Surely the solution instead of releasing a definitive edition which original owners are left out of, is to offer an upgrade offer.
However, the REAL problem is the perception that the launch version is not the 'full version' of the game, so instead of revising the original game it's better to offer a new, follow-up adventure.
It’s a made for mobile game so I understand why Sony didn’t want it to compete with its own Horizon multiplayer game. But a lot of the reaction to the Korean character models has been positive.
The official Rockstar website says ‘These new console versions — created in collaboration with Double Eleven and Cast Iron Games — will also be available in the GTA+ Games Library and the PlayStation Plus Game Catalog on December 2.’
It’s going to be a branded PlayStation monitor but it won’t even be able to display PS5 games at their best because it’s not even 4K. And yes you can see the difference even on a 27” monitor. It seems a shortsighted move.
I don’t know if it was dynamic pricing or not but once I saw Forza Horizon 5 for £24.99 and I bought it immediately. Another time I saw Gears of War for £24.99 and I didn’t get it, and the next time I saw it, it was £29.99.
Super-odd to give away the whole game - for a limited time. I’m guessing Microsoft is seeing signs that people who have lost connection to the franchise, or no connection to it, will migrate to Battlefield.
Bullfrog would probably have succeeded better if managed by Sony rather than Phil Spencer. Now you have other studios profiting from the legacy of the Theme games his team created.
@kailun I do get what @Dalamar is saying, he means the third release from the studio is a remake of the first. I recently bought from PSN the second game Yooka-Laylee and The Impossible Lair, although I haven’t played much of it.
The trailers depicted it as an open world (open planet) game but in fact it was a load to move between all the areas. The spacecraft was just an illusion, decoration. Players wanted to emulate No Man’s Sky gameplay of get in your ship and fly anywhere.
I’ve only played the start of Starfield on Xbox, but would love to play this new revised game.
The other story about the PlayStation job listing mentions ‘optimising title profitability.’ I think this could mean, making more money out of an IP by porting it to other platforms.
If Sony does start releasing single player games on other platforms I think The Last of Us might be first.
I'm not one of those people who hate Jim Ryan, but he is responsible for the half-hearted launch. PlayStation was releasing a brand new hardware product and the only thing it did to promote the launch was a blog post! There should have at least been a 30 minute State of Play going through its capabilities and highlighting games. People want to be sold to, and it would've helped create a greater launch momentum. Maybe Sony should wait until the PS7 generation to launch another.
This Xbox Showcase revealed almost all non-indie games would also be released on PS5 with the logo viewable. A sign of the times that Xbox has really gone third party.
I 100% agree. There is no need to be releasing a dead disc. It’s something I have thought about that Push Square has the influence to make Sony listen and set rules for all publishers.
This just goes to show why EXCLUSIVES matter (and yes I know it's not exclusive but in Japan it effectively is, until Switch 2). PS5 did 4x its sales of 24,650 units sales in December (source: Gematsu).
When a game is so desired people will buy a brand new console just to play it.
It's funny how the format wars go as there's a lot of formerly 'bleed green' Xbox extremists saying this is great news as it means Microsoft is getting more money!
The high preorders is a strong sign that Halo:MCC is coming this year.
@nessisonett That video was perfect for that moment in time, capturing the sentiment of all players. It was of that era so its is wrong to say the video is out of date, especially as that solution, disc-lending, still works.
But what one can do is reflect and say there isn’t a game sharing solution for PlayStation’s digital only users.
This TV series will go down in history as having the worst miscast character.
@DiscoStuUK Yep. The last episode was so rushed it lost the emotional weight of the game’s ending. Not enough infected in every episode. I get that the game was taken to another level by the quiet moments, but quiet moments without enough action or danger diminishes them.
FFVII Rebirth launched just 7 months after FFXVI. There will have been an overlap of customers and buying two huge FF games and then completing them would’ve been too much for some people. The games should have been better spaced out.
@nessisonett There was no restriction or console exclusive arrangement to keep it off Xbox, however the reason it hasn’t been released there is because Black Myth is resource intensive, and Microsoft’s Series X/S parity clause meant a Series S version could not be completed in time for launch.
