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All to make the rich richer, for something that nobody asked for, or even wants. This is mining 2.0.

On a related note, this does make me worry about the new Steam Machine, presumably prices have not been revealed yet because they’re trying to figure out how the heck they’re going to secure the RAM while still keeping the cost below $1000.

@Junghova yeah, I hear ya on that. I just replied separately but my sentiments echoed yours. I’m only a few short years away from 40 years playing games (more like 35 for me) and I’m the same way though. Big “been there, done that” vibes for 99% of releases.

Relating to the article, I couldn’t care less about the next system. This will most likely be the last console I ever buy. The graphics are peak, the games are great and span multiple generations, seriously there are enough games to play for over a decade. The controller is perfect, the SSD loads games damn near instantly, it has all the media apps I could ever want, I can stream right to YouTube from it with the push of a button.. it does everything I’d like it to do. We’ve hit peak with console specs and it simply doesn’t need to go any higher. Been gaming since the OG Gameboy.

Anyway my next gaming purchase will be a Steam Machine and likely nothing ever again after that. Everything else has gone to hell in this industry with Valve as the exception, and will continue to do so as gaming circles the toilet.

@Junghova what do you mean? You’re not buying any more in favor of PC, or playing only old games, or backlog, etc? I’m at the same point you are so I’m wondering what you mean specifically.

@Neonix Thanks for clarifying, right so that's better than not being upgradeable at all. But these direct 1:1 comparisons of the Steam Machine to a PS5 is really silly. The hope that a new device will somehow be cheaper than something that came out 5 years ago but with newer tech is something else...

Who ever thought this would cost $500? In today’s economy especially? And with AI spiking the prices of computer hardware, GPUs in particular? I was guessing it would start at $800 with different versions going up to $1000. It’s a gaming PC, not a console. And it’s upgradable from what I understand, but don’t quote me on that.

People expecting the prices of luxury items to go down when the rest of the world gets more expensive are delusional.

The only Call of Duty game I’ve ever played is the one with the zombie mini game, many years ago, so I know basically nothing about this franchise. But this review is hysterical reading it as someone who thought the franchise was a military shooter themed around some war, somewhere, at some point in time.

@bossuche9 thanks for the clarification.

This looks totally insane and I’m all about it. Been wanting to get back into something zombie related.

What about the console being language locked makes it cheaper? Or does the article mean it’s comprised of cheaper components? It’s a little ambiguous.

Don't forget you can use a mouse and keyboard on PS5. That's how I play, so I play with crossplay on, since it would seem unfair to play against controller users. Not to toot my own horn because I kinda suck at BF, but going against only controller users is definitely unfair for them.

It’s absolute lunacy that a corporation ever tried charging you to use your own internet service in the first place. To hell with Microsoft for starting in on this. Like every other corporation isn’t trying to gouge you for everything. Come on.

I loved Downhill and played the heck out of it on my Switch - though it had a stutter issue that would kill your run that happened every couple of minutes. Would love to try the sequel but would only entertain it on PS5 so this is cool news!

@LikelySatan humans have always done everything wrong. Unfortunately part of what makes us human is our ability to care for others, and choosing not to in pursuit of our own goals.

In this case, pursuit of more money = disincentive to hire people when AI is an "option". Who cares about artistic integrity when there is shareholder value to consider? Etc etc.

All depends if it has mouse and keyboard support. I can’t play first person shooters with a controller. I can’t for the life of me figure out why these things are never advertised since it’s such a nice way to play on console.

Battlefield 6 has m&k support but I was not able to find this information anywhere, luckily the beta answered my question!

@Runex2121 that would really be interesting to you? A game by a computer based off the work of actual games made by humans? And then eventually, based off the games made by robots? Completely soulless, void of any human expression? THAT'S what you want to spend 50-70 hours of your life doing?

@Retron this sounds the most plausible. Plus if they keep releasing halo remakes, they would have to keep remaking multiplayer systems, which would fragment all the players. It makes more sense to have a single point of multiplayer since these games already exist and aren’t brand new titles, as unconventional as it might be.

@Czar_Khastik that might be the first good chuckle I’ve had from these comment sections!

