I think it’s really cool, but I don’t have much use for it since I have a Steam Deck, Switch and a dedicated TV for my Ps5. I want one, but feel the need to show restraint with purchases given all the hardware I have and a potential new Switch on the horizon…..
@NinjaSixx it pains me to say this but I agree. Especially the Gawd awful 2600. I love the arcade games and some of the later system games. I loved Atari back in the day tho.
@nomither6 it’s not like Sony has done all that much new or innovative this generation. Lots of remakes, games that run on last generation hardware, and even Spider-Man 2 is more of the same. I mean, look at the comments in this thread. I don’t even have to make an argument. From my perspective, it doesn’t matter bc outside of the Vita, I am new to Sony, so I am a fan.
As for Nintendo, there’s been quite a bit new and innovative in the design of the hardware itself. It being hybrid, the controllers etc. There’s been new IP (Mario Rabbids, ARMs, Mario Kart Live, Splatoon, Ring Fit, LABO and a new Peach game) and improvements existing franchises with Xenoblade, Fire Emblem, Kirby, Zelda, Wonder and Odyssey….
I could understand your argument if it had a repeat of the WiiU, but sales suggest otherwise. The next generation sounds promising too. Again, not trying to incite console war post here, as as there’s plenty I like about Sony, including the Portal, tho I probably won’t get one bc I have too many devices as it stands.
Why isn’t Nintendo considered Sony’s rival? Not being too much of a fanboy, bc I love all the platforms, including Xbox and Sony. But I think Nintendo is best prepared to navigate the future.
Consoles are going away…..but Nintendo has the more endearing and most franchises. They are branching out into other areas of entertainment. And they are very comfortable, if not dominant in the handheld space. Plus, they have a generation to catch up- in 7-8 years, there will probably be a Nintendo hybrid system with the specs of a Ps5 and in 15, the specs of a Ps6….
@UltimateOtaku91 YouTuber “Switchforce” summed it up perfectly……it’s one of those games that you just wouldn’t expect to run at all on the Switch and it actually runs fairly well. But it 2023, not 2017. It’s time to stop the miracles and get with the times- get to the point where games run well and it’s just par for the course. So, if the Switch is your only platform or if you you want to play it on the go, it’s not such a bad option….
As for Mario RPG, I think most will choose Wonder over this- it hasn’t even been a month since release. I got it, but it was a last minute decision on impulse. I bet it ultimately still sells a solid 4-5 million.
I can see where this makes sense. If you just buy a console and you aren’t using, you won’t be as inclined to get the next console and you lose a customer. So with this, a husband can play whilst the wife and/or kids watch other programming. This is why I loved the WiiU, but that’s another story…. I get that it’s expensive, but so is a pro/Edge controller. A more casual gamer won’t need that, but would probably find this more appealing.
Undecided. It seems like something I would enjoy. I have a Steam Deck, two switches and a dedicated tv for ps5. Really don’t need it but I just like this sort of thing….
“Moreover, it’s worth reiterating that this is the situation in the United States, where the Xbox brand is strongest – in countries like France, Sony is closing on 90 per cent market share against its nearest rival.”
Do they just flat out not consider Nintendo a rival? Nintendo is pretty big in France, and I can’t imagine that they have a 90 percent margin on them.
I really love the idea of this and might eventually get one….. I just don’t really need another device….i have OG Switch, OLED Switch, Steam Deck, Ps5, Series X….. Vita, 3dsxl, WiiU…. Someone mentioned “hardware fatigue….” Fitting for me.
@Grumblevolcano interesting. I wonder if they would just spin off the gaming division? Too many variables to ponder what happens if they don’t hit that goal. I think x4 is pretty unrealistic.
@Kraven “hardware fatigue” that’s a good way to put it. I know we are 4-5 years away from the next generation, but I truly think we had reached diminishing returns…. Will get the new Switch bc we will see meaningful upgrades, but I could see myself enjoying this generation indefinitely.
@Powerplay94 there’s 130 plus million “ancillary consoles” out there…for me the Switch is my main console and the other two are my side consoles. I play on the go mostly….hard to say what the next iteration will do. Might be tough to follow the success of the Switch, but if they can avoid the mistakes of the WiiU, I can see it doing quite well.
