@get2sammyb - I was thinking that they definitely need more studios, especially in an era where most studios will be able to deliver one or two games per generation. But I think that even if they bought 10 new ones, the current fan base would still demand that ALL studios keep focusing on making the same games that Sony has been doing over the last 15 years.
I also don't like how long the games have been taking to release, I don't think it was a good idea to focus on Hunter's Gathering (they should have found some way to produce both that and Horizon 3 at the same time), but man, it must be terrible to be a developer these days, spending 10 or 15 years producing two games (and two expansions) and when the opportunity to do something a little different comes in, you're basically forbidden from doing it because it's not what the "hardcore" fan base wants.
At least no one can't deny that it's funny to have spent the entire generation so far hearing that the sequels that Sony released on the PS5 were just "more of the same" (Spider-Man 2, Forbidden West, Ragnarok and Yotei) so that in the end that's exactly what people want.
@IOI - Nah, I think it's funny that everyone is sure that all studios were forced to produce live service games. Encouraged? Probably. But forced? I highly doubt it.
Guerrilla has been saying for years that it wanted to do something multiplayer in the Horizon franchise. Hell, the first concept arts for Zero Dawn showed a group of hunters chasing the machines, before the Aloy character were even created. Guerrilla even had a co-op mode in active development, which was shown in the first game's documentary.
And the same goes for Naughty Dog, I can't remember how many times I saw or read about someone from the studio saying that they were big fans of multiplayer games (Druckmann kept posting how many wins he had in PUBG for example), how big the success of Factions mode was in the first TLOU and so on.
People can't deny how cool it can be to play an online game with your friends, something that I'm sure happens a lot within these studios, which makes the developers themselves want to create something in the genre. The problem is that nowadays there are no multiplayer games that are not live service games. It is no longer possible to create a multiplayer game where it will not receive new characters, weapons, maps, modes, etc. over time.
As I said, it has become clear that some studios that are now famous for single-player games will want to do something different from time to time. And I don't know if it's a good idea for Sony to have a studio that's unhappy because they couldn't make the game they want.
It's kinda insane to me that Insomniac is the only first party studio that manages to produce multiple games at the same time (as far as we know? Might have changed with Spider-Man 2 and afterwards).
Sony DESPERATELY needs more studios. Even more so now where games take 6 to 8 years to be made and it looks like some studios will focus on areas other than the single-player games that the fan base demands.
@PsBoxSwitchOwner - They already confirmed on the announcement video that the game can be played solo and it has a story/narrative element (which will be updated with new chapters over time).
So far it doesn't look it's something I would love to play, but I'm not mad that this game exists, like a lot of people are.
What worries me most is that 99% of the current PlayStation fan base only wants and only accepts one type of game. As I said in the other post, a lot of people would have killed themselves if Sony still had that variety of games that they managed to have at the beginning of the PS3 generation.
I still don't know for sure if I'm interested or not.
But one thing that can be said with certainty is that the current fan base would probably kill itself if everyone had the PS3 at that time when Sony released a vast variety of games (including several multiplayer ones).
It's impressive that Sony has become hostage to an audience that only accepts one type of game: Third-person games focused on the single-player story. To the point where a developer has to say that they are still going to continue doing this IN THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF ANOTHER GAME.
@Rich33 - Actually, the Forza Horizon 5 PS5 port was made by another company (Panic Button). Fable is the first game they developed in-house for PlayStation.
Could be that Panic Button is yet again doing the port while the main in-house Forza team works on the DLCs already.
Most PlayStation Studios will be able to deliver one (or at max two) games per generation going forward. That's why many think they still don't have enough studios and many of their third party exclusivity deals are going away (Final Fantasy, Persona, Yakuza and so on are now full multiplatform).
Looks like Sony is dead again. Can't wait to see them dying again next month, as it happens every month and yet, the platform is still stronger than ever.
Anyway, I can't deny that it's really funny to see people who always said: "Nobody wants live service games from Sony" now saying "why isn't this Sony live service game on my PlayStation?!!"
People can't say Sony doesn't listen to its public. People didn't want these type of games on system, now they're not getting it.
