@Critonic 100%. That was my gripe too - the older PSVR games were on Extra, and it's BS that PSVR2 owners should stump up for Premium for them given they've already outlaid so much for the headset itself.
Would be nice if they started adding some to Extra now but won't hold my breath. Not too fussed though, at last count I have about 70 or so PSVR2 games so eating good as it is with more on the way. Can't wait for Roboquest later this week!
@Max_the_German Yeah Pavlov for example is next level, this is nowhere near on that scale. I haven't used a sniper rifle yet though so not sure how painful loading the next bolt will be for you.
Either way this is such an epic game in VR. Hybrid flat/VR ports are the way forward.
Weak take from Pushsquare here. These games are 5+ years old and not available on Playstation.
Adding to that they're somewhat buried on Meta's poorly designed oculus PCVR store to begin with (not available via Steam), so to claim that their temporary disappearance is damning on the state of VR is scraping the bottom of the barrel in search of something to write about.
I for one, was aware they were unavailable and as others have said above this has happened before, so not something to get worked up about let alone draft an article seemingly with no better purpose than crapping on VR for some reason.
The "VR/PSVR2 is dead" line is weak and uninformed. Sony mightn't be pumping out 1st party games (nor are they for the PS5 in case that's lost on the author) but there is a constant stream of games coming out for the system. Be better.
@Gooseman42 Just checked Paradise Decay's video on it and I'll be getting involved for sure! Been looking both for something else to use my wheel setup and something with traffic on the roads.
@Nakatomi_Uk I think it'll remain a high end extra for a while, although the price of good hardware is coming down. Just like the PS5 Pro there is a market for lower volume higher end tech.
No one's kidding themselves that VR is going to take over mainstream gaming or get large scale investment outside Meta any time soon, but the experience is awesome and was a good point of difference for Sony vs competitors (while xbox existed).
Powerwash simulator isn't exactly a system seller either so not really reflective of the wider space.
@breakneck great to have confirmation you reckon? It's not failed tech for most games if it's not an option for most games. The investment for GT7 was without doubt worth it as anyone who's played it on the VR2 will attest to.
Just because you don't have interest in something personally doesn't make it unworthy of investment.
Perhaps some of that Concord money would have been better 'invested' in a well known Sony IP coming to the VR space to drag in those like yourself who're yet to understand its potential.
No idea why anyone even bothers to read articles put out by Takashi Mochizuki. He's spun no much verified garbage that it seems anything he writes is speculative at best.
@__jamiie it's a disingenuous argument. The PSVR2 didn't cost you that much, a PS5 and the VR2 did.
The target audience for the VR2 are those who already have a PS5, that's your baseline. From there both are essentially the same price and to suggest you're paying the whole 1200 for the VR2 is wilful ignorance.
@__jamiie But they're essentially the same price? Or are you arguing that PS5 is needed? Cause if you're on here then chances are you already have one, no?
I think there's a bit of detail missing from the article. While the PSVR2 haptics won't be functional the controller rumble will still be. A shame but the reality is that none of the PCVR games utilise the headset feature so it's moot.
Likewise about HDR - it's still utilising OLED panels so the blacks will be true blacks and the colours will still look less washed out as a result.
Most of the things missing aren't used by any other games at present. This is still a great option where, if comparing to it's most direct competitor the Quest 3, you're looking at a tradeoff of either standalone use/pankcake lenses vs functionality with PS5/PSVR2 games and OLED.
The PSVR2 versions of games are generally the best versions and their exclusives are still absolute bangers, so it's a decent value proposition for any PS5 owners on the fence about whether they want to try VR and those fortunate enough to have a PS5 and gaming PC. Nearly all the best games (and mods) will be available via PSVR2 now which is a win.
@RBMango Same here. Their reddit page used to be really fun, now it's 98% complaints about one thing or another, even complaints about complaints. It's no longer an enjoyable component of the HD2 community which is a damn shame as that's part of what's fueled it's popularity.
The bipolarity of their fanatacism is over the top and a real turnoff. Thankfully the game and online playerbase is still awesome (despite what some of the posts would have you eblieve)
I think they're just going to have to incentivise the PSN account side of things. Actually hoping they do and make it something that'd annoy the whiners to miss out on.
I'm happy that Sony will listen if enough people are loud enough (how vocal do we need to be to get a PSVR2 roadmap?) but this was a massive overreaction for something players were warned about from the start then started acting like they were blindsided.
The toxicity around the issue (or any balance changes Arrowhead make that inconvenience them for that matter) is unwarranted.