@Frmknst There’s a joy to be had from seeing old favourites but Obi-wan pretty much killed it for me. I will agree with you on Andor, I was surprised that I found it superb and it demonstrated what an original story in the universe could be.
The Disney sequels to Star Wars were sacrilege - however I’m looking forward to giving the Lego game a go. I have fond memories of playing Lego Star Wars the Complete Saga on 360 back before the characters could speak!
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Re: No Cyberpunk 2077 Update Planned for RPG's 5th Anniversary
January 2026?
The very specific denial sounds like another update IS cooking.
Re: SEGA Actually Admits Persona 5 Royal-Style Re-Releases May Result in Stunted Game Sales
Surely the solution instead of releasing a definitive edition which original owners are left out of, is to offer an upgrade offer.
However, the REAL problem is the perception that the launch version is not the 'full version' of the game, so instead of revising the original game it's better to offer a new, follow-up adventure.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Now at a Staggering 35 Million Sales as Work on Sequel Continues to Ramp Up
Push Square should Push CD Projekt Red to make a PS5 Pro patch.
Re: 'We'd Love to Do It': Sounds Like NCSOFT Wants Horizon Steel Frontiers on PS5 as Much as You
It’s a made for mobile game so I understand why Sony didn’t want it to compete with its own Horizon multiplayer game. But a lot of the reaction to the Korean character models has been positive.
Re: Red Dead Redemption 1 Confirmed for PS5, Out 2nd December
FREE with PSN!
The official Rockstar website says ‘These new console versions — created in collaboration with Double Eleven and Cast Iron Games — will also be available in the GTA+ Games Library and the PlayStation Plus Game Catalog on December 2.’
https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/258282o585k1ka/red-dead-redemption-coming-to-netflix-ios-android-ps5-xbox-series-and
Re: PS5 Is Getting an Official 27" Monitor with DualSense Charging Functionality
It’s going to be a branded PlayStation monitor but it won’t even be able to display PS5 games at their best because it’s not even 4K. And yes you can see the difference even on a 27” monitor. It seems a shortsighted move.
Re: Some PS5 Owners Might Be Paying More Than Others on PS Store
I don’t know if it was dynamic pricing or not but once I saw Forza Horizon 5 for £24.99 and I bought it immediately.
Another time I saw Gears of War for £24.99 and I didn’t get it, and the next time I saw it, it was £29.99.
Re: Bethesda Is Working on New Fallout Games, Todd Howard Confirms
“ Bethesda is working on new Fallout games.” Are these full role playing games, or more pay-to-win mobile games like Fallout Shelter?
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for October 2025?
I know it’s Halloween month but not everything needs to be a horror game.
Re: Write Full-Length Reviews for Your Favourite (or Least Favourite) PS5, PS4 Games on the PS Store
At first I suspect Sony will probably review the reviews.
Re: Black Ops 6 Trial Will Let You Play the Full Single Player Story for Free on PS5, PS4
Super-odd to give away the whole game - for a limited time. I’m guessing Microsoft is seeing signs that people who have lost connection to the franchise, or no connection to it, will migrate to Battlefield.
Re: Peter Molyneux Very Nearly Became a First-Party PlayStation Dev
Bullfrog would probably have succeeded better if managed by Sony rather than Phil Spencer. Now you have other studios profiting from the legacy of the Theme games his team created.
Re: Overlooked Elder Scrolls-Like RPG Tainted Grail Just Got a Gigantic Update on PS5
I've never heard of this before! The Skyrim comparison made me notice - has it got a first-person mode?
Re: Scratch That Banjo-Kazooie Itch in PS5 Remake Yooka-Replaylee, Out in October
@kailun I do get what @Dalamar is saying, he means the third release from the studio is a remake of the first. I recently bought from PSN the second game Yooka-Laylee and The Impossible Lair, although I haven’t played much of it.