Found it an OK month. Already played Stray on Extra but it's nice to have attached to my account. And WRC was on my wishlist since its release, so 🤷♂️.
I haven't been able to verify it, but it looks like it's a studio of around 16 people, with several having previously worked at companies like From Software, Santa Monica, and Platinum Games.
I just hope it's not the last thing they show. They've been revealing new things at each event since the beginning of last year, I hope they don't stop with that.
Wolverine will be cool and everything, but we already know it exists. Show me something new.
@KundaliniRising333 Sony already did a general State Of Play followed by a new one focused on one game (FF Rebirth) a week after.
February 2, 2022 - Gran Turismo 7 State Of Play
March 9, 2022 - General State Of Play
March 17, 2022 - Hogwarts Legacy State Of Play
January 31, 2024 - General State Of Play
February 6, 2024 - Final Fantasy VII Rebirth State Of Play
They need to sortout their licesence system before allowing refunds with played games. As it works at the moment, a person could just download the game, put the console offline and play the whole game.
Sony has two online/multiplayer Horizon games in the oven. One in-house with Guerilla and the other one with NCSoft. They probably want to release those before doing any other move.
And going by the art-style that leaked, the Guerrilla multiplayer project could very well be a mobile game as well. It was VERY inspired by Fortnite.
By the way, it looks like it was a co-op game with a big focus on story/narrative. Codename was Project Draconis... Some very short videos leaked (it was that Oooze game that some sites reported)
@Northern_munkey - PlayStation current CEO already stated that the cross-gen period will be even longer on the PS6. We'll probably be getting games for PS5 by 2030 or 2032.
Sony probably already sees PlayStation and the "standard" console of the market (which no one will catch), so makes sense to see them trying to find new ways of revenue. Sony also already has the data that says people are buying their console to play Fortnite, FIFA and COD, and not specifically first party games.
For me as a user, I'm already starting to hope that they will at least release everything for PC on Day 1. I've always liked the platform, I have a huge library but there's no reason to continue once I've built a good PC. Sony increasing the price of everything here in Brazil only pushes me further away from the platform as well.
It will be interesting to see how Sony will try to sell the PS6 to the hardcore audience (if it still cares about it).
PlayStation exclusives will definitely be a temporary thing since most, of not all Sony games will run on the next Xbox now (not counting multiplayer games like Helldivers 2 and Tokon that would be playable on Day 1 without any delay). Xbox will also have cheaper games, free online and so on.
PS6 will have... timed exclusives, better visuals/framerates and will you keep your library?
Expectations really are everything. Final Fantasy XVI bombed on PlayStation with only 3 million copies sold, while DOOM The Dark Ages was considered a success for having 3 million players
Still amazes to see that folks really expect to see multiple first party games being announced at every event that Sony does these days. Sony didn't bought two publishers and more than 15 developers like MS did. It's not rocket science for Christ sake. Limited number of studios + games taking longer to be made = less announcements/releases. And on top of that, Sony screwup putting some studios like Bluepoint and Bend to work on some ridiculous projects.
At least Sony is acting smart with XDEV and it's funding some great projects like the Marvel one. They need more of that.
Wouldn't expect any event from Sony in this (north american) summer.
What will happen is: They won't do anything until September, everyone will get hyped for the September event because "they didn't show anything for a long time and they need to answer to fans this time" and everyone will end up disappointed as always.
@Oram77 - I think it's really hard to know that for sure. With Xbox's market share decreasing more every year, I don't know if it's so certain that the game would have sold millions there. It would probably had success if it were released on Game Pass, but the matter is quite different when it comes to individual sales.
It will be interesting to see how the studio will do. I don't think Sony sees any problem with this either, Sony always finds some somewhat unknown studios to work with and I doubt that will stop now.
The hate with any multiplayer game coming from Sony is getting kinda funny.
"I don't want Sony to make multiplayer games, if they're going to do that, they need to buy new studios for that > Sony buys Bungie > Why are Sony and Bungie still making multiplayer games?!
I wonder if one of them is the rumored new Sony exclusive game.