Reflective of the childish overreaction by most. There was a real issue with those outside of PSN serviced countries potentially not being able to play but the real backlash was by those mildly inconvenienced and then acting outraged that their data could be scraped. Absolute babies about it.
I knew it would have been Takashi "reporting" this before I'd even seen his name in the article. His often baseless clickbait should have had his contract with Bloomberg ended by now.
I would bail from the squad immediately, the pressure associated with extraction of limited resources is a massive part of the appeal and camaraderie with this game
@get2sammyb any chance this list could be updated with the games mentioned above in the comments? Your list is super thin compared to what's actually been announced.
The original Burnout was the most intense game I've ever played. High stakes and super unforgiving with maximum adrenaline. The others are fantastic and built on the formula but I always appreciated how savage that game was.
@thefourfoldroot1 100% this. All of the hybrid games (incl RE4) I've held off playing until I could play in VR due to the superior immersion.
Being able to play in VR is transformative and brings the promised land of AAA quality to the headset as the financial prospects of a studio aren't limited to only VR sales.
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Re: Sony's PS Plus Premium Offer for PSVR2 Games Seems to Die Next Month
@Critonic 100%. That was my gripe too - the older PSVR games were on Extra, and it's BS that PSVR2 owners should stump up for Premium for them given they've already outlaid so much for the headset itself.
Would be nice if they started adding some to Extra now but won't hold my breath. Not too fussed though, at last count I have about 70 or so PSVR2 games so eating good as it is with more on the way. Can't wait for Roboquest later this week!
Re: No Man's Sky Voyagers Reinvents Player Ships in Latest Free Mega-Update on PS5, PS4
@KeldorTheCursed seriously unreal update from them to get PSSR to work in VR!
Re: Hands On: Hitman: World of Assassination Is a Must-Play on PSVR2
@Max_the_German Yeah Pavlov for example is next level, this is nowhere near on that scale. I haven't used a sniper rifle yet though so not sure how painful loading the next bolt will be for you.
Either way this is such an epic game in VR. Hybrid flat/VR ports are the way forward.
Re: Hands On: Hitman: World of Assassination Is a Must-Play on PSVR2
@Max_the_German No button press reload but the mechanism is in-between button press and simulation so it's a pretty good compromise.
1st and foremost it's a stealth game, you're usually overwhelmed in straight gunfights and a button press reload is unlikely to save you.
Re: Hitman PSVR2 Could Very Well Be Some of the Most Fun You'll Find on PS5 This Year
@xDD90x as Flobbots said, there is a VR mod for Alien Isolation on PC, called MotherVR. 1000% the best way to experience that game.
BYO brown underwear.
Re: Six Major PSVR2 Games Announced as Headset Gets Huge Price Drop
@ItsAlwaysSunnyyy Robocop Rogue City is playable in VR on PC via the UEVR inector. Just need a pretty beefy system from what i understand.
Re: Insomniac Delists, Relists VR Catalogue, and Few Even Noticed
Weak take from Pushsquare here. These games are 5+ years old and not available on Playstation.
Adding to that they're somewhat buried on Meta's poorly designed oculus PCVR store to begin with (not available via Steam), so to claim that their temporary disappearance is damning on the state of VR is scraping the bottom of the barrel in search of something to write about.
I for one, was aware they were unavailable and as others have said above this has happened before, so not something to get worked up about let alone draft an article seemingly with no better purpose than crapping on VR for some reason.
The "VR/PSVR2 is dead" line is weak and uninformed. Sony mightn't be pumping out 1st party games (nor are they for the PS5 in case that's lost on the author) but there is a constant stream of games coming out for the system. Be better.
Re: The World Is Showing It's Ready for Tokyo Xtreme Racer on PS5
@Gooseman42 Just checked Paradise Decay's video on it and I'll be getting involved for sure! Been looking both for something else to use my wheel setup and something with traffic on the roads.
Re: PowerWash Simulator Folds In VR Team, Putting Further Support on Ice
@Nakatomi_Uk I think it'll remain a high end extra for a while, although the price of good hardware is coming down. Just like the PS5 Pro there is a market for lower volume higher end tech.
No one's kidding themselves that VR is going to take over mainstream gaming or get large scale investment outside Meta any time soon, but the experience is awesome and was a good point of difference for Sony vs competitors (while xbox existed).
Powerwash simulator isn't exactly a system seller either so not really reflective of the wider space.
Re: PowerWash Simulator Folds In VR Team, Putting Further Support on Ice
@breakneck great to have confirmation you reckon? It's not failed tech for most games if it's not an option for most games. The investment for GT7 was without doubt worth it as anyone who's played it on the VR2 will attest to.