@gonzilla same here. I took a hiatus from gaming dating back nearly 20 years to the SNES and I was amazed. NintendoLand is such an underrated game. The few games it had were really awesome, especially Mario Kart 8. That’s another surreal moment….. Lack of marketing and poor timing. Tablets and mobile gaming blew up at the same time and people didn’t see the value in tethered gaming, but I loved how it freed up the TV and also for the few games that employed it, the second screen….
@lightningbolt79 I see it more as a premium controller. I realize that you can accomplish similar results by other means, but this is a more convenient integrated approach. I will be in the minority, but I think it is really cool. Not sure I will get it bc I have blown a ton of $$$$ on systems and games. Steamdeck, x2 switches, Ps5, Elite 2 and Series X….Not ruling out a future purchase, but with a new Switch on the horizon, I think that $$$$ would be better spent there.
But if you have a family or even just a partner and one wants to watch TV whilst the other plays, this is pretty cool. I always thought the WiiU was cool and that if properly marketed, it should have sold better.
@RichterBelmont this is somewhat like a beta….think what the WiiU was to the Switch, only they won’t have to suffer as a company like Nintendo did.
I think you hit a key point tho….a lot of so-called experts say that the console will disappear or maybe they morph into a dongle ….but a dedicated would be pretty cool. I am not sure what it is, but I just don’t like gaming on tablets and phones. Maybe I am just a Nintendo fanboy at heart, but I believe in their philosophy that the software build is tied to the hardware….Sony has obviously dabbled in this, but perhaps they see the writing on the wall.
I am not sure I will buy the next gen Xbox or PlayStation if for no other reason that I think we have hit diminishing returns with gaming. I really don’t care about 8k and 120 fps or whatever the specs will be. But sign me up for an advanced handheld system that can keep up with with current gen specs.
@JayJ they sure fell hard and fast…. I remember one of their execs calling out Nintendo at their low point during the WiiU years….. looks Big N got the last laugh….
@Fritz167 it reminds me of the Gamepad on the WiiU. It was really cool but not many games took advantage of it. Except maybe more games made use of the feature on that system than the features on the Dualsense….I love the controller but it’s a shame the functionality isn’t used much….
@Impossibilium I bought a Steamdeck last year in part bc I always wanted to play Madden in hand held mode. EA never released a Switch version, which I think was a big mistake. Anyway, I made the mistake of getting Madden in mid October, right when my Deck arrived. Two weeks later, it went on sale for at least 40 percent off. If I get this, it will be at the end of the season for a deep discount….
I love the idea… not sure my WiFi is good enough for it. I would not mind playing it tethered to the Ps5 if possible….Will probably pass on it but might get it on impulse.
@Beerheadgamer82 Nintendo won’t be able to compete on specs. The system will be too expensive and most Nintendo users aren’t as graphic/performance focused. Also, by essentially being a generation behind as far as hardware, it leaves some wiggle room for the future…. What I am getting at is that we are already at a point of diminishing returns as far as hardware. Honestly, I am still impressed with Ps4/xbone and think it would be pretty amazing to be able to have this level of performance in a handheld….
The main problem I have with a game like this is the same issue I have with Splatoon…. I am just not big with online multiplayer and much prefer a single player campaign….but this does look cool if you are into games like this.
I love this idea…. It was pretty much what got me back into gaming with the WiiU. Would consider getting one for $300 or less, especially if the controls mimic the Duelsense fairly well.
@Slippship while the Steamdeck is far more robots, the battery sucks and it’s quite bulky. Granted, you have to be a fan of Nintendo like stuff, but it has the most exclusives and developers have managed to do a lot with the hardware…. It’s starting to feel dated but I still prefer it over my other three consoles. The Vita has aged pretty well. It’s like the WiiU. Under appreciated and obviously didn’t sell very well. It’s a great little device but the Switch is an upgrade
@xDD90x I think u can add them to ur library still. I did this with my Vita. I added PS4 games to the library even tho I didn’t have one. They are now playable if I renew my Plus sub.
