PS5 Praise from Crytek Developer Retracted After Calling It the Better Next-Gen Console

Bold indeed. Once graphics can simulate reality to a tee, the constant cold war between consoles just has to move somewhere else - games' size, length, shading, load times, you name it. But graphics? Ho ho ho, no sir. Games' fun factor is going to take the spotlight once again.
I think whichever console has always been a runner-up in terms of raw power is going to be on equal grounds with the buff boys in a few years. Once that happens, well...

Have you heard the rumours about the ps5 having overheating problems and sony having to redisgn the console to something like xbox series x?

Lool it will be pretty funny if ps5 is a stronger machine despite the TF difference 😂. I can already heard a lot of people from the green side panicking because it's crysis devs, master of graphics (on pc), that says it, not some random developers. Next-gen will be interesting to say the least 😁

@Montys The rumor from windows central? The best place to look for ps5 news 😂

@AlexSora89 In the end it will always be games that win the console war, nintendo switch is kicking xbox around in sales number despite about 50% weaker than the original xbox one, the reason xbox 360 sells good is because halo and gears of war brand is big back in the days.

Doesn't matter if you have the bigger teraflops or the most powerful (see current X box), if you dont have the games, nobody will care bar the hardcore who have a weird fetish for needing to have the most powerful thing available.

Its good that a lot of Devs have come out in favour for the PS5, hopefully that will translate to some mind blowing Sony Exclusives

@Quintumply I like this wisdom.

I am still so getting PS5!

The Biggest advantage of PS4 compare to Xbox One in last gen was about programming side, not Power and i m pretty sure Sony will keep it on PS5 too...
after all, Microsoft programming approach for consoles is compatible to PCs, specially in DirectX, but Sony use special coding just for Consoles!

@Montys
It's exactly that. a rumour. the person who brought it up was very quick to delete his comments and privatise his Twitter account.

after many claims that "all the developers are saying it" anyone has yet to find any evidence of that.

my take. It's just some desperate xbots spreading rumours knowing that once again power will win them nothing.

@gmxs
Which in the end won't matter anyway. If history has taught us anything it's that most of the time developers use the weaker console as the baseline to develop for and port to the other. So once again they'll be nothing that takes advantage of all that power.

Meanwhile, PlayStation will do what they've always done. Focus on delivering the best exclusives, while big Phil will be on stage every year going "MAH POWAH" ...with no games.

Come on Pushsquare, let's tranlate the translation here. He never told ps5 is a stronger/better machine. He said it's the best machine TO WORK WITH.
We all gonna get ps5 but we all know the truth. Let's not try to find needles in a haystack to justify our purchase..
We are getting it becouse we adore Sony and their games, not becouse it's "stronger and better in programming"!

@Montys Those rumours were based on one guy making a comment in a youtube video, claiming to have insider knowledge through personal contact with developers. YouTuber Mystic looked into that guy and he has a history of bad mouthing playstation, so its nothing new. Commentators on the internet have just decided to run with it as fact.

Fact is no one really knows ither than those coding for the machine and Sony themselves. We wont know until the system launches. But Sony won't release a defective machine onto the market, and given Mark Cerny's tear down looked in detail at residual heat distribution, id suggest Sony have it covered.

Id say dont believe anything until the console is out there and people are actually play testing it.

The only reason these rumours have spread is because Sony havent had a reveal event yet. Until they do, people will continue to plant these seeds to undermine the system. Particularly those with a vested interest in other consoles

Its tiring. A Persian Twitter user 🙄 sounds just as bad as that ex killzone2 dev who never even saw the dev kits claiming the difference is 'staggering' resulting in a windows central drum roll article.
I ve just had a look now at Era reaction after Cerny talked and there r so many idiots over there as well.

Listen to what Cerny said. It's not hard.
Then wait for a proper reveal.

Edit
About the RAM, I feel more and more ps5 as a better settup with OS in fast ram

Better or not it depend on the games i can buy from PS5.
I expect at least 12 Cartoonish Cute PS5 games i can buy.