Just because you don't have interest in something personally doesn't make it unworthy of investment.
Perhaps some of that Concord money would have been better 'invested' in a well known Sony IP coming to the VR space to drag in those like yourself who're yet to understand its potential.
Re: Game of the Year: Best PSVR2 Game of 2024
Madison should be on this list
Re: Behemoth (PSVR2) - Great Concept, Poor Execution
4 is seriously harsh. Even with the criticisms levelled anything less than a 6 is unwarranted
Re: Shocking: Sony Promotes PSVR2 with New Trailer Showcasing Upcoming Games
For any new buyers, Without Parole on youtube just did a vid with 50 essential games for the PSVR2 and their list is spot on.
So many great titles and that list can help you prioritise which ones to look at first.
Re: Kadokawa Wants Sony's Full Commitment with Buyout of Entire Company
No idea why anyone even bothers to read articles put out by Takashi Mochizuki. He's spun no much verified garbage that it seems anything he writes is speculative at best.
Re: Veteran Trophy Hunter Hakoom Quits PlayStation Over Alleged Account Suspension Storm
Removed
Re: Metro Awakening (PSVR2) - One of the Most Immersive VR Games Ever
Not sure why anyone would opt for the quest version unless it's cheaper. The OLED and advanced haptics/headset haptics rock
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced During Sony's State of Play Livestream for September 2024?
Ah, did I miss something or is there no mention above of the PSVR2 content?
Hitman, midnight walk and Metro aren't mentioned here.
Either way pretty solid for a SoP in general
Re: 'It Makes Sense Why the PS5 Pro Price Is So High,' Say Tech Experts
The PS6 will cost at least this, but i reckon it'll be $700.
People seem to ignore that gaming has actually been getting cheaper vs inflation for the last 2 decades, which isn't sustainable.
Re: Fatal Run 2089 Revives Atari's Classic Combat Racer on PS5
UEVR injector for the win!
Re: More Spicy Helldivers 2 Drama as Freedom's Flame Backlash Boils Over
Pack of babies throwing their toys out of the cot again
Re: Tiebreak Aims to Topple TopSpin 2K25 with a Huge Licensed Roster on PS5, PS4
Bring back smash court tennis!
Re: Metro Awakening the Subject of New PSVR2 Screenshots
@__jamiie it's a disingenuous argument. The PSVR2 didn't cost you that much, a PS5 and the VR2 did.
The target audience for the VR2 are those who already have a PS5, that's your baseline. From there both are essentially the same price and to suggest you're paying the whole 1200 for the VR2 is wilful ignorance.
Re: Metro Awakening the Subject of New PSVR2 Screenshots
@__jamiie But they're essentially the same price? Or are you arguing that PS5 is needed? Cause if you're on here then chances are you already have one, no?
Re: PSVR2's PC Adapter Available on 7th August, Costs $60
I think there's a bit of detail missing from the article. While the PSVR2 haptics won't be functional the controller rumble will still be. A shame but the reality is that none of the PCVR games utilise the headset feature so it's moot.
Likewise about HDR - it's still utilising OLED panels so the blacks will be true blacks and the colours will still look less washed out as a result.
Most of the things missing aren't used by any other games at present. This is still a great option where, if comparing to it's most direct competitor the Quest 3, you're looking at a tradeoff of either standalone use/pankcake lenses vs functionality with PS5/PSVR2 games and OLED.
The PSVR2 versions of games are generally the best versions and their exclusives are still absolute bangers, so it's a decent value proposition for any PS5 owners on the fence about whether they want to try VR and those fortunate enough to have a PS5 and gaming PC. Nearly all the best games (and mods) will be available via PSVR2 now which is a win.
Re: PS5 Players Are Buying Fewer New Games, But Spending More Than Ever Overall
As a PSVR2 user I've bought about 20 more games in the past year than any year before that
Re: Helldivers Turn on Arrowhead Following Undemocratic Firing of Community Manager
@RBMango Same here. Their reddit page used to be really fun, now it's 98% complaints about one thing or another, even complaints about complaints. It's no longer an enjoyable component of the HD2 community which is a damn shame as that's part of what's fueled it's popularity.
The bipolarity of their fanatacism is over the top and a real turnoff. Thankfully the game and online playerbase is still awesome (despite what some of the posts would have you eblieve)
Re: Helldivers 2 May Turn Negative Steam Reviews into a Fashionable In-Game Cape
@ShogunRok you read my kind with that first comment haha. Maybe 4 tears running down the cape.
