Videogame graphics have reached a point where I'm satisfied and am not bothered paying extra to make it slightly better.
That said, if Sony removes performance mode completely, and locks me into playing at 30 FPS on PS5 Amateur... I still won't go Professional, but will get very mad at them
For 799€ it should be literally creating free sequels on it's own 😃 I love how everybody is laser focused on 699$, when there is a small European market of 450 million getting scalped..
Completely agree with you, and I felt the same way when I read TheGamer article. Absolutely misses the point. Just having the pool of over 150 characters to use is amazing. But you don't get that pool unless you are willing to constantly reinvent yourself. And that is hard, that is risky. And I hope Sony goes back to being that company that is willing to take the "innovation" risk (as lately they have been playing it safe) imagining new IPs and ideas.
@Ilyn I completely agree with your theory. I would only add this is what MS has been doing for a while. Behind the scenes, MS has been lending resources through ATG among others, to release games on Xbox without delays. All that is to "hide" the fact platform is not No. 1. priority to smaller teams, and it is harder to develop for 2 SKUs (all of which are logic 101 conclusions being thrown money at to obscure).
Honestly, expected it to last for 6 months before being taken offline and adapted to F2P, as that was a semi-established model for live service game failures.. but this is something completely new. I hope they bury returned copies into desert and make a documentary out of it.
I really hope this game does well. I'll love it either way, as it's one of my favorite genres, but I so want it to sell well and warrant a sequel/continuation of this path for Sony.
@get2sammyb I feel it's mostly because this whole game looks like it was AI generated. Completely by the numbers, no creativity or originality at all. Whatever happens with Concord, I don't care. I'm waiting on Astro to release
Phil is like a nothing-burger restaurant. Everything this guy says is vague and undetermined. And even with that, he still sounds like defending a sinking ship here.
Hopefully not Starfield. IMHO that game has been a failure and people are just hanging onto the dream of "big Bethesda RPGs" still being alive. However, reality is the game is outdated, clunky, and boring. I'm genuinely worried releasing on PS5 this late after public opinion settled might result in a sales debacle (which is not what I want for MS multiplat releases, ideally they release all games to PS5).
In all honesty, Sony is handling this situation the way it should. Take control, clean up management, reassess, recover in time. It s*cks for employees let go, but at least there is a chance studio survives.
For those interested, demo is actually almost 100 GB. Quite a chunk. But I really want to try this, and assuming performance issues are not too great I'll be dumping the cash..
Version of this question has been asked multiple times since PS Plus re-imagining, and every time I have voted against adding first party games day one. Decent permanent discounts however, would be a great addition.
Finally Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII Reunion, I've been toying with buying it for a while between PS5 and Switch, but always aborting last minute expecting it to join a service.. and here we are
I can already see myself crying once I'm done with this game. That is what getting old feels like, you already mourn the good times before they even happen.
@get2sammyb bit of a late reply on my end, I'm Croatian. I'm sure they will update local shops soon, I just don't want to preorder before it's "clear".
Unfortunately, had previous experience where "fine print" was read and side-by-side offer listing was examined for some extra content, so I'm just going "better safe then sorry" route these days.
Edit: One of the popular shops actually updated their page to include preorder bonus today, so that settles that
@get2sammyb absolutely, can't wait for these to release. I'll be getting both day 1. Unfortunately, it seems like in my country they have not yet listed pre-order bonuses for Astro, so I'll be waiting on some transparency on that. Lego Horizon looks stunning, I knew it was gonna be a good fit, but not this much.
I have the upmost respect for this man, and can only hope he will one day make a channel to share his views/knowledge. I'm not sure it has been confirmed, but I believe his are the best hands PS6 can be in.
I might have slept through this, but when exactly was this moved from rumors to news (and something like Project Latitude confirmed)? Don't get me wrong, lovely to hear, just legitimizing it is sort of a big deal..
I don't believe this gets saved by a $40 price.. It really depends on what gets released, but trailer/presentation looked subpar and in comparison to Helldivers 2 of all things it looks significantly less fun. Admittedly, Helldivers also looked "meh" in trailers, however delivered big time on release.
It's really simple Sony, nobody needs Yet Another 5vs5 Shooter. Why can't they just drop this nonsense and go back to making games I genuinely enjoyed and paid for?
@PuppetMaster might be selfish, but I don't want Team Asobi to touch anything else except Astro. They need to ride this success and make Astro Sony's Mario, instantly recognizable.
However, Sony should look at this and give other first party studios "a licence to kill by fun".
