@themightyant I don’t think that many people actually care about the disc. It’s more about Sony having complete control over the market. If people think they’ll give decent sales once they have 100% control of pricing they are simpletons. Selling game codes in retail stores is a red herring because they know damn well people aren’t driving into town to get a code.
They won’t care until they are forced to care. This version of PlayStation is a long long way from the brand of 10 years ago. But no bother we can spend our money elsewhere. It’s not like they make great games anymore anyway
Push square should do a poll to find out if people would consider switching to Xbox if this rumour and the one about steam being available on Xbox are true. Especially if both consoles are a similar price. Having an open market place for digital only would certainly help convince me to pick a platform.
That’s a great feature and if rumours are true about the next Xbox being able to use the steam storefront I’m certain Sony will have to follow suit. If they don’t I could see a lot of people jumping to Xbox next gen if they don’t like the idea of going pc.
So many of you are missing the bigger point. This isn’t necessarily just about the loss of discs. It about the loss of options for cheaper games. If Sony made a statement saying they are allowing transfer or sales for second hand digital codes no one would have an issue. The anger is Sony are only doing this out of greed! They want to sell you old games for full price or when they do offer discounts they are nowhere near as low priced as second hand discs. I’m certain many of you are being wilfully ignorant though.
Let’s explain it in simple terms. People are angry because many people don’t pay full price for games, they wait and buy them second hand for a fraction of the original price and then sell them after they’ve finished them. That option is being removed along with the ability to sell your console with a huge collection of games to less fortunate people that can’t afford modern gaming.
The move to pc won’t be driven my the no disc drive, it will be driven by the fact that games are cheaper on pc and you don’t have to pay for ps plus.
Add the complete and utter disregard PlayStation has for its fans and the huge cost of consoles especially the next gen it will 100% create a mass exodus of customers. Some will go pc gaming route, some will stockpile older games (which were much better anyway) and some will give up the hobby entirely.
Anyone thinking this all blows over and PlayStation continues on without any brand damage is insane.
Sony just had its worst month selling consoles of all time! But many of you people believe people will just carry on and buy a ps6 that will be at least $300 more expensive 🤣
“Sony will be more concerned with mainstream audience” there’s the problem right there! Also the mainstream audience won’t pay the asking price for a ps6. Not a chance in hell.
Why have empathy? This is how the system of capitalism works. I can honestly say I don’t care less about people losing jobs, especially when they take 10-15 years to make a game all because they like to spend years programming individual blades of grass and other crap that doesn’t actually make the game better. The whole market needs a recalibration and that’s exactly what’s happening now. In 5-6 years time we’ll look back and say this culling was the best thing to happen
These studios were bloated and needed to be culled. Some of the best games over the last decade have come from far smaller teams than the ones Sony and Microsoft operate. Also let’s be honest most of these bloated studios have made average games at best! All you need is a small very talented m, dedicated team with a vision and you can make a great game. Having an extra 200 people working on things no one cares about like individual blades of grass or fabric looking photo realistic is absolutely pointless. Hopefully all the people that push identity politics have also left the building.
@Cjam36 mute data has leaked and most Sony first party aaa games sell about 50/50 split between disc and digital. Most people I know don’t buy games on release day since prices increased to £70, they wait a couple years and buy the game at cex for £20.
@get2sammyb maybe you should view it as the straw that broke the camels back! Ps5 generation has been a disaster, ps6 will be priced way too high for casual gamers, Sony exclusives are all very similar to ps4 games with very little risk being taken, ps plus is about to have a price increase, games will never get good discounts via the online store.
Short term outlay will be higher for a pc rig but over a 5-7 year period you’ll save a fortune by ditching ps plus and buying much cheaper games on steam.
The difference between console and pc used to be a huge difference. All things considered it’s now much much closer and quite possibly cheaper to go pc.
@11001100110zero the disc costs pennies to make. Distribution and wholesale prices are the reason Sony want rid of physical copies. They want you trapped into buying the games in their store at their inflated prices. Discounts will slowly get worse until you realise one day that 7-8 year old games are still sold for full price.
I kinda feel that the younger PlayStation fans are the ones who don’t really care or think this is a non issue. Understandable considering they’ve grown used to this crap. But for the older fans we’ve seen this hobby slowly get hollowed out and riddled with greed. Sony in the ps4 era was as good as gaming gets! They have now joined the other vultures in the industry like Microsoft. I won’t be sticking around to be ripped off and I’m certain I won’t be alone.
