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@ZeD Sony built which generation entirely on that model? Explain please.

@CrispyMango92 this, cause that's the only thing they've done so far with the Bethesda deal.

The goal is to hit it. We can add stability later. Ask Sony how to patch in all that yummy stability.

To be fair... not watching either.

If you play with me. Loud only.

@Total_Weirdo no. They aren't like that at all. Waiting for game pass....smh. y'all don't love gaming.

@djlard what d4 is and what this is trying to be, isn't the same. Always online may not be what people think d4 should use, but its far more egregious here.

So, we traded the ability to play with other people for always online? Is it too late to reverse course?

First strike for me is the game is free on game pass, they better hope that Hanke
Gamble becomes the back bone of their player base.

I wish this game had a.i. team mates. Finding people to play with is a struggle lol

Developers...we play games during the summer. Keep them coming. Best release month of June in gaming history.

Not a bad price. Of course I wish It was cheaper. But still. Affordable considering how much they've could have charged...

@Ken_Kaniff speak for yourself. Color me intrigued. And go packers!

We won't truly know the major impact until at least 3-5 years. I'm not happy about this. But imma gamer before in a complainer, so I'll focus on the positive right now.

Sucks for gaming and gamers. But the fact that many gamers are ok with this is baffling. They clearly don't understand economics.

Payday 3 might be my goty after d4. But remnant 2 I'm very interested in. This might be the best gaming year on a long time. That's great. And we're not having to wait until holiday season for great releases.

@Casco avengers wasn't a terrible game either though. Just wanted to be something it didn't have to be. Developers gotta start aiming for fun and less about following trends.

Didn't know this game existed. Then saw footage last week. Got kind of interested. Then saw it was free on game pass, lost all interest. Unless it was a game I was dying to play, I'm not supporting a game that's releasing on game pass.

If you haven't been playing diablo and poe for years, please don't tell people what's going to happen because new players are getting the wrong information and then getting upset. The new character you create for season will transfer at seasons end to the eternal realm which is the same realm you're playing right now.

@Northern_munkey gotta listen to what the devs said and that's what I washed to hear. Their ideas behind seasons is to add to the game but wow people to not feel like they have to play the game everyday for years or miss out on something. They are respecting our time to play other games and or do other things.

@BAMozzy I have played the original. You not being interested in something where you saw no actual game play is completely different from...nvm. I think you're doing that thing where your mind is set in stone on what ever point you're making. And for the record.... there's not many heist games on the market.

@BAMozzy @BAMozzy to be fair, this is a sequel, we know what to expect. It's hard to get excited about the others as I have not seen any game play.

So the game is no longer isometric? Hmmmm. Still kinda excited to play. Didn't know it was going to pc. Did the first one ever go to any other platform?

@Powerplay94 sold usually, in the past with similar announcements haven't included game pass.

@Americansamurai1 they already announced monster hunter go. So they have live service covered.

I'm sorry but you can't make millions, let alone billions in profit and then hide behind inflation. And this goes for every company on the globe.

Bring on monster hunter world 2 already. Sheesh!

Hmmmm. Interesting. Priced right and fun.... could be day 1 for me

@Olmaz why? Surely you didn't think was a lot soccer?

Shots fired

@Triumph741 this goes further than how you're attempting to down play it. Don't be dense for the sake of proving a point.

Rdr 1 on rdr 2 engine would be the greatest game to ever game. But keep hunting like rdr 1. Rdr 2 was to technical and took the fun out.

Maybe I'm missing it, when you create a wrestler, you can customize the move set too right?

Stays true to no mercy....hmmm. maybe on deep sale I check this out.

I'm good, thanks

I always thought Sony owned pixels junk stuff. Interesting.

Can't say no because it further proves Sony point. Can't say yes cause then that's a lie. They are really planning on strong arming consumers into game pass because if they don't need game pass (MS) RELEASING multiplatform games that are already multiplat doesn't hurt them at all.

@BusyOlf funny thing is. It's was never an exclusive. Like Sony never made it exclusive. Konami in short didn't bother with making an xb360 version due to disc space.

On topic. If the controls are tight I'll be fine with it.

@Perryg92 so this isn't what I was thinking it was? Just updated rct classic or something? Talk about heart break.

I'm fine with exclusives, I'm not fine with taking things from gamers to strong arm them into your product.

@evan23 that's one of the worst consumer logic I've ever heard. Do because a company doesn't do what they need to do to get you to use the product you've already purchased. Then them preventing others from playing the game is some how good because it then forces you to use the product you've already bought?

I can't with the brains of gamers anymore

Best June in gaming history.

Both games were being made for ps, then because ms bought Bethesda, they aren't on playstation. Consolidation is bad for everybody except ms.

I'll at least give it a shot before I cry about it being live service. Now is it free 2 play, or buy? Sorry if I skipped that part.

They are choosing not to diminish the value of their product, nor the quality. And we as consumers can still choose to have standards that deem acceptable for a product.

For kinda excited, then saw image of soccer....ho hum...

@Green-Bandit Bethesda already said Stanfield and red fall were in development for playstation. So yeah. They were taken away.

I have it an 8 because the renown grind sucks. Other than that. Great game

@Green-Bandit competition is good consolidation is not. So I partially agree with you.

@theMEGAniggle the fact that you said Gaas/ live service games as though they are synonymous, but yet people aren't using them interchangeably. I think it would be better if people didn't speak in generalizations also. Instead of having a broad stroke opinion on live service or Gaas games (they aren't the same), just say why you don't like a game, being always online can't be a reason you don't like a game by itself. But being 30fps.... nvm.

@Jamesblob I don't even think we even have a clear and mutual understanding of what Gaas games are.