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@pyrrhic_victory There is still a big unknown in the form of Nintendo's next system. What Xbox games will Switch 2 get and will they release same day as PS5? Are there Xbox games in the Switch 2 reveal? Does the Switch 2 reveal set the stage for Microsoft putting PS5 and Switch 2 logos at the end of trailers at Xbox events?

Switch 2 may end up explaining a lot about the PS5 timings.

I want Astro Bot to win but I think Erdtree will because after 2016 FromSoftware soulsborne has never lost.

I used to think PS6 would have discs but all that talk about a handheld that natively plays PS5 games complicates things. Naturally discs that size wouldn't fit in a handheld so backwards compatibility on the handheld would have to be limited to digital only.

Which gives me the impression that there'd either be a PSP to Vita style transition (PS6 carts exist but there's no disc drive) or the console is fully digital only.

@QBGaming12 April - July would be my guess for Yotei, Hiroki Totoki's comments earlier this year deconfirms January - March (Sony's current fiscal year is April 1st 2024 - March 31st 2025) meanwhile August - December would be too close to GTA6.

I could see a Horizon game release in Fall 2025 though as that franchise always seems to have the worst possible release timing.

My guess is TLoU 3 and something related to Valve. The impression I get is that people are expecting the next Naughty Dog game to be something not TLoU so to see TLoU 3 announced first with a release year of like 2027/2028 would fit.

As for Valve, the past few years of the Game Awards had Steam Deck giveaways but this time it's PS5 Pro so maybe Valve has something new to announce.

Odd that they chose to do this trailer before the Game Awards rather than after.

@Dodoo Astro Bot didn't even make the top 10, it was sadly knocked out in round 1.

I think one will be April/May and the other be June/July taking into consideration that they're both releasing in 2025 and GTA6 is Fall 2025.

Considering no Showcase/SoP happened to celebrate PS 30th anniversary, while there's still a chance of a SoP being announced for Tuesday it seems more likely at this point that Sony saved their announcements for the Game Awards instead.

I'm thinking it may be PS event rather than the Game Awards. For the PS 25th anniversary celebrations, Sony ended the week of celebrations by announcing a State of Play for the following week (December 10th 2019) so they may do something similar here.

It would be really nice if people moving away from Twitter resulted in stuff like Playstation Home and Miiverse making a comeback.

I wonder if Sony would've let The Last Hope Dead Zone Survival (TLoU clone that released on Switch in 2023) or War Gods Zeus of Child (GoW clone that released on Xbox in 2022) live if they came to PS5.

I don't see the point in saying there's no red lines but then not bring the heavy hitters (Halo, Gears, Forza) soon after. So if FH5 wasn't going to appear, it would probably be because FH6 is coming soon and they want that to be the debut Forza game for PS5.

As for announcing FH5, I'd guess either the Game Awards or the Switch 2 reveal. Indiana Jones for PS5 made a big splash at Gamescom Opening Night Live and the Game Awards has way more viewers than that event. Alternatively, they may want to show they're properly supporting Switch 2 and the Switch 2 reveal would have way more viewers than the Game Awards.

They released 3 Horizon games on PC this year (Forbidden West in March, Zero Dawn Remastered in October, Lego in November) so wouldn't you expect numbers to be low?

Figured it would be helpful to note that Amazon UK's £399 deal for the PS5 disc console has a delivery date of January 3rd 2025.

@somnambulance Regarding Switch 2, Nintendo said for the fiscal year, not the calendar year so if they announced Switch 2 on March 31st 2025 it would still fit in with what was said back in May.

@somnambulance Back in August, it was revealed the release date was being announced this year.

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2024/08/metal-gear-solid-delta-snake-eaters-ps5-release-date-will-reportedly-break-cover-later-this-year

I think MGS Delta is the big sign of something happening. It feels unlikely that Geoff would allow a Konami trailer at the Game Awards and even more unlikely that Nintendo announces Switch 2 this year which leaves these options if the game is still getting a release date announced this year:

• Random trailer out of nowhere
• Sony has an event which includes the game

The latter sounds more likely.

If real, this has me concerned about PS6's ability to play physical media. The clearest messaging regarding being able to have games run on both PS6 and the handheld would be to completely get rid of the disc drive.

Horizon Warriors perhaps like how they worked with Nintendo for Hyrule Warriors and Fire Emblem Warriors. Considering how often the Horizon franchise keeps appearing like from VR to Lego to whatever Horizon Online ends up being, I could see Sony wanting even more Horizon spinoffs.

I get the feeling that the PC version and more info about Season 2 of the TV show will be at the Game Awards.

@ear_wig The way I see it is:

• Another Code, Emio, Nintendo World Championships, Endless Ocean - Those types of games are very unlikely to be nominated
• Mario vs. DK, LM2 HD - Action/Adventure category is already very packed
• TTYD, Brothership - RPG category is already very packed

Which left Princess Peach Showtime, Echoes of Wisdom and Super Mario Party Jamboree which all got nominations. DLC being eligible was just an excuse to include Erdtree so Splatoon 3 Side Order was unlikely to be nominated.

I really liked Switch 2024 but I'm not surprised that Nintendo's presence at the Game Awards was limited.

I think Erdtree will win and the final World Premiere is Bloodborne related (e.g. sequel, remaster/remake, movie).