Amazing things happen when developers leave the huge bloated developers and start their own projects with no over bearing management forcing them to add crap into the game they don’t want.
@armondo36 time will tell on this one. I’d say at least 50% of people that buy consoles are casual gamers and a big chunk are also parents buying gifts. Let’s see how well they do trying to convince them to pay £1000 plus for a console that also charges full price for 6 year old games.
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Re: Fallout 5 in Pre-Production, as Bethesda Playing The Elder Scrolls 6 Everyday
Pre production can mean anything. Getting excited for anything Bethesda really is a fools game.
Re: God of War Laufey's Deborah Ann Woll Feels 'Totally Unbothered' by Online Haters
Good for her! Shame the devs decided to uglify her instead of using a true likeness.
Re: This Wolverine PS5 Trailer Is Going to Sell a Lot of Copies This Holiday
How many people will see the advertisement? Every time I go to the cinema it’s mostly empty
Re: 'We're Excited to Support the Dev of Memorable Experiences': Ex-Xbox Dev Looking for Work
Can’t see many suckers willing to fund their trash games.
Re: 'Millions of Gamers Value True Ownership': PS5, PS4 Represented Half of All UK Physical Game Revenue in 2025
We all know Sony are using a false equivalency in the data.
Re: Sony's Social Media Still Toxic Two Weeks After PS5 Discs Debacle
@themightyant I don’t think that many people actually care about the disc. It’s more about Sony having complete control over the market. If people think they’ll give decent sales once they have 100% control of pricing they are simpletons. Selling game codes in retail stores is a red herring because they know damn well people aren’t driving into town to get a code.
Re: Sony's Social Media Still Toxic Two Weeks After PS5 Discs Debacle
No wonder the world is a complete mess. This latest generation have the backbone of a jellyfish.
Re: Sony's Social Media Still Toxic Two Weeks After PS5 Discs Debacle
I swear be have some Sony bots on here. Either that or some people truly are doormats
Re: Sony's Social Media Still Toxic Two Weeks After PS5 Discs Debacle
They won’t care until they are forced to care. This version of PlayStation is a long long way from the brand of 10 years ago. But no bother we can spend our money elsewhere. It’s not like they make great games anymore anyway
Re: Staff Protest as MindsEye Studio Hosts 'Extravagant' Fan Playtest Following Mass Layoffs
Oh well nothing they can do. May as well just give up! Or does this mindset only work for fans protesting Sony??
Re: Here Come the Lawsuits! Sony's Physical Disc Debacle Likely to Keep Its Lawyers Busy
Apple lost its lawsuit for the exact same circumstances. Sony will be forced to open up their storefront for third parties.
Re: PS5's Physical Disc Debacle Will Attract More Anger if This Xbox Rumour Is True
Push square should do a poll to find out if people would consider switching to Xbox if this rumour and the one about steam being available on Xbox are true. Especially if both consoles are a similar price. Having an open market place for digital only would certainly help convince me to pick a platform.
Re: PS5's Physical Disc Debacle Will Attract More Anger if This Xbox Rumour Is True
That’s a great feature and if rumours are true about the next Xbox being able to use the steam storefront I’m certain Sony will have to follow suit. If they don’t I could see a lot of people jumping to Xbox next gen if they don’t like the idea of going pc.
Re: 'Bare Bones' PS5 Black Ops Ports Reportedly Have More Players Than Latest Game, Already Best Sellers on PS Store
People prefer playing games for the golden era rather than modern games. That’s no surprise considering games were better 10-15 years ago.
Re: AC Black Flag: Resynced Records Two Million Sales in Opening Day Booty
@AhmadSumadi yeah I know! I was making a dig at the super successful shadows.
Re: AC Black Flag: Resynced Records Two Million Sales in Opening Day Booty
Notice how they now show off about copies sold instead of individual players. Interesting
Re: Avowed 2 May Still Happen, Obsidian Skeleton Crew Continues Work
This first one wasn’t a financial success so it surprises me that they would consider making a second one.
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops (PS5) - One Big Rip-Off
Another example of f modern gaming! They’ll destroy the industry that took 30 years to build. The quicker the incumbents die off the better.
I’ll celebrate every dev closure until we have a complete reset.
