If the game wasn't made in China none of this would have happened as exclusivity deals happen all the time. I genuinely believe all the was spurred on by Bloomberg, the same that started the anti china tech wars. In fact, all of this is so much misinformation I can't help but feel it's government stirring the pot as they see Chinese game companies as threats.
Jeeze that's some harsh words from PushSqaure! You guys really didn't like this one did you?
I hope Sony "unback" live service games unless they are free. Counterstrike worked, team fortress worked and many others did because they started free, gathered the feedback, listened to people and then charged for.extras. Starting paid only and premium killed it.
These articles are basically kicking the game while it's down after stabbing it in the back 30 times. PushSqaure really doesnt like this game! Can't they add bots to cover off the lack of people like fZero on switch?
Wow why does this game feel like GTA5 now? Tbh the way Lego games go I can wait a year or so for it to be on ps plus. Depends how much of a discount I would get. Tbh I would happily pay for an upgraded Lego city undercover - it has eye wateringly long load times that it puts me off playing it so much. Ps5 load times would suit that game so very much.
DLC is a lovely bonus to a game I already think will be very "complete" on purchase. I've put my weight behind this one with pre ordering digital. Only 3 games so far have won that privilege in my near 30 years of games buying! But extra content, delivered as part of the asking price should be the way to go. Bamco/Capcom take note!
For en us territory, there is a physical switch version and a ps4 version. However selecting en UK only shows the PS4 version. I've taken the risk and bought from Amazon US (even though it's out of stock).
Does this really mean there is not going to be a physical switch release in UK or even Europe? I bloody hope not, but at least I hope I've got my physical copy!
Hopefully both square and Sony are learning that the future isn't live service games. Hopefully. Let alone getting us to pay for the live service. Get back to making phenomenal brilliant games and we will all be happy.
Looks like it's flight sim according to the rumour mill. Might even be flight sim 2020 rather than 2024
Funny how they will sell these games in a traditional manor on other consoles rather than supporting gamepass. That would mean Sony were right longer term as selling games rather than subscription is more sustainable. I would not be surprised if gamepass increased twice next year eventually hitting something like £30-40 a month. They have to claw back all that buying somehow!
That is one of the worst websites I've seen. Three way scrolling to see games list? Amazingly bad colour schemes? That basically puts me off straight away!
TL;DR: Sony/Nintendo were right, Microsoft is wrong with gamepass. Gamepass isn't sustainable longer term with all the buy outs + the impending increases in subscription charges. I suspect it will get to the point where it's £40 monthly eventually which will block the majority of users and will kill the Xbox eventually. Talking a couple of years a way however
Was on the.fence, looked about 4pm and there was some stock left on Smyth's UK, sat on the fence and now all gone. Truth is, I would have only bought this to sell, which is unfair so I'm probably glad I gave it a miss
Yer I'm not watching these as I want to play the game and get surprised! Good for those on the fence but surely everyone will buy this right? It's great
Sonic, the new Micky mouse - he's appearing everywhere, all of the time, which makes him feel cheap and nasty. Shame, I do like a good sonic game, I just don't like the recent blatant cash grabs.
GT7, the gift that keeps on giving. If only other games followed this pattern of free content updates. Shame GT7 they added the currency buying, other than that it's great. Bamco - I'm looking at you, especially Tekken 8!
@ATaco I personally think it's been a hack, or a ransom demand of.some kind for ps stars. Also they keep saying no one will loose points etc but I suspect when it comes back they will blanket give everyone 500 points or something, and ask people to contact directly if they have bought a game in the time period rather than them automatically add. It's going to be a ***** show I recon!
@Zeke68 thing is AI is the modern way to package in an easier sell for what has been being done for years. Data collection is in everything already, with varying degrees of intrusiveness. The "AI" banner means people are more likely to accept even more intrusive collection, because it means.... Well, AI right? Even though no one actually knows how to use AI some something useful yet and the capability isn't there other than it effectively being a modern web crawler with far more information than previously provided, there is very little intelligence in current AI.
So sure, sign away your data for a purpose unknown when it brings no real benefit to you the consumer! It's a backwards world where until recently companies used to pay huge amounts of money to get the type of data we now give away for free, because it comes under a "feature" banner.
Apple started this with iPods which have been collecting data since then, Google has been doing it since day1, and Amazon is scary what they collect. If you disagree with any of this, your online life will become quite limited and that's the issue - if you don't accept the terms, you don't get much functionality!
