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Oh hell yes. £63 for Extra? That's insane value.

Can you stack these do people know?

If you use the vouchers from ShopTo then a year of Extra costs £70. I will literally not have to spend any money on a game in 2023 beyond that. Fantastic value for someone like me who missed all these titles first time round.

I reckon it's like when you spend 2 hours cooking a meal. You lose perspective and end up a bit underwhelmed in your creation, thinking of all the stuff you could have done differently or added to it, even though everyone else loves it.

@LiamCroft Sounded too good, thanks for the clarification. I guess the answer is to keep an eye on that 'last chance to play' section or whatever it's called.

@thefourfoldroot1 It's perfect for people like me who never had a PS4. I can imagine though that if you are up to date with releases then it is a harder sell. I wonder if they will add more games like Stray on Day One or whether that was a one-off?

@TaMpA_bLaCk Really? So everyone who claimed Red Dead 2 for example before that left still have access to it? That's pretty great then. If you delete it for space can you redownload it though in the future?

The rotation is a necessary evil of the subscription model but it is one of the reasons I've never really been a fan of the industry moving in this direction. Extra is still brilliant value but I do fear the day that I am 50 hours deep into some RPG only to see it disappear before I reach the end.

@JB_Whiting Cheers, as first response I am going with your suggestion. Although I am pretty sure it will look amazing whatever option!

This is why I don't like PC gaming - I'm too stupid to understand which settings I need so I want the console to make decisions for me.

I have a 4k HDR telly - but a cheap one (no idea about VRR). What do I go for?

You can argue about whether or not the price is right for the tech that you are getting, but for me the question is why has Sony gone down the premium, high cost road? They must know there is no chance of VR cutting through into the mainstream at this price. No chance of this outselling PSVR 1 so I'm really not sure what they are trying to achieve. Seems a waste of resources to me.

Recession? What recession!

@trev666 You don't need an Xbox for MS rewards and you can buy Playstation credit? I had no idea you could do that. How does that work then?

@Americansamurai1 Not sure about across the pond but in the UK we use the word "scheme" interchangeably with "program", it has no negative connotations in this context.

I thought the original was pretty much spot on, perhaps just a smidge too long, so this sounds about right.

3.5 hours of cutscenes though.... eurgh.

It was great but I don't need to see any more. I was already sold on God of War as soon as it was announced, anything else is an unnecessary spoiler.

Seems a bit generous. It was fine, nothing amazing. God of War looks great but then we knew that didn't we? Don't remember the release dates for most of the games being particular near either, one at least was a vague 2024 (I forget which).

Overall, a bit meh.

This is all well and good but it unfortunately becomes irrelevant when they announce a £400 price point.

Why not make it free to play at this point, I mean what do they have to lose?

Wow, I would have hoped things like this and Anthem would have put people like Sony off of the whole GaaS thing, but unfortunately they sound intent on going all in.

@Gamer_Guy I feel exactly the same. I have stopped buying games almost completely (other than in a ridiculous sale or unmissable titles like Silksong when it comes) and I worry about the knock on effect to developers of these Indie titles in particular. Before I would have bought Deaths Door and other's of that size and quality but now I just wait. I really should be supporting the teams that make them and I really hope games like this don't disappear as they are no longer profitable.

I really want to play Death's Door but am paranoid about buying anything these days in case it suddenly appears on PS+ Extra.

Looks like more of the same but I'm not complaining. Other than some minor pacing issues and a fairly uninteresting postgame I'm not really sure how they could improve from the first one.

@LiamCroft I fully agree that Deathloop is the headline this month. Extra is going from strength to strength and even Essential has picked up. Premium however...

Saw the photo of Deathloop and got excited. Never mind, It's time for me to upgrade to Extra I reckon.

PS Plus Extra is absolutely killing it. Can't ignore it any longer, I'm signing up tonight. I just hope these games hang around and don't start getting cycled out before I've had a chance to play them all.

@get2sammyb I'll go first. As a PS+ subscriber I already have access to the remastered version. I have never played the game before so is this new one worth shelling out for or do I stick with the copy I already have?

This is going to be 200 quid isn't it.

