@thefourfoldroot1 You are not The only one. I tried FF12 three different times at very different points in my life. Got to the second town once. Not for me.
At least as terrible as 13 was, it still had a story that pulled you along... corridor by linear corridor.
@Matroska Well if the demo is like 2 hours of cut scenes, and they said the game is basically 40 hours and you can double it with bonus content, it sounds like it's going to be a final fantasy 13 situation where they hold your hand thru cutscenes until you get to gran pulse, I mean the end game. Hope not, but quick maths.
@Sakai Squares problem is media oversaturation. They spend too much money so everybody talks about them all the time and more often than not, We don't have anything nice to say anymore. They make it kind of easy when they drop stuff like babylon's fall and forspoken, And then beg and panic over final fantasy.
But yeah people will say this is sony this time, when they do this for every FF and oversaturate media w PRs for everything else. They had pop up cafes in jamie oliver restaurants for final fantasy fifteen.
But yeah, they DO blow a ridiculous amount of money on marketing for everything and then complain they didn't get their money back, because they don't know how to market for crap. They just throw a lot of money away because they have a lot of money to burn.
@rachetmarvel When I was like ten the scifi channel would run some classics in the morning like Akira, Roujin Z, Record of Lodoss War, Vampire Hunter D, etc.
I'm not going to lower myself to Azumanga Daioh. I'm not an elitist. Just snooty. With all media really. Art house D-head here.
Suzuki goes on to say that he hopes "those who have never played an action game before can go and try out Final Fantasy 16. I hope this game will give you a chance to experience the allure that an action game can bring.”
I mean they had a marketing push saying they were going to bring old school fans back into the fold. That failed! Most of us think this doesn't even look like FF/an actual RPG.
@Jireland92 Seriously. this site is almost as bad as the weeby fan sites like noisy pixel. The only thing push square hasn't reported on (yet) is the overpriced fan service garbage trinkets.
@Qu1n0n3z Some people are tired of gaming companies just straight lying to them like this. Square isn't the only company that does this kind of bait and switch announcement before launch, But it might be the only company to some gamers.
Didn't they say something weeks ago like They could have made it on PS4 but it would have taken too long? and here They do the "only would work on ps5" conversation again.
Yeah if you didn't know this was going to happen welcome to reality. where have you been?
Idiots on youtube are also leaking something about a final fantasy ten remake. That would just solidify the fact square has no ideas others than milk the best sellers.
@themightyant Yeah I might check this out on a console because i've been waiting for another eden to come to consoles forever, and I don't think it will. There's never been any indication it would. I just hoped. I cannot game on the phone at all.
I mean you're putting up money for a random result, that IS gambling, that is lottery. It isn't a matter of what the critics say, that's a fact. critics just leverage that fact.
But yeah games as a service is huge in Asia. Not so popular here. Consoles exist because we didn't want to pump quarters into the arcade anymore.
That doesn't mean there aren't those people who still get that rush. You know like that rush you get... when you're gambling.
@themightyant true, but the guy is all about blockchain, so this Is just a changing of a guard, not going in a new direction. Matsuda is very unpopular and said some very unsavory things, But nothing out of corporate has suggested this is going in any other direction.
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Re: Final Fantasy 16 (PS5) - Final Fantasy's Triumphant Return to the Top
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Re: First Final Fantasy 16 Review Awards a Near-Perfect Score
@Goku_
Matsuda used "Please be excited"
on famitsu board
It was super effective!
Re: First Final Fantasy 16 Review Awards a Near-Perfect Score
@LifeGirl Hindsight is always 20-20.
"Thats why every modern review..."
I'm talking about when the game dropped, You're talking about retrospectively.
Re: First Final Fantasy 16 Review Awards a Near-Perfect Score
The reviews will be mostly puff pieces and anyone who dares to be critical will get attacked for it. (See Destructoid/ J.S. Sterling - FF13)
Re: First Final Fantasy 16 Review Awards a Near-Perfect Score
@Powerplay94 . The problem is they employ a 10 point scale and use half of it.
Re: First Final Fantasy 16 Review Awards a Near-Perfect Score
@thefourfoldroot1 You are not The only one. I tried FF12 three different times at very different points in my life.
Got to the second town once. Not for me.
At least as terrible as 13 was, it still had a story that pulled you along... corridor by linear corridor.
Re: 1,500+ PS5, PS4 Games on Sale in New PS Store Mid-Year Deals Promo
@Soulless666 Afterimage is great. haven't put it down since it dropped. A must for MV fans.
Re: Random: Talented Pixel Artist Recreates Chrono Trigger's Leene Square in Glorious HD-2D
Might have to make good on my word.They touch chrono trigger they never get another dollar from me ever again.
