SeaDaVie

Maybe this will relaunch as a f2p game in 10 years as a legendary game that no one has ever played.

Well, it's absolutely tanking on Steam but I'd be shocked if it tanks anywhers near as bad on PS

@Rich33 It uses SteamOS which is Linux based, just like the Steam Deck. Any game that doesn’t have a native version will generally run extremely well through Proton(an emulation layer that is extremely good).

The biggest issue is multiplayer games with anti-cheat as they mostly don’t function on Linux.

@UnlimitedSevens

Never really cared for Horizon as a series. Not because it's bad or anything on its own merits, but because the open world third person action genre had become so saturated by the time Guerilla came onto the scene.
InFamous, Days Gone, God of War 2018 / Ragnarok, Death Stranding, Ghost of Tsushima, Spiderman. Very different games sure, but all in (roughly) the same narrow genre. Horizon was just the straw that broke the camel's back for me, one too many games in the same style.

Horizon: Zero Dawn came out before every single game you listed(except InFamous) and the GoW games are not Open World.

The intent of this statement is to imply it was guerilla’s decision to eschew the PS5, I think there can be very little doubt of that.

Maybe in the long term it can be a threat to traditional console, but I doubt there are too many people going to buy it over having a console.

I will get one at some point, or the PCboX, but it’s probably not going to be my primary device for buying big AAA games ever. Multiplayer games with no sub needed is quite nice though.

@Runex2121 They’re the only one because they canabalize the rest of the industry. The existence of it as such a sales machine basically stifles any kind of serious competition within the same market, and allows the developers to coast without any real creativity.

A huge number of the video game yearly spend going every year to a company just churning out minimum viable products most years is generally not a good thing for that industry.

Hopefully this is the beginning of the CoD death spiral, although the release 2 years back was also completely panned and performed quite poorly, yet people still lined up to get the apparently much better BO6 last year.

Maybe they can only make a competent game every 2 years now.

This story plus the one involving NCSoft really highlights something interesting. These Asian countries will likely never have the moral objection to things like AI that people in the West do. So, do we just leave them to have a huge relative advantage in the creation of games?

@TrollOfWar So the subsidised consoles should be sold in the USA and Western Europe, right? Those are the territories that buy the most high margin items. Japan is famous for everyone using the PS5's to play F2P games like Genshin Impact and Apex Legends.

@cainhurst94 The statement came from a shareholder meeting, and was not intended as anything other than a strict financial related statement to people with a stake in the company.

The biggest issue I have with this is that there are plenty of third world countries in the world, and none of them get special subsidised consoles. A lot of the time they don't even get proper regional pricing in software, and that' can be discounted without incurring a loss.

@StrickenBiged It's because it's a subsidised console meant only for the japanese(Japanese Exceptionalism?).

Previously they just made the Japanese consoles cheaper than other regions, but then people in mainland Asia just bought Japanese consoles and imported them. A lot of PS5's, and very likely a huge number of Switch's, sold in Japan actually got exported to places like China.

I guess in Korea there’s no widespread moral objection to AI in Artistic fields….

This was 100% known, the other game was officially recognised by Guerilla Games years ago. It's made by an entirely new and separate team from The Mainline Horizon games though. They were openly recruiting for that team for years.

@Boxmonkey Yeah, it can't be the massive games catalogue that covers the entire PS4+PS5 generations, top quality controller(with best-in-class features), superfast SSD loading speeds on every game, cheap access to back catalogues via subscription services and the ability to play some of the greatest games ever created(Elden Ring, BG3 etc. etc.)

@KawakiisaFraud How does the games releasing on PC harm the objective quality of their output?

Are Capcom games worse because they release on every platform? Or is the metric for judging Sonys software output somehow different because they also make hardware?

@MrStark the facts do speak for themselves. I mean, the actual facts, not the subjective opinions you just subjected us to and then claimed were facts, as if the very meaning of the word "fact" was something beyond your comprehension.

Here's some facts :

This year Sony released Ghost of Yotei and Death Stranding 2.

Last year they released Helldivers 2, Stellar Blade and Astro Bot.

Next Year they plan to release Tokon, Saros and Wolverine.