Re: 'Sony Knows a $1,000 PS6 Won't Sell as Much': Analyst on Manufacturer's Plan to Maximise Revenue
So many of you are missing the bigger point. This isn’t necessarily just about the loss of discs. It about the loss of options for cheaper games. If Sony made a statement saying they are allowing transfer or sales for second hand digital codes no one would have an issue. The anger is Sony are only doing this out of greed! They want to sell you old games for full price or when they do offer discounts they are nowhere near as low priced as second hand discs. I’m certain many of you are being wilfully ignorant though.
Re: 'Sony Knows a $1,000 PS6 Won't Sell as Much': Analyst on Manufacturer's Plan to Maximise Revenue
@NerdyPaul exactly the same responses from all the PlayStation fan boys that refuse to hold them accountable. Yeah we’ve seen plenty of that
Re: 'Sony Knows a $1,000 PS6 Won't Sell as Much': Analyst on Manufacturer's Plan to Maximise Revenue
Drain the whales and simpletons wallets as much as possible. Exact same playbook as live service.
Re: Assassin's Creed Black Flag Remake Studio Faced with Layoffs Despite Successful Launch
Seems like a complete waste of time becoming a game dev in 2026 (especially in the west)
I wonder how many of these lost jobs are being replaced by automation. Ai can code thousands of times quicker than a human
Re: 'PS5 Has Put a Dampener on Gaming': 45% of Enthusiasts 'Seriously Considering' Leaving Sony for PC
Let’s explain it in simple terms. People are angry because many people don’t pay full price for games, they wait and buy them second hand for a fraction of the original price and then sell them after they’ve finished them. That option is being removed along with the ability to sell your console with a huge collection of games to less fortunate people that can’t afford modern gaming.
The move to pc won’t be driven my the no disc drive, it will be driven by the fact that games are cheaper on pc and you don’t have to pay for ps plus.
Add the complete and utter disregard PlayStation has for its fans and the huge cost of consoles especially the next gen it will 100% create a mass exodus of customers. Some will go pc gaming route, some will stockpile older games (which were much better anyway) and some will give up the hobby entirely.
Anyone thinking this all blows over and PlayStation continues on without any brand damage is insane.
Re: 'PS5 Has Put a Dampener on Gaming': 45% of Enthusiasts 'Seriously Considering' Leaving Sony for PC
Sony just had its worst month selling consoles of all time! But many of you people believe people will just carry on and buy a ps6 that will be at least $300 more expensive 🤣
Re: 'PS5 Has Put a Dampener on Gaming': 45% of Enthusiasts 'Seriously Considering' Leaving Sony for PC
“Sony will be more concerned with mainstream audience” there’s the problem right there! Also the mainstream audience won’t pay the asking price for a ps6. Not a chance in hell.
Re: The Elder Scrolls 6 Heavily Impacted by Xbox Layoffs, Team Morale at Rock Bottom
Why have empathy? This is how the system of capitalism works. I can honestly say I don’t care less about people losing jobs, especially when they take 10-15 years to make a game all because they like to spend years programming individual blades of grass and other crap that doesn’t actually make the game better. The whole market needs a recalibration and that’s exactly what’s happening now.
In 5-6 years time we’ll look back and say this culling was the best thing to happen
Re: The Elder Scrolls 6 Heavily Impacted by Xbox Layoffs, Team Morale at Rock Bottom
It will be broken mess regardless
Re: 'A Little More Fitting for the World We Live in Now': Persona 4 Revival Rethinks Key Character Yosuke
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Re: 'A Little More Fitting for the World We Live in Now': Persona 4 Revival Rethinks Key Character Yosuke
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Re: Open World RPG Project Awakening Still in Development, 8 Years After Stunning PS4 Reveal
Why even bother showing a game when it’s 8 years away from being anywhere near ready.
Re: Mouse: P.I. for Hire's Latest Update Is Available Now on PS5, and It's Enormous
Hopefully they stop with the cheese puns 😁
Re: PlayStation to Show More Upcoming PS5 Games at Tokyo Game Show 2026
Hopefully they show more of fairgame$ and hunters gathering
Re: 'I'm Not Convinced There's a Viable Way Forward': DOOM Dev Relegated to 'Support Studio' Size
These studios were bloated and needed to be culled. Some of the best games over the last decade have come from far smaller teams than the ones Sony and Microsoft operate. Also let’s be honest most of these bloated studios have made average games at best! All you need is a small very talented m, dedicated team with a vision and you can make a great game. Having an extra 200 people working on things no one cares about like individual blades of grass or fabric looking photo realistic is absolutely pointless. Hopefully all the people that push identity politics have also left the building.
