Genuine PSA in case people don't know this: The game is £70 if you want it digitally from PS Store and Shopto.net are selling £70 top-up cards for just £60.85 (even less if you are a reward member). That's a massive saving for you right from Day One.
Don't get me wrong, I've never paid 70 quid for a game and don't plan to anytime soon, but it's funny what people assign value to. Have you gone out to a restaurant with your partner lately? I guarantee you that cost £70 at least and your meal didn't take four years and 100+ people to make it.
Is this just a US thing? Here in the UK Outer Worlds 2 on the PS Store costs £70, exactly the same as Sony's first party games. So not really sure what the issue is other than the fact that it is not as cheap as Mario Kart World (£67 on the eshop).
@Darude84 Exactly, if they had written an article about how it was 'Sony's best show in years' then that would have been fair enough. Instead they choose to state as fact that it was an unerringly, earth-shatteringly, unbelievable behemoth of a show that changes the face of video games as we know it. All that does is antagonise people and encourage them to go completely the other way and claim it was utterly awful and signals the end of Sony as we know it.
In reality of course the State of Play sits well between these extremes. Yes I know that is how the internet works but there is no need to fan the flames like this writer does.
It was fine, 7 out of 10 (add an extra mark if you like 2D beat 'em ups). The reaction shows how bad previous presentations were, rather than how good this one was.
I absolutely loved Arranger so just a PSA for anyone thinking of picking it up: It is free via the Netflix app so give it a go if you haven't already. Works brilliantly on your phone, no need for a controller.
@get2sammyb It is clearly not a win for players, but there is a scenario where Microsoft's decision to pretty much go multi-format at this point could have been influenced by the FTC's ongoing action. Maybe I am giving them too much credit but even if they did not win their case, perhaps it is (partly) the reason we can now play Forza Horizon on PS5? Hopefully it has put to bed any ideas Microsoft may have had about gatekeeping their newly acquired catalogue.
@DDDD Sammy is an utter embarrassment at this point with his unwavering defence of live service and gatcha games. Every article he writes reads like a Hoyoverse press release, it's absolutely sickening.
What difference does it make? The only reasons most of us buy physical is a) if the disc is cheaper than the download, or b) so that we can sell it on afterwards. In the case of Doom both these things remain true so if all the disc does is initialise a download then so what?
I understand the game preservation angle but for how many of us is that genuinely ever going to be a problem for?
Thank goodness Sony always reinvent the wheel every time with their new console releases and don't just bring out the same old box each time only more powerful. Oh wait.......
If you released those games together as a single package then good luck trying to claim it's worth $350. That's about $30 per title. Look again at the list and tell me how many are worth $30? Just Dragon Age I reckon.
I have checked (thank you Deku Deals) and if you add up the cheapest price each title has been available for (which I believe is a much better indicator of value), then it comes to just £121 (about $157). Still more than the asking price but hardly worth writing home about.
How exactly is this "so impressive"? A statue, a key ring and a couple of art cards are the only physical items you get. Absolute bog standard Special Edition stuff. In fact if anything this seems to have less than most.
I will never understand this cult of Kojima thing people seem to buy into. Surprised it doesn't come with a free bottle of Kool-Aid.
@themightyant You are welcome. I know people like me are the worst but I am always happy to be corrected on stuff like this. Like when it turned out I was misusing the word "nauseous".
The Lost Crown is absolutely brilliant. It's a bargain at full price but is regularly on sale for about £18 and I would urge everyone to give it a go at that amount. It's rammed with content, plays beautifully and whilst perhaps not the most original it still does have some really great ideas of its own. Seriously if you like Metroidvanias you will not find much better than this one.
@get2sammyb We get it, you only like gatcha games. The rest of us though prefer carefully crafted complete experiences to being rinsed to the teeth for every penny we have for as long as they possible can.
