@wiiware ''The game is pretty "heavy" on pc, I usually get 60 fps if I lowered the detail on some other games (I've got core i7 cpu and nvidia 1660 ti)''
I still can't believe people still use these comparisons like this. It would make sense if consoles were just low-mid tier PC-s, but generation after generation it was stated (and proven with games) many times that this is far from the truth.
Considering we allready have much more demanding games (and better looking games) than Odyssey on PS4 alone, i don't see any reason why they couldn't upgrade those minimal things PS4 was missing on PS5 while keeping the 60 FPS (with a LOT of wiggle room still left).
Also another thing to keep in mind is, Ubisoft is well-known by now for really bad PC optimization efforts.
And before someone states that consoles run Odyssey on low PC settings(Source; Digital Foundry):
PS4
AA- Adaptive 30
Shadows- Medium
Env.Detal- High
Env.Textures- Medium
Terrain- High
Clutter- Medium
DOF- Medium/High
Vollumentric Clouds- Medium
Water- High
Character Textures- High
SSR-Medium
PS4 Pro
AA- Adaptive 30
Shadows- High to Ultra
Env.Detal- High
Env.Textures- Medium
Terrain- High
Clutter- Ultra
DOF- High to Ultra
Vollumentric Clouds- High to Ultra
Water- High to Ultra
Character Textures- High
SSR-High
Granted the base models, really have some FPS issues in Greater Athens and when going too far with Ikaros.
Things like better resolution, AA, draw distances, textures (overall graphical fidelity for that matter), NPC count etc... all of that can be improved by a patch-upgrade.
That is what makes a true Backwards-compatibility, otherwise people might aswell wait for PS4 emulators (that are allready in the works).
Origins and ESPECIALLY Odyssey, have really mediocre writing in most of the main story and by the gods, there is soo much filler content they must have broken a record.
Gameplay is a hit and miss. Granted the series needed a gameplay change, but i doubt anyone asked to have gameplay mechanics and powers of a (literal) god instead of an Assassin.
That aside, both games offer great deal of exploration, even if it does end up a bit stale after a while and if you are looking for a sandbox games that will kill a LOT of your time, these two games will be right up your alley (so long as you keep you expectations in check as far as main/side quests go).
Also, don't expect much Assassins Creed story-related stuff in Odyssey until much...much later, and even that is quite small content that makes a person ask ''Why is it even called Assassins Creed Odyssey?''
@nessisonett I mean look at the creations and games created in Dreams (that pretty much are mods). If anything those show the possibilities of creating mods on consoles themselves without jeopardising their precious security (that is still quite weak).
Actually, now i have some crazy thoughts about Dualsense ''Create'' button ..
@nessisonett (not speaking directly to you)I wish people invested this much energy for pleading Sony to bring modding support (and yes, it is absolutely doable) to their consoles instead of pleading to shoot themselves and their first-party quality in the foot.
Modding is still that only thing that makes PC hold advantage over consoles in mutliplats.
@jdv95
''it's fake guys.
even the ps5 is listed on amazon as "platform windows".
bury the pitchforks.''
It's still in the air.
A year ago it would be unfathomable for Sony first-party exclusives to come to PC, but after HZD announcement everything is possible.
And to those that keep on saying ''It doesn't matter, it's just one game or those are ''old'' exclusives'', it absolutely matters.Sure it won't be an end for Playstation platform (least not in forseable future) but it will most definitely negatively impact PS5 HW/SW sales that is without mentioning how much it could impact first party games quality (the lesser the need to sell HW/Services connected to the HW the lesser the need to develop same quality games).
It's only a shame i already have both of those, like i'm sure many others do aswell.
Idk, i just think it would have been better if they added the equvalent quantity of money to the peoples PSN wallet and that way they can keep everyone happy.
@rjejr Maybe because people still believe that Horizon:Zero Dawn and possibly Dreams coming to PC are isolated cases, meaning no more first-party IP-s won't come to PC (plus there is a good reasoning behind HZD being ported to PC because of Decima engine).
This is why a lot of people, including myself, changed their minds from ''purchasing PS5 day one'' to ''maybe i will buy it after 2-3 years or simply upgrade my PC''.
There is still no 100% certainty at this point and that is why you will see people making mock-ups like this one with ''Only on Playstation'' brand.
Anyone remember The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind? Zero waypoints, no modern-fast travel, you had to actually look at the many objects and terrain to know where your quest objectives are.
Miss hardcore games like that.
Also, compared to modern-open-world games, Morrowind is relatively small, but the mentioned things makes it seem much much bigger and denser.