@shonenjump86 MvC on the PS1 was very disappointing, let alone pocket fighter which basically only offered the arcade game barely... The Saturn was the king of 2d at that time, only superseded by the Dreamcast really, which did have the capability to do decent 2d but wasn't exploited as much as everyone was going 3d at that point (except street fighter 3 3rd strike, street fighter alpha, capcom Vs snk 2 and the glorious Dreamcast arcade stick). MvC2 on the Dreamcast will be hard to beat, the single player mode getting all the characters will be hard to beat. Not sure that will come in this version as it's probably going to be the nanomi port rather than the DC one, but I can hope!
I mean, I would prefer a season pass to have that number of characters for the same price Vs 4 characters for £32 like Tekken 8. But this could be quantity Vs quality, I guess time will tell.
Funny how the digital deluxe version doesn't really offer much extra, no early access or extra content for the game, just costumes etc. Depending on the price difference for physical, I might jump there as these posters might hold the value!
This has already been debunked on the rumour circuit about 19 days ago, therefore this is indeed fake news.
I'm quite happy with my steam deck, which can play PS4 like games. I would love a device that actually does play PS4 games, but isn't that called the switch2?
According to everything I read on the internet, ps plus subscribers hate the games ever month, ps plus extra all hate the games that are removed each month and everyone hates ps plus premium. But if you look at these stats, then it seems everyone is just trolling!
I got ps plus extra for a year for around £53 with 15% psn vouchers + 30odd percent off for returning subscriptions end of Jan (I was unsubscribed for a month). That's about the right price IMO and what it should be offered by standard.
Currently, they are doing 30% off ps premium, so £63 in total for a year of ps premium. I'm still not sure I would use the extra stuff on premium, I have a steam deck which emulates mostly better than the ps5 currently, I would probably only use if for wipeout which used to be extra but is now premium (along with a few others)
@Ben7982 exactly this. Games were £40 for a good while for PS4 and now they are £70 or more for special editions. So it's economies of scale - lower the price and you sell more as demand will be higher. With digital I'm surprised they don't lower the price even more as they could sell millions more without much overhead.
Also ps plus extra and premium come into this too - why buy games when you get them for free on subscription?
These numbers shows the games market is increasing hugely. So for me that actually sounds like Sony's recent changes to ps plus + making games £70 has actually lowered the profit on the game's overall, where they could have made more with an ever expanding games market.
Good month for me. AEW I'm pleased is free otherwise I may have not have played it. Streets of rage 4 was on gamepass and I missed it, so I'm happy I can play now! GTA could be interesting, if they don't remove it a month or so in much like other rockstar games.
@Gamer_X I would rather the base game be free than what's happened with Tekken8 since release - that was such a kick in the teeth and I've not played since (yet) as the game makes me feel sleezy
This report makes me happy. I enjoyed astro rescue and also sackboy. I love those kind of platformers and another one will be an instant purchase for me! Can't wait, let's hope it comes out soon
@Matroska at one point I thought we were gen z but I guess that got screwed up by the next gen. Thing is with millennials I always thought that was before snowflakes, but I guess snowflakes are a subset of millennials as well?
Oh well, I'm guessing I'm old enough to start to not care about things and this should be one of them
You mean to tell me that because I was born early 80s I'm a millennial? Did care bears get remade later on? Care bears was around until late 80s I thought then died a death - at least I thought!
@DennisReynolds oh damn your probably right. Been avoiding this game because I can't stand in game currencies or loot boxing. I guess I'll continue that!
Hopefully a whole bunch of micro transactions and extra currency are not added like Tekken after reviews etc. I'm so burned by Tekken 8 I now think every game might do this!
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Re: Reaction: PlayStation Needs to Take a Long, Hard Look at Itself
@evasdf the beta was free I believe, I was playing CS 0.2 onwards.
Re: Black Myth: Wukong's Xbox Delay Isn't Due to Platform Limitations, Says Microsoft
If the game wasn't made in China none of this would have happened as exclusivity deals happen all the time. I genuinely believe all the was spurred on by Bloomberg, the same that started the anti china tech wars. In fact, all of this is so much misinformation I can't help but feel it's government stirring the pot as they see Chinese game companies as threats.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation Needs to Take a Long, Hard Look at Itself
Jeeze that's some harsh words from PushSqaure! You guys really didn't like this one did you?
I hope Sony "unback" live service games unless they are free. Counterstrike worked, team fortress worked and many others did because they started free, gathered the feedback, listened to people and then charged for.extras. Starting paid only and premium killed it.