@Anti-Matter
Does the art style matter as long as it's good? I'm 32 years old and played Spyro again with it's remake. Does it make the game better or worse? does it make me any less of a gamer because some may see it's audience as children?

absolutely not. A game is meant to be fun. If it achieves that then it did what it's supposed to do.

Not every game needs to be super realistic and bloody to be good.

@Quintumply exactly, I've never owned a console that I didn't have fun with

This is good news for the developers but doesn't necessarily make a difference to us, some of the best games or versions of games I've played have come about by having to work around console hardware limitations.

Games are going to look and run great on both platforms and it will be down to exclusives to really make the difference

The main takeaway for me was Pudding.

@LN78 Only Michaelangelo wasn’t wise hahaha

@GADG3Tx87 Sure enough! I’m 36 and loved to replay Spyro trilogy. 🥰 And that doesn’t mean I couldn’t enjoy playing Death Stranding too.

Both will be excellent machines. However, Microsoft do not wow me. At the end of the day it's all about games and that superfast SSD in the PS5 will be a game changer. Microsoft have no good gamés it's a fact whether you like it or not. PS5 will be day one purchase for me.

@GADG3Tx87 Don't even bother

@Rob_230 so we should just take the rumours said by this one guy as bs?
Just like this article and any other that's reports speculation and rumours as facts....

@Montys the rumor that started by a random YouTube comment😂

All this type of stuff means nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Takeaway: Everyone please play Hunt: Showdown.

@Montys Yes. I clearly said in my message we shouldnt put too much weight behind any rumours until they are confirmed. Particularly from a disreputable source with a history of trolling playstation. At least this article is based on comments from an actual developer

@kohiba99

This is what was said...

‘The developers are saying PlayStation 5 is the easiest console they have ever coded on to reach its peak performance. Software-wise, coding for PS5 is extremely simple and has so many abilities that make the [developers] so free. In total, I can say PS5 is a better console.’

@kohiba99

This is what he said about Xbox...

'As for the Xbox Series X, according to Salehi, while it is possible to reach peak performance, it can only be done under the most ideal circumstances.

‘… If all parts can work efficiently in Xbox Series X alongside its GPU, it can hit that number in practice, which doesn’t seem so possible. Beside all these, there’s a software part too.’

He even added that developing games for the Xbox Series X might be somewhat difficult because of its software and the fact that it uses two different kinds of RAM that differ in bandwidth.

Since developers are likely to want to use the higher bandwidth, Salehi believes that could cause issues.'

Its been revealed he is a huge Sony playstation fanboy. Someone went through his twitter and did some nice detective work. So what he said is complete bs. Looking through ps goggles.

@AlexSora89 Its been revealed he is a huge Sony playstation fanboy. Someone went through his twitter and did some nice detective work. So what he said is complete bs. Looking through ps goggles.

@Montys That was allready debunked, the whole ''rumour'' was made up to spread FUD among people.

@wiiware Its been revealed from great detective work on neogaf this guy is a playstation/sony fanboy. Someone went through his twitter.

The N64 was more powerful than the PS1, the GC and Xbox were more powerful than the PS2. Yet in all those cases, the other consoles were outsold many times over by the PS consoles. Right now the seriously inferior hardware of the Switch is taking a massive dump on the XB1 and will soon overtake it despite releasing years later.

12>9 facts. Lots of people saw the difference between 900p and 1080p but now they can't. Strange that.

SLAP!!!

Take that Spencer!!!

@JimmyP
Corr, must hurt all the flag waving MS fans when something like this gets splashed all over the internet, effectively turning heads and changing minds
Especially if it's as you say untrue.
Got that link for the evidence you mentioned, love to have a read of it!

@DominatorV93 at this point in time unless sony has officially said then everything is just rumours and speculation

@Rob_230 but yet here we all are putting weight behind these rumours lol

@Sauce01 Yeah and news articles are running wild with it lol
I suppose any news is better than no news right?

Lol even if Xbox has 100 teraflop i will still buy PS5 first. Being said that , having a both very close in power even closer than PS4 to Xbox One, make it even easier choices to stick with PS ecosystem.