Something slightly unrelated - the Pro iterations are interesting in that, if you own a base PS5, the less incentive there is to buy a Pro as time goes on. 1) it’s getting too close to the next main iteration, so why spend the money upgrading, and 2) I’ve played through so many games already that are PS5 Pro optimized, but on the base PS5, and it was completely fine. So now I’m perfectly used to and ok with playing these games without that setting.

So what incentive is there to upgrade from a base model, if you don’t do it immediately upon release?

You could have a billion in the bank, but there’s only so many hours in a day to play games. I just finished Silksong, about 50 hours since release, and will likely buy Battlefield on release, but then won’t buy anything for 5-6 months until I want to play something other than Battlefield. I only play one game at a time these days.

@Olskeezy don’t mind these kids, when they lose access to 75% of their games in a few years they’ll happily pay ever-increasing subscription fees again and again to access them, while saying “thank you sir, may I have another!”

I don’t disagree that the hardware is expensive (and getting more expensive, somehow), but if you consider $550 bought during the first year of release, and if you only buy games on sale or from PS+, you’re looking at a $150-200 per year for hours of daily entertainment, plus you have a media center built in. I use my PS5 for absolutely everything, it’s one of my favorite things I own. It’s expensive sure, but if you’re into the games it offers and you buy when they go on sale, it really isn’t terrible for what you get out of it. PS5 was my first PlayStation console since the PS2 and just the games included with PS+ (all the classics) kept me busy for like 18 months straight, didn’t spend a dime except for a spare controller.

I get it though. Everything is super expensive now. But dollar per hour of entertainment, gaming still ranks pretty high on the value scale.

Already bought and played Cocoon - it was spectacular! Nice offerings this month.

The controller argument doesn't make sense, since you can play on console with a K&M. In fact that's how I played during the beta - I can't aim worth a damn on a controller so I plug in my K&M and have a blast. And I play crossplay because I don't think it would be fair to go against only console players, most of whom use a controller.

@Ultimapunch I haven’t thought about Borderlands for a long time, but I think the exact same thing happened to me. I played the first one and really liked it. Immediately got the second game when it came out, and it was very overwhelming with how many weapon drops there were. I remember constantly having to compare stats and I decided it wasn’t for me anymore.

@ShadowRJ This, and they only need to manufacture one console instead of two different SKUs. Plus the disc drive. In theory that should keep costs lower, even if they lower the price of the console (to entice more buyers) and shift that extra $20-30 over to the drive, physical buyers will pay it regardless and then everyone wins.

I’m surprised sales aren’t always like this for the MH franchise. It’s playerbase is pretty hardcore into it, I’d guess most daily players would update to the newest game the day it dropped, isn’t it natural that sales would peak at release and after expansions seeing a surge of new players?

10M is awesome, how many can they possibly sell? 100M? 1B?

@Reyzore that's always bothered me about the evolution of computing. Now that you have more memory, more drive space, more power, you are free to be less efficient with those things. And then as the games evolve, "oh shoot, now I need more". And the cycle repeats.

These are some nice offerings, I've already played Stardew but.. well it's Stardew Valley. Looking forward to trying Psychonauts and a 3D puzzler is always a fun time.

It’s kind of insane that merely downloading the game disqualifies you from a refund. The whole purchase path streamlines installing the game.. the buy button turns into a Download button. That should not be grounds for disqualification if the game wasn’t even launched.

This policy stinks. It stunk before and it still stinks now.

Aeterna Lucis.. oh man I can’t wait for that one. Haven’t gotten really into a game in what feels like ages, now all these drops come right around the same time! Going to be a great fall and winter!

@GoodOlDubs easiest thing to do would be to see if those games support m&k, see my post above ⬆️

@StarZinger yeah man it’s great! I just plugged in a USB-C extender, connected to a USB hub, then connect a wired mouse and keyboard to the hub. A bit of a mess of wires but I like not having to Bluetooth pair anything, plus zero latency.

I play on my recliner with the arm rest as the mousepad and lay the keyboard in my lap

@StarZinger I have recently been playing a few games on PS5 with my mouse and keyboard plugged in and it's been great. Hopefully Satisfactory coming to PS5 will have mouse and keyboard support, since it already has that on the PC version.

I basically tried the Battlefield 6 beta just to test out if it support m&k on PS5 (it does) and that confirmed my purchase, it makes first person games so much better.