Re: PlayStation Fans Think Hideo Kojima's Teasing PS5 Pro, But It's One Hell of a Reach
Jokes on all of us - it's a ps6 dev kit!
Re: How Long Does It Take to Find a Match in Concord on PS5, PC?
These articles are basically kicking the game while it's down after stabbing it in the back 30 times. PushSqaure really doesnt like this game! Can't they add bots to cover off the lack of people like fZero on switch?
Re: LEGO Harry Potter Collection Will Be Re-Released for a Third Time on PS5
Wow why does this game feel like GTA5 now? Tbh the way Lego games go I can wait a year or so for it to be on ps plus. Depends how much of a discount I would get. Tbh I would happily pay for an upgraded Lego city undercover - it has eye wateringly long load times that it puts me off playing it so much. Ps5 load times would suit that game so very much.
Re: PS5's Astro Bot Marketing Onslaught Starting in Busy Shopping Mall
@Pusher2021 is that to justify buying the astro controller?
Really wished I did buy that now but also had a "being sensible" moment
Re: Let the Astro Bot PS5 Launch Trailer Tide You Over Until Release
fingers in my ears
La la la - ignoring!
I've waited this long, I can wait 7 days
Re: Astro Bot's Free DLC Will Add Speed Run Stages By the End of 2024 on PS5
DLC is a lovely bonus to a game I already think will be very "complete" on purchase. I've put my weight behind this one with pre ordering digital. Only 3 games so far have won that privilege in my near 30 years of games buying! But extra content, delivered as part of the asking price should be the way to go. Bamco/Capcom take note!
Re: Stunning Crossover Compilation Marvel vs Capcom Makes Its PS4 Digital Debut Next Month
No physical switch version in the UK?
Just looking at the official website: https://www.capcom-games.com/marvel-vs-capcom-fc/en-us/product/#physical
For en us territory, there is a physical switch version and a ps4 version. However selecting en UK only shows the PS4 version. I've taken the risk and bought from Amazon US (even though it's out of stock).
Does this really mean there is not going to be a physical switch release in UK or even Europe? I bloody hope not, but at least I hope I've got my physical copy!
Re: Forgotten PS Plus Shooter Foamstars Goes Free-to-Play in October
Anyone remember destruction all stars?
Hopefully both square and Sony are learning that the future isn't live service games. Hopefully. Let alone getting us to pay for the live service. Get back to making phenomenal brilliant games and we will all be happy.
Re: Test Your PlayStation General Knowledge - Issue 25
Well I knew nothing for this one! 2/10 doh
Re: Rumour: Xbox to Announce a 'Big' Game Coming to PS5 at Gamescom
Looks like it's flight sim according to the rumour mill. Might even be flight sim 2020 rather than 2024
Funny how they will sell these games in a traditional manor on other consoles rather than supporting gamepass. That would mean Sony were right longer term as selling games rather than subscription is more sustainable. I would not be surprised if gamepass increased twice next year eventually hitting something like £30-40 a month. They have to claw back all that buying somehow!
Re: The Plucky Squire Launches on PS5 This September, Day One on PS Plus Extra
Great, was looking forward to this one. I'm guessing this will be time limited much like sifu, stray etc so will play this in amongst astro
Re: Antstream Lets You Stream 1000s of Retro Games, and It's Coming to PS5, PS4
That is one of the worst websites I've seen. Three way scrolling to see games list? Amazingly bad colour schemes? That basically puts me off straight away!
Re: GTA 6 Won't Be on Subs Like PS Plus at Launch Because Take-Two Makes 'Rational' Decisions
TL;DR: Sony/Nintendo were right, Microsoft is wrong with gamepass. Gamepass isn't sustainable longer term with all the buy outs + the impending increases in subscription charges. I suspect it will get to the point where it's £40 monthly eventually which will block the majority of users and will kill the Xbox eventually. Talking a couple of years a way however
Re: Poll: Have You Pre-Ordered an Astro Bot PS5 DualSense Controller?
Was on the.fence, looked about 4pm and there was some stock left on Smyth's UK, sat on the fence and now all gone. Truth is, I would have only bought this to sell, which is unfair so I'm probably glad I gave it a miss
Re: Wreckfest 2 Plots a Crash Course with PS5
Can't wait! Simply one of the best racing engines out there in terms of physics. Will be a day 1 for me
Re: You Won't Be-leat What's Coming to Pinball FX on PS5, PS4 Next
@awp69 no worries, took me a min also! Could of also been leet but didn't make sense. No worries
Re: You Won't Be-leat What's Coming to Pinball FX on PS5, PS4 Next
@awp69 bleat is the word your after
Re: You Won't Be-leat What's Coming to Pinball FX on PS5, PS4 Next
This will drive you barrrrmy right?