@Montys
Sometimes it’s best to engage your social media filter first.

@Matroska
The Switch has already outsold the Xbox One by roughly 5.5 million units.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles

I think when people look at consoles they expect bigger to always do better. These two consoles aren't PCs that we can install anything we want to on. They are supposed to be built/coded for a specific purpose. If anything these two system can be compared to smartphones. In that regard Apple has less specs in their devices than android (memory, cpu, etc.) however their code is exceptional and the hardware is purpose built that any specification shortfall is made up for.

I heard quite a nice analogy for the 2 systems earlier, if both were sports car engines.

If Xbox Series X is a big V8 engine,
then PS5 is a V6 with a Turbo Charger attached.

Vrrrroooooooooooooom!!!!!

X360 was easier to develop for and you see how that turned out for them. Now they still lost to Sony because of the heavy hitters but they didn't lose by much. Here's the important take away though; if developers don't like working on your machine then all the power you hold over the competition doesn't matter. They will develop for the easier one, then port it, and you will lose out on all the extra oomph they put into the original development project. Not only that, but with XSX having zero exclusives, they have nothing to bounce back with like the PS3 had. They've shown their hand far too quickly and I get that PS fans are impatient right now, but slow and steady wins the race. With Phil constantly talking about the Series X it just screams of lacking confidence. "Let me talk about it as much as I can before the competition arrives and makes my points moot."

So far all Phil has to "win" is yet another subscription model. Slightly more power (like this gen, whether at the beginning or now, means nothing), no exclusives, anti-consumer model, 3rd party box, no same Xbox fan would even touch. How you can still be interested in buying a Series X is insane at this point.

I've had both sony and xbox over the years and currently and would say I like xbox the most, but reality of all these stats on performance is where ever the lowest spec lies then the other system will odds on only be pushed to that level bar games that designed for that system only.

I think where you go is mainly based on where you come from, if you got extensive xbox account filled with games and games on disc, it makes sense to stick with it with the BC, where if you the other side of fence with all your PS4 gear you might as well stay on that side of the fence. then dabble over onto the other side if you swing both ways when the prices drop

@Dijon makes sense. why throw away your account and current titles you already own. when you can take them with you.

they both simialr spec systems and when comes to 3rd party games they probs going to be built for both systems at once so advantages will be minimal of the extra hard ware, and when making exlusives even with better hardware each will work towards strengths of the machines.

ive got ps4 pro and xbox one x and graphics are already amazing, if you getting twice the power of them then even if ones 20% faster the other in departments its going to make zero difference to your expeirence no matter which your preference is.

@wotsinaname Mark Cerny already confirmed PS5 can hit full clock speeds on both the CPU and GPU simultaneously, it drops clocks when code isn't demanding.
BTW the way PS5 is designed it has more CPU resources available for devs, basically a full CPU Core's worth, even with slightly lower clocks than XSX devs have more available to them.
The RAM setup is much better in PS5 too, along with the SSD being an order of magnitude faster and far more easily accessible.

RAM alone will make it hard for developers to take advantage of XSX's bigger GPU, PS5's GPU will also be easier to take advantage of owing to it's faster speed and boosted components that don't scale when increasing CUs count.

The difference in TFlops is at most 10 to 12, but not in demanding scenes.
PS5 will also be able to use less RAM for OS because of the speed of it's SSD, it can shrink quickly when games don't demand it and give far more of the 16GBs all running at full speed when games need it.

It's very likely PS5 will have no issues running next gen games at full 4K 60FPS, in demanding games, but on rare occasions that may require a drop in resolution at most you'll see something like 1800p on PS5 to 2160p on XSX and then features like Radeon Image Sharpening will make the difference so that it's not even noticeable.
PS5 will also be able to render higher res textures quicker than Series X.

Your example makes no sense given the actual full picture of what both consoles have in the way of tech next gen.

Yowza....considering Crytek have always pushed hardware limits as one of their personal metrics for game development is really saying something

@wotsinaname
In my personal experience :
12 eggsbox > 6 eggsbox.

