That's right Sony give them a Bloodborne remaster and tell them if they want Bloodborne 2 they need to buy the PS6.
Seriously though people say but console prices are going up but they ignore the fact PC prices are going up as well when people have even less disposable income. It's definitely worth a try to entice some players into their ecosystem, the latest findings from ESA said that Gen Z are likely to choose console over PC anyway.
@__jamiie Yep crazy. Looking ahead and theorising 10 to 15 years from now just to ignore the fact the Xbox console is already cooked in the here and now. 🤣 Good one though. 👍
And FYI Xbox is essentially already an app on PC and nobody wants it lol.
@MFTWrecks I would argue a good story can enhance any game but it just seems really hard to do in racing games for some reason and pacing is really important if you're even going to try in a racing game.
@PuppetMaster Probably just marketing speak from Sony because Returnal is more like a really high quality AA game. It obviously had a small budget and definitely had a small Dev team at the time.
Well Sony obviously thought it was successful enough to buy them and increase their Dev team and budget for their next game.
@__jamiie - "I really don't understand how any PlayStation fans consider selling more hardware a success in this day and age."
Probably because it prevents the death of the console. Xbox is all the proof you need of that.
Let's say they licence the Xbox name to PC manufacturers like you're suggesting but they'll obviously still just be PC's with an Xbox name slapped on. No more subsidising and Steam will just be the de facto storefront like on PC and Publishers will no longer need to make an Xbox version of their games, I mean why would they when they'll just be PC's.
I mean how crazy do you have to be to not realise Xbox consoles are actually just completely dead at that point lmao.
Cod is such a snoozefest these days so this trailer did absolutely nothing for me.
I look forward to the inevitable price increase though because that should go down well also when this fails to move the needle that'll probably be entertaining at least.
@jolteon23 That $50 million estimate is just a guess from someone on Reddit but they actually have no clue how much it cost. $50 million seems really low and Dragons Dogma apparently took 5 years to develop while FF7 Rebirth only took 3 years.
@Cry_Zero It was added in the update but you need to visit Roxanne. It is basically the original bunny outfit but red and without the piece of cloth that everyone made a big fuss about. There's another outfit as well.
I've been a gamer long enough to see this happen for quite a few games. They come out get a lukewarm reception and the majority of people who play the game think it was just okay/good then fast forward a few years and people start claiming the game is great.
Hilarious that people are even comparing this game to the The Order because at least that game had some decent gameplay.
Hellblade 2 is just some pretentious tripe that seems to have flopped badly on PC as well with even less of a peak concurrent than Hi-fi and even Redfall lol.
Apparently Shinobi602 said that big changes are coming when people were talking about a price increase and tier change so hopefully this move kills gamepass and makes cod less relevant.
Nice and according to Jez Corden's latest article over on windows central or the insider gaming article, everything is coming to playstation, even Halo infinite.
Lol, the haters, mainly Xbox fans are trying too hard to spin this into something bad and it seems I ruffled some feathers with my comments from yesterday so how about I ruffle a few more. Xbox only managed about 800k on their last quarter lmao at this rate I doubt they even crack 40 million by the end of the generation. It's Xbone all over again, actually it's worse so no amount of Phil's begging is going to stop Satya from scrapping the hardware this time.
@UltimateOtaku91 Yeah it is no surprise Christopher Dring said that developers are already questioning whether it is worth it to port to Xbox. PC & Nintendo are big markets though and at least they buy games.
Well it's Sony's choice. You may not like it but they get to pick and choose which markets they do business in so the PC Pirate Race aren't actually entitled to anything.
@Stickleman You need to read between the lines. Game budgets are increasing but subscription numbers are not and that is basically Xbox's only model these days.
Phil's special interview with IGN that's scheduled after the showcase is going to be interesting. He's either going to announce more games going to the competition or say cod isn't going into gamepass day one or maybe he will say cod is going in but he'll announce a price increase along with it.
They are trying to put more 1st party content into it but without a subscription number bump it means less profit. If Hellblade fails to make an impact on subs then Ninja Theory will probably be closed next as well.
Tango Gameworks was a good studio and deserved better than this. Hopefully Shinji hires some of them at his new studio and it's a shame he doesn't own the Evil Within IP. As others have said Ninja Theory will probably be next on the chopping block after Hellblade fails to make an impact.
Actually Xbox can suck it they've done nothing but make the industry worse.
@LordAinsley It was at Amazon for a couple of days but it just ended. It was called the Today's deals discount, Sonic Superstars was only £12.50 but I'm not sure how much Cyberpunk was because I already own it. It was definitely cheaper than £29 though because that's the price it went back up to
@Neither_scene Really? I never saw that in the leaks I remember someone saying one of their games cost 30 million are you sure you're not thinking of Ratchet selling 2.7 million copies by February 22?
Edit: Nevermind I found it and you were correct but that's only for Ratchet and probably has something to do with the cartoon graphics.
@get2sammyb Yeah Sony should have just ignored them. The mob was actually beginning to turn on each other over on Reddit. The real Helldivers fans were starting to get annoyed by the ones who just wanted to destroy the game and Arrowhead just for being affiliated with Sony.