Re: Astro Bot PS5 Controller Announced, Pre-Orders Start 9th August
@Anguspuss urrr astros playroom?
I'm up for this controller even if I just keep it boxed for resale. But I'll probably sell one of many existing to buy this one!
Re: Astro Bot Continues Its Quest for PS5 Game of the Year with Sublime Gameplay Demo
Yer I'm not watching these as I want to play the game and get surprised! Good for those on the fence but surely everyone will buy this right? It's great
Re: Sonic Team Boss Would Love to Explore a Sonic RPG Someday
Sonic, the new Micky mouse - he's appearing everywhere, all of the time, which makes him feel cheap and nasty. Shame, I do like a good sonic game, I just don't like the recent blatant cash grabs.
Re: Bandai Namco, Nike Tag-Team Special Tekken 8 Sneaker Designs
Sneaky, put tag team in the title and everyone gives a read. These shoes are hideous, but people will buy these for sure
Re: 6 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for July 2024 Leaked Early
Finally I get to see what the hype is about with no more heros! Nearly bought this the other day so excellent
Re: Huge Gran Turismo 7 Update Coming 25th July, Adds New Track and Cars
GT7, the gift that keeps on giving. If only other games followed this pattern of free content updates. Shame GT7 they added the currency buying, other than that it's great. Bamco - I'm looking at you, especially Tekken 8!
Re: PSN Online Services Restored Across the Board
@NEStalgia maybe! Or for missing out on their PSN voucher
Re: Some PSN Services Down and Offline, Sony Investigating
@ATaco I personally think it's been a hack, or a ransom demand of.some kind for ps stars. Also they keep saying no one will loose points etc but I suspect when it comes back they will blanket give everyone 500 points or something, and ask people to contact directly if they have bought a game in the time period rather than them automatically add. It's going to be a ***** show I recon!
Re: Mojang Is Building a Native PS5 Version of Minecraft, And It Needs Your Help
@Zeke68 thing is AI is the modern way to package in an easier sell for what has been being done for years. Data collection is in everything already, with varying degrees of intrusiveness. The "AI" banner means people are more likely to accept even more intrusive collection, because it means.... Well, AI right? Even though no one actually knows how to use AI some something useful yet and the capability isn't there other than it effectively being a modern web crawler with far more information than previously provided, there is very little intelligence in current AI.
So sure, sign away your data for a purpose unknown when it brings no real benefit to you the consumer! It's a backwards world where until recently companies used to pay huge amounts of money to get the type of data we now give away for free, because it comes under a "feature" banner.
Apple started this with iPods which have been collecting data since then, Google has been doing it since day1, and Amazon is scary what they collect. If you disagree with any of this, your online life will become quite limited and that's the issue - if you don't accept the terms, you don't get much functionality!
Re: Marvel vs Capcom Fighting Collection Takes PS4 for a Ride This Year
@shonenjump86 MvC on the PS1 was very disappointing, let alone pocket fighter which basically only offered the arcade game barely... The Saturn was the king of 2d at that time, only superseded by the Dreamcast really, which did have the capability to do decent 2d but wasn't exploited as much as everyone was going 3d at that point (except street fighter 3 3rd strike, street fighter alpha, capcom Vs snk 2 and the glorious Dreamcast arcade stick). MvC2 on the Dreamcast will be hard to beat, the single player mode getting all the characters will be hard to beat. Not sure that will come in this version as it's probably going to be the nanomi port rather than the DC one, but I can hope!
Re: Astro Bot Has Over 150 PlayStation Character Cameos
It's going to be a looooong few months until this game comes out! I can't wait, but it's going to be a looooong wait
Re: Dragon Ball: Sparking! Zero Will Add Over 20 DLC Characters Across Its Season Pass
I mean, I would prefer a season pass to have that number of characters for the same price Vs 4 characters for £32 like Tekken 8. But this could be quantity Vs quality, I guess time will tell.
Re: There's a Damn Good Reason to Buy Astro Bot Physically on PS5
Funny how the digital deluxe version doesn't really offer much extra, no early access or extra content for the game, just costumes etc. Depending on the price difference for physical, I might jump there as these posters might hold the value!
Re: Anticipated Horror Game Slitterhead Debuts First Gameplay at SGF
That looks very scary, I think I'll pass!