@Montys those rumors were said by someone well known for trashing Sony's line of consoles, though

He's now come out to retract his statements. The interview has seemingly been pulled.

"Ali Salehi doesn't confirm the content of the interview anymore due to personal reasons."

Crytek engineer retracts claim that PS5 is easier to program for than Xbox Series X

https://flip.it/tAW80b

PlayStation opted for efficiency and changing game design so developers don't have to work harder on optimization, duplication or make areas to help load the game. Everyone seems to be sleeping on this and instead are focusing on a metric that doesn't even define performance.

Bigger and better worlds, easier time developing, instantaneous asset streaming— does that not mean anything?

This is how this started?! Ludicrous.

"Again, these opinions are coming from archived quotes translated by a random Twitter user reading an interview which no longer exists, so we can't confirm their validity. It's not entirely clear why things got so messy, so we've reached out to Crytek for clarification. We'll update this story if we hear back."

@Quintumply

"is now effectively null and void."

Indeed.

it seems Crytech forced him to pull his interview on the Internet but if anyone curious to see his actual interview (in Persion), this is its link:
https://bit.ly/2RgYcUI

also all of his Translated version is on this NeoGaf page:
https://bit.ly/3bPJcoG

Hmmm...I'm always down for a nice cover-up.

@kohiba99 That's not how you use the phrase "needle in a haystack". I think what you're looking for is "grasping at straws".

Somebody's in trouuuuble

@wiiware sorry bud it's more than 50% but that's irrelevant. There are few exclusives on Xbox one simply because Microsoft knew they lost 2 years in and there was no coming back until the next gen.

So they bought a bunch of studios, bought some Indies to be exclusive, put out a couple exclusives themselves and shifted all other development to series x.

Let me let you in on a little secret. It doesn't matter how many consoles are sold. What matters is game sales, services, accessories etc.

The switch sells allot of first party titles... But not allot of 3rd party ones. It has 1 service... That they gave away for free for a year on twitch. Microsoft makes more money than Nintendo in the gaming division and they keep 3rd parties much happier.

This is ridiculous. Every day it changes. Dev says this, dev says that.

I wouldn't put stock into any of it. Wait till they are released.

Statement retracted?

OK, how much did Phil Spencer pay you? c'mon.

@Montys yes and it’s a bunch of nonsense. It reads like an advertisement for Xbox. The reveal for the box wasn’t revealed until E3 last time either. Besides, every single rumor about the PS5 has been debunked besides the TFs so far.

The only thing that seems worrying about the Ps5 so far is the 8.5GB prop. SSD/Controller. Cerny stated that because of that extreme speed the manage to achieve this will open up possibilities for developers that we (not his words) we would not ever think about.

BUT

The expansion is a of the shelve m.2 ssd so games supporting those extra possibilities can only be installed on the internal ssd.

Other than that i think people are overseeing that Haptic feedback for the controller way to much. If they get that right that will make a big deal maker.

@GADG3Tx87
I don't like OMG Ultra HD Realistic graphics.
Like i said from my post, i'm expecting at least 12 Cartoonish Cute PS5 games i can buy. I don't know what games will be but as long it's Cartoon or Kiddie games for kids and interesting for me, i will buy them.
I just only play with games for Kids and Teenagers (rated Everyone, Everyone 10+, a few of Teen, CERO A, CERO B, PEGI 3, PEGI 7, PEGI 12).

@GADG3Tx87

"OK, how much did Phil Spencer pay you? c'mon."

I think that the suggestion that he broke a NDA rule is the most likely for such a unusual and noticeable move, they would have no choice if this is the case.

Hahaha it’s too late now... the truth is out there on the Internet for ever... we ALL know he praised the PS5 and stated it was the better console...

@wotsinaname Two different things, the resolution is a visible result of the power of the device, teraflops measure the potential but not necessarily the outcome. It's like comparing the size of two people's muscles (cause) versus the heaviest weights they can lift (effect). If it the size of the muscles totally determined the outcome, we could just measure that and not bother having them lift a weight. The muscles do obviously impact the weight they can lift, it's just not a guarantee and it's not all there is to it.