Shame that Rockstar doesn't seem to be too interested in improving and fixing RDO in last few months, the PVP is pretty much dead nowdays, and with autoaiming being the core gameplay mechanic, i can see why.
@GADG3Tx87 Yes, bringing those games to PS Now would still give more people a chance to play those exclusive games, without devaluing the Playstation brand/platform.
@Montys The only thing you have shown, is how hypocritical you trully are.
And one statement from an actuall developer is absolutely more tangible than some random comment from Youtube or Twitter from a person that is well known for trolling and spreading missinformation.
@Matroska ''To be fair, even now you can play 99% of PS4 games on PC with better graphics, framerate and the ability to mod them. People still buy consoles, though.''
Poople buy those consoles, because;
1)They are casual gamers
2)The graphicall differences are quite minimal (aside from 60 FPS)
3)People don't have interest in modding
4)It's an cheaper alternative
5)Most importantly, because of the very same exclusives
I absolutely agree, removing exclusives from the equation will definately hurt the brand in the long run and there are genuine concerns about games quality (since there is less need to sell those consoles and and as such there is less need to aim for higher quality).
Don't agree with TLOU being on first place. Don't get me wrong i still have ptsd from my first basement run, but games like Bloodborne had those in abundance.
@Montys ''obviously but surely a news site even biased towards PlayStation could report actual facts instead of rumours and speculation from twitter of all places lol''
And yet, you like to discuss rumours and speculation that come from that very same twitter, like you did with your first comment of this article...
@Nakatomi_Uk Tell you the truth this might be the first generation of Playstation i actually skip. I don't know, we shall see how it plays out.I will keep an eye on Sony/Playstation for the next 3 years and see what they have planned and what they have to offer.
Until then i will enjoy this last year with great games, like Ghost Of Tsushima and TLOU2. It will be a proper farewell to console gaming for me (whether or not it is temporary will depend on mentioned things).
@BAMozzy Honestly, if you told me that 10-13 years ago i would totally agree with you.
But looking back at the past 7 years, especially the first 4 years the graphical gap between all platforms (be it Xbox,Playstation or PC) has really gotten smaller in comparison to previous gens (besides 60 fps that will likely change next gen) to the point that for a lot of mutliplat games, people noticed little to no differences (yes even watching the uncompressed video comparisons).
That gap will even get smaller next gen.But there is one undeniable advantage PC gaming has for me, it's modding and THAT will never be the main thing on consoles. Granted most of the modding is revolved around Bugthesda games, still there is fair share of them for other multiplats to aknowledge them.
And one undeniable advantage console gaming (or more specifically Playstation has) has is exclusives, and if the rumors are true that all of those will come to PC eventually, i changed my mind from buying the PS5 day one to maybe in 2-3 years to most likely will not be buying it and instead invest those 400$-500$ into my upgrading my PC.
My only regret is ''losing'' my Playstation library, cuz i doubt my PS4 Pro will last forever...
You gotta give it to the man, he has a certain charisma.
I mean name me one person in the world, that has made so many empty promises and underdelivered in so many things product related, and yet, most of the fanbase kisses the ground upon which that person walks?
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Re: Rumour: Assassin's Creed PS5 Reveal Is Just Around the Corner
@wiiware Let's be real here, none of the things i mentioned (even the 60 FPS) will be upgraded for PS5.
In theory everything is possible, but unfortunately reality is a bitch (pardon my phrasing).
Re: Rumour: Assassin's Creed PS5 Reveal Is Just Around the Corner
@wiiware ''The game is pretty "heavy" on pc, I usually get 60 fps if I lowered the detail on some other games (I've got core i7 cpu and nvidia 1660 ti)''
I still can't believe people still use these comparisons like this. It would make sense if consoles were just low-mid tier PC-s, but generation after generation it was stated (and proven with games) many times that this is far from the truth.
Considering we allready have much more demanding games (and better looking games) than Odyssey on PS4 alone, i don't see any reason why they couldn't upgrade those minimal things PS4 was missing on PS5 while keeping the 60 FPS (with a LOT of wiggle room still left).
Also another thing to keep in mind is, Ubisoft is well-known by now for really bad PC optimization efforts.
And before someone states that consoles run Odyssey on low PC settings(Source; Digital Foundry):
PS4
AA- Adaptive 30
Shadows- Medium
Env.Detal- High
Env.Textures- Medium
Terrain- High
Clutter- Medium
DOF- Medium/High
Vollumentric Clouds- Medium
Water- High
Character Textures- High
SSR-Medium
PS4 Pro
AA- Adaptive 30
Shadows- High to Ultra
Env.Detal- High
Env.Textures- Medium
Terrain- High
Clutter- Ultra
DOF- High to Ultra
Vollumentric Clouds- High to Ultra
Water- High to Ultra
Character Textures- High
SSR-High
Granted the base models, really have some FPS issues in Greater Athens and when going too far with Ikaros.