@SamMR the only thing I can think would be enormous fines or maybe even ban MSFT from doing ANY biz in the UK? But if it’s just a matter of not selling Gamepass or certain games in the UK, if I am MSFT, that’s a big “who cares?” for me.
As cool as subscriptions can be, I like to buy games on sale so I can play them at my pace. Xbox sorta does it right bc they own so many studios…sticking with GamePass for at least the end of the year. Not sure if I continue after that. If u are selective and patient, you can own some great games very inexpensively. Tht said, I do like that u can try out games that you normally might not have tried before…
@NEStalgia I thought it was going to sell about as much as it was going to sell 20 million copies ago….I sure was wrong. as mentioned, it’s just a go to game for new Switch owners, even more than Odyssey or NSMBU….and I guess the movie has sparked some interest in new systems.
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Re: PS Portal Was the USA's Fourth Best-Selling System in November
I think it’s really cool, but I don’t have much use for it since I have a Steam Deck, Switch and a dedicated TV for my Ps5. I want one, but feel the need to show restraint with purchases given all the hardware I have and a potential new Switch on the horizon…..
Re: The Brilliant Atari 50 Adds 12 More Games in Free Holiday Update, Available Now
The only one I care about is the Lynx title…something is better than nothing, I suppose.
Re: Pinball M (PS5) - A Devilishly Cohesive Horror Pinball Platform
@Gitface I liked it enough to get all four. I also went to Pinball FX and while the loading times and interface suck, at least the lag is fixed….
Re: Pinball M (PS5) - A Devilishly Cohesive Horror Pinball Platform
I decided to take the plunge. Definitely recommend if u are on the fence. No lag and interface is improved.
Re: Pinball M (PS5) - A Devilishly Cohesive Horror Pinball Platform
Hmmmm…. Maybe I will give this a whirl afterall….FX was such a disappointment with pricing structure, small lag and overall interface.
Re: 12 Extra Atari 2600 Games Are on the Way to Atari 50, Even More in Further Updates
@NinjaSixx it pains me to say this but I agree. Especially the Gawd awful 2600. I love the arcade games and some of the later system games. I loved Atari back in the day tho.
Re: Reaction: PlayStation's Finally Poised to Penetrate the Mobile Market in the Right Way
Not gonna rule it out, but I just have a hard time getting into mobile games….
Re: It's Going to Be a Big Few Days for Virtual Pinball Fans on PS5, PS4
@Amnesiac and there seems to be a small lag. Wasn’t there a recent patch?
Re: It's Going to Be a Big Few Days for Virtual Pinball Fans on PS5, PS4
I liked the tables on the new Pinball FX, but hate the subscription pricing model, interface and load times. Not sure if I will bite on this.
Re: Reaction: PS5's Success Is Not Luck, Because Sony's Spent Years Putting in the Hard Yards
@nomither6 it’s not like Sony has done all that much new or innovative this generation. Lots of remakes, games that run on last generation hardware, and even Spider-Man 2 is more of the same. I mean, look at the comments in this thread. I don’t even have to make an argument. From my perspective, it doesn’t matter bc outside of the Vita, I am new to Sony, so I am a fan.
As for Nintendo, there’s been quite a bit new and innovative in the design of the hardware itself. It being hybrid, the controllers etc. There’s been new IP (Mario Rabbids, ARMs, Mario Kart Live, Splatoon, Ring Fit, LABO and a new Peach game) and improvements existing franchises with Xenoblade, Fire Emblem, Kirby, Zelda, Wonder and Odyssey….
I could understand your argument if it had a repeat of the WiiU, but sales suggest otherwise. The next generation sounds promising too. Again, not trying to incite console war post here, as as there’s plenty I like about Sony, including the Portal, tho I probably won’t get one bc I have too many devices as it stands.
Re: Reaction: PS5's Success Is Not Luck, Because Sony's Spent Years Putting in the Hard Yards
Why isn’t Nintendo considered Sony’s rival? Not being too much of a fanboy, bc I love all the platforms, including Xbox and Sony. But I think Nintendo is best prepared to navigate the future.