Note that despite the XB1X having more power than the Pro, they're both the same res. Same with the PS5 and XBSX.

Digital Trends posed themselves the question "So, more TFLOPs means faster devices and better graphics?" and answered like this:

@wiiware I agree, I loved Gears Of War, I played Gears 5 on Game Pass and was so so so glad I never actually bought the game! It is a chore to play through. And buggy..
I’ll stick to my game disk with Gears 4 and all the previous Gears games. It’s one of the very few reasons I still have my Xbox One S, even though it’s put away these days.
But yes the Switch and PS4 prove its all about those games, and sadly Microsoft hasn’t a clue about that anymore it seems...

@Montys Apparently you haven't seen that that has been thoroughly debunked by Kotaku and Cerny who said the dev kit arn't even using the variable frequencies yet.

@Montys this was fake the user that made these claims has had past tweets of false claims against Sony saying how the PS4 was hard to develop etc. So basically the guy was full of sh*t plus he said ps5 was hard to develop for but everyone who actually has developed for the console has said ps5 is easier

Who gives a sh!t about what console other people are playing on!! Play what you want, buy whatever you want!! Both are massive upgrades so regardless which one you get I'm sure they will be great. I personally am interested to see what microsoft can do this gen as I use my xbox to watch tv and am very disappointed by how things went this gen after how much I loved the 360. Ps5 on the other hand is a day 1 for me (hopefully) and fingers crossed God of war sequel and my massive backlog of ps4 games as I've only had ps4 a year. I really cant understand all the point scoring!! Gaming is surely the winner

when the PS5 comes out I think a lot of doubters are going to feel very silly.
the Xbox console on the market now has 2 TF more than the Pro yet not one game on it comes close to Playstation Exclusives & the MP are hardly different. so why are people trying to play this silly game now? both have over 10 TF each if the PS4Pro can make games as it has with 4.2 I'm not worried one bit.

@Matroska
More to the point though. It was 720p vs 1080p, then 'true' 4k vs 'faux' 4k

But but
What is it about now?
It's only about marketing. (Unless people believe ps5 cant do better than xb1 x)

@d0x360 How many console sold is definitely matter, how can you sells service, accessories, and games if the console didn't sells. Also the reason call of duty, fifa, red dead 2, and others big 3rd party games are marketed by sony is because the ps4 sells way better than xbox one, big 3rd party devs like to side with the winner, which make the console sells more.

Also just buying developers is not enough, that devs has to make great games too, we all remember rare before xbox and after bought by xbox, or bungie (the first time 1st party developers leaves console maker and going 3rd party).

@S1ayeR74 Let's hope microsoft can make better games next-gen since it means we have 2 great next-gen console

@Quintumply I agree... Yet everybody seems so very keen to spoil everybody's fun...

I'm good with what I have. Buy at your own risk kids. You may regret it if the gaming landscape changes rather suddenly...

It's always what you least expect.

He most likely broke his NDA by revealing too much about the consoles, and was forced to retract his statement or face legal consequences. But I have seen more than one developer that is less than enthusiastic about the Series X’s split bandwidth for its memory.

@JimmyP I wouldn’t doubt he is pro-Sony the way he chose some of his wording in the interview (if the translation is 100% accurate which it sometimes is not), but this is not a situation of an opinion from a random fanboy on the internet. This guy IS an actual rendering engineer for Crytek; he likely knows what he is talking about, but all will be revealed in the coming months.

@gingerfrog I'm not on social media because of these types of reasons but it doesn't stop other media outlets reporting the same bs
But will stop using this site all it does is flame the toxic fanbois on who has the better console yawnn

@Montys

This site is biased towards Playstation.

Do you even know where you are or what this site is called?

Tbh I'm just really excited to be able to play Minecraft with raytracing lol.

Wars over

Bomb dropped

Can’t undo it

Amen! Can i have a hallelujah?!

@SirRealDeal obviously but surely a news site even biased towards PlayStation could report actual facts instead of rumours and speculation from twitter of all places lol

It’s 2020 and we are still playing my plastic box is “better than yours”?

Really?!?!?