Re: Rumour: Assassin's Creed PS5 Reveal Is Just Around the Corner
@wiiware I meant why only stop at FPS upgrade?
Things like better resolution, AA, draw distances, textures (overall graphical fidelity for that matter), NPC count etc... all of that can be improved by a patch-upgrade.
That is what makes a true Backwards-compatibility, otherwise people might aswell wait for PS4 emulators (that are allready in the works).
Re: Rumour: Assassin's Creed PS5 Reveal Is Just Around the Corner
@Grimwood ''60fps is already pathetic and useless''
Interesting, in what way is it pathetic an useless?
Re: Rumour: Assassin's Creed PS5 Reveal Is Just Around the Corner
@Dodoo Honestly, you haven't missed much.
Origins and ESPECIALLY Odyssey, have really mediocre writing in most of the main story and by the gods, there is soo much filler content they must have broken a record.
Gameplay is a hit and miss. Granted the series needed a gameplay change, but i doubt anyone asked to have gameplay mechanics and powers of a (literal) god instead of an Assassin.
That aside, both games offer great deal of exploration, even if it does end up a bit stale after a while and if you are looking for a sandbox games that will kill a LOT of your time, these two games will be right up your alley (so long as you keep you expectations in check as far as main/side quests go).
Also, don't expect much Assassins Creed story-related stuff in Odyssey until much...much later, and even that is quite small content that makes a person ask ''Why is it even called Assassins Creed Odyssey?''
Re: Rumour: Assassin's Creed PS5 Reveal Is Just Around the Corner
@wiiware Why stop at 60 FPS? They can patch much more than that.
The question is, will they?
Re: PS4 Firmware Update 7.50 Is Available to Download Now
''SHE CAN'T TAKE ANY MOAR STABILITY CAP'N!''
Re: Site News: Would You Kindly Complete Our Reader Survey?
''* Free Jaffa Cake may be subject to your imagination.''

Re: Rumour: PS5 Will Have Shorter Supply Than PS4 at Launch, Delay Unlikely with High Price
Anything beyond 400$-450$ would be too much.
Re: Sony Confirms Days Gone, The Last of Us 2, Gran Turismo Sport PC Listings Are Fake
@Octane Unlikely, but it is still a nice fantasy.
Re: Sony Confirms Days Gone, The Last of Us 2, Gran Turismo Sport PC Listings Are Fake
@nessisonett I mean look at the creations and games created in Dreams (that pretty much are mods). If anything those show the possibilities of creating mods on consoles themselves without jeopardising their precious security (that is still quite weak).
Actually, now i have some crazy thoughts about Dualsense ''Create'' button ..

Re: Sony Confirms Days Gone, The Last of Us 2, Gran Turismo Sport PC Listings Are Fake
@nessisonett ''Unless Sony wants to release their dev tools to the public, I just don’t see it happening.''
A year ago we couldn't see Sony bringing not even ONE of their first-party games to PC, and yet here we are.
Re: Sony Confirms Days Gone, The Last of Us 2, Gran Turismo Sport PC Listings Are Fake
@thefirst I keep mine under the bed these days.
Re: Sony Confirms Days Gone, The Last of Us 2, Gran Turismo Sport PC Listings Are Fake
@nessisonett (not speaking directly to you)I wish people invested this much energy for pleading Sony to bring modding support (and yes, it is absolutely doable) to their consoles instead of pleading to shoot themselves and their first-party quality in the foot.
Modding is still that only thing that makes PC hold advantage over consoles in mutliplats.
Re: Sony Confirms Days Gone, The Last of Us 2, Gran Turismo Sport PC Listings Are Fake
@David187
''I think this site should try & get facts more from Sony before hitting the send button.''
Might aswell be talking to a brick wall. This aint the first time we have seen articles like this.
Re: Days Gone, The Last of Us 2, Gran Turismo Sport Listed for PC Release
@jdv95
''it's fake guys.
even the ps5 is listed on amazon as "platform windows".
bury the pitchforks.''
It's still in the air.
A year ago it would be unfathomable for Sony first-party exclusives to come to PC, but after HZD announcement everything is possible.