Sony and From signed to produce a new prototype back in 2022, if that became a full production game or if it got cancelled, I guess we'll need to wait more 3 or 4 years to know.
Don't know how but I'm sure some will twist this as a Sony fault. I mean, From announced a new multiplayer title and I already saw some YouTubers saying it's Jim Ryan's fault.
He also confirmed that he was the person who signed the contract that approved an Concord prototype with Probably Monsters (who was the owner of Firewalk at the time). Said he visited Firewalk and felt the team was a talented and experienced to work with a online game.
(And Helldivers 2 was planned to be a PS5 launch game)
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Re: PS5's First State of Play of 2026 Tipped for Later This Week
@get2sammyb - I was thinking that they definitely need more studios, especially in an era where most studios will be able to deliver one or two games per generation. But I think that even if they bought 10 new ones, the current fan base would still demand that ALL studios keep focusing on making the same games that Sony has been doing over the last 15 years.
I also don't like how long the games have been taking to release, I don't think it was a good idea to focus on Hunter's Gathering (they should have found some way to produce both that and Horizon 3 at the same time), but man, it must be terrible to be a developer these days, spending 10 or 15 years producing two games (and two expansions) and when the opportunity to do something a little different comes in, you're basically forbidden from doing it because it's not what the "hardcore" fan base wants.
At least no one can't deny that it's funny to have spent the entire generation so far hearing that the sequels that Sony released on the PS5 were just "more of the same" (Spider-Man 2, Forbidden West, Ragnarok and Yotei) so that in the end that's exactly what people want.
Re: Horizon Hunters Gathering Is Guerrilla's Next Big PS5 Game, Horizon 3 Still Years Away
@IOI - Nah, I think it's funny that everyone is sure that all studios were forced to produce live service games. Encouraged? Probably. But forced? I highly doubt it.
Guerrilla has been saying for years that it wanted to do something multiplayer in the Horizon franchise. Hell, the first concept arts for Zero Dawn showed a group of hunters chasing the machines, before the Aloy character were even created. Guerrilla even had a co-op mode in active development, which was shown in the first game's documentary.
And the same goes for Naughty Dog, I can't remember how many times I saw or read about someone from the studio saying that they were big fans of multiplayer games (Druckmann kept posting how many wins he had in PUBG for example), how big the success of Factions mode was in the first TLOU and so on.
People can't deny how cool it can be to play an online game with your friends, something that I'm sure happens a lot within these studios, which makes the developers themselves want to create something in the genre. The problem is that nowadays there are no multiplayer games that are not live service games. It is no longer possible to create a multiplayer game where it will not receive new characters, weapons, maps, modes, etc. over time.
As I said, it has become clear that some studios that are now famous for single-player games will want to do something different from time to time. And I don't know if it's a good idea for Sony to have a studio that's unhappy because they couldn't make the game they want.
Re: Horizon Hunters Gathering Is Guerrilla's Next Big PS5 Game, Horizon 3 Still Years Away
It's kinda insane to me that Insomniac is the only first party studio that manages to produce multiple games at the same time (as far as we know? Might have changed with Spider-Man 2 and afterwards).
Sony DESPERATELY needs more studios. Even more so now where games take 6 to 8 years to be made and it looks like some studios will focus on areas other than the single-player games that the fan base demands.
Re: Poll: What's Your Reaction to Horizon Hunters Gathering?
@PsBoxSwitchOwner - They already confirmed on the announcement video that the game can be played solo and it has a story/narrative element (which will be updated with new chapters over time).
Re: Poll: What's Your Reaction to Horizon Hunters Gathering?
So far it doesn't look it's something I would love to play, but I'm not mad that this game exists, like a lot of people are.
What worries me most is that 99% of the current PlayStation fan base only wants and only accepts one type of game. As I said in the other post, a lot of people would have killed themselves if Sony still had that variety of games that they managed to have at the beginning of the PS3 generation.
Re: Sony Finally Confirms Horizon Co-Op Game, Horizon Hunters Gathering for PS5, PC
I still don't know for sure if I'm interested or not.