@Sil_Am I'll give you one guess as to where your PlayStation is made.

I think I Kickstartered this? I was drawn in by the Hollow Knight vibes.

Let's be kind and call this an homage, but seriously why are people so desperate to hate on this game? Give it a chance. There is nothing I want more than for Sonic to be great again.

Inevitable but disappointing nonetheless. Is a full blown Astro game on PS5 (not VR) too much to ask? Or at least playable on both. I can't be bothered with the VR stuff (let alone the extra expense) and I can't be alone it that?

What a ridiculous headline and article. Aren't we all meant to be video game fans here? Since when is a new trailer for the new game of one of the most iconic characters in history something to be "subjected" to? If you are not looking forward to the game then fine go write something else, but some of us are still giving this the benefit of the doubt. I want the game to be great and I welcome the opportunity for a new trailer to get us all excited again

@zupertramp Yes it's still a digital code even for disc version PS5. That way you can't immediately trade it in you see...

I don't really know who Geoff Keighley is or who appointed him Pope of Video Games. All I know is I want him to go away.

@J2theEzzo @Thrillho @Wolfie_Pie Thanks all, looking forward to giving it a go.

I've never played a Yakuza game before but have always been tempted, would Like a Dragon be a good place to start?

Now that's more like it! For anyone who hasn't played Little Nightmares I strongly recommend it. It's a Limbo/Inside style of game that's genuinely creepy with some horrific characters. Whisper it but enjoyed it more than Inside.

@MightyDemon82 If you only get one then get the third one "Zelda Encyclopaedia". The second one (Art & Artifacts) is pure art so whilst beautiful there are no words or info to go with it.

@Dezzy70 That's a good point so I googled it and found this from PushSquare in May:

"Horizon Forbidden West has come top of the newest weekly UK sales chart documenting physical purchases thanks to the latest PS5 hardware bundle offered by Sony. While the official bundle only included a code for a digital download, Chris Dring of GamesIndustry.biz has clarified GfK counts codes supplied in bundles as physical sales. As a result, the PlayStation exclusive takes first place."

@MightyDemon82 Dark Horse published the fantastic trio of Zelda art books which I have on my coffee table, they really are wonderful.

As for Forbidden West I'm not saying it is undeserving of success, just that calling it the top-seller is a bit misleading.

@Danloaded It's because it's bundled with new PS5s so pretty much everyone who buys a new console is getting a copy whether they want one or not.

How can you include a steelbook but not the disc? That is so stupid. They really don't want you trading in do they?

For the first time last month I didn't even bother to claim anything (already have God of War with the PS+ collection on PS5). Thankfully I had been holding off getting Crash 4 so I'm chuffed that's up next.

@Voltan Fair enough, I stand corrected (serves me right for not googling to check). The intention was that it was full of PS4 games though so I had no expectation that free upgrades would be a given. What I do find annoying with the collection is when you have a situation with something like Persona 5 or FFXV but you can't pay an upgrade fee for the Royal editions (I don't think you can anyway, I haven't checked so please correct me if I am wrong again).

Fair enough. It is called "the PS4 collection" after all. Would have been a nice bonus but not a big deal.

For the same price you can buy a whole year of PS+ Extra which includes TLoU Remastered. I know which I'd rather spend my money on.

Lego Star Wars on sale already? Surprising given how it's been constantly at the top of the charts since release. Was planning on getting it cheap in a few months time but may take the plunge sooner now.

This has to be reversed. I can only assume they will come out and say it's a computer glitch that calculated the difference owing by looking at the purchase price instead of the standard price. They may just get away with it if they do it quickly. Let this linger though and the reputational damage will be done.

@themuckman Agreed, the games you mentioned are easily worth price of admission alone. Valhalla is part of the Ubisoft classics range and bizarrely is the only AC game (so far) but is generous nonetheless. Guardians of the Galaxy is a great addition too. The only thing that worries me is how long the games will hang about on the service? Imagine being 80 hours into RDR2 and then it disappears one month.

The Premium tier isn't much to write home about but the Extra tier is looking really healthy already. That's a pretty great line up if you ask me.