@Nem It's a similar situation to Tomb Raider. Legend got added to the PS2 classics lineup but it would make a lot of sense for the next release after the 4-6 remasters to be 7-9 remasters (Legend, Anniversary, Underworld) especially as Xbox 360 got exclusive DLC for Underworld.

That's a shame, all but confirms that Shadow of the Erdtree will win. Astro Bot winning GotY was the best chance of knocking some sense into Sony.

I think the biggest question will be how much PS5 Pro affects performance of games on the base PS5.

I think the other 3 nominees for GotY will be Dragon's Dogma 2, Balatro and Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth but I do wonder if Geoff will allow TLoU 2 Remastered to be eligible.

@DonJorginho I'm not optimistic about pricing in the slightest. I feel Switch 2 is going to be $500 and then if Nintendo who are known for releasing cost affordable hardware are releasing hardware that expensive then Sony for sure are going to make PS6 pricing be more expensive than PS5 Pro.

Not necessarily that day, but I feel that there's an unannounced event later this year that will reveal the MGS Delta release date.

The timing makes me think an event later this year is going to announce a huge Xbox exclusive going multiplatform. It's likely too late in the year for Nintendo to announce Switch 2 so that leaves the Game Awards or Sony choosing to do an event to celebrate PS 30th anniversary.

Sony deleted and reuploaded the video but without the price cut.

I don't see the game appearing at a Geoff event so I get the feeling that there's an unannounced platform specific event (e.g. State of Play) that'll reveal the release date.

9/10, only got the heaviest PS wrong.

@dskatter There's a gigantic goldmine of pre-PS4 games that can't be played on PS5 waiting to be tapped into for remasters/remakes which would provide much more value to the PS community than PS4 remasters.

This is very much to be expected considering it's not a free upgrade and the remaster forces PSN requirement. Lego Horizon Adventures will be the most interesting data about Sony's PC strategy considering it's also releasing on Switch.

@twitchtvpat I did say near future, it might be that 2027/2028 are big years for single player games but 2025/2026 are more live service focused so a showcase would give the impression that Sony's focus is still live service.

This gives me the impression that there's still a load of live service games releasing in the near future. Remember Playstation Showcase 2023 when the PS Studios presence was:

• Spider-Man 2 (traditional single player)
• Fairgame$ (live service multiplayer)
• Helldivers 2 (live service multiplayer)
• Concord (live service multiplayer)
• Destiny 2 Final Shape (live service multiplayer)
• Marathon (live service multiplayer)

If the near future of PS Studios is still very live service heavy, doing a showcase would end up being a repeat of the 2023 showcase which would make people more negative about the future of Playstation than if Sony were silent.

I could only see it being playable on Xbox in the form of the next Xbox being a PC and hence can access Steam. Sony's only porting to Xbox when they're forced to (i.e. MLB forcing MLB The Show, Bungie acquisition forcing Bungie games).

I could see a situation where the lineup could make it look like things are slowing down but they're not really. For example if for the 1st half of 2025, you had:

• February - Fallout 3 (PS4/PS5/Switch)
• March - Oblivion (PS4/PS5/Switch)
• April - Indiana Jones (PS5)
• May - DOOM The Dark Ages (PS5)
• June - Flight Sim 2024 (PS5)

Fallout 3 and Oblivion are PS3 games, Indiana Jones and DOOM The Dark Ages were announced for PS5 this year which would leave Flight Sim 2024 as the only Xbox exclusive to be announced for release in that time window.

But I absolutely don't believe that the backlash from the Xbox community over the Indiana Jones PS5 reveal would have any effect.

@Medic_alert That exactly why I don't think Sony will go digital only. The competition mechanism for digital only would probably harm Sony a lot like if the EU forced Sony to add Game Pass to PS.

@Medic_alert Epic Games has been pushing very aggressively for closed platforms to open up and they've managed to do it in some cases (e.g. Apple devices in the EU, Android devices worldwide).

I feel that if Sony went fully digital only, Epic Games would try to force Sony to allow Epic Games Store on Playstation.

The rate at which Sony's porting over their games to PC is so extremely fast that I could see them running out of legacy games they want to port over around 2026/2027. I guess 2026 is when "day 1 on PC" grows to even include their big 1st party single player games.

Maybe they're going to announce a playable demo/beta? World's beta was announced in October for taking place in December.

Sony was used to reveal the past few RE games via SoP/Showcase so perhaps a SoP/Showcase sometime in December - March. They may do something special in December for the Playstation 30th anniversary or there may be an event in the usual January - March slot.

The wording on the PS Direct page for Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered is odd. It's suggesting that you can use the PS5 physical version to play on PC.

Guess it must be time for Microsoft to do something really stupid in the near future to distract people from Sony doing this.

@mountain_spider I think Ghost will be April - July. Won't be January - March because of Hiroki Totoki's comments back in February meanwhile Fall/Holiday would mean competing with GTA6 which sounds unwise.

Sonic X Shadow Generations got a trailer earlier today via the Sonic Central stream, would be surprising if there was another one in the State of Play.

Maybe the list isn't completely accurate for stuff that's appearing?

20 sounds more than normal so maybe there's a PSVR2 montage of like 5-6 games?

Aren't the numbers partially skewed because of a lack of new releases and those that did release were right at the end of month (e.g. Star Wars Outlaws)?

The best chance physical had of getting a big boost in August was if Concord ended up being a Helldivers 2 scale hit.