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Games shouldn't have more than one listing. One unified page and then you can select if you want the PS4 or PS5 version, standard or digital deluxe and so on.

Never heard of the game before today so of course I’m undignified and outraged. 😉

Oddly as it sounds, this new PS Plus Premium setup has kinda ruined sales for me
I see a game on sale but also go, it should end up at PS Plus Premium within a year I reckon, and it's not like my backlog is empty at the moment.
FFXVI and GoW:Ragnarok will be day one buys from me, but beyond that there's little coming within the next year that I feel I must get.

The Backbone is an excellent controller, easily the best mobile one if you ask me, so it's a great partnership by Sony.
Hopefully an Android version will come soon as well.

I didn't like that they wanted full price for the Royal upgrade. Sure, it added more content but not allowing an upgrade path for early supporters was greedy.

But this is just blatant greed. The game runs 100% fine on PS5 already, it should be a patch, or at max a paid upgrade for say 10 euros.

They are clearly doing it for financial reasons. But there’s gone a lot of work into it. GTA Trilogy was cash grab. Many remasters are. But doesn’t feel like one.

Still, I think it’s too pricey to get at launch. I’ll wait. But for those who haven’t played it at all, are all in for a treat.

Great news. I was sort of 80% done with Syndicate by the time I upgraded to my PS5, and endured playing through the glitches, but skipped all DLC since it just was a bit too much

@IonMagi Unity worked mostly fine for me but Syndicate is near unplayable with the light bug. And probably why it’s not on the list.

I know it's unlikely but would love a smaller Assassin's Creed game. Focus has been for years "oh this is 3x larger than the last game" instead of actually creating a great game. And back to 17th-18th century Europe please.

If they were going to remake them as lazily as the Trilogy Collection, then good riddance.

Ironically, they are the two Rockstar games I haven't finished so I was looking forward to potential remasters/remakes, but not lazy cash grabs.

@SolaceCreed I've never had any problems with them charging for the upgrade. And even if they were compensated by Sony for including the game in the Collection, it's undoubtedly more profitable for them to sell a copy, and it's fine if they chose to offer those customers more value.

Look, the axe I had to grind was rather calling it a free game to start with. But you aren't alone in calling the PS Plus games free, In fact, I find most game news sites (this one included) make the same mistake and call it things like "the free games this month". I'm sorry if I was unclear or anything, was just trying to get facts right.

@SolaceCreed Goodwill? It’s marketing. Sony is paying the publisher and developer to include the game in the collection to make buying the PS5 more lucrative, especially for newcomers to the PlayStation. Obviously they aren’t paying full price for each copy or anything like that, but there are some form of compensation.

There’s a reason that Sony never uses the word free in their PS Plus marketing, as it would false marketing. They use words like “included”, add to your collection and so on.

@SolaceCreed and you don’t understand the basics of economy.

@SolaceCreed think you need to re-read what I said regarding Capcom charging you for an upgrade. I’m fine with that. But stop saying the game was free. You’ve paid for PS Plus I assume and thus you’ve paid for the game. Not directly and it is as you say offered at no additional cost. But it’s not free.

@SolaceCreed Any game you get through your PS Plus subscription isn't free. I'm not arguing that this upgrade should be free, but don't sheep yourself into saying the games that are offered through PS Plus is free.

GamePass wouldn't work for many other companies than Microsoft, because it is not profitable at current pricing (as Microsoft themselves admit). So the industry can do some parts, but not fully emulate what they are doing and remain profitable, simple as that.

Given both games age, I doubt a PS4 version would be any inferior to a PS5.

The problem for Sony is that Microsoft has the deep pockets to let Game Pass be a cash drain. It's not profitable at all for them at current levels (they admit as much themselves), but that's fine. They are playing the long game and this is the only way they can challenge Sony at the moment.

I personally think Sony's counter is good. You get lots of value with it, while it being cheaper than XGP. The main concern I do have, is the lack of a proper xCloud alternative. With XGP you can play the games in Windows, Mac and mobile, besides the console. With PS Plus it's a mixed bag. Some games are on the old PS Now, but PS Now doesn't work Macs or mobile. The only way to achieve that is to use Remote Play, while overall working fine a broader PS Now alternative would be nice.

I'd be happier if they fixed Syndicate, right now it's not really playable.

The franchise menu is already in Valhalla and Odyssey and is mostly a marketing thing for the other games in the series.

PS Home was ahead of its time in my opinion. They could have built that further to have player homes with trophy cabinet, game demos and trailers, social hubs like integration with Discord and so on.

@Royalblues thought for a sec it was Black Myth: Wukong you meant, but don’t think it has sci-fi elements.

Square Enix corp seems grossly mismanaged at the moment, which is quite terrifying for the the future of the JRPG franchises under SE.
Hopefully this sale is the make SE more sizable for Sony to buy them.

I'm a vanilla guy. Can occasionally dabble with chocolate, but I'd rather have chocolate sauce with the vanilla ice cream.

The building parts has always been one of the main reasons I’ve never gotten very interested in Fortnite.

So can totally understand why they’d have it as permanent addition.

