BleedingDreamer

They need to put a playable demo out like they did with the PS3 version of The Last of Us. It would give us a chance to check out some of the enhancements.

The games on their service we already own should be playable without having to subscribe to their service.

They should do what Xbox did and let people upgrade their remaining subscription for $1.00 to try it. Since then I've bought 3 years of GamePass.

@Dalejrfanfreak GamePass is hard to beat especially if you buy it when they have it half off during the holidays. I've been getting a year of GamePass every Christmas for around 60 bucks.

@Martsmall in Forza it is so easy to earn cars thru in game rewards that I don't get why anyone would buy any.

@middyone there have been several times when climbing I'll be pushing the stick in one direction and she'll go in the total opposite when the other direction is much closer to where I want to go. There are times I don't even feel like I'm controlling her. Regardless of what that article says my experience has been different other than that I like the game.

@Medic_Alert I personally think the traversal was better in the first game. It seems to be hit or miss grabbing a ledge in Forbidden West but I don't think I ever missed a ledge while playing Zero Dawn. The traversal is my only complaint about the game other than that I've had a great time with it.

@ATaco that is probably why people are review bombing the game.

Horizon Forbidden West is one of my favorite games this generation right up there beside Halo Infinite. Hopefully Sony and MS can produce a few more titles as entertaining as them. They are the type of games I like and they need more of them on the new consoles.

@GRUMPY-OWD-BRAM I'm 59

Bungie hasn't had really good financial backing since they left MS this is a good deal for them and Sony. They can keep Destiny and other games multiplatform and have extra levels, characters and weapons that are Sony exclusives, MS can do the same with the IP's they own and everyone will benefit. Their respective platforms will benefit having exclusive content while making money keeping things multiplatform. The company's they've bought will have financial security to try new endeavours. This doesn't have to be a negative for gamers. Even if they have the occasional game in a franchise exclusive to their platform I still think it can be beneficial to the fans, it's better than a studio having to close it's doors for good because of the lack of funds.

@Snake_V5 MS owns Halo. They bought the IP from Bungie.

@UltimateOtaku91 Sony use to make agreements with stores to not display competitors consoles.

@Rob_230 Halo Infinate is pretty good. The campaign was excellent. Just don't buy anything in the MP.

@Jammsbro about the only games I play on bc or the Fallout 3 or Red Dead Redemption but I have the option if I ever wanted to and that is always better than not having it. I'm ready to move forward when Sony has something I want to play on the PS5. The only thing I've played on it since I got it is Miles Morales hopefully Horizon Forbidden West isn't delayed and I'll have something new in February to play. There hasn't been much to come out new that interests me this gen so being able to revisit old classics has been nice. Hopefully Sony will rectify that with something of their own.

@Jammsbro day one first and third party titles. You do not need GamePass to play BC titles, you just need to own the game. I didn't get GamePass until a couple months ago I figured it only had those games no one really cared for but it has alot to offer. I was impressed with it. Outriders and Back 4 Blood are 2 games I would have never bought or played but once they are removed from the service I will have to pick them up.

@JohnKarnes only time will tell when it comes to that issue.

@Uncharted2007 MS can kill the previous generation because of the Series S. It is a low cost entry level console for next gen. My grandkids have one and it is pretty impressive for 300 bucks.

@BeerIsAwesome that is a option that I keep hoping for.

@Jammsbro Xbox has always lead Playstation. Online play and voice chat was an afterthought on Playstation, now Xbox has GamePass which is a great service. Backward Compatibility. When it comes to features Xbox usually leads. PSNow is just a clone of what Xbox wanted to do with the always online that everyone complained about. I enjoy my Playstation but Xbox tends to have the better features.

@Spoonman-2 same here.

@BrettAwesome what are the differences between them?

@bpomber I know the beta has it and it looks much better.

It is a form of DRM if you can't play or things are not playable unless connected to the net

@NEStalgia Sony is doing the exact same thing that MS did back during the 360 era when they were on top. It didn't work out well for MS and I hope this doesn't work out well for Sony.

@Waffles12415 the Legends MP was originally going to be with the game but they didn't have it finished in time to meet their release date. They didn't give us anything the content was paid for before it came out.

@Waffles12415 this is the perfect place to complain. If enough people complain they might even change their decision.

@Waffles12415 @Waffles12415 companies are always giving away complimentary items, it fosters good will toward your business.

@Nem I know for fact Game Pass made one sale for Sony. The day Outriders came out I was playing it on Game Pass. My son in law drops by and wants to try it out, he plays on PS4 and went out and bought the game. I think Game Pass can generate more game sales. It is a good service for me cause I rarely play a game a 2nd time. I like my PS5 and Sony has a few exclusives I really like and there will always be a few games I'll buy and play on it. But the Series X will be my console for 3rd party titles and Game Pass. It is a very good value. I wish Sony had something like it besides PSNow.

@Waffles12415 once the tool set is created programming for the controller is pretty simple.

@naruball Sony has very deep pockets too. The PS5 upgrade should be free to anyone who bought GOT on the PS4 and has a PS5. I understand paying for the expansion and other extras but not the PS5 upgrade. Sony is taking advantage of its customers.

@JapaneseSonic I spend more time on my Series X than I do my PS5.

@JapaneseSonic @Werewius Game Pass has been getting new release 3rd party titles added the day they come out. Outriders was on GamePass day one. Back4Blood is another title going to GamePass day one. Sony is giving us the shaft.

The upgrade to PS5 should be free. I can understand paying for the expansion but not the PS5 upgrade.

@Col_McCafferty I think he meant programming for less consoles would benefit. Only time will tell.

@jdv95 I'm looking forward to Starfield, Halo Infinate and Horizon Forbidden West on the PS5.

@jdv95 I picked one up in March and have been impressed with it. I'll be using it for most of my 3rd party games this generation.

I'm disappointed that all games don't run at 4k@ 60fps on PS5. I expected more out of this generation.

@Nem tribal societies had or used the things they found in nature as makeup.

The only thing they have coming out that interests me is Horizon Forbidden West.

@Boucho11 it is well worth the purchase.

@jorel262 the store is terrible on the PS5.

Sony needs to up their game. My son has the Series X and Far Cry 5 and several other game from last gen run at 60fps and look like totally new games. I wish they would implement something similar on the PS5. Far Cry 5 as an example looks the same on the PS5 as it does on the PS4 Pro but on Series X looks like a new game. Hopefully that changes in the next few months if not sooner.

@Orpheus79V Gears 5 has pretty good combat that surpasses The Last of Us 2 with its gunplay. Not that The Last of Us 2 had bad gunplay.

@Woogy they didn't have Dolby Atmos on the PS4 Pro either. I've been playing on the Series X much more because it supports Dolby Atmos for games. Destiny 2 sounds so much better on Series X. I really wish Sony would add Atmos for gaming on the PS5.

@Th3solution the Series X seems to have been better designed and more thought out. The PS5 seems rushed and the OS feels incomplete.

@StonyKL no

Even on the PS5 it can take a long time. A game like Red Dead Redemption 2, The Division 2, or Destiny 2 can take 30 minutes or more.

@mcdreamer I told my son the same thing. I'll probably get it this generation if the price is right.

I've been playing Control on the PS5 and have enjoyed it. I never would have bought it but thanks to Plus I can. If they ever have a Control 2 I might make that a day 1 purchase.