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the cost would be ridiculous for a start.
no actual reason for a 'pro'.
no current demand for a pro (its a minority of people who make an effort to post on games sites who want 4k 60fps).
people only just getting ps5 this year in many places.
no reason for vast Majority of ps5 owners to switch to a pro.

imo a focus on handheld would be more profitable, but very very unlikely

people will find a way to complain.

but that is a good varied selection.

Really disliked the Surge. So definitely need to see reviews etc.

@Bleachedsmiles I think it will be PC day 1, crazy if not

Personally dont believe it.

barely any current Gen only games, and nothing taxxing the console.

whats a Pro version going to bring to encourage people to upgrade? Especially as many will only get a ps5 this year.

its 19quid on Amazon prime

Live service games/online MP really struggle against established games, i do feel this game will have the quality to compete.

i do wonder will it get a long term big enough player base? i Seriously believe this is something Sony should be putting on MS platforms too

dont care one bit for trophies.

no point and 0 enjoyment 'exploring' generic areas for hours.

prefer to use that time to experience more games.

@KundaliniRising333 i own both too GP is good, issues around DLC on it, meaning if base Game leaves you have to buy it. good to try stuff you may not usually. MS rewards too.

negative, MS seems to be going more MTX, games can be more buggy too. personally standard controller worse than dualsense.

owning both has pushed up value of PS extra for me, as i end up buying less, i claim more from plus. For me while they may add 'older' titles, they are usually quality ones.

i gave it 8, could have been a7, its so outdated and bland.

@Grimwood its past 30m worldwide, id suspect around 35m now.

its DLC not a new game, doesnt need to show much

very strange company. its not as if their games are bad as such... Just many end up average and get overlooked

@ORO_ERICIUS pretty much every Game that is released needs fixing. people pay a premium ($70) for day1, and 9/10 times for a worse experience.

@themightyant is right, best to wait in most occasions

i played rise on GP, switching to ps5... quick dumb question....

Sunbreak doesnt include the base Rise game correct? so best buy Rise while on sale? or is there a complete type edition being released?

end up f2p? try to recoup costs quickly then it can die?

or holiday season in the hope of parents buying it?

@TooBarFoo considering stock issues its to be expected, still almost 10% of total Sales.

@Korgon i guess its the cloud of MS having the potential to buy whatever...people want the games they like on their fave box.

(i think MS would be blocked from stuff like Capcom after they get ABK)

@GamingFan4Lyf they would stay on Nintendo id be sure, sells too much on there. doubt anything would hit xbox tbh

@sword_9mm Sony want that $70 first and foremost. Sub service to them is second, hence it being hit and miss at times

@BadPlayerOne it is 'fantasy' its based on post apocoliptic world with a deadly infection. not exactly realistic. plusits based on a game where your characters do that stuff.

@WallyWest thats the thing with GP can try without worry. even hifi rush only has 10% or so completion rate.

id love to know how MS do contracts for GP. lumpsum based on projected sales? per download? or does a player have to play X time for a 'sale'.

ive only played a little, but its very bland and dated. gameplay is decent. 7.5/8 thus far

i would have never ever guessed in a thousand... No, a million years.

@Swirly my biggest complaint about my XSS is the cheap Controller, feels weak, noisy, light, also i find holding the RT uncomfy when on driving games. Certainly area MS can improve.

ps5 doesnt record hours. So chooses to play on the console that is often regarded to have the 'worst' version of said games. Just so hours are tracked.

Just be honest and say its because GP is good value.

i get that this is FF, and a bigger ip etc

but Sony went hard on Forspoken, so why not help Square with that too?

im all in, trying to avoid video.

i would prefer turn based coz that is FF to me.

i enjoy DMC, my slight worry is it will lean to much to it action wise

@BAMozzy except cloud is terrible for 90%+ because poor internet world wide. still has input lag etc. Until infrastructure is in place. Majority of gamers need the box.

oh and when you keep using ' round words that dont need it makes your posts read strange :/

@Shepherd_Tallon cancel it. by time you get to it, probably be on sale

please enough with remaster/makes.

between that and live service, gaming is potentially heading in a boring direction.

wonder if Sony can drop marketing deal so doesnt look like they have anything to do with it.

Wont be the S holding it back, its not hugely demanding type.

more they are a small team so it takes time.

better than releasing a mess like most do.

@KaijuKaiser yet 95% or more ps5 owners dont have PSVR. So that 30mil+ thats left would like to see some stuff.

cant really do a worse one tbh.

why didnt the end last nights along lines of 'summer SoP featuring.....' kinda screen.

will be on GP at a later date.

Most likely want PC sales first

@Titntin not harsh imo. Sony got it wrong.

nothing wrong with showing 3rd parties and indies. But at least show good ones.SF6/RE4 shown before. but outside of that the rest looked boring. Honestly cant remember names/what most are about.

then wasted 15mins showing SS that put more people off. SoP/Amount shown were fine. drop a surprise like MS did, the one coming to extra.... why wait?

instead of a buzz, it went flatter than a day old pint.

@Bestsuperherofan Because its battle passes on top of a $70 game. No need except for a cash grab.

@Beerheadgamer82 sometimes its better to show nothing than to show stuff people dont really care about/get excited over. SF6/RE4 are already out there anyway. then 15min of SS that left the whole show flat.

character design looked horrendous.

actually its just terrible

was dreadful.

really dreadful.

SS looks like a steaming pile.

nothing major

maybe a day1 indie to plus

@nomither6 at least its fine to criticise Sony here. go look at criticism of MS over on purexbox, labelled an immediate troll. Even seen well thought out posts by people like MightyAnt called fanboys.

on topic will give atomic a try on GP at some point

@get2sammyb Thanks, saw this and remembered article

@BeerIsAwesome Nintendo is undoubtedly king there, but Sony are at least picking up there - for now at least

@IOI they are all going to have bias to the console/site they report on.

i own the 3 consoles, so use the 3 sister sites PX/PS/NL, id say PX is the worst for comments, criticise MS and immediately you are a troll, Sony brought up pretty much every comment section.. even seen a few spend 12hrs+ defending MS.

PS even with its faults post negative Sony articles when poor sales etc to their credit.

@get2sammyb what was the Sony thing for the super bowl the other week? just the current Ad?

i mean if MS are saying they are being massively outsold, GP growth slowing, price rises working way in. spending 69bil......

Can they afford to not have CoD on PS and getting that revenue cut? numbers have to be made somewhere

waiting for a few updates then im on it

expected around 75% for it... bit like Callisto, looks nice but under the hood lacking.

nothing about it making me want to jump in, will try eventually on GP