Consoles are going away…..but Nintendo has the more endearing and most franchises. They are branching out into other areas of entertainment. And they are very comfortable, if not dominant in the handheld space. Plus, they have a generation to catch up- in 7-8 years, there will probably be a Nintendo hybrid system with the specs of a Ps5 and in 15, the specs of a Ps6….
Re: UK Sales Charts: Hogwarts Legacy Apparates Back to the Top Spot
@UltimateOtaku91 YouTuber “Switchforce” summed it up perfectly……it’s one of those games that you just wouldn’t expect to run at all on the Switch and it actually runs fairly well. But it 2023, not 2017. It’s time to stop the miracles and get with the times- get to the point where games run well and it’s just par for the course. So, if the Switch is your only platform or if you you want to play it on the go, it’s not such a bad option….
As for Mario RPG, I think most will choose Wonder over this- it hasn’t even been a month since release. I got it, but it was a last minute decision on impulse. I bet it ultimately still sells a solid 4-5 million.
Re: Sony Says PS Portal Wasn't Designed to Make a Profit
I can see where this makes sense. If you just buy a console and you aren’t using, you won’t be as inclined to get the next console and you lose a customer. So with this, a husband can play whilst the wife and/or kids watch other programming. This is why I loved the WiiU, but that’s another story…. I get that it’s expensive, but so is a pro/Edge controller. A more casual gamer won’t need that, but would probably find this more appealing.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 503
Diablo IV as a matter of fact….Octopath Traveler and Super Mario RPG…..
Re: PS5 Is Now Above PS4 in USA, While Its New-Gen Rival Flounders
@Rafie love both but Forza is more for me. It’s just more approachable. And the races can get long on GT. But I like how GT controls better.
Re: Poll: Did You Buy a PS Portal?
Undecided. It seems like something I would enjoy. I have a Steam Deck, two switches and a dedicated tv for ps5. Really don’t need it but I just like this sort of thing….
Re: PS5 Is Now Above PS4 in USA, While Its New-Gen Rival Flounders
“Moreover, it’s worth reiterating that this is the situation in the United States, where the Xbox brand is strongest – in countries like France, Sony is closing on 90 per cent market share against its nearest rival.”
Do they just flat out not consider Nintendo a rival? Nintendo is pretty big in France, and I can’t imagine that they have a 90 percent margin on them.
Re: Video: PS Portal Unboxing Gives Us Our First Look at Sony Handheld
I really love the idea of this and might eventually get one….. I just don’t really need another device….i have OG Switch, OLED Switch, Steam Deck, Ps5, Series X….. Vita, 3dsxl, WiiU…. Someone mentioned “hardware fatigue….” Fitting for me.
Re: Sony Takes Control of UK as PS5 Climbs to 51% Market Share
@Grumblevolcano interesting. I wonder if they would just spin off the gaming division? Too many variables to ponder what happens if they don’t hit that goal. I think x4 is pretty unrealistic.
Re: Sony Takes Control of UK as PS5 Climbs to 51% Market Share
@Bionic-Spencer I know things can change, but leaked documents have said that they will release a next generation Xbox in 2028….
Re: Planet Coaster: Console Edition (PS5) - A Thrilling Business Sim with Lots of Ways to Play
It’s on sale for $9.99 till 11/18….
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 499
Super Mario Wonder and Diablo IV
Re: Is It Surprising that PlayStation Fans Don't Really Care About the PS5 Slim?
@Kraven “hardware fatigue” that’s a good way to put it. I know we are 4-5 years away from the next generation, but I truly think we had reached diminishing returns…. Will get the new Switch bc we will see meaningful upgrades, but I could see myself enjoying this generation indefinitely.
Re: PS5 Is Running Riot in Europe, with Sales Up 175% Over Last Year
@Powerplay94 there’s 130 plus million “ancillary consoles” out there…for me the Switch is my main console and the other two are my side consoles. I play on the go mostly….hard to say what the next iteration will do. Might be tough to follow the success of the Switch, but if they can avoid the mistakes of the WiiU, I can see it doing quite well.