Re: 'There's No Real Need for a PS6': Industry Veteran Weighs in on Next-Gen Debate
Here in 2025 I agree there's no real need for a PS6. However in 2028 I think I will feel differently.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Starfield Is Getting Some Hefty Gameplay Reworks for Its PS5 Release
@Darude84
I would guess that it would work similar to NMS with some kind of light speed /faster travel option!
Re: Rumour: Xbox Exclusive Starfield Is Getting Some Hefty Gameplay Reworks for Its PS5 Release
The trailers depicted it as an open world (open planet) game but in fact it was a load to move between all the areas. The spacecraft was just an illusion, decoration. Players wanted to emulate No Man’s Sky gameplay of get in your ship and fly anywhere.
I’ve only played the start of Starfield on Xbox, but would love to play this new revised game.
Re: Sony's Not Done Finding New Ways to Sell You The Last of Us
The other story about the PlayStation job listing mentions ‘optimising title profitability.’ I think this could mean, making more money out of an IP by porting it to other platforms.
If Sony does start releasing single player games on other platforms I think The Last of Us might be first.
Re: UK Citizens Using Death Stranding 2 on PS5 to Bypass Porn Blocks
‘it just takes a little more effort and nous than saying you were born in 1900 now.’
I wasn’t the only one! 🤣
Re: Talking Point: Is It Officially Game Over for PSVR2?
I'm not one of those people who hate Jim Ryan, but he is responsible for the half-hearted launch. PlayStation was releasing a brand new hardware product and the only thing it did to promote the launch was a blog post! There should have at least been a 30 minute State of Play going through its capabilities and highlighting games. People want to be sold to, and it would've helped create a greater launch momentum. Maybe Sony should wait until the PS7 generation to launch another.
Re: PS6's Rumoured Handheld Is Getting More Tangible by the Day
I can’t wait! I’d happily buy the PS6 home console and PS6 Portable at launch. 😘
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced for PS5 at Xbox Games Showcase?
This Xbox Showcase revealed almost all non-indie games would also be released on PS5 with the logo viewable. A sign of the times that Xbox has really gone third party.
Re: Deliver At All Costs (PS5) - Special Delivery with Mixed Results
‘Overly instanced open world’ means too much loading between different areas?
Re: Reaction: Game Key PS5 Discs Are a Disgrace, and Sony Should Put a Stop to Them
I 100% agree. There is no need to be releasing a dead disc. It’s something I have thought about that Push Square has the influence to make Sony listen and set rules for all publishers.
Re: Plenty of People Are Playing Expedition 33 on PS5, Despite Having to Actually Buy It
I think it’s relevant to share the detail that 96% of game sales physical in the UK are on PS5.
Re: PS5 Price Increases Announced by Sony, Immediately Affects UK, Europe, and More
As of Monday evening a PS5 Digital Slim on Amazon.co.uk is £344.46.
Re: Sony Won't Force PSN on Xbox, PC Players of Marathon
Why not make it mandatory for Xbox players? As Microsoft does with its sign on for PlayStation players.
Re: PS5 Mega-Flop Concord Is Reaching Absurdly High Prices on eBay
@nessisonett What a clever observation!
Re: PlayStation Employs Bulletstorm Dev to Make New PS5 Game Based on Sony IP
Horizon Zero Dawn FPS: Aloe's Fury
Re: Japan Sales Charts: PS5 Sells Over 100k Consoles in a Week as Monster Hunter Wilds Explodes
This just goes to show why EXCLUSIVES matter (and yes I know it's not exclusive but in Japan it effectively is, until Switch 2). PS5 did 4x its sales of 24,650 units sales in December (source: Gematsu).
When a game is so desired people will buy a brand new console just to play it.
Re: PS5 Players Drive Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 to the Top of the PS Store Pre-Order Charts All Around the World
It's funny how the format wars go as there's a lot of formerly 'bleed green' Xbox extremists saying this is great news as it means Microsoft is getting more money!
The high preorders is a strong sign that Halo:MCC is coming this year.
Re: Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 Snatches April Release Date on PS5, Priced at $60
I think Microsoft is testing the waters to see how high it can go with pricing for PlayStation users.
Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 Is So Good Gamers Are Now Gifting It to Each Other
@nessisonett That video was perfect for that moment in time, capturing the sentiment of all players. It was of that era so its is wrong to say the video is out of date, especially as that solution, disc-lending, still works.
But what one can do is reflect and say there isn’t a game sharing solution for PlayStation’s digital only users.
Re: HBO's The Last of Us Will Likely Run for Four Seasons
This TV series will go down in history as having the worst miscast character.
@DiscoStuUK Yep. The last episode was so rushed it lost the emotional weight of the game’s ending. Not enough infected in every episode. I get that the game was taken to another level by the quiet moments, but quiet moments without enough action or danger diminishes them.
Re: Sifu Dev Is Making a Crazy Online Football Game Called Rematch, for PS5 in 2025
10 points to Gryffindor for that clever FIFU subheader.
Re: PS5 Home Screen Customisable with PS1, PS2, PS3, and PS4 Themes for the 30th Anniversary
I like that it’s the PS1 theme but in full, updated resolution.
Re: MGS Master Collection Update 2.0 Boosts Resolution on PS5, PS4
Why couldn’t anything have been done to improve MGS1 or might that come with time?
Re: Spider-Man 2 Won't Receive Any PS5 Story DLC
Don't be sad about a lack of Spider-Man 2 dlc - just like Miles Morales, the Venom game will be its own standalone title.
Re: PS5's New Welcome Page Rolling Out to UK Accounts
@Jrs1 You can turn it off!
This video explains how: https://youtu.be/JiEg2uhYE1s
I liked the ethereal music for a bit after I first bought my PS5 but turned it off soon after. Recently I even turned off the menu clicks.
Re: Diablo 4 Joins Growing List of Games That'll Be PS5 Pro Enhanced
I hope Cyberpunk 2077 gets a PS5 Pro patch.
Re: Bickering Begins Over PS5 Pro's Inability to Sell Out
Let's be honest, Tom Warren should be a professional but he doesn't behave like one. He is a shill with a salaried job.
Re: Random: Xbox Boss Complains About X Button After Being Handed PS5 Pad
He better get used to it as in 2025 he’s going to be playing a lot more Xbox games on PlayStation!
Re: Mini Review: Broken Sword: Shadow of the Templars Reforged (PS5) - Wonderful Remaster of One of the Best Adventure Games of All Time
@johncalmc Hi John. Does this begin where the original game begins or does it now include the prologue that was added for The Director's Cut?
Does the music sound clearer than in the original PC game?
Re: PS5 Exclusives Final Fantasy 16, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Failed to Meet Expectations
FFVII Rebirth launched just 7 months after FFXVI.
There will have been an overlap of customers and buying two huge FF games and then completing them would’ve been too much for some people. The games should have been better spaced out.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Star Wars Outlaws?
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Re: Black Myth: Wukong Has Sold an Astonishing 10 Million Copies in Three Days on PS5, PC
@nessisonett There was no restriction or console exclusive arrangement to keep it off Xbox, however the reason it hasn’t been released there is because Black Myth is resource intensive, and Microsoft’s Series X/S parity clause meant a Series S version could not be completed in time for launch.
Re: Cult Hit Bleat-'Em-Up Goat Simulator Gets Remastered on PS5 Later This Year
Bleat-em-up!
Genius.
Re: Sony Seemingly Leaks PC Port for Red Dead Redemption in PS Store Listing
I’m wondering how this happened and the PC edition info would be put on the totally separate PlayStation store - did Rockstar send the wrong copy?
Re: PS Plus Essential Has 3 More PS5, PS4 Games to Download Now
@Frmknst There’s a joy to be had from seeing old favourites but Obi-wan pretty much killed it for me. I will agree with you on Andor, I was surprised that I found it superb and it demonstrated what an original story in the universe could be.
Re: PS Plus Essential Has 3 More PS5, PS4 Games to Download Now
The Disney sequels to Star Wars were sacrilege - however I’m looking forward to giving the Lego game a go. I have fond memories of playing Lego Star Wars the Complete Saga on 360 back before the characters could speak!