Re: Rumour: New Fallout Game from Obsidian in the Works, But Has to Cancel Avowed Sequel
Cancelling avowed is the only sensible decision tbh. The last one under performed and done quite a bit of damage to the ip.
Re: Poll: Are You Considering Leaving PlayStation for PC?
@Cjam36 mute data has leaked and most Sony first party aaa games sell about 50/50 split between disc and digital. Most people I know don’t buy games on release day since prices increased to £70, they wait a couple years and buy the game at cex for £20.
Re: Poll: Are You Considering Leaving PlayStation for PC?
@get2sammyb maybe you should view it as the straw that broke the camels back! Ps5 generation has been a disaster, ps6 will be priced way too high for casual gamers, Sony exclusives are all very similar to ps4 games with very little risk being taken, ps plus is about to have a price increase, games will never get good discounts via the online store.
Short term outlay will be higher for a pc rig but over a 5-7 year period you’ll save a fortune by ditching ps plus and buying much cheaper games on steam.
The difference between console and pc used to be a huge difference. All things considered it’s now much much closer and quite possibly cheaper to go pc.
Re: Poll: Are You Considering Leaving PlayStation for PC?
@RobN games are way cheaper on pc and you don’t pay to play online. I refuse to be ripped off by Sony just because it’s slightly more convenient.
Re: Poll: Are You Considering Leaving PlayStation for PC?
My decision is made and most of the people I know won’t consider buying a console at anywhere near £1000
Re: 'They Wait for This Storm to Pass': No Chance of Sony Walking Back Its Decision to Kill Discs, Warns Analyst
No chance I buy a ps6
Re: PlayStation's First Post Since Physical Games Debacle Draws 57k Replies
@11001100110zero the disc costs pennies to make. Distribution and wholesale prices are the reason Sony want rid of physical copies. They want you trapped into buying the games in their store at their inflated prices. Discounts will slowly get worse until you realise one day that 7-8 year old games are still sold for full price.
Re: PlayStation's First Post Since Physical Games Debacle Draws 57k Replies
I kinda feel that the younger PlayStation fans are the ones who don’t really care or think this is a non issue. Understandable considering they’ve grown used to this crap. But for the older fans we’ve seen this hobby slowly get hollowed out and riddled with greed. Sony in the ps4 era was as good as gaming gets! They have now joined the other vultures in the industry like Microsoft. I won’t be sticking around to be ripped off and I’m certain I won’t be alone.
Re: The Elder Scrolls Online's Future Looks Bleak as Dev 'Decimated' by Xbox Layoffs
@AhmadSumadi surprised they are downsizing in that case.
Re: Round Up: Ridiculously Positive Dawnwalker Previews Claim It's a Game of the Year Candidate
Amazing things happen when developers leave the huge bloated developers and start their own projects with no over bearing management forcing them to add crap into the game they don’t want.
Re: The Elder Scrolls Online's Future Looks Bleak as Dev 'Decimated' by Xbox Layoffs
This will be devastating for the few thousand people that play the game.
Re: Sony Ignores the Backlash and Returns to Social Media Almost a Week After Killing Physical Games
@armondo36 time will tell on this one. I’d say at least 50% of people that buy consoles are casual gamers and a big chunk are also parents buying gifts. Let’s see how well they do trying to convince them to pay £1000 plus for a console that also charges full price for 6 year old games.
Re: Sony Ignores the Backlash and Returns to Social Media Almost a Week After Killing Physical Games
Just get the eu to go after them like they did with apple.
Re: Gigantic Xbox Layoffs See The Outer Worlds Dev Obsidian Lose 25% of Workforce
@Slayer25c rpg elements is the modern lazy replacement for real rpg’s.
Re: Gigantic Xbox Layoffs See The Outer Worlds Dev Obsidian Lose 25% of Workforce
Calling outer worlds an rpg is an insult to the genre.
Re: Bethesda Reducing Workforce, Refocusing on Its Biggest Franchises Amid Xbox Layoffs
Bethesda could close the doors entirely and it wouldn’t be a huge loss to gaming. They haven’t made a good game for nearly 20 years
Re: 'I Know This Is Painful': Xbox Confirms 3,200 Job Losses in Industry Bloodbath
Well overdue! The whole industry need tearing down and rebuilding