Re: Poll: How's Your Hype for Marvel's Spider-Man 2?
@DrVenture69 except certain Nintendo titles, I a done paying full price for AAA titles. I will at least wait till they drop to $50 or less….
Re: Demand for PlayStation Portal Sky High in Japan, Pre-Orders Reportedly Sold Out
@gonzilla same here. I took a hiatus from gaming dating back nearly 20 years to the SNES and I was amazed. NintendoLand is such an underrated game. The few games it had were really awesome, especially Mario Kart 8. That’s another surreal moment….. Lack of marketing and poor timing. Tablets and mobile gaming blew up at the same time and people didn’t see the value in tethered gaming, but I loved how it freed up the TV and also for the few games that employed it, the second screen….
Re: Demand for PlayStation Portal Sky High in Japan, Pre-Orders Reportedly Sold Out
@lightningbolt79 I see it more as a premium controller. I realize that you can accomplish similar results by other means, but this is a more convenient integrated approach. I will be in the minority, but I think it is really cool. Not sure I will get it bc I have blown a ton of $$$$ on systems and games. Steamdeck, x2 switches, Ps5, Elite 2 and Series X….Not ruling out a future purchase, but with a new Switch on the horizon, I think that $$$$ would be better spent there.
But if you have a family or even just a partner and one wants to watch TV whilst the other plays, this is pretty cool. I always thought the WiiU was cool and that if properly marketed, it should have sold better.
Re: Where to Pre-Order PlayStation Portal
@RichterBelmont this is somewhat like a beta….think what the WiiU was to the Switch, only they won’t have to suffer as a company like Nintendo did.
I think you hit a key point tho….a lot of so-called experts say that the console will disappear or maybe they morph into a dongle ….but a dedicated would be pretty cool. I am not sure what it is, but I just don’t like gaming on tablets and phones. Maybe I am just a Nintendo fanboy at heart, but I believe in their philosophy that the software build is tied to the hardware….Sony has obviously dabbled in this, but perhaps they see the writing on the wall.
I am not sure I will buy the next gen Xbox or PlayStation if for no other reason that I think we have hit diminishing returns with gaming. I really don’t care about 8k and 120 fps or whatever the specs will be. But sign me up for an advanced handheld system that can keep up with with current gen specs.
Re: Angry Birds VR: Isle of Pigs Slingshots onto PSVR2 Next Month
@JayJ they sure fell hard and fast…. I remember one of their execs calling out Nintendo at their low point during the WiiU years….. looks Big N got the last laugh….
Re: UK Sales Charts: Surprise Hit Lies of P Makes an Impressive Third Place Debut
@2here2there I think if you buy a new Switch, you just buy MK8D to go along with it….
Re: Xbox Poised to Borrow from PS5's DualSense Controller
@Fritz167 it reminds me of the Gamepad on the WiiU. It was really cool but not many games took advantage of it. Except maybe more games made use of the feature on that system than the features on the Dualsense….I love the controller but it’s a shame the functionality isn’t used much….
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 493
Switch- Pikmin 4
Series X- Diablo 4
ps5- Baldurs Gate
Re: Madden NFL 24 (PS5) - Another Five Yards Forward for EA Sports' Football Sim
@Impossibilium I bought a Steamdeck last year in part bc I always wanted to play Madden in hand held mode. EA never released a Switch version, which I think was a big mistake. Anyway, I made the mistake of getting Madden in mid October, right when my Deck arrived. Two weeks later, it went on sale for at least 40 percent off. If I get this, it will be at the end of the season for a deep discount….
Re: Poll: Are You Sold on PlayStation Portal?
I love the idea… not sure my WiFi is good enough for it. I would not mind playing it tethered to the Ps5 if possible….Will probably pass on it but might get it on impulse.
Re: PlayStation Portal Is Sony's PS5 Remote Play Handheld, Priced at $200 / £200
I don’t think it’s priced too badly…. Put this way, I would rather have this than the Edge.