Re: PlayStation Fans Are Losing Their Heads Over an Iffy Portable PS4 Rumour
This has already been debunked on the rumour circuit about 19 days ago, therefore this is indeed fake news.
I'm quite happy with my steam deck, which can play PS4 like games. I would love a device that actually does play PS4 games, but isn't that called the switch2?
Re: PS Plus' Higher-Priced Extra, Premium Tiers Command 35% of Overall Subs
According to everything I read on the internet, ps plus subscribers hate the games ever month, ps plus extra all hate the games that are removed each month and everyone hates ps plus premium. But if you look at these stats, then it seems everyone is just trolling!
I got ps plus extra for a year for around £53 with 15% psn vouchers + 30odd percent off for returning subscriptions end of Jan (I was unsubscribed for a month). That's about the right price IMO and what it should be offered by standard.
Currently, they are doing 30% off ps premium, so £63 in total for a year of ps premium. I'm still not sure I would use the extra stuff on premium, I have a steam deck which emulates mostly better than the ps5 currently, I would probably only use if for wipeout which used to be extra but is now premium (along with a few others)
Re: PS5 Players Are Buying Fewer New Games, But Spending More Than Ever Overall
@Ben7982 exactly this. Games were £40 for a good while for PS4 and now they are £70 or more for special editions. So it's economies of scale - lower the price and you sell more as demand will be higher. With digital I'm surprised they don't lower the price even more as they could sell millions more without much overhead.
Also ps plus extra and premium come into this too - why buy games when you get them for free on subscription?
These numbers shows the games market is increasing hugely. So for me that actually sounds like Sony's recent changes to ps plus + making games £70 has actually lowered the profit on the game's overall, where they could have made more with an ever expanding games market.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for June 2024 Announced
Good month for me. AEW I'm pleased is free otherwise I may have not have played it. Streets of rage 4 was on gamepass and I missed it, so I'm happy I can play now!
GTA could be interesting, if they don't remove it a month or so in much like other rockstar games.
Re: MultiVersus Is Now Available on PS5, PS4, Free Pack for PS Plus Members
@Gamer_X I would rather the base game be free than what's happened with Tekken8 since release - that was such a kick in the teeth and I've not played since (yet) as the game makes me feel sleezy
Re: Rumour: Full Astro Bot PS5 Game to Be Announced Very Soon
This report makes me happy. I enjoyed astro rescue and also sackboy. I love those kind of platformers and another one will be an instant purchase for me! Can't wait, let's hope it comes out soon
Re: Disney Speedstorm Waves the Chequered Flag at Kermit the Frog on PS5, PS4
Kermit looks.... Demented!
Re: Millennials Must Gather Caring Energy in Care Bears: To the Rescue on PS5
@Matroska at one point I thought we were gen z but I guess that got screwed up by the next gen. Thing is with millennials I always thought that was before snowflakes, but I guess snowflakes are a subset of millennials as well?
Oh well, I'm guessing I'm old enough to start to not care about things and this should be one of them
Re: Millennials Must Gather Caring Energy in Care Bears: To the Rescue on PS5
You mean to tell me that because I was born early 80s I'm a millennial? Did care bears get remade later on? Care bears was around until late 80s I thought then died a death - at least I thought!
Re: EA Sports College Football 25 Kicks Off on 19th July for PS5
Already has "collage football points" which means an in game currency which is a no from me. I'll wait for this to go free in 10-12 months.
Re: MultiVersus' Joker Looks Like a Hoot on PS5, PS4
@DennisReynolds oh damn your probably right. Been avoiding this game because I can't stand in game currencies or loot boxing. I guess I'll continue that!
Re: Jackbox Naughty Pack Is an M-Rated Entry in the Popular Party Game Series
Can't wait for this to come out! I simply can't contain myself! I'll wait in anticipation! Hopefully they don't prolong the release date!*
*And various other very mild innuendo comments
Re: TopSpin 2K25 (PS5) - A Killer Serve 13 Years in the Making
Hopefully a whole bunch of micro transactions and extra currency are not added like Tekken after reviews etc. I'm so burned by Tekken 8 I now think every game might do this!
Re: Sony Reportedly in Talks to Team Up for Paramount Bid
@Bingbongboyo Disney atm. So they have already been bought and merged!
Re: Rumour: 2K Gearing Up for Mafia Announcement
Mafia: now with loot boxes, 3 types of currency and a shop! They have got to fleece us somehow!