@czDante92 I'm tempted to try Ishin as I thought that looked pretty interesting. Not really played a Yakuza game but thought I would be fine to jump in here given it is a completely different setting to the others so I shouldn't be missing out by not having knowledge of the rest of the series?
"international readers should know that the government in question is largely inept" - Please do not state your own political opinion as fact. I do not come hear to have other people's politics rammed down my throat. This isn't the BBC (some free satire for you there).
@LogicStrikesAgain What you are forgetting though is what this means for consoles going forwards. Yes the PS5 Pro is only an option and most of us can happily ignore it and buy the base models instead, but the fear is that this sort of price point sets a precedent as to what the base PS6 is going to cost. If Sony feel they can get away with charging 700 quid for a digital only console (be it Pro or otherwise) you can bet they will translate that to future generations and that is where the trouble begins.
For me it is exactly the same deal as the PSVR2. A nice piece of kit and a no-brainer if money is no object. Arguably worth the money given the tech but for most of us the price tag is just too darn high to justify it.
I can only assume Push Square is now the official advertising branch of HoYoverse? Seems like every other day we get another cringey, sycophantic puff piece. Enough already.
Wasn't this already free to play? I have it in my library but certainly never paid for it. Does it have an active community does anyone know? I know it wasn't wildly successful but I don't remember hearing much about it completely tanking so hopefully it managed to find an audience.
@Broad-Spectrum The duels were fun but when it came to beating most enemies all you did was switch to the right stance and then keep hammering them to until their guard broke. It didn't require any real thought unfortunately. There was certainly potential and maybe it's on me for not engaging enough with the options available but I still enjoyed the game, i just think combat could be improved with a few tweaks.
@Nepp67 Yeah I know, but hopefully it is not a major part of the game. Presumably any firearms of this era would be really slow and cumbersome so hopefully any gun you have is just a one-shot deal with very limited ammo that doesn't get in the way of the sword fighting.
Can't wait for this one. Loved the original. I'll admit taking out yet another camp did get repetitive, especially as the combat wasn't all that exciting, but one thing I do hope they expand upon is the platforming sections which I really enjoyed. Hopefully more opportunities too to just enjoy exploring and stumble across a shrine or temple.
No guns though please - I know we are further in the future now but that isn't what I want from a samurai game.
Whether or not the technology justifies the price tag is completely missing the point, exactly the same as it did with the PSVR2. The problem is Sony having the gall to rinse the whales of 700 quid upwards for very little tangible reward, even if that is a fair price for all the extra terryfloops. The whole sorry affair just reeks of arrogance and whatever the noun for being out of touch is.
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Re: Switch 2 Can't Achieve a Great Experience on Big Screens, PS5 Boss Implies
The majesty of Concord can only truly be appreciated on the big screen.
Re: Xbox to Blame for The Outer Worlds 2's Devastating $80 PS5 Price Point
Genuine PSA in case people don't know this:
The game is £70 if you want it digitally from PS Store and Shopto.net are selling £70 top-up cards for just £60.85 (even less if you are a reward member). That's a massive saving for you right from Day One.
Re: Xbox to Blame for The Outer Worlds 2's Devastating $80 PS5 Price Point
Only 12%? If that was accurate that would equate to over 9 million copies sold at full price at launch. That would be an incredible success.
Re: 'Good Luck with That' - The Outer Worlds 2 $80 Price Has Gone Down Horribly with PS5 Players
Don't get me wrong, I've never paid 70 quid for a game and don't plan to anytime soon, but it's funny what people assign value to. Have you gone out to a restaurant with your partner lately? I guarantee you that cost £70 at least and your meal didn't take four years and 100+ people to make it.
Re: 'Good Luck with That' - The Outer Worlds 2 $80 Price Has Gone Down Horribly with PS5 Players
Is this just a US thing? Here in the UK Outer Worlds 2 on the PS Store costs £70, exactly the same as Sony's first party games. So not really sure what the issue is other than the fact that it is not as cheap as Mario Kart World (£67 on the eshop).