But one thing that can be said with certainty is that the current fan base would probably kill itself if everyone had the PS3 at that time when Sony released a vast variety of games (including several multiplayer ones).
It's impressive that Sony has become hostage to an audience that only accepts one type of game: Third-person games focused on the single-player story. To the point where a developer has to say that they are still going to continue doing this IN THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF ANOTHER GAME.
Re: 'These Guys Are Top of the Line': Actor Tony Dalton Talks Up Naughty Dog and Intergalactic
Kinda curious to see if they'll push to that Soulsborne influences they have been mentioning for years now.
Not even worried about the gameplay since their last game is alongside MGS5 as some of the best action third person gameplays out there.
Re: Xbox Will Try to Deliver PS5 Ports on Launch Day More Consistently
@Rich33 - Actually, the Forza Horizon 5 PS5 port was made by another company (Panic Button). Fable is the first game they developed in-house for PlayStation.
Could be that Panic Button is yet again doing the port while the main in-house Forza team works on the DLCs already.
Re: Sony Is Buying Snoopy for $457 Million in Surprise Acquisition
Makes sense. Sony has been saying for years that they need to acquire more IP
Re: Sony Announces 4Loop, the Next Co-Op Game from the Creator of Left 4 Dead
@Bentleyma - Yeah, COOP Rogue-like.
Re: Geoff Keighley's Cryptic Game Awards Teaser Reportedly Not Related to Diablo 4 After All
Can't wait to see people pissed at Santa Monica/Sony for it NOT being related to God Of War.
Re: Don't Expect Intergalactic PS5 to Launch Until at Least 2027
Most PlayStation Studios will be able to deliver one (or at max two) games per generation going forward. That's why many think they still don't have enough studios and many of their third party exclusivity deals are going away (Final Fantasy, Persona, Yakuza and so on are now full multiplatform).
Re: The Next Horizon Game Is an MMO for Mobile and PC, Prompting Fury from PS5 Fans
@MrStark - Yeah, THEY'RE DONE! DONE! IT'S OVER! They won't recover from this one! Sony's 30 year luck run has ended!
And all hail the Steam Machine! Our savior!
Re: The Next Horizon Game Is an MMO for Mobile and PC, Prompting Fury from PS5 Fans
Looks like Sony is dead again. Can't wait to see them dying again next month, as it happens every month and yet, the platform is still stronger than ever.
Re: The Next Horizon Game Is an MMO by NCSOFT for PC, Mobile
@GamingGod - Probably Cross-gen.
Anyway, I can't deny that it's really funny to see people who always said: "Nobody wants live service games from Sony" now saying "why isn't this Sony live service game on my PlayStation?!!"
People can't say Sony doesn't listen to its public. People didn't want these type of games on system, now they're not getting it.
Re: The Next Horizon Game Is an MMO by NCSOFT for PC, Mobile
@twitchtvpat @GamingGod
Guerrilla's next project is Horizon Online (or whatever it will be called). Horizon 3 comes after that (maybe 2028 or 2029)
Re: PS Plus Essential Subscribers Bemoan 'Crap Selection' in Latest Update
Found it an OK month. Already played Stray on Extra but it's nice to have attached to my account. And WRC was on my wishlist since its release, so 🤷♂️.
Re: Loulan: The Cursed Sand Looks Like Another Must Play PS5 Console Exclusive
@get2sammyb - PS Blog confirmed it:
https://blog.playstation.com/2025/10/27/loulan-the-cursed-sand-is-coming-to-ps5/
Re: Loulan: The Cursed Sand Looks Like Another Must Play PS5 Console Exclusive
I haven't been able to verify it, but it looks like it's a studio of around 16 people, with several having previously worked at companies like From Software, Santa Monica, and Platinum Games.
Re: PS6 Could Be the Only Next-Gen Console Charging for Online Multiplayer
Damn, looks like Xbox isn't just back, they are back to saving gaming, right folks!? What a company!
Re: Write Full-Length Reviews for Your Favourite (or Least Favourite) PS5, PS4 Games on the PS Store
Oh boy, here it comes the review bombing.