@FullMetalWesker Basically all the big publishers expect you to create an account with them these days, it isn't something new and most of the people complaining just want something to complain about.
@UltimateOtaku91 Yep there's probably so few players in those countries that this was an easy decision to make and as long as Sony offers the people in those countries a refund if they want one then I don't see the problem.
It also means anyone who is still crying about it in the countries where PSN is supported can't pretend they're angry on their behalf anymore and will embarrass themselves even further if they keep having a temper tantrum over it.
Looking at that list of countries I doubt there's actually many people playing Helldivers in any of them. Anyone from those countries should be able to get a refund if they want one, or if they've already made a PSN with a different region already they can just keep playing if they want but the Karen's who are complaining about creating a PSN in the countries it is actually supported in, need to get a grip.
@wiiware When was the last time PSN got hacked? I think people are confusing the hacks on Sony's other divisions like Sony pictures and even the recent insomniac hack was just the studio and had nothing to do with PSN.
Forgive me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure the last PSN hack was back in 2011 so 13 years ago back when PSN was actually free so the PSN security and infrastructure was cheaply run back then.
This whole thing has been blown out of proportion, the only people who have a legitimate reason to be annoyed are the ones who are in a country where PSN isn't available and even then Sony may come up with a workaround. The rest of the people who are just angry because they have to make another account are clutching their pearls, especially when all the major publishers already require one, Rockstar, EA, Microsoft, Ubisoft, Blizzard and Epic etc and some of them even need launchers but somehow now that Sony wants to join the list it warrants a meltdown online from a bunch of drama queens.
@NEStalgia Haven't you learnt anything yet? History is written by the winners, seriously though I doubt barely anyone cared who was in charge before the PS4 era, I know I didn't, actually I still don't but I'm thinking yeah he'll still probably be credited by the blue bloods as you put it with getting Halo on playstation, that's if it actually happens this gen even if nothing he did actually caused it.
@NEStalgia It doesn't matter how it went down, when people look back Jim will get the credit for it even if it is undeserved. Selective memory will play its part.
@Nepp67 Were fans asking them not to port anything else because of the success of the show or something? Because I'm not surprised that didn't work if that's the case.
@NEStalgia Nevermind Jim will still be remembered as a hero. Well that's if Jez Corden's latest tweets and comments are correct about everything coming to playstation, even Forza and Halo, lol.
Jason Schreier said that the twisted metal game was never in development. According to him it never made it past the planning phase because Sony wouldn't give Firesprite the greenlight to start work on it and Firesprite's next game is rumoured to be a horror game.
Yeah I remember reading an article around the time everyone was saying Foamstars wasn't doing well where Square said going forward they are going to start focusing more on Quality than Quantity.
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Re: Sony Invites Public to Play Insane, Massive PS5 Pinball Machine
Okay that's cool and I wonder which lucky employee at Sony gets to keep it when the marketing is all wrapped up.
Maybe they should make some normal sized ones and sell them on playstation direct because I'd probably buy one.
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Swings 11 Million Sales as Sony Calls PS5 Exclusive a 'Great Success'
@glennthefrog There's also more expensive deluxe editions and collectors editions with the venom statue.
Re: Sony Plans to Convert PC Gamers Through the Power of PlayStation
@Savage_Joe I was talking about hardware prices.
Re: Sony Plans to Convert PC Gamers Through the Power of PlayStation
That's right Sony give them a Bloodborne remaster and tell them if they want Bloodborne 2 they need to buy the PS6.
Seriously though people say but console prices are going up but they ignore the fact PC prices are going up as well when people have even less disposable income. It's definitely worth a try to entice some players into their ecosystem, the latest findings from ESA said that Gen Z are likely to choose console over PC anyway.
Re: Sony Plans to Convert PC Gamers Through the Power of PlayStation
@koffing Did they say PC after a year in this meeting? I didn't watch it but all their other singleplayer games have been about 2 years or more.
Re: PS5 Sales Trend Ahead of PS4 in US, Leads Console Market By 'Significant Margin'
@__jamiie There's no need to cry, it's not that deep and maybe don't comment if you don't like getting replies.
Re: PS5 Sales Trend Ahead of PS4 in US, Leads Console Market By 'Significant Margin'
@__jamiie Yep crazy. Looking ahead and theorising 10 to 15 years from now just to ignore the fact the Xbox console is already cooked in the here and now. 🤣 Good one though. 👍
And FYI Xbox is essentially already an app on PC and nobody wants it lol.
Re: Amazon Games Signs PS5 Open World Driving Title from Ex-Forza Horizon Devs
@MFTWrecks I would argue a good story can enhance any game but it just seems really hard to do in racing games for some reason and pacing is really important if you're even going to try in a racing game.
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Live-Action Trailer Revealed
@PuppetMaster Probably just marketing speak from Sony because Returnal is more like a really high quality AA game. It obviously had a small budget and definitely had a small Dev team at the time.
Well Sony obviously thought it was successful enough to buy them and increase their Dev team and budget for their next game.
Re: PS5 Sales Trend Ahead of PS4 in US, Leads Console Market By 'Significant Margin'
@__jamiie - "I really don't understand how any PlayStation fans consider selling more hardware a success in this day and age."