@Oram77 If I may, why I liked it: extremely precise controls, high-response gameplay, tough but fair bosses that demand focus, gorgeous environments and visuals, an excellent creepy atmospheric soundtrack, excellent platforming, great map design with lots to discover and explore, and overall a very satisfying gameplay loop.. it scores exceptionally high across all categories.

@DaveTheRave solid argument. 🙄

@UltimateOtaku91 why do “we” “need” a COD killer again? Who’s we and why is this required, as if the two can’t exist independently

Any word on mouse and keyboard support? I got really into 2042 but at a certain point I hit my skill ceiling with a controller, with crossplay on I got pretty wrecked, with it off I could barely find a game to play in!

This looks like a lot of fun. Nothing has stuck for me since January, been trying a few here and there but haven’t seen anything through to the end in a while.

I mean, we’re already seeing AI generated content clog up everything else, it makes sense that something as lucrative as video games would be a victim as well. If it can be produced for next to nothing, in a huge quantity (ie. release several games at a time), you just hope a few people buy it on a sale and have some easy money coming in.

So many games get released it’s virtually impossible for Sony (or any other storefront operator) to vet them all. Perhaps vetting the publisher themselves is an easier one to manage.

I knew this kind of thing was going to happen from the instant I learned about gaming subscription services many years ago. Then, everyone loses their mind if a game is priced higher than $60, while also complaining that the developers are underpaid and overworked. Then layoffs happen and everyone is surprised.

This is what happens when an entertainment medium is locked at a price, despite rising costs not just in production but also salaries paid to the people producing it rising. That's why the prices are going above $60!

Ya'll act so surprised but then freak when the prices go up. Yeah, that is how prices work - they go up over time. It is called inflation. The only thing on planet earth that hasn't really moved up in price in the last 30 years is video games.

@crackeastwood All industries need competition*. Microsoft messed a lot of things up with regard to gaming (like paid subscriptions to play online, for instance) but they kept Sony in check. I don’t even know if Sony and Nintendo consider themselves direct competitors, seems lately the only thing they’re competing for lately is your time.

• typed “innovation” on the first pass for some reason- fixed.

@16BitHero why are you telling us any of that? Nobody cares if you play PC games. It means nothing, your comment is meaningless.

@Ironcore this always struck me as completely ridiculous as well, and I’ve played both the first and second games and enjoyed them immensely. This isn’t traveling across a small town during a snow storm, it’s an entire city that’s filled with gangs, religious cults, and zombies - I think it’s insane that revenge is ever considered an option at all in such a harsh environment, particularly for two teenaged girls, who make it look way too easy traveling through a zombie infested violent wasteland.

It’s fine in a game but watching this happen in a show sure does feel a whole other level of irresponsible. In reality Ellie would have been ripped to shreds 20x over so far if it weren’t for the plot armor.

What does one do with an art book? Open it and look at it, then put it away in a drawer for a couple of years?

@Juanalf you’re right - it isn’t the 90s and 2000s anymore, and with inflation it’s technically a bargain spending even $80 if you consider the cost of games increasing as well as inflation, while most games still go for $60 or less. You might not like that reality but nearly every single area of product or service has gone up in cost to match inflation.

Let me ask, would it be reasonable to pay $60, 20 years from now? 40 years? 50?

Gyro aiming or mouse and keyboard support. Mostly for bows. The lack of either is the only reason I haven’t picked it up yet. I get that mouse and keyboard support is a larger ask but gyro aiming for bows would be perfect. I just don’t like playing first person perspective games with a controller when it comes to aiming.

Helldivers 2 did it very well (gyro aiming when in first person aiming mode) and made it so seamless.

I played the hell out of Oblivion years ago on PC and would love nothing more to revisit. But until they add mouse and keyboard support (or gyro aiming would actually be preferable) I won’t pull the trigger. I always end up with a stealth build and you can’t aim a bow very well with a controller, or at least I can’t. Feels too unnatural.

Pretty bummed at the exclusion, first Doom Eternal and now the remaster of one of my favorites of all time.

Any word on mouse and keyboard support for PS5?

You’re missing one of my favorites, 7 Days to Die! I play it with a USB-C extension cord that I connect to a USB hub, which then connects my mouse and keyboard. It’s a mess of wires draped across my lap while playing but it works great.