Re: Final Fantasy 16 PS5 Pre-Load Available Now
@Matroska Well if the demo is like 2 hours of cut scenes, and they said the game is basically 40 hours and you can double it with bonus content, it sounds like it's going to be a final fantasy 13 situation where they hold your hand thru cutscenes until you get to gran pulse, I mean the end game.
Hope not, but quick maths.
Re: PS5 Bundle with Two Years of PS Plus Premium Appears to Leak
Hey guys, all sales are to move stock. That's why they happen.
Re: Another 27 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Available to Download Now
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Re: Final Fantasy 16's PS5 Marketing Hype Peaks with Official Exhibition at Tower of London
@Sakai Squares problem is media oversaturation. They spend too much money so everybody talks about them all the time and more often than not, We don't have anything nice to say anymore. They make it kind of easy when they drop stuff like babylon's fall and forspoken, And then beg and panic over final fantasy.
But yeah people will say this is sony this time, when they do this for every FF and oversaturate media w PRs for everything else.
They had pop up cafes in jamie oliver restaurants for final fantasy fifteen.
But yeah, they DO blow a ridiculous amount of money on marketing for everything and then complain they didn't get their money back, because they don't know how to market for crap. They just throw a lot of money away because they have a lot of money to burn.
Re: Preview: Eternights Puts Some Indie in Your Persona
@rachetmarvel When I was like ten the scifi channel would run some classics in the morning like Akira, Roujin Z, Record of Lodoss War, Vampire Hunter D, etc.
I'm not going to lower myself to Azumanga Daioh. I'm not an elitist. Just snooty. With all media really. Art house D-head here.
Re: Lies of P, Wo Long Collab Announced, More Details Soon
This is a great collaboration.
Re: Preview: Eternights Puts Some Indie in Your Persona
Games like these are why Yoshi P distances himself from the JRPG label.
And I don't blame him because I do the same. Grew up FF and DQ, but no thanks to pervy anime JRPGs, which is basically everything else.
Re: Devil May Cry Designer Crafts Magnum Opus with Final Fantasy 16
@KundaliniRising333 Not on this thread, but I have gone off about how it looks like It's just damage sponges with the horrible stagger system.
I've never been a fan of the DMC "style over substance" combat. FF has been kinda SoS since Nomura though, so that fits actually.
Re: Devil May Cry Designer Crafts Magnum Opus with Final Fantasy 16
@Fiendish-Beaver There are features in the game, like items you can equip, that will auto complete combos for you, etc.
Accessibility features are present, should have no worries
Re: Devil May Cry Designer Crafts Magnum Opus with Final Fantasy 16
@Immortal_Barnet semantic nonsense
Also, You're moving the goalposts, you said "any rpg" and now you're comparing different types.
@C25CLOUD No, it's an action game with rpg elements.
Re: Devil May Cry Designer Crafts Magnum Opus with Final Fantasy 16
@Immortal_Barnet sorry friend, but the "best combat in any RPG" already exists.
It's called Bloodborne.
Re: Devil May Cry Designer Crafts Magnum Opus with Final Fantasy 16
Suzuki goes on to say that he hopes "those who have never played an action game before can go and try out Final Fantasy 16. I hope this game will give you a chance to experience the allure that an action game can bring.”
I mean they had a marketing push saying they were going to bring old school fans back into the fold. That failed! Most of us think this doesn't even look like FF/an actual RPG.
Confirmed. it's not an rpg it's an action game.
Re: Hideo Kojima Clarifies Involvement in Death Stranding Film Adaptation
No thanks i've already watched Cormac McCarthy's "The Road"
on wish.
Re: The Calisto Protocol's Story DLC Is a Timed PS5, PS4 Exclusive for, Er, 48 Hours
Man, that'll teach them a lesson jimmy r.
Re: Just Like Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, Final Fantasy 16 Was Going to Ship on Two PS5 Discs
@Lanmanna None are talking about it this much. Including major rpg sites.
Re: Final Fantasy 16's PS5 File Size Pegged At 90.1GB
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Re: Just Like Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, Final Fantasy 16 Was Going to Ship on Two PS5 Discs
@Jireland92 Seriously. this site is almost as bad as the weeby fan sites like noisy pixel. The only thing push square hasn't reported on (yet) is the overpriced fan service garbage trinkets.
Re: Just Like Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, Final Fantasy 16 Was Going to Ship on Two PS5 Discs
@Qu1n0n3z Some people are tired of gaming companies just straight lying to them like this. Square isn't the only company that does this kind of bait and switch announcement before launch, But it might be the only company to some gamers.
Re: So, Final Fantasy 16 Will Have a Day One Patch on PS5 After All
The level of copium in this comment section is hilarious.
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Dev Pleads for Cooperation As PS5 Game Leaks
they should just be happy that People are so excited for their game.
because people have not been excited For a square enix game in a long time.
after the dead on arrival fanfare for forspoken and babylons fall which pretty much stuck, They should just roll with this and be happy.
