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@LogicStrikesAgain that is logically the case. The problem comes as follows:

1. Many people don’t like what’s currently on offer

2. Many people believe rightly or wrongly that this decision can be reversed.

3. The chances of this going away anytime soon is low

4. Sony could at least TRY and smooth things over, rather than sticking their head in the sand

@ButteredCrumpet yeah, I won’t deny that there are likely troublemakers and idiots involved in the protest. Like you said, every protest has them. People who don’t believe in the cause and are just looking for trouble, and people who don’t know enough about the topic but yell anyway.

It’s important to try and separate the two, but call me naive, but I haven’t seen too many troublemakers yet (aside from the guy who’s annoyed that PS Plus wasn’t physical).

@thiagoauler doesn’t work like that. You can be a physical collector and play everything you own. You can be a digital collector and only ever play one game.

And as go it being the most accessible, PSN is only accessible in like 30-40 countries.

@Frmknst didn’t Rise of the Ronin launch physically day one?

@get2sammyb yeah, the people who somehow think Push Square are part of PlayStation are fools.

@thiagoauler they’re not trolls. They’re physical gamers who are doing their bit to try and get Sony to back down. It’s unfortunate that the indies are caught in the crossfire, but the anger won’t go away until Sony does SOMETHING

It’s unfortunate to what’s happening to these indies, especially as they don’t tend to get physical releases until AFTER their digital launch.

But I believe PlayStation are at fault here for failing to address the situation and ignoring the audience.

Replaying Doom the Dark Ages. Great game. A shame that the disc only has 75mb on it, but it’s a great game regardless.

@FredBiletnikoff I don’t like to see good games fail. That’s no good for anyone. And I can’t expect EVERY game to be physical. That’s simply not realistic.

@The_Jobbo first of all, I don’t see why they can’t allow boutique publishers to make discs for games that can be run via optional drive.

Second of all, there’s no reason why the PS5 shouldn’t continue to receive discs.

Third of all. This is absolutely a relevant place to discuss it. Anything PlayStation related is an appropriate place to post the most damaging thing Sony can possibly do to game collecting.

I know that people are tired of hearing people moan about this, but for people like me, the internet is the only place we can moan at. What’s the alternative? Let all this emotion bubble up in our heads?

@get2sammyb it’s a shame that it seems to be struggling then. Live service games are all fun to hate on right now, but we shouldn’t be cheering on the celebration of a game that’s actually good.

As someone not in the loop, what happened to Marathon? From what I heard, it seems to be a pretty good game based on reviews.

Be honest, how many of us physical gamers buy our games from GameStop or Game?

That’s cool. I enjoyed her in Xmen 98, so hopefully she’ll be just as cool here

This has all the makings of a disasterous game to screen adaptation.

I’m sorry but I have no faith in this. Injuries aside, the fact that they’re starting with the Norse series means that the show is going to miss out on all the narrative subtleties that made that storyline so great.

@dwayne91 that’s not entirely true. I’m sure PlayStation only care about getting paid, but I’m sure some of these developers want people to be focussing on the trailer itself, not the discussion about Sony killing discs.

@ElPenitente Personally I’d check the PC Master Race crowd, the anti woke crowd, or my personal favourite, the multiplayer kids who love to use the n word over and over again.

@Oram77 then by all means, roll your eyes. Your opinion is just as valid as mine (unless you’re secretly a serial murderer). Just note that I’m unlikely to stop speaking about this topic where I can, because it’s important to me.

I do try and get involved in discussions about the games itself. I went on about Kingdom Hearts during that post. Just in this case, I didn’t have anything else to say.

@Dogbreath well the thing here is that in their minds, the people complaining do think they’re fixing the roof by complaining to Sony enough that they’re forced to change (not saying it’ll work, just saying it’s how they think).

@Oram77 of course not. It’s just that your passions lie in a slightly different place in gaming. I get that you’re bored of the topic, and I’m sorry about that. Just note that I’m not trying to take away digital. You play your games how you want to play them.

@dapinionated SACRIFICE HIM TO THE FIRES OF THE GAMING GODS!!!!

Nah I’m kidding, buy it however you want. I hope you enjoy it.

@Oram77 What can I say, I’m passionate about my hobby

Also are the comments talking about the game, or are they on about discs?

It does look really good. I’ll be looking forward to unwrapping my physical copy of it this Christmas.

@BentIeyma I think what people are looking for at this stage is a response that doesn’t come across as corporate coldness.

That initial blog post was so cold, so in personal, and downright insulting in how it was written. I think the first thing people want is a response with more humanity to it, one that’s more open, and one that does not seem designed to irate its most hardcore audience.