Thats an absolute teir one release schedule that very few developers in the entire world can ever hope to match. If that doesn't meet your expectations then the issue might be a "you, not them problem". More likely you're just a other concern troll.

It looks like a very good version of what it is.

Combat looks very Monster Hunter-esque, which I think is a very good call.

I’ll probably try the game out at least.

I’m actually quite surprised they reduced the cosmetic prices, so that’s nice. Let’s see how much it is though.

I'm not instantly reviled by it's mere existence, but I likely won't ever play it.

@mary1 Do you think 100% of games can succeed? What exactly is your point? Some games doing poorly negates all the good ones?

Do you want a list of all the atrocious f2p shovelware gacha games Korea has produced in the last 5 years?

Is the Japanese industry doing terribly because they produced Foamstars, Exoprimal, Babylons fall and Resident Evil Re:verse?

Edit: I just realised you mentioned Dustborn, a game literally no one in the world has ever heard about or cared about except terminally online mega chuds that are obsessed with it over some asinine political statement they think its failure represents(rather than it just being a rubbish have no one cares about).It’s obviously not even a AAA game. Jog on now.

Edit 2: as I suspected, your post history is an hilarious collection of one dimensional culture warrior nonsense. Go watch some YouTube grifter so you can learn your next opinion.

I've not played it but I understand it's kind of a silly, lighter (&shorter) spinoff.

@jvecc I don't think I've ever actually played a video game on a couch. I think I tried once when I was ill and I couldn't make anything out. I guess you get used to it over time, to the point it would seem strange to play any other way. A good chair and a medium sized monitor seems hard to beat though.

This monitor seems to be very much aimed at the PC audience, and theres no way anyone should be buying a sub-4k monitor if your primarily playing on console.

What's with the weird subsidised gaming in Japan? Actual third world countries like Brazil and India don't even get subsidised consoles(as far as I'm aware) but the Japanese now do across the board.

@Vivisapprentice So when you said AAA instead of Indie you weren't talking about the size of the game? That doesn't make sense.

Also, games like Clair Obscur and Arc Raiders are published by other companies and not self published. So what meaning of indie are you using exactly?

Also, EA just released Battlefield 6 which might be the biggest selling game of the year. Oh and they also released Split Fiction this year, that "indie" game you were talking about.

@Vivisapprentice indies? Most of those games cost tens of millions of dollars to develop. Warhorse Studio is bigger than Sucker Punch.

BG3, Cyberpunk 2077, GTAVI, RDR2, God of War, Spider-man etc. There’s plenty of big AAA games from western Studios that are critically and commercially massively successful.

@Vivisapprentice Western Devs struggling? Didn’t they make Clair Obscur, Arc Raiders, Ghost of Yotei, Kingdom Come Deliverance 2, Hades II, Split Fiction etc. this year? Is that somehow inferior to making two 8/10 games in the last 3 years?

It looks like about 2/3rds of the player base is on PC, which is not surprising for this type of game.It gained more traction on console than I thought it would even.

People always read too much into these statements. I don't think it's meant as some specific timeline, but just a vague off-the-cuff statement.

@Toot1st the attachment rates of almost all games on PS/Xbox/PC will always be tiny since the user base is so diverse.

The average call of Duty game sells 30m units lifetime across all formats.Thats like 10%. Ghost Of Yotei will probably hit 10% on PS5.

@Max_the_German It’s actually not reverse chronological order, or at least not for me, it’s worse: it’s purely random(or more likely based on some kind of engagement algorithm)

@themightyant

People are racist, sexist, and send her death threats and she posts a, pretty amusing, image clapping back at incel tears... good for her. Not sure what you think is wrong with that.

The truly ridiculous part is that it's the people that will normally shout from the rooftops about freedom of speech and censorship that wanted to cancel the game because an actress posted a meme that hurt their feelings.

3rd really. Wii Sports doesn’t count surely.

2028/29 seems reasonable

@rjejr

I think I know who they're catering too

The 75m PS5 owners that don't live in Japan?

@ShadowofSparta a sample of thousands is actually massive. A poll that is used to predict political elections will be less than a thousand and they can predict the outcome within about 5% like 95% of the time.

@RoomWithaMoose Those samples are sufficiently large that you wouldn't expect any deviation from then due to the sample size.