I think the update to the PS5 today with the PS Plus moving up to a fixed position in the system sends a signal changes are coming. I’m sure there’s stuff in this update that set up further for the new coming services.

@Ooccoo_Jr it does have full cross-play these days at least. It’s still fun a few games with friends.

I love how binary some are. Just because it’s a DLC, it’s overpriced at €40? I’m not saying it isn’t but until we’ve actually seen it, it’s impossible to answer how much value it actually adds.
I mean, Fate of Atlantis for Odyssey added three completely new zones and 15-20 hours of gameplay and it was €25.
So just saying, if it’s 30-40 hours of content, then €40 isn’t that much compared to many other games.

If the streaming bit in Premium means you can stream any PS3/4/5 game that you own, it could be quite an interesting offer. Sort of a cloud PS5 compared to just select titles as it is today.

And it needs to be on mobile.

@Danloaded you sure he’s still there? They’ve twice deleted my inactive character.

I do hope they build on this a bit further and add text and voice support down the road. While nice, this is really the bare minimum of an integration.

I was kinda hoping they’d continue the Final Fantasy entries and re-add FFXIII 1-3 to the service. It’s kinda strange that they are the only mainline entries not playable on a PS4/5 at this moment.

@Flaming_Kaiser guess I needed to add /s

Guess this plays well into Sony not really wanting cross-play, all games will be platform exclusive to either platform.

Really hope they continue this Final Fantasy rollout with FFXIII next month. As far as I can tell the only mainline entry not playable on PS4/5 atm.

I bought the PSVR on launch day but sold it when I bought my PS5. I think there’s a tonne of potential in VR but the first gen PSVR just was a bit too early, tech wasn’t good enough. Pixilated graphics and unreliable head tracking made the experience not good enough.
But I have high hopes for PSVR2 though.

There’s just not a chance that GamePass is profitable at current pricing. If Xbox has been a standalone company they wouldn’t have been able survive like this.

You have to remember that no publisher would add their games to GamePass if it didn’t promise more revenue than selling them the normal way.

But this all breaks badly with the promise of AAA 1st party games on day one. It’s been years in development and it’s supposed to earn the same by sharing a small piece of that $15 fee per month?

The goal today is all about getting sub numbers high enough and then start increasing prices over time, lex Netflix. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’ll cost twice what it costs today in a couple of years.

Lets hope that Discord integration is as they say, early 2022, and not just 2022.

@nessisonett yeah. I want to play these games in one go and then move on. I have very little interest in coming back later. The positive side of this is that the game cheaper to buy if you wait

Asssassin's Creed Syndicate needs a patch more than Origins, as is one of the gamest that has big compatibility issues on the PS5, with lighting issues all over the place.

Still puzzles me that PS Now is still not available on mobile or macOS, both would seem like sensible additions and platforms that competing services are on. Makes it still feel like Sony aren't wholeheartedly invested in this.

That said, for all the hoopla that XGP gets, I think there's a better catalogue of games on PS Now these days. Just not as vast.

@wiiware well that’s the beauty of individualism. I personally never ever used folders on my PS4, and of all the things on this list probably what I want the least. Not do I really want VRR that much either, despite a fancy TV. But I’d love the Discord integration making keeping in touch with gaming friends so much easier.

While I do understand that some of you want folders and themes, I honestly couldn't care less about either of those. That teased Discord integration sounds very interesting though. Would be so nice to be able to still chat with my friend on Discord while on the PS5, also making cross-play easier.

I thought it was great. Yeah, the first half was a bit slow and GTA V certainly got too much time, but after that it certainly picked up.
I had hoped for some more info on FFXVI and maybe at least a release year, but alas not this time.
I’m also happy they spent their time away from Horizon, Kena and the other titles coming soon, as we’ve seen quite a lot of them already.

I’d really love for Konami to challenge EA, but as much as I admitting it, without full PL license I’m gonna stick with FIFA.

Shame they didn't go all the way to XIII, as it's the only one you can't play already on PS4/5.

All I need is it for fully utilise that SSD, because those loading times are a proper drag. It's actually a deterrent for me from playing it.

Please add this fix to Spider-Man. I played the base game when it was available on PS Now and then bought the collection for PS5, but can’t transfer my 98% completed PS4 save since I don’t own a copy of it.

Here’s my suggestion: Bundle PS Plus and PS Now into one joint service. Call it PS Multiply or whatever.
Make the new service available on more platforms, like mobile.
Also make any game you’ve bought on PS Store, accessible from the service, not just the games on PS Now (sort of like a hosted version of Remote Play).

While I do watch Crunchyroll, I don’t think you should mix media with a gaming service like PS Plus.

Sonys pricing strategy is really the biggest gripe I have with them at the moment. In Sweden, instead of the 16%ish increase that was made in Euro and Dollars, in SEK we got almost 30% increase for Sonys 1st party titles.

I just find it so strange they still don’t have macOS client for PS Now. Should be a big market with MacBook owners considering they aren’t always that powerful and not a lot of games for macOS. Soon even xCloud will support macOS through the browser.

The strangest part is maybe that GaiKai that they bought to build PS Now were primarily focused on the Mac market, so the tech has always been there.