Re: Sounds Like Switch 2 May Have Obliterated PS5's Launch Record in France
I'm the biggest Nintendo fanboy there is but surely this is just down to the amount of stock that was available?
Re: Hollow Knight: Silksong Is Coming Out Before Holiday 2025, Team Cherry Confirms
The most incredible part of this story is that Team Cherry actually have a Marketing rep.
Re: PS5's Brilliant New State of Play Breaks Records for Sony
@Darude84 Exactly, if they had written an article about how it was 'Sony's best show in years' then that would have been fair enough. Instead they choose to state as fact that it was an unerringly, earth-shatteringly, unbelievable behemoth of a show that changes the face of video games as we know it. All that does is antagonise people and encourage them to go completely the other way and claim it was utterly awful and signals the end of Sony as we know it.
In reality of course the State of Play sits well between these extremes. Yes I know that is how the internet works but there is no need to fan the flames like this writer does.
Re: PS5's Brilliant New State of Play Breaks Records for Sony
It was fine, 7 out of 10 (add an extra mark if you like 2D beat 'em ups). The reaction shows how bad previous presentations were, rather than how good this one was.
Re: PS5's Brilliant New State of Play Breaks Records for Sony
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Re: 60+ PS5, PS4 Games You Should Buy in PS Store's Summer Game Fest Sale
I absolutely loved Arranger so just a PSA for anyone thinking of picking it up: It is free via the Netflix app so give it a go if you haven't already. Works brilliantly on your phone, no need for a controller.
Re: State of Play Confirmed for 4th June, 40+ Minutes of PS5 Games
I forget how it works, is "State of Play" the third party one? Still, it will give me something to watch as I wait for the Switch 2 midnight launch.
Re: Days of Play 2025 - All the Best PS5, PS5 Pro, PS Plus, PS5 Game Deals
@Quintumply That's a nifty little widget you've created for the top-up cards. Kudos.
Re: It's Over! FTC Drops Its Case Against Microsoft's Activision Buyout
@get2sammyb It is clearly not a win for players, but there is a scenario where Microsoft's decision to pretty much go multi-format at this point could have been influenced by the FTC's ongoing action. Maybe I am giving them too much credit but even if they did not win their case, perhaps it is (partly) the reason we can now play Forza Horizon on PS5? Hopefully it has put to bed any ideas Microsoft may have had about gatekeeping their newly acquired catalogue.
Re: 10 More PS Plus Extra, Premium Titles Out Now on PS5, PS4
Deeply regret stacking three years of PS Plus a while back. Counting down the days until I can finally cancel.
Re: Like It or Loathe It, This Is Why Sony Won't Stop Trying to Make Live Service Games for PS5
@DDDD Sammy is an utter embarrassment at this point with his unwavering defence of live service and gatcha games. Every article he writes reads like a Hoyoverse press release, it's absolutely sickening.
Re: Reaction: Game Key PS5 Discs Are a Disgrace, and Sony Should Put a Stop to Them
What difference does it make? The only reasons most of us buy physical is a) if the disc is cheaper than the download, or b) so that we can sell it on afterwards. In the case of Doom both these things remain true so if all the disc does is initialise a download then so what?
I understand the game preservation angle but for how many of us is that genuinely ever going to be a problem for?
Re: GTA 6 Delayed to 2026, Out on 26th May 2026
GTA VI wisely moving out of the way of Kirby Air Riders
Re: Xbox Now Selling PS5 Games for $80, Joins Switch 2 in Price Increase
So are we all going to pretend Sony weren't the first to start charging £70 for games? No one can claim any high ground here.
Re: Nintendo Is Losing Its Identity, Says Ex-PlayStation Boss
Thank goodness Sony always reinvent the wheel every time with their new console releases and don't just bring out the same old box each time only more powerful. Oh wait.......
Re: Feature: PS5's Not Perfect, But Here Are 5 Ways It's More Consumer Friendly Than Switch 2
Just a reminder you are defending a company that charges £700 for a PS5 Pro that does not even come with a stand or a disc drive.