Re: PS5 Sales Absolutely Explode in the UK Following Price Cut
@Beerheadgamer82 Nintendo won’t be able to compete on specs. The system will be too expensive and most Nintendo users aren’t as graphic/performance focused. Also, by essentially being a generation behind as far as hardware, it leaves some wiggle room for the future…. What I am getting at is that we are already at a point of diminishing returns as far as hardware. Honestly, I am still impressed with Ps4/xbone and think it would be pretty amazing to be able to have this level of performance in a handheld….
Re: Preview: Ignore the Snark, Foamstars Is Good
The main problem I have with a game like this is the same issue I have with Splatoon…. I am just not big with online multiplayer and much prefer a single player campaign….but this does look cool if you are into games like this.
Re: Sony Expects to Sell Over 108 Million PS5 Consoles This Generation
This is my first Dony home console, tho I do have a Vita….
Re: UK Sales Charts: The Lord of the Rings: Gollum Manages a Top 10 Debut, Sells Best on PS5
@NinjaNicky I see what u did there! Not a huge Zelda fan, but it does seem like there’s more to do on this rendition…
Re: Sony's Portable PS5 Streaming Handheld Launches Later This Year
I love this idea…. It was pretty much what got me back into gaming with the WiiU. Would consider getting one for $300 or less, especially if the controls mimic the Duelsense fairly well.
Re: Ghost of Tsushima Topped an Impressive 1 Million Sales in Japan
@naruball @Tr3mm0r some friendly trolling…..I am a big fan of Sony…. I just like Nintendo more.
Re: Ghost of Tsushima Topped an Impressive 1 Million Sales in Japan
Zelda sold one million in Japan over the weekend…. I think Splatoon 3 also did similar numbers.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Nothing on PS5, PS4, Can Compete with Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
@Slippship while the Steamdeck is far more robots, the battery sucks and it’s quite bulky. Granted, you have to be a fan of Nintendo like stuff, but it has the most exclusives and developers have managed to do a lot with the hardware…. It’s starting to feel dated but I still prefer it over my other three consoles. The Vita has aged pretty well. It’s like the WiiU. Under appreciated and obviously didn’t sell very well. It’s a great little device but the Switch is an upgrade
Re: Reminder: Claim 19 Great PS4 Games Before They Leave PS Plus Tomorrow
@xDD90x I think u can add them to ur library still. I did this with my Vita. I added PS4 games to the library even tho I didn’t have one. They are now playable if I renew my Plus sub.
Re: UK's Activision Buyout Block Forbids Microsoft from Trying Again for 10 Years
@SamMR the only thing I can think would be enormous fines or maybe even ban MSFT from doing ANY biz in the UK? But if it’s just a matter of not selling Gamepass or certain games in the UK, if I am MSFT, that’s a big “who cares?” for me.
Re: Soapbox: I No Longer Think Subscriptions Like PS Plus, Xbox Game Pass Are the Future of Gaming
As cool as subscriptions can be, I like to buy games on sale so I can play them at my pace. Xbox sorta does it right bc they own so many studios…sticking with GamePass for at least the end of the year. Not sure if I continue after that. If u are selective and patient, you can own some great games very inexpensively. Tht said, I do like that u can try out games that you normally might not have tried before…
Re: PS5 Sales Increase An Outrageous 369% in Key European Countries
@Ooccoo_Jr they haven’t delivered on any exclusives hardly….I like Xbox and all, but it really doesn’t have much character or soul….
Re: Reaction: Dreams Losing Support Is a Sad End to PS4's Most Unbelievable Project
@BeerIsAwesome well, I think they can use the characters more…. Maybe make some party games with Sony characters?
Re: Reaction: Dreams Losing Support Is a Sad End to PS4's Most Unbelievable Project
@BeerIsAwesome I wish Sony would develop Sackboy and Astro more as franchises….maybe even some more Ratchet & Clank….
Re: UK Sales Charts: God of War Ragnarok, Gran Turismo 7 Rep PlayStation in Quiet Week
@NEStalgia I thought it was going to sell about as much as it was going to sell 20 million copies ago….I sure was wrong. as mentioned, it’s just a go to game for new Switch owners, even more than Odyssey or NSMBU….and I guess the movie has sparked some interest in new systems.