And to those that keep on saying ''It doesn't matter, it's just one game or those are ''old'' exclusives'', it absolutely matters.Sure it won't be an end for Playstation platform (least not in forseable future) but it will most definitely negatively impact PS5 HW/SW sales that is without mentioning how much it could impact first party games quality (the lesser the need to sell HW/Services connected to the HW the lesser the need to develop same quality games).
Re: Days Gone, The Last of Us 2, Gran Turismo Sport Listed for PC Release
@Fight_Teza_Fight
''Supposedly it’s a pro Xbox fan group that’s doing this.''
Source?
Putting games like Super Mario Odyssey is a dead giveaway.
Re: PlayStation Store April Sale Expands with New Selection of Great Discounts
Yeaaa... better wait for the Golden Week sale / next flash sale.
Re: Sony Makes Uncharted: Nathan Drake Collection and Journey Available for Free on PS4
Kudos to Sony!
It's only a shame i already have both of those, like i'm sure many others do aswell.
Idk, i just think it would have been better if they added the equvalent quantity of money to the peoples PSN wallet and that way they can keep everyone happy.
Re: PS5 Game Case Cardboard Mock-Ups Are Surprisingly Stylish
@rjejr Maybe because people still believe that Horizon:Zero Dawn and possibly Dreams coming to PC are isolated cases, meaning no more first-party IP-s won't come to PC (plus there is a good reasoning behind HZD being ported to PC because of Decima engine).
This is why a lot of people, including myself, changed their minds from ''purchasing PS5 day one'' to ''maybe i will buy it after 2-3 years or simply upgrade my PC''.
There is still no 100% certainty at this point and that is why you will see people making mock-ups like this one with ''Only on Playstation'' brand.
Re: PS5 Devkit Meets DualSense Controller in Another Great Mock-Up
@kyleforrester87
V for Victory, Boss!
Re: PS4 Exclusive Ghost of Tsushima Won't Have Waypoints Telling You Where to Go
@Jaz007 I've heard about the game name here and there but never managed to check it out, until you recommended it for me.
I like what i've seen thus far from the trailers and to my own surprise this game went waaay under my radar.
Will definately consider purchasing it later this year, since i still have quite a backlog.
Thank you for recommending it!
Re: PS4 Exclusive Ghost of Tsushima Won't Have Waypoints Telling You Where to Go
Anyone remember The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind? Zero waypoints, no modern-fast travel, you had to actually look at the many objects and terrain to know where your quest objectives are.
Miss hardcore games like that.
Also, compared to modern-open-world games, Morrowind is relatively small, but the mentioned things makes it seem much much bigger and denser.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 319
Bit of Divinity 2, RDO and God of War.
Shame that Rockstar doesn't seem to be too interested in improving and fixing RDO in last few months, the PVP is pretty much dead nowdays, and with autoaiming being the core gameplay mechanic, i can see why.
Re: Bethesda's Pete Hines 'Very Impressed' After DualSense Hands On
Shame we can't say the same thing about recent Bugthesda games and bussiness practices, eh Hines?
Re: No Man's Sky Gets Mechs in Latest Free Update, Available Now on PS4
Still don't know if i should give the game a chance now.
Re: Soapbox: Why You Must Play Uncharted 4 While It's Free on PS Plus
First time hearing about these criticisms honestly.
Re: PS5 Controller Revealed, Named DualSense with Create Button and Built-in Microphone
@Tats ''Kinda ugly but as long as it feels good to hold.''

Re: Feature: Why PS5 Has Got Us So Hyped
@Ralizah Unless we can expect 60fps and enchanced graphics for those games (and hundreds of other PS4 games) i'm not really hyped too much about B/C.
It's definately better than nothing...
Re: Soapbox: I Wish I Was Growing Up with Games Now
Gonna leave this here
Re: PS Now Receives Another Excellent PS4 Exclusive This Month
@GADG3Tx87 Yes, bringing those games to PS Now would still give more people a chance to play those exclusive games, without devaluing the Playstation brand/platform.
Much better alternative, than a full on PC port.
Re: PS5 Praise from Crytek Developer Retracted After Calling It the Better Next-Gen Console
@Montys NO ONE has 100% credibility, that is the whole point.
But he (the developer) most certainly has more credibility, than the person you mentioned and that is why people debunked that rumor.
Re: PS5 Praise from Crytek Developer Retracted After Calling It the Better Next-Gen Console
@Montys The only thing you have shown, is how hypocritical you trully are.
And one statement from an actuall developer is absolutely more tangible than some random comment from Youtube or Twitter from a person that is well known for trolling and spreading missinformation.
Re: Rumour: PS Now Receives Another Excellent PS4 Exclusive This Month
@Matroska ''To be fair, even now you can play 99% of PS4 games on PC with better graphics, framerate and the ability to mod them. People still buy consoles, though.''