As an occasional PC player, all I can say is this is just a bunch of bo**ocks by frustrated people needing excuse to rage and youtubers making up a story to spike their channel viewership. There is no problem!
Astro was by far the best part of the show. It's not even a competition. This is Sony's Mario Odyssey (in the world of platformers, there is not much higher praise I can give it).
Yeah, seems like I'll have to let my sub expire in September to resub during Black Friday.. because Sony is a bunch of loonies? I have enough owned backlog games to be able to hold for couple of months but making users lapse and wait for next sale oppo is lunacy, not to mention losing money.
Honestly, not sure why they bothered.. most of the people who wanted GTA5 already owned it. Seems like a last ditch effort on Rockstar end to try to upsell Online to few other folks before GTA6.
Out of the list, The Talos Principle is the only one I would care to finish before removal, if you have not done so yet.
Honestly, I don't understand the "generation never started" arguments.. over the last generation graphics have evolved far enough that further x2 jumps will never feel as groundbreaking as during PS1/2 era. If anything PC owners should be very familiar with this (basically last 4 years of GPUs are iterative and in total don't represent a shocking visual bump unless you are on DF team).
It might be time to stop thinking about traditional generations and start thinking about continuous experience provided by ongoing ecosystem.
And Sony probably doesn't mind as those 50% still using PS4 are:
still spending money on Sony games
still paying for PS Plus to play their live service game of choice
will eventually upgrade to PS5 Pro as they are not leaving their library behind
EDIT: I understand my first line might read a bit wrong. Comment is targeted at people who dispute reasoning to upgrade "as generation has never started" when in fact it has, I just think future generations will be shorter, less groundbreaking, and not mandatory upgrades. Waiting on a world-shattering release event that is not going to happen as the nature of the generation is changing.
Was always gonna be the case. Not sure what people expected, there is no way they could have been financially stable and release all Activision titles into GP day 1.
Not saying I told you so, but I told you so. MS is a cut throat company built on shady tactics and suspect competition elimination. It was only matter of time before they gut my favorite hobby, which they arguably already did as I blame aggressive early GP pricing pressure for the current state of console gaming. Nintendo is the only company immune for now (because they found their own unique approach and market).
Would make much more sense for me if it was a cross-licence solution, even if just for first party studios. GoT sounds great on PC, but I ain't paying full price again for a game I beat multiple times..
Hmmm, I jumped in trying to get UFC 5 Deluxe, but it seems to be priced at £59.99. Not sure what's going on, but if they changed it after launching sale with £19.99... man, that s*cks.
I would expect many more devs going for the $40 price after Helldivers 2 success. So much so, actually, that I'm slightly afraid that sweet spot between indie and AAAA is going to get over-saturated. It was typically reserved for fun but not great gems, as if devs knew their gameplay is fire but they don't have production values to warrant $70 pricing. I don't want that to disappear
@Shrek_Realista by understanding that to maintain diverse portfolio you have to have a healthy business that can afford taking risks/eating up unforseen loses. If having 80% of new releases be GaaS (which I don't care about at all) means other 20% be stuff like GoW, Horizon, GT7, upcoming Stellar Blade, etc.. I'm OK with that. Better than having zero games of that level, which as a disappointed Series owner I can attest to.
Awesome, second game I was looking into buying going day 1 to the service. Sony throwing some serious punches, probably looking to aggressively grow sub numbers (this can not be either normal or viable long-term).
Demo for this game was great. I just recently returned to Sea of Stars to finish it, and it seems like I'll stay in retro land for a little while more. Good job Sony
@Shrek_Realista you do understand that Playstation is selling out competition more than 2:1 during the generation that was designed and developed solely during his tenure. Everything can be considered a failure if you squint hard enough, but calling Jim a failure takes real effort
This game is one of the biggest PS5 wins that somehow usually doesn't get mentioned when going over best games on the platform. I'm consistently hooked into weekly challenges and have been returning to it for years.
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Re: 13 More Games Join PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Week
Nothing for me.. and during a month my Extra is running out. Ok then..
Re: PS5 Pro Reveal Is Already Sony's Most Disliked Console Announcement
Videogame graphics have reached a point where I'm satisfied and am not bothered paying extra to make it slightly better.
That said, if Sony removes performance mode completely, and locks me into playing at 30 FPS on PS5 Amateur... I still won't go Professional, but will get very mad at them
Re: PS5 Pro Can Run PS4 Games Better Via Improved Backwards Compatibility
For 799€ it should be literally creating free sequels on it's own 😃
I love how everybody is laser focused on 699$, when there is a small European market of 450 million getting scalped..