Therefore roughly twice as many users of this site bought it than had been planning to before hand.

Sony almost never release games after October. I think Ragnarok strayed into early November but don’t recall many more.

@tselliot

My experience is if an employer requires no cause to fire you, that's exactly what they'll do, fire you with no cause given

Are you American by chance? These employees were longterm full-time employees in the United Kingdom(+3 in Canadaland). They absolutely could not be fired with no cause.

Also, a lot of people are being a little bit ignorant with the idea Rockstar must have had due cause, otherwise they'll get in trouble over it. The legal process will take years, and they'll make sure it takes as long as possible using any legal tactics possible, and by the time any judgment is made it would be irrelevant. Their primary purpose will be dissuading unionisation in the short term and ensure their mega crunch can continue on schedule to get their game out the door on time. If they get their $10b golden goose out the gate then why are they going to care about some employee remuneration 4 years from now?

I was about to buy a replacement Surface Arc touch mouse yesterday, when I saw you can get the Chinese knock-off ones on ebay for like 20% of the price. So I ordered one, I'm now part of the problem. I'm really curious about how bad the quality will be.

Q&A and debugging do not seem like the worst jobs in the world to hand over to AI. There will still be people in charge of the key feedback, so it seems like it would mostly remove the drudgery from the lowest level workers.

At the same time, there’s definitely examples of people starting in QA and working up to the top creative positions. I believe Arkane Founder Raphael Colantonio started out in QA.

This seems like a pretty easy to read situation. Rockstar wanted to smash the unionisation attempt but they needed grounds to do so, and they thought the disclosure of information in the private discord group was sufficient grounds.

I suspect it won't actually hold up in legal proceedings though, certainly not for every single member of the group, even ones that didn't make the statements.

It simply gives them the veneer of legality though, and the message sent to employees is loud and clear regardless of whether or not they end up having to compensate those fired or even get penalised.

It seems that in an attempt to lean into the old school leanings of this game they decided to do the physical edition as just 2 guys in a garage, like they would have back in the good old days.

I was expecting this to just be a link to the list of games, but no, that is in fact all 2,800 games listed right there. Actually more useful than the official site though.

@MyPadIsMyWeapon

Best game I have played in years.

Another dude who made his first and only ever post to declare Arc Raiders the best game he’s played in years. It’s weird how often this happens on so many websites.

@chuffie Or lets try another more specific example.

Let’s say, 100 voice actors signup to a company making a program that requires them to work for a few days training an AI and then after that their voice can be replicated forever, and to get access to this you just need to buy a license from the AI operator and then can use the “Text to Speech” function with any of the pre-set 100 voices.

Now a company making a game can use this program for a small license fee or they can pay for dozens of actors.

How will this affect the industry? Let’s say the amount of voice actors being supported by the industry now drop 50%, i.e. 50% of voice actors are now unemployed.

However, those original 100 actors all signed up to this agreement knowing what it meant. Therefore it’s ok.

Edit: Hhaha, I just realised the only comments you’ve ever posted in the entire history of this website are the 2 you made here defending Embark. Not sure if you’re an Embark Shill or an AI shill, but either way you’re not the hero of this story, chap.

@chuffie So if your boss comes to you next week and tells you that you will only need to work, and get paid for, one day a week now and the other 4 will be done by the AI trained on your work, you will be ok with that?

If not then I’m sure they’d be able to get someone else to do the one day a week job and sign up for their work to be copied by AI, with the worker having full prior knowledge and agreement.

Maybe, eventually the whole industry works like that, with only 1/5th a day workers and now the industry only supports 1/5th of the people before. It’s ok, though, right? Because the guys that signed up to that agreement knew what they were signing up to, even if, let’s say, 70% of the industry didn’t sign up to it. The fact they’re still affected by it is probably just not important, right?

@chuffie Yes, they hire people to say some lines and then they use AI to replicate those voices and create new lines whenever they want to, without ever hiring any additional voice acting work. I'm pretty sure everyone gets exactly how it works.

It's basically hiring someone for a days work, instead of, say, 10, and then using AI to generate the other 9 days of work.

If you're against AI replacing people in creative roles then you should be against this. If you're not against that, then fine. It's more about applying these morals consistently.