Re: Wolverine PS5 to Finally Be Revealed in Next State of Play, It's Claimed
I just hope it's not the last thing they show. They've been revealing new things at each event since the beginning of last year, I hope they don't stop with that.
Wolverine will be cool and everything, but we already know it exists. Show me something new.
@KundaliniRising333 Sony already did a general State Of Play followed by a new one focused on one game (FF Rebirth) a week after.
February 2, 2022 - Gran Turismo 7 State Of Play
March 9, 2022 - General State Of Play
March 17, 2022 - Hogwarts Legacy State Of Play
January 31, 2024 - General State Of Play
February 6, 2024 - Final Fantasy VII Rebirth State Of Play
Re: Sony's Convoluted PS Store Refund Process Has Finally Been Streamlined
They need to sortout their licesence system before allowing refunds with played games. As it works at the moment, a person could just download the game, put the console offline and play the whole game.
Re: Tencent's Take on Horizon Would Have Taken Aloy to Asia
Sony has two online/multiplayer Horizon games in the oven. One in-house with Guerilla and the other one with NCSoft. They probably want to release those before doing any other move.
And going by the art-style that leaked, the Guerrilla multiplayer project could very well be a mobile game as well. It was VERY inspired by Fortnite.
Re: Sony Job Listing Implies More PS5 Exclusives Will Be Ported to Xbox, Nintendo
No real reason to not do it, right? Worked really well for the Xbox hardware side.
Re: Artwork of Deviation's Cancelled PS5 Project Surfaces
By the way, it looks like it was a co-op game with a big focus on story/narrative. Codename was Project Draconis... Some very short videos leaked (it was that Oooze game that some sites reported)
Re: Cory Barlog Busy on Sony Santa Monica's 'Next Big Thing'
By the way, Schreier hinted that it's not a new IP.
Re: Reaction: Helldivers 2 on Xbox Signals Another Unexpected But Not Overly Surprising Shift in Strategy from Sony
@Northern_munkey - PlayStation current CEO already stated that the cross-gen period will be even longer on the PS6. We'll probably be getting games for PS5 by 2030 or 2032.
Re: Reaction: Helldivers 2 on Xbox Signals Another Unexpected But Not Overly Surprising Shift in Strategy from Sony
Sony probably already sees PlayStation and the "standard" console of the market (which no one will catch), so makes sense to see them trying to find new ways of revenue. Sony also already has the data that says people are buying their console to play Fortnite, FIFA and COD, and not specifically first party games.
For me as a user, I'm already starting to hope that they will at least release everything for PC on Day 1. I've always liked the platform, I have a huge library but there's no reason to continue once I've built a good PC. Sony increasing the price of everything here in Brazil only pushes me further away from the platform as well.
Re: The Next Xbox Is a PC, So What Does That Mean for PS6?
It will be interesting to see how Sony will try to sell the PS6 to the hardcore audience (if it still cares about it).
PlayStation exclusives will definitely be a temporary thing since most, of not all Sony games will run on the next Xbox now (not counting multiplayer games like Helldivers 2 and Tokon that would be playable on Day 1 without any delay). Xbox will also have cheaper games, free online and so on.
PS6 will have... timed exclusives, better visuals/framerates and will you keep your library?
Re: Final Fantasy 16 May Have Underperformed on PS5, But It's Doing Terribly on Xbox
Expectations really are everything. Final Fantasy XVI bombed on PlayStation with only 3 million copies sold, while DOOM The Dark Ages was considered a success for having 3 million players
Re: Poll: How Would You Rate State of Play for June 2025?
Still amazes to see that folks really expect to see multiple first party games being announced at every event that Sony does these days. Sony didn't bought two publishers and more than 15 developers like MS did. It's not rocket science for Christ sake. Limited number of studios + games taking longer to be made = less announcements/releases. And on top of that, Sony screwup putting some studios like Bluepoint and Bend to work on some ridiculous projects.
At least Sony is acting smart with XDEV and it's funding some great projects like the Marvel one. They need more of that.
Re: Warhammer 40k: Space Marine Remaster Misses Out on PS5 for Some Reason, Exclusive to Xbox and PC
Microsoft paid to it hit exclusively on Game Pass on consoles. Not the first and won't be the last time.