Now the issue there is that are Sony in a position to do that. The anger isn’t going to go away. It may simmer down for a while, but it will return every time big news comes out. It’s a tricky position for Sony to be in, but I hope Sony just don’t ignore the backlash, and respond in some form.

@Dogbreath there’s no reason why you can’t complain about both digital rights and the lack of physical. They go hand in hand to some users.

@wildcat_kickz I know Sony didn’t do it. I saw the Kotaku article earlier today, and checked the video afterwards. I’m saying that if THEORETICALLY Sony tried to do this, it would create the Streisand Effect.

Regardless of the article, disabling comments at this point would just create the Streisand Effect, so it isn’t something Sony should do.

This is yet another reason why an all digital future should be concerning. Want the brand new Sly game you always wanted? Well its all yours on the premium storefront which you need to pay £9.99 a month in order to even access it.

Realistically I expect this to happen to a lot of games in the near future. The fear of having physical be taken away I suspect is making people purchase it whom would otherwise purchase digital.

@Splat And that's fine, but bear in mind that if PlayStation only ever catered to the unvocal majority, we'd just get Fortnite, COD and Fifa, because that's what the majority of people play.

If you're a hardcore fan of God of War or Horizon, you're in the vocal minority.

@dark_knightmare2 The issue is less that the boycott exists (I doubt it will accomplish much) the issue is that it is the only discussion surrounding some of these games.

COMMUNICATION COMMUNICATION COMMUNICATION

That is what is needed right now, but Sony is contempt with staying silent and allowing this mess to continue. Granted the reason why its silent is probably because the plan is for the PS Store to remain a closed ecosystem with no way of converting your discs to digital licenses.

(sarcasm) What we have here is a game that proves once again that gamers' biggest enemy isn't politicians, or the stock market or even other platformer holders....

It is the dreaded woman.

@For-Kier that I do agree with. In spite of being one of (if not THE) most vocally supportive of physical on this site, I never once declared I’d move to PC, because it’s unlikely that I will. I suspect many will either begrudgingly move to PS6 or at best, move to Switch 2.

@Ernimus_Prime I will concede that I have bought games like this. Not Halo, but I do have Doom the Dark Ages on disc.

To me, yes, having to download the game isn’t ideal, but since a digital download is exactly the same, I don’t see it as inherit plus for digital downloads either, so why not get the disc.

I also like my games to be physical-ised in some way. It makes it feel more important.

@Bettyswollocks Two reasons. One, this has not been how games have been for years. It’s been how SOME games have been, but not all.

Two, Microsoft have developed a reputation for this. Way too many of their games have had his issue, many of them being made after the game already had a finished build, so there’s no excuse that they’ve been working until the deadline.

@Dogbreath I accepted that explanation when it came to games like Doom the Dark Ages and Indiana Jones. However Microsoft did this with Oblivion remastered too. That disc came out months after the game came out digitally, so there’s no reason why there shouldn’t be a complete build on the disc.

Microsoft have been terrible for physical gamers for a long long time. Even when they released Oblivion Remastered on disc months after launch, they STILL had the disc hold barely anything.

@RoomWithaMoose it certainly counts as a word when spoken out loud

@For-Kier Ratchet & Mobile Game is gearing up for global launch

@Ryu_Niiyama Any games you want to get, but are worried about them getting too expensive?

Ah, I remember this one. It was the Chinese game revealed in a State of Play last year wasn't it. I remember everyone comparing Lost Souls Aside unfavourably to it.

Here's hoping it's good, and it comes out before January 2028.

@Fiendish-Beaver Yeah, I wouldn't mind that. If producing discs is THAT costly for Sony to support (I doubt it, but for the sake of argument) then sure. I'd pay extra for the disc.

@Anthony_Daniels I can only speak to myself, but I was never interested in GTA 6 anyway (it's not really my thing) so I wouldn't have bought it, even if it was physical.

@Mr-Cage Speaking with my neutral hat on (trying to separate my biases) I think it's perectly ok for Push Square to continue the topic. It is a masive story, and you'd expect big stories to have constant updates and reportings.

@Neuromancer Maybe the metaphor is a bit overdramatic. The point I'm making is that this is an issue that isn't going to just dissappear from the minds of those who care about it (me included). It's going to take time to fully process that my favourite hobby in the world is going to dissappear.

@MrStark I don't think they'll see it like that. If anything, they'd be more likely to think "we don't have enough live services and digital purchases".

@Mr-Cage @Neuromancer I don't think that's a fair comparison. I've been thinking about it a lot, and to me, it's more that a relative I really REALLY love has just died, and I'm struggling through the grieving process.

@RevengeFan I thin to be honest, I don’t think the world of Black a cauldron is visually interesting enough to make for a good world.