Re: Legendary Trophy Hunting Game My Name Is Mayo Returns with New PS5 Remaster
Question: Have you ever been impressed by someone else's virtual trophy list?
Answer: No, of course not, because you are a rational human being. Some folks really are pathetic.
Re: PS Plus Essential Is Quietly Having a Great Year on PS5, PS4
If you released those games together as a single package then good luck trying to claim it's worth $350. That's about $30 per title. Look again at the list and tell me how many are worth $30? Just Dragon Age I reckon.
I have checked (thank you Deku Deals) and if you add up the cheapest price each title has been available for (which I believe is a much better indicator of value), then it comes to just £121 (about $157). Still more than the asking price but hardly worth writing home about.
Re: Death Stranding 2 PS5 Collector's Edition So Impressive It Gets Its Own Trailer
How exactly is this "so impressive"? A statue, a key ring and a couple of art cards are the only physical items you get. Absolute bog standard Special Edition stuff. In fact if anything this seems to have less than most.
I will never understand this cult of Kojima thing people seem to buy into. Surprised it doesn't come with a free bottle of Kool-Aid.
Re: 12 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for March 2025 Announced
I bought Prince of Persia for £17 in a sale and have no regrets even though I could have got it for free if I waited. The game is so damn good.
Elsewhere not much, but I've heard good things about Arcade Paradise so will check that out.
Re: Random: Dark Souls 2 Fans Unwilling to Relinquish Established Acronym to Death Stranding 2
@AhmadSumadi Exactly. Sounds like we're married to the same person!
Re: Random: Dark Souls 2 Fans Unwilling to Relinquish Established Acronym to Death Stranding 2
@themightyant You are welcome. I know people like me are the worst but I am always happy to be corrected on stuff like this. Like when it turned out I was misusing the word "nauseous".
Re: Random: Dark Souls 2 Fans Unwilling to Relinquish Established Acronym to Death Stranding 2
@Kienda Very true though I've been called far worse acronyms than that!😃
Re: Random: Dark Souls 2 Fans Unwilling to Relinquish Established Acronym to Death Stranding 2
DS2 is not an acronym as it does not form a new word (like SCUBA or RADAR). It is an initialism.
The more you know!
Re: Carmen Sandiego Puts Stealth Action on PS5, PS4 Today
£25? It is free on the Netflix app.
Re: Round Up: Civilization 7 Reviews Are Glowing Ahead of PS5 Launch
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Re: Ubisoft Marks One Year of Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown Despite Killing the Studio
The Lost Crown is absolutely brilliant. It's a bargain at full price but is regularly on sale for about £18 and I would urge everyone to give it a go at that amount. It's rammed with content, plays beautifully and whilst perhaps not the most original it still does have some really great ideas of its own. Seriously if you like Metroidvanias you will not find much better than this one.
Re: Horizon's MMO Appears to Have Been Cancelled
@get2sammyb We get it, you only like gatcha games. The rest of us though prefer carefully crafted complete experiences to being rinsed to the teeth for every penny we have for as long as they possible can.
Re: Reaction: Sony's Live Service Push Has Been a Disaster of Utterly Insane Proportions
Good article, however I look forward to the inevitable half dozen Sammy articles later today telling us how brilliant all the Gatcha games are.
Re: No Duos Allowed in Elden Ring: Nightreign's Take on Battle Royale
"Five is right out!"
Re: 17 Games Land on PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Week
@czDante92 I'm tempted to try Ishin as I thought that looked pretty interesting. Not really played a Yakuza game but thought I would be fine to jump in here given it is a completely different setting to the others so I shouldn't be missing out by not having knowledge of the rest of the series?
Re: 17 Games Land on PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Week
"Oh good I don't actually own GTA V and can finally get to play it", said no-one.