Re: Soapbox: Astro Bot PS5 Is Not a Graveyard, It's a Joyful Demonstration of Sony's Unique Ability to Reinvent Itself
Completely agree with you, and I felt the same way when I read TheGamer article. Absolutely misses the point.
Just having the pool of over 150 characters to use is amazing. But you don't get that pool unless you are willing to constantly reinvent yourself. And that is hard, that is risky. And I hope Sony goes back to being that company that is willing to take the "innovation" risk (as lately they have been playing it safe) imagining new IPs and ideas.
Re: Astro Bot (PS5) - One of the Greatest PlayStation Platformers of All Time
This review (let's be honest, metacritic too) has made me happy. Very happy. Tomorrow can't come soon enough. GOTY!!
Re: Black Myth: Wukong's Xbox Delay Isn't Due to Platform Limitations, Says Microsoft
@Ilyn I completely agree with your theory. I would only add this is what MS has been doing for a while. Behind the scenes, MS has been lending resources through ATG among others, to release games on Xbox without delays. All that is to "hide" the fact platform is not No. 1. priority to smaller teams, and it is harder to develop for 2 SKUs (all of which are logic 101 conclusions being thrown money at to obscure).
Re: PS5, PC Shooter Concord Dead on Arrival, Is Being Taken Offline This Week as Dev 'Explores Options'
Honestly, expected it to last for 6 months before being taken offline and adapted to F2P, as that was a semi-established model for live service game failures.. but this is something completely new. I hope they bury returned copies into desert and make a documentary out of it.
Re: Let the Astro Bot PS5 Launch Trailer Tide You Over Until Release
I really hope this game does well. I'll love it either way, as it's one of my favorite genres, but I so want it to sell well and warrant a sequel/continuation of this path for Sony.
Re: PS5, PC FPS Concord's Poor Player Numbers Have Predictably Gone Viral
@get2sammyb I feel it's mostly because this whole game looks like it was AI generated. Completely by the numbers, no creativity or originality at all.
Whatever happens with Concord, I don't care. I'm waiting on Astro to release
Re: Xbox Renegotiated Indiana Jones Deal to Exclude PS5, Then Ported It Anyway
The price of the renegotiation was most likely in the range of what would have saved Tango studio...
Re: Xbox on Bringing Exclusives to PS5: The Industry Is Changing for All of Us
Phil is like a nothing-burger restaurant. Everything this guy says is vague and undetermined. And even with that, he still sounds like defending a sinking ship here.
Re: Rumour: Xbox to Announce a 'Big' Game Coming to PS5 at Gamescom
Hopefully not Starfield. IMHO that game has been a failure and people are just hanging onto the dream of "big Bethesda RPGs" still being alive. However, reality is the game is outdated, clunky, and boring.
I'm genuinely worried releasing on PS5 this late after public opinion settled might result in a sales debacle (which is not what I want for MS multiplat releases, ideally they release all games to PS5).
Re: PS Plus Extra Loses Five More Noteworthy PS5, PS4 Games
Sea of Stars was awesome, just wanted to give it a shout (maybe somebody plays it )
Re: Sony Boss Hermen Hulst Allegedly Taking Control of Bungie as Ex-Employees Call for Current CEO to Leave
In all honesty, Sony is handling this situation the way it should. Take control, clean up management, reassess, recover in time. It s*cks for employees let go, but at least there is a chance studio survives.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for August 2024 Announced
Well, Ender lilies for me. Which is actually fine, whenever Plus gives me at least one game of my list I'm happy
Re: Sample Rise of the Ronin in New PS5 Demo Available Now
For those interested, demo is actually almost 100 GB. Quite a chunk.
But I really want to try this, and assuming performance issues are not too great I'll be dumping the cash..
Re: Talking Point: Was Sony Right to Resist Adding PS5 Exclusives to PS Plus Day One?
Version of this question has been asked multiple times since PS Plus re-imagining, and every time I have voted against adding first party games day one.
Decent permanent discounts however, would be a great addition.
Re: 6 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for July 2024 Leaked Early
Finally Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII Reunion, I've been toying with buying it for a while between PS5 and Switch, but always aborting last minute expecting it to join a service.. and here we are
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for July 2024 Announced
Nothing for me... That's a shame.