Re: Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement Backtracked on PC After Brutal Review Bombing Campaign
I think they're just going to have to incentivise the PSN account side of things. Actually hoping they do and make it something that'd annoy the whiners to miss out on.
I'm happy that Sony will listen if enough people are loud enough (how vocal do we need to be to get a PSVR2 roadmap?) but this was a massive overreaction for something players were warned about from the start then started acting like they were blindsided.
The toxicity around the issue (or any balance changes Arrowhead make that inconvenience them for that matter) is unwarranted.
Re: Review Bombers Were Even Attacking Other Games Made by Helldivers 2 Dev
Reflective of the childish overreaction by most. There was a real issue with those outside of PSN serviced countries potentially not being able to play but the real backlash was by those mildly inconvenienced and then acting outraged that their data could be scraped. Absolute babies about it.
Re: Helldivers 2 Players Encountering Factory Striders in Unprecedented Numbers
I'm loving the regular war effort coverage
Re: Transmog System 'Doesn't Make Sense' in Helldivers 2, Says CEO
This guy seems to underestimate how much demand there is for apples to taste like bacon
Re: Random: Seven Years Later, No Man's Sky's Reputation Is Slowly Improving
Hell yes it's amazing in the PSVR2
Re: Sony Allegedly Pausing PSVR2 Production Due to Surplus of Unsold Stock
I knew it would have been Takashi "reporting" this before I'd even seen his name in the article. His often baseless clickbait should have had his contract with Bloomberg ended by now.
Re: Helldivers 2 PS5 Patch Adds Planetary Hazards, Rebalances Weapons, More
Seems to be crashing more eon PS5 these past couple of days unfortunately
Re: Incoming Helldivers 2 PS5 Patch Adds Planetary Hazards, Rebalances Weapons, More
@RBMango apparently it's been nerfed a little more than is ideal. Hopefully they'll rebuff it a bit
Re: Capcom Confirms Two-Day Showcase, Featuring Dragon's Dogma 2 and More
@Pat84 I'm praying to the Capgods that you're right on both fronts
Re: Poll: Are You Still Playing Helldivers 2?
Fully addicted with no signs of slowing down and have barely touched any of the automaton missions yet
Re: Heavy Armour Seemingly En-Route as Helldivers 2 Mech Gameplay Leaks
@Flashfordy2000 absolutely. Can play with randoms with or without voice chat too as you can use other means of communication. This game is sick
Re: Helldivers 2 War Effort Undermined by Sample Cheats and Traitors
I would bail from the squad immediately, the pressure associated with extraction of limited resources is a massive part of the appeal and camaraderie with this game
Re: Despite Recent Success, Bandai Namco Reveals It Cancelled at Least Five In-Development Games
Reallllllly hoping a new Ace Combat in VR didn't get turfed
Re: Helldivers 2 (PS5) - The Best Co-Op Shooter on PS5
Can confirm, is awesome in giant screen cinema mode on PSVR2
Re: Rumour: Astro Bot Will Return for Another PS5 Rescue Mission This Year
@2here2there Seems you didn't read the first paragraph
Re: New PSVR2 Games Release Dates in 2024
@get2sammyb any chance this list could be updated with the games mentioned above in the comments? Your list is super thin compared to what's actually been announced.
Re: New PSVR2 Games Release Dates in 2024
@Styledvinny79 that would be an epic win
Re: Subnautica Sequel Surfaces Unexpectedly, More Information Later This Year
VR would be amazing for this one
Re: New Burnout Game Possibly Teased in Developer Tweet
The original Burnout was the most intense game I've ever played. High stakes and super unforgiving with maximum adrenaline. The others are fantastic and built on the formula but I always appreciated how savage that game was.
Re: Fresh State of Play Rumours Running Rampant, Lots of Games Speculated
Metro Awakening (VR title) allegedly....
Re: TopSpin 2K25 Brings Back Ace Tennis Series After 13-Year Absence
Bring back Smash Court Tennis, still the GOAT
Re: Mini Review: Vertigo 2 (PSVR2) - Phenomenal VR Shooter Shares a Lot of DNA with Half-Life
@thefourfoldroot1 100% this. All of the hybrid games (incl RE4) I've held off playing until I could play in VR due to the superior immersion.
Being able to play in VR is transformative and brings the promised land of AAA quality to the headset as the financial prospects of a studio aren't limited to only VR sales.
Re: Mini Review: Vertigo 2 (PSVR2) - Phenomenal VR Shooter Shares a Lot of DNA with Half-Life
Stoked to see a VR game get more than 7/10 on PS, must be epic!