much as I like their games, really can’t make it more clear how much a problem it is to keep removing customers’ options.
Re: PS5's Regional Pricing Switch Has Players Concerned Yet Again, Here's What's Happening
I’m from Mexico and this move will basically determine if I keep consuming PlayStation at all, I’m uneasy because this could either mean fair prices on the PS Store after years, decades of being significantly more expensive than Xbox, Steam and the eShop for most games, or charge even more based on whatever conversion rate they come up with as they did on Brazil, where some games ended up costing 300% more than any other platforms.
In theory it’s the right move as we’ve had prices in USD since the PS3 days(!) but this is Sony we’re talking about, if they treat all consumers like garbage us LATAM users are a complete afterthought, we don’t even have proper PS+ Premium and here physical media remains extremely relevant, also, isn’t a bit a ridiculous than in the middle of an all-digital push they will take down the store for 2 full days and pause any sales until late September? PS Store is so archaic for real…
Re: Look Away Now, Sony: Demand for Mortal Shell 2 in Physical Form Sees PS5 Boxed Copies Sell Out
@8th_Observer I’m sure for some that’s true and I was wrong in generalizing it and calling out someone who didn’t act like that, yet I’ve seen users who actively click and engage in every single article regarding physical games only to dismiss the issue, if they’re so tired of this online discussion why keep engaging with it? Are those particular people really ‘tired of the discussion’ or for some bizarre reason they can’t stand to read some criticism against their favorite brand?
Re: Look Away Now, Sony: Demand for Mortal Shell 2 in Physical Form Sees PS5 Boxed Copies Sell Out
@8th_Observer Did you miss the part where he said this whole discussion of physical copies is old and tiring? And again, I made my comment out of frustration because in every single article that talks about physical games there’s comments like that trying to disregard this whole issue as if there’s no discussion to be made, like if you really find all this an exhausting topic just ignore it and keep buying games however you like instead of clicking on every article trying to insist this is a non-issue because it doesn’t affect you (again I’m talking in general to all who have been behaving like this since this was announced, not towards you or anyone in particular).
Re: Look Away Now, Sony: Demand for Mortal Shell 2 in Physical Form Sees PS5 Boxed Copies Sell Out
@8th_Observer I said acted like it, and you don’t need to be frothing mad, only not try to immediately dismiss, downplay or disregard all the complaints from the people who do have a legitimate problem with this decision and still buy their games on physical discs, is it really that hard?
Re: Look Away Now, Sony: Demand for Mortal Shell 2 in Physical Form Sees PS5 Boxed Copies Sell Out
@NimrodNation20 I guess you’ll be tired to read stories like this for years to come because the discourse will simply not go away even after the 2028 deadline if not addressed in any way, specially if you frequent sites like Push Square which is filled with decades-long PS fans who happen to have their collection in physical discs.
And sorry for the harsh term (in my defense I only said you acted like it), I just get very frustrated when someone tries to dismiss this whole issue, I understand there’s many who are not affected or simply don’t care about this, and it’s ok as it’s your opinion and your money, but at least let us voice our frustrations and cherish the little things we still have left for physical releases like this before immediately trying to downplay it or disregard it.