Re: PlayStation Showcase, State of Play Event for May Appears Increasingly Unlikely
Wouldn't expect any event from Sony in this (north american) summer.
What will happen is: They won't do anything until September, everyone will get hyped for the September event because "they didn't show anything for a long time and they need to answer to fans this time" and everyone will end up disappointed as always.
Re: Helldivers 2 Dev Breaks Away from PlayStation, Next Game Will Be Self-Funded
@Oram77 - I think it's really hard to know that for sure. With Xbox's market share decreasing more every year, I don't know if it's so certain that the game would have sold millions there. It would probably had success if it were released on Game Pass, but the matter is quite different when it comes to individual sales.
It will be interesting to see how the studio will do. I don't think Sony sees any problem with this either, Sony always finds some somewhat unknown studios to work with and I doubt that will stop now.
Re: Round Up: Until Dawn Movie Reviews Suggest PS5, PS4 Game Is Still Better
@HRdepartment - No, not the same history. It has some elements that connects the movie to the game(s) and that universe.
Re: Marathon a 'Premium', Paid for Game on PS5, But It's Not $70
The hate with any multiplayer game coming from Sony is getting kinda funny.
"I don't want Sony to make multiplayer games, if they're going to do that, they need to buy new studios for that > Sony buys Bungie > Why are Sony and Bungie still making multiplayer games?!
Re: Single Player Games Are Still Coming from Dark Souls, Elden Ring Dev
I wonder if one of them is the rumored new Sony exclusive game.
Sony and From signed to produce a new prototype back in 2022, if that became a full production game or if it got cancelled, I guess we'll need to wait more 3 or 4 years to know.
Re: Bungie's Marathon PS5 Game Taking Over PlayStation Social Media Pages
Grubb said back in February that Sony was planning a re-reveal event for the game in April. Looks like he might be right this time.
Re: Reaction: Switch 2 Looks Solid But the Many PS5, PS4 Ports Won't Spook Sony Yet
People were saying that the Switch 2 would save gaming, I think they meant it would save publishers.
Re: Nintendo Is Raising the Price of Games with Switch 2
Don't know how but I'm sure some will twist this as a Sony fault. I mean, From announced a new multiplayer title and I already saw some YouTubers saying it's Jim Ryan's fault.
Re: Bloodborne, Elden Ring Dev Won't Be Releasing Its Next Big Game on PS5
Bloody Sony forcing those companies to work on multiplayer games. Wait...
Re: Reaction: Sony's Licensing Strategy May Be the Best Route to Reviving Some of PlayStation's Lost Classics
Really curious about the new Wipeout by SEGA (yeah, looks like it's happening).
Re: Rumour: New God of War PS5 Game Returns to Greece This Year
Lego God Of War, you heard here first.
Re: A New PlayStation Studio Just Got Confirmed on a Podcast
@RBMango - Hard to know that for sure. His project at Deviation was a third person shooter with a huge focus on coop.
Re: PlayStation Employs Bulletstorm Dev to Make New PS5 Game Based on Sony IP
Resistance 4 in collaboration with Bend.
Re: Rumoured God of War PS5 Remasters Won't Be at 20th Anniversary Event
But LilJohnGamePlay69Blaster promised that the Remasters are real!
Re: Shu Yoshida 'Really Appreciated' Indie Game Role Created by Jim Ryan
He also confirmed that he was the person who signed the contract that approved an Concord prototype with Probably Monsters (who was the owner of Firewalk at the time). Said he visited Firewalk and felt the team was a talented and experienced to work with a online game.
(And Helldivers 2 was planned to be a PS5 launch game)
Re: PSN Down as PS5, PS4 Players Can't Log In or Play Online
People on Reddit are saying it's a DDOS attack by a Pakistani group. Apparently servers for some games were also affected.
Re: Sony Issues DMCA Takedown Against Bloodborne 60FPS Mod, Four Years After Release
It would be funny if they did something with the game (remaster, update or whatever) but didn't announce anything about a possible PC version.