Re: Preview: Astro Bot on PS5 Could Be the Best 3D Platformer This Side of Nintendo
I can already see myself crying once I'm done with this game. That is what getting old feels like, you already mourn the good times before they even happen.
Re: Even as a LEGO Game, Horizon Adventures' PS5 Visuals Are Off the Charts
@get2sammyb bit of a late reply on my end, I'm Croatian. I'm sure they will update local shops soon, I just don't want to preorder before it's "clear".
Unfortunately, had previous experience where "fine print" was read and side-by-side offer listing was examined for some extra content, so I'm just going "better safe then sorry" route these days.
Edit: One of the popular shops actually updated their page to include preorder bonus today, so that settles that
Re: Even as a LEGO Game, Horizon Adventures' PS5 Visuals Are Off the Charts
@get2sammyb absolutely, can't wait for these to release. I'll be getting both day 1. Unfortunately, it seems like in my country they have not yet listed pre-order bonuses for Astro, so I'll be waiting on some transparency on that.
Lego Horizon looks stunning, I knew it was gonna be a good fit, but not this much.
Re: PS5 Hardware Architect Says It May Take Less Time to Build a Console Than a Game Now
I have the upmost respect for this man, and can only hope he will one day make a channel to share his views/knowledge. I'm not sure it has been confirmed, but I believe his are the best hands PS6 can be in.
Re: Many, Many More Major Xbox Games Are Being Plotted for PS5
I might have slept through this, but when exactly was this moved from rumors to news (and something like Project Latitude confirmed)?
Don't get me wrong, lovely to hear, just legitimizing it is sort of a big deal..
Re: Sony's New PS5, PC Shooter Concord Confirmed as a $40 Game
I don't believe this gets saved by a $40 price.. It really depends on what gets released, but trailer/presentation looked subpar and in comparison to Helldivers 2 of all things it looks significantly less fun. Admittedly, Helldivers also looked "meh" in trailers, however delivered big time on release.
Re: Big New PS5, PC Shooter Concord Has an Uphill Battle Ahead of It
It's really simple Sony, nobody needs Yet Another 5vs5 Shooter. Why can't they just drop this nonsense and go back to making games I genuinely enjoyed and paid for?
Re: Astro Bot Raises the Bar for Sony's PS Studios Intros on PS5
@PuppetMaster might be selfish, but I don't want Team Asobi to touch anything else except Astro. They need to ride this success and make Astro Sony's Mario, instantly recognizable.
However, Sony should look at this and give other first party studios "a licence to kill by fun".
Re: PC Players Are Fuming Until Dawn, God of War Ragnarok Appear to Require PSN Logins
As an occasional PC player, all I can say is this is just a bunch of bo**ocks by frustrated people needing excuse to rage and youtubers making up a story to spike their channel viewership. There is no problem!
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced During Sony's State of Play Livestream for May 2024?
You missed Ballad of Antara and Where winds meet, which both happen to look decent to me..
Re: Astro Bot Looks Absolutely Glorious, Lands on PS5 This September
Astro was by far the best part of the show. It's not even a competition. This is Sony's Mario Odyssey (in the world of platformers, there is not much higher praise I can give it).
Re: Big Discounts on PS Plus Subs, PS5 Consoles, and PSVR2 in Days of Play Promotion
Yeah, seems like I'll have to let my sub expire in September to resub during Black Friday.. because Sony is a bunch of loonies?
I have enough owned backlog games to be able to hold for couple of months but making users lapse and wait for next sale oppo is lunacy, not to mention losing money.
Re: Rumour: Full Astro Bot PS5 Game to Be Announced Very Soon
If this gets to be similar to Astro's Playroom, buying it day one. That game was very underappreciated.
Re: PS Plus Extra, Premium Lose 12 Games In June, Including GTA 5
Honestly, not sure why they bothered.. most of the people who wanted GTA5 already owned it. Seems like a last ditch effort on Rockstar end to try to upsell Online to few other folks before GTA6.
Out of the list, The Talos Principle is the only one I would care to finish before removal, if you have not done so yet.
Re: A Lot of PS4 Owners Have Yet to Upgrade to PS5
Honestly, I don't understand the "generation never started" arguments.. over the last generation graphics have evolved far enough that further x2 jumps will never feel as groundbreaking as during PS1/2 era. If anything PC owners should be very familiar with this (basically last 4 years of GPUs are iterative and in total don't represent a shocking visual bump unless you are on DF team).
It might be time to stop thinking about traditional generations and start thinking about continuous experience provided by ongoing ecosystem.