Poople buy those consoles, because;
1)They are casual gamers
2)The graphicall differences are quite minimal (aside from 60 FPS)
3)People don't have interest in modding
4)It's an cheaper alternative
5)Most importantly, because of the very same exclusives
I absolutely agree, removing exclusives from the equation will definately hurt the brand in the long run and there are genuine concerns about games quality (since there is less need to sell those consoles and and as such there is less need to aim for higher quality).
Re: Guide: Best PS4 Horror Games
Don't agree with TLOU being on first place. Don't get me wrong i still have ptsd from my first basement run, but games like Bloodborne had those in abundance.
Re: PS5 Praise from Crytek Developer Retracted After Calling It the Better Next-Gen Console
@Montys
''obviously but surely a news site even biased towards PlayStation could report actual facts instead of rumours and speculation from twitter of all places lol''
And yet, you like to discuss rumours and speculation that come from that very same twitter, like you did with your first comment of this article...
Re: PS5 Praise from Crytek Developer Retracted After Calling It the Better Next-Gen Console
@Stocksy You mean after about 200,000 years people still like to brag about things they buy and own?
Crazy i know...
Re: PS5 Is the Better Next-Gen Console, According to Crytek Developer
@Montys That was allready debunked, the whole ''rumour'' was made up to spread FUD among people.
Re: The Last of Us 2's Story Will Make Us Question Everything, Says Troy Baker
@Nyne11Tyme You never know, they might actually pull an Uncharted 2 with this one.
Re: Xbox Boss on PS5: We Have a Plan That Can Win
@JJ2 I admit even i was sceptical about GT running 120 fps, but if anyone can pull it off it's definately Sony.
Re: PS5 Is Attracting an Obscene Amount of FUD Right Now
It will only get worse in next 6-7 months. And you know what is the saddest part of all of this FUD?
It's working.
Re: Xbox Boss on PS5: We Have a Plan That Can Win
@TheBuzz April 1st was 3 days ago dude.
Re: Xbox Boss on PS5: We Have a Plan That Can Win
@Nakatomi_Uk Tell you the truth this might be the first generation of Playstation i actually skip. I don't know, we shall see how it plays out.I will keep an eye on Sony/Playstation for the next 3 years and see what they have planned and what they have to offer.
Until then i will enjoy this last year with great games, like Ghost Of Tsushima and TLOU2. It will be a proper farewell to console gaming for me (whether or not it is temporary will depend on mentioned things).
Re: Xbox Boss on PS5: We Have a Plan That Can Win
@BAMozzy Honestly, if you told me that 10-13 years ago i would totally agree with you.
But looking back at the past 7 years, especially the first 4 years the graphical gap between all platforms (be it Xbox,Playstation or PC) has really gotten smaller in comparison to previous gens (besides 60 fps that will likely change next gen) to the point that for a lot of mutliplat games, people noticed little to no differences (yes even watching the uncompressed video comparisons).
That gap will even get smaller next gen.But there is one undeniable advantage PC gaming has for me, it's modding and THAT will never be the main thing on consoles. Granted most of the modding is revolved around Bugthesda games, still there is fair share of them for other multiplats to aknowledge them.
And one undeniable advantage console gaming (or more specifically Playstation has) has is exclusives, and if the rumors are true that all of those will come to PC eventually, i changed my mind from buying the PS5 day one to maybe in 2-3 years to most likely will not be buying it and instead invest those 400$-500$ into my upgrading my PC.
My only regret is ''losing'' my Playstation library, cuz i doubt my PS4 Pro will last forever...
Re: New The Last of Us 2 Gameplay Clips Leak Online Following Delay
Must...resist...watching!
Re: Xbox Boss on PS5: We Have a Plan That Can Win
You gotta give it to the man, he has a certain charisma.
I mean name me one person in the world, that has made so many empty promises and underdelivered in so many things product related, and yet, most of the fanbase kisses the ground upon which that person walks?
Re: Poll: Are You Happy With Your PS Plus Games for April 2020?
@Ba11y We might actually get a short Easter sale in few days or a flash sale. Doubt they will only have ''Spring Sale'' for this month.
Re: Gallery: New The Last of Us 2 Screenshots Look Truly Stunning
@BearsEatBeets Yup.
Re: Gallery: New The Last of Us 2 Screenshots Look Truly Stunning
@BearsEatBeets My boy Joel has lost some serious weight :_(
Re: Gallery: New The Last of Us 2 Screenshots Look Truly Stunning
@Grimwood Indeed.