Re: Australia's Planned Social Media Ban to Include PSN
"international readers should know that the government in question is largely inept" - Please do not state your own political opinion as fact. I do not come hear to have other people's politics rammed down my throat. This isn't the BBC (some free satire for you there).
Re: Round Up: PS5 Pro Reviews Love New Tech and a Glimpse of PS6 Potential
@LogicStrikesAgain What you are forgetting though is what this means for consoles going forwards. Yes the PS5 Pro is only an option and most of us can happily ignore it and buy the base models instead, but the fear is that this sort of price point sets a precedent as to what the base PS6 is going to cost. If Sony feel they can get away with charging 700 quid for a digital only console (be it Pro or otherwise) you can bet they will translate that to future generations and that is where the trouble begins.
Re: Round Up: PS5 Pro Reviews Love New Tech and a Glimpse of PS6 Potential
For me it is exactly the same deal as the PSVR2. A nice piece of kit and a no-brainer if money is no object. Arguably worth the money given the tech but for most of us the price tag is just too darn high to justify it.
Re: Gigantic Zenless Zone Zero PS5 Update Brings More Wallet-Busting Waifus, Tons of Events
I can only assume Push Square is now the official advertising branch of HoYoverse? Seems like every other day we get another cringey, sycophantic puff piece. Enough already.
Re: The Maker of It Takes Two Has Teased Its Next Game, and Its Name Possibly Just Leaked
Spam Javelin!
Re: Metaphor: ReFantazio (PS5) - Brilliant, Memorable RPG Is One of Atlus' Finest Works
@ShogunRok Is this another 100 hour plus behemoth? I wanted to try Persona 5 but the sheer length of it put me off even attempting it.
Re: By the Way, Foamstars Is Now Free-to-Play on PS5, PS4
Wasn't this already free to play? I have it in my library but certainly never paid for it. Does it have an active community does anyone know? I know it wasn't wildly successful but I don't remember hearing much about it completely tanking so hopefully it managed to find an audience.
Re: Ghost of Yotei's Gorgeous Open World Will Be Less Repetitive Than Tsushima's
@Broad-Spectrum The duels were fun but when it came to beating most enemies all you did was switch to the right stance and then keep hammering them to until their guard broke. It didn't require any real thought unfortunately. There was certainly potential and maybe it's on me for not engaging enough with the options available but I still enjoyed the game, i just think combat could be improved with a few tweaks.
Re: Ghost of Yotei's Gorgeous Open World Will Be Less Repetitive Than Tsushima's
@Nepp67 Yeah I know, but hopefully it is not a major part of the game. Presumably any firearms of this era would be really slow and cumbersome so hopefully any gun you have is just a one-shot deal with very limited ammo that doesn't get in the way of the sword fighting.
Re: Ghost of Yotei's Gorgeous Open World Will Be Less Repetitive Than Tsushima's
Can't wait for this one. Loved the original. I'll admit taking out yet another camp did get repetitive, especially as the combat wasn't all that exciting, but one thing I do hope they expand upon is the platforming sections which I really enjoyed. Hopefully more opportunities too to just enjoy exploring and stumble across a shrine or temple.
No guns though please - I know we are further in the future now but that isn't what I want from a samurai game.
Re: Gran Turismo 7 Will Experiment with 8K, 60fps on PS5 Pro
Anyone else remember when the PS5 was revealed they were talking about 120fps?
Re: 'It Makes Sense Why the PS5 Pro Price Is So High,' Say Tech Experts
Whether or not the technology justifies the price tag is completely missing the point, exactly the same as it did with the PSVR2. The problem is Sony having the gall to rinse the whales of 700 quid upwards for very little tangible reward, even if that is a fair price for all the extra terryfloops. The whole sorry affair just reeks of arrogance and whatever the noun for being out of touch is.
Re: Don't Worry, You Can Add an Ultra HD Disc Drive to PS5 Pro
@Shalooda I make it in the office and then try and smuggle it home without her noticing. I am yet to be successful.