Also this feels kind of like another square enix water is wet article. OMG spulerz on the internetz!? Klondike Kat is on the job!
Re: Whoopsie! Square Enix Just Leaked Another Star Ocean Remaster
Probably the best star ocean game and actually worth checking out for fans of the genre.
Re: SEGA Word Salad Attempts to Explain Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth's Name
Oh my God not a turn based game I'm gonna have to buy it and love it now.
Re: Final Fantasy 16's New Trailer Is Here to Remind You It's a PS5 Exclusive for a Reason
Didn't they say something weeks ago like They could have made it on PS4 but it would have taken too long? and here They do the "only would work on ps5" conversation again.
Re: Final Fantasy 16 Has Leaked One Week Early, and We've Already Seen Spoilers Online
Yeah if you didn't know this was going to happen welcome to reality. where have you been?
Idiots on youtube are also leaking something about a final fantasy ten remake. That would just solidify the fact square has no ideas others than milk the best sellers.
Re: Final Fantasy 16's Demo Has Been a Huge Hit With PS5 Players
@Cloud39472 you know there are like 39471 other cloud clones I could talk before you.
Re: Genshin Impact, Honkai: Star Rail Dev's Profits Eclipse Even PlayStation
@themightyant Yeah I might check this out on a console because i've been waiting for another eden to come to consoles forever, and I don't think it will. There's never been any indication it would. I just hoped. I cannot game on the phone at all.
Re: Genshin Impact, Honkai: Star Rail Dev's Profits Eclipse Even PlayStation
@themightyant Real talk i'm too poor to play these games, but they look tight.
Re: Genshin Impact, Honkai: Star Rail Dev's Profits Eclipse Even PlayStation
I mean you're putting up money for a random result, that IS gambling, that is lottery. It isn't a matter of what the critics say, that's a fact.
critics just leverage that fact.
But yeah games as a service is huge in Asia. Not so popular here. Consoles exist because we didn't want to pump quarters into the arcade anymore.
That doesn't mean there aren't those people who still get that rush.
You know like that rush you get... when you're gambling.
Re: Final Fantasy 16's Demo Has Been a Huge Hit With PS5 Players
Final fantasy died when Sakaguchi left.
the rest of you just swallow whatever corporate tells you is final fantasy.
Re: Fans Think GTA 6's Imminent Reveal Is Being Teased in GTA Online
Set it in Detroit you cowards.
Re: Translucent Faceplates Finally Make PS5 Look Stunning
Hold out for the Lisa Frank
Re: Square Enix's Charismatic CEO Proudly Proclaims He Used to No-Life Final Fantasy Games Growing Up
@themightyant true, but the guy is all about blockchain, so this Is just a changing of a guard, not going in a new direction. Matsuda is very unpopular and said some very unsavory things, But nothing out of corporate has suggested this is going in any other direction.
Re: Final Fantasy 16's Demo Has Been a Huge Hit With PS5 Players
@KundaliniRising333 Eh. It looks like a game from Kojima w/o Kojima, but FF instead. (No Kojima... Nojima maybe? Haha)
Its still style over substance.
Re: Indie Hit Rogue Legacy 2 Is Finally Coming to PS5, PS4 Later This Month
Whoa. I must have this! Im Starting to dig the randomization of these games. They live and die by the gameplay loop. And they bring the challenge!
Re: There's Growing Concern Over Persona Dev's Metaphor: ReFantazio Being an Xbox Exclusive
This is kind of a crazy take, but maybe there would be more RPG players on xbox platforms if they actually had RPGs on offer.
Re: Preview: It's Virtually Impossible for Armored Core 6 to Fail
I'm hype for this. I Need more giant robot battles, TBH.
Re: No, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Is Definitely Not Releasing on PS4
I know you guys have this weird love affair with squeenix, but seriously you don't need to publish every water is wet article.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think of the Final Fantasy 16 PS5 Demo?
@Mikey856 Check out Chained Echoes if you want that old school turn based.
Sea of stars is coming out later this year and it's pretty hype for the old school. It'll be on gamepass, too.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think of the Final Fantasy 16 PS5 Demo?
@Jammsbro preach
Re: Square Enix's Charismatic CEO Proudly Proclaims He Used to No-Life Final Fantasy Games Growing Up
@Powerplay94 Yeah sure, and correct me if I'm wrong, but squeenix has a track record of canceling most of their live service / NFTs within a year.
A year is the Longshot guesstimate for SE GaaS ventures.
As for NFTs, They had to hype symbiogenesis with some gaslighting a la parasite eve, and that project was basically DOA. No one talks about it.
Re: Preview: Cocoon Is Incredible
Looks interesting but this article needs to cut the hyperbole. (It'll be up there w HK) wait n see maybe.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think of the Final Fantasy 16 PS5 Demo?
@Sil_Am " How can anybody prove they played it"
Really?
You're dismissed, have a nice life.