And Sony probably doesn't mind as those 50% still using PS4 are:
EDIT: I understand my first line might read a bit wrong. Comment is targeted at people who dispute reasoning to upgrade "as generation has never started" when in fact it has, I just think future generations will be shorter, less groundbreaking, and not mandatory upgrades. Waiting on a world-shattering release event that is not going to happen as the nature of the generation is changing.
Re: 13 New Games Joining PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Week
Worst month I can remember.. last one was decent for me, but this is just terrible.
Re: Akimbot Looks Like a Ratchet & Clank Knock-Off for PS5
Happy somebody decided to clone R&C, as it definitely deserves it.
As for trailer, looks a bit mediocre but I'll give it a try if priced properly.
Re: This Year's Call of Duty May Not Be Included in Xbox Game Pass After All
Was always gonna be the case. Not sure what people expected, there is no way they could have been financially stable and release all Activision titles into GP day 1.
Re: Tango Gameworks, Arkane Austin, More Closed in Brutal Bethesda Restructure
I see your true colors...
Not saying I told you so, but I told you so. MS is a cut throat company built on shady tactics and suspect competition elimination. It was only matter of time before they gut my favorite hobby, which they arguably already did as I blame aggressive early GP pricing pressure for the current state of console gaming. Nintendo is the only company immune for now (because they found their own unique approach and market).
Re: It Looks Like Kena: Bridge of Spirits Is Heading to New Platforms
Good game, glad it's moving to other platforms. Personally, I believe it would do wonderfully on Nintendo systems.
Re: Sony Reveals PlayStation Overlay for PC Ports, Supports Trophies, Friends List
Would make much more sense for me if it was a cross-licence solution, even if just for first party studios. GoT sounds great on PC, but I ain't paying full price again for a game I beat multiple times..
Re: A Further 2,000 Major PS5, PS4 Games Are on Sale Right Now
Hmmm, I jumped in trying to get UFC 5 Deluxe, but it seems to be priced at £59.99. Not sure what's going on, but if they changed it after launching sale with £19.99... man, that s*cks.
Re: $70 Games Are Just a Phase, Believes Saber Interactive CEO
I would expect many more devs going for the $40 price after Helldivers 2 success. So much so, actually, that I'm slightly afraid that sweet spot between indie and AAAA is going to get over-saturated. It was typically reserved for fun but not great gems, as if devs knew their gameplay is fire but they don't have production values to warrant $70 pricing. I don't want that to disappear
Re: New PlayStation CEO Hiroki Totoki Starts Temporary Role Today
@Shrek_Realista by understanding that to maintain diverse portfolio you have to have a healthy business that can afford taking risks/eating up unforseen loses.
If having 80% of new releases be GaaS (which I don't care about at all) means other 20% be stuff like GoW, Horizon, GT7, upcoming Stellar Blade, etc.. I'm OK with that.
Better than having zero games of that level, which as a disappointed Series owner I can attest to.
Re: Tales of Kenzera: ZAU Also a Day One PS Plus Extra Game, Out 23rd April
Awesome, second game I was looking into buying going day 1 to the service.
Sony throwing some serious punches, probably looking to aggressively grow sub numbers (this can not be either normal or viable long-term).
Re: Dave the Diver Will Launch on PS Plus Extra, Free for Members on 16th April
Demo for this game was great. I just recently returned to Sea of Stars to finish it, and it seems like I'll stay in retro land for a little while more. Good job Sony
Re: New PlayStation CEO Hiroki Totoki Starts Temporary Role Today
@Shrek_Realista you do understand that Playstation is selling out competition more than 2:1 during the generation that was designed and developed solely during his tenure.
Everything can be considered a failure if you squint hard enough, but calling Jim a failure takes real effort
Re: PS5, PS4's Gran Turismo 7 Continues to Get Better and Better
This game is one of the biggest PS5 wins that somehow usually doesn't get mentioned when going over best games on the platform.
I'm consistently hooked into weekly challenges and have been returning to it for years.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for April 2024 Announced
Hoped Immortals would be added to the service, so that is good enough for me. No care for the other two though.
Re: Huge Star Ocean: The Second Story R Update Makes This Fantastic Remake Even Better
@darreb510 6 large games... oh how I wish that was my backlog depth. That's basically monthly addition to the list
Re: PS Plus Extra Loses These 11 PS5, PS4 Games Next Month
Came here to complain.. sort of lost steam after I've seen and thought about the list. Never actually considered playing any of these games...