Probably because it prevents the death of the console. Xbox is all the proof you need of that.
Let's say they licence the Xbox name to PC manufacturers like you're suggesting but they'll obviously still just be PC's with an Xbox name slapped on. No more subsidising and Steam will just be the de facto storefront like on PC and Publishers will no longer need to make an Xbox version of their games, I mean why would they when they'll just be PC's.
I mean how crazy do you have to be to not realise Xbox consoles are actually just completely dead at that point lmao.
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Live-Action Trailer Revealed
@PuppetMaster I'm not sure about any of the other games but from the insomniac hack Returnal has sold over a million copies.
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Live-Action Trailer Revealed
@HonestHick True and let's hope there's not another 5 day early access scam this time yeah. 👍
Re: Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Live-Action Trailer Revealed
Cod is such a snoozefest these days so this trailer did absolutely nothing for me.
I look forward to the inevitable price increase though because that should go down well also when this fails to move the needle that'll probably be entertaining at least.
Re: Heist Shooter Fairgame$ on Track to Deliver AAA Multiplayer Experience for PS5, PC
We definitely need to see some actual gameplay for this.
Re: Dragon's Dogma 2 Tops an Impressive 3 Million Sales
@jolteon23 That $50 million estimate is just a guess from someone on Reddit but they actually have no clue how much it cost. $50 million seems really low and Dragons Dogma apparently took 5 years to develop while FF7 Rebirth only took 3 years.
Re: Rumour: New DOOM Game Reveal at Xbox Showcase, Coming to PS5
Well they've got no choice because Xbox is a dead platform.
Re: Rumour: Full Astro Bot PS5 Game to Be Announced Very Soon
@TrickyDicky99 Cheer up son, it might never happen.
Re: Rumour: Full Astro Bot PS5 Game to Be Announced Very Soon
Removed; user is banned
Re: Stellar Blade PS5 Patch 1.003 Is Live Now, Brings a Challenge Mode, New Outfits
@Cry_Zero It was added in the update but you need to visit Roxanne. It is basically the original bunny outfit but red and without the piece of cloth that everyone made a big fuss about. There's another outfit as well.
Re: Hideo Kojima Is Mad Max Director George Miller's First Choice for a Video Game Adaption
@Balosi The game is good but it was never great.
I've been a gamer long enough to see this happen for quite a few games. They come out get a lukewarm reception and the majority of people who play the game think it was just okay/good then fast forward a few years and people start claiming the game is great.
Re: Hideo Kojima Is Mad Max Director George Miller's First Choice for a Video Game Adaption
It seems the underrated mad max game is now overrated.
Re: Sony Sets Sights on Ruling the Anime World
@CutchuSlow Yeah there's anime on Amazon prime and Netflix as well.
Re: Soapbox: Once a PS4 Console Exclusive, PS5 Players Are Missing a Visual Stunner in Hellblade 2
@Sifi Gamepass doesn't change the fact it flopped worse than Redfall on Steam.
Re: Soapbox: Once a PS4 Console Exclusive, PS5 Players Are Missing a Visual Stunner in Hellblade 2
Hilarious that people are even comparing this game to the The Order because at least that game had some decent gameplay.
Hellblade 2 is just some pretentious tripe that seems to have flopped badly on PC as well with even less of a peak concurrent than Hi-fi and even Redfall lol.
Re: Microsoft Commits to Next Call of Duty Game on Xbox Game Pass, New Report Says
Apparently Shinobi602 said that big changes are coming when people were talking about a price increase and tier change so hopefully this move kills gamepass and makes cod less relevant.
Re: Hi-Fi Rush PS5 Physical Edition Is Still Happening Despite Studio Closure
Nice and according to Jez Corden's latest article over on windows central or the insider gaming article, everything is coming to playstation, even Halo infinite.
Re: PS5 Sales Reach 59.3 Million as Sony Falls Just Short of Fiscal Year Forecast
Lol, the haters, mainly Xbox fans are trying too hard to spin this into something bad and it seems I ruffled some feathers with my comments from yesterday so how about I ruffle a few more. Xbox only managed about 800k on their last quarter lmao at this rate I doubt they even crack 40 million by the end of the generation. It's Xbone all over again, actually it's worse so no amount of Phil's begging is going to stop Satya from scrapping the hardware this time.
Re: Square Enix to 'Aggressively' Pursue Multiplatform Strategy from Now On
@UltimateOtaku91 Yeah it is no surprise Christopher Dring said that developers are already questioning whether it is worth it to port to Xbox. PC & Nintendo are big markets though and at least they buy games.
Re: Square Enix to 'Aggressively' Pursue Multiplatform Strategy from Now On
Well Bandai Namco just released the platform split for Tekken 8 and it was -
So as you can see Xbox is inconsequential at this point.
They'll benefit from PC and Nintendo though.
Re: Sony Delists Ghost of Tsushima PC from Steam Regions in Line with Helldivers 2
Well it's Sony's choice. You may not like it but they get to pick and choose which markets they do business in so the PC Pirate Race aren't actually entitled to anything