Ok cool

@Stocksy yes and your plastic box is rubbish company to mine!

@Stocksy You mean after about 200,000 years people still like to brag about things they buy and own?

Crazy i know...

@Montys
''obviously but surely a news site even biased towards PlayStation could report actual facts instead of rumours and speculation from twitter of all places lol''

And yet, you like to discuss rumours and speculation that come from that very same twitter, like you did with your first comment of this article...

If you keep a Wood Frog farm in you living room, you might have to relocate them, as the PS5 emanates a signal that makes Wood Frogs explode. Fact.

Source: woodfrogs4eva.net/factsheet/uhohspaghettios

@DominatorV93 yes to show how stupid it all is look how quick you all debunk my rumour but accepted this one
And also I'm not the author

@Montys The only thing you have shown, is how hypocritical you trully are.

And one statement from an actuall developer is absolutely more tangible than some random comment from Youtube or Twitter from a person that is well known for trolling and spreading missinformation.

@DominatorV93 so there isn't a chance this Decv could be bs ? Did anyone even bother to check the credibility of this ?
And yes I'm being hypocritical that the point

@Montys NO ONE has 100% credibility, that is the whole point.

But he (the developer) most certainly has more credibility, than the person you mentioned and that is why people debunked that rumor.

Sounds like MS sent the big boys round.

Commenting after the update:

Am I the only one blaming all this on Sony? As much as this comment does seem to be VERY positive for Sony - If it is true, Sony stands to gain nothing yet from this being revealed at this time. If I was Sony and my system was practically more advanced and better to program on than the competition... I would want that information as well as direct comparisons such as how fast it suspends multiple games... saved until the last moment. Then reveal that my system is $100 cheaper and let the good times roll.

I think this is Sony's doing to hush this up.

@Montys Yes, they are rumors. The way the PS5 is designed in regards to thermals I highly doubt it is true. This is also something they would have known very early on in development, not something they would need to address months away from a launch

@beavis64 PS4 is more powerful than the Xbox 1. PS4 Pro has slightly less power than the 1X however the 1X never really did anything with that extra power. Most games look the same across both consoles. I would imagine the 1X suffered from a lack of sales more than anything. A promising console that was over priced and nobody wanted.

To me the PS5 will probably be great, but the only way I'm getting it, is if they make Gravity Rush 3

@gmxs who all these devs?

Also most exclusives tend to be first party which means owned by Sony or Sony has some type of interest in the company. However most likely will see these exclusives down the road on PC

So expect the same companys that been doing exclusives since ps3 to still do them for ps5 lol

@GADG3Tx87 you do know Phil turned Xbox department around after the last guy messed everything up with the OG Xbox launch right?

Also what's all these exclusives you speak of that is coming to ps5 at launch????

Oh and some of the upcoming exclusives are slated for PC so they technically arnt exclusives. Just check steam and the Epic Store lol

@UBloMe Actually some games played smoother on the One X since it can hit higher FPS. However depending on some of the companies nthey chooses to just lower everything to make sure it plays the same on PS4 as it would on Xbox. However there a good hand I find plays and looks better on the Xbox x then the PS4 pro

@PupTwilight
Actually Don Matrrick was a far better leader than Phil Spencer. Phil has created a platform which now has zero exclusives and is a laughing stock in the gaming world. I used to be a massive Xbox fan but not anymore.

Besides we all know that PlayStation will continue to have true exclusives while Xbox won't which as far as consoles go is the bread and butter of their survival. It's why even that so called power narrative couldn't turn things around for Xbox. Games are key and Xbox has become a laughing stock. Sad to see from a former fan.

And the reason I say that Don was a better leader, is because he actually bothered to secure exclusive games. Phil hasn't secured one in his entire 6.5 year run.
And all the while he continues to have them go to other platforms that will continue to be the case.

@beavis64

Im not? If anything i praise the PS5 controller for just having haptic feedback alone already.

I wouldn't put stock in comments or rumors from any dev at this point. It's waaay too early. The SDK's and documentation for these system isn't even finished yet and an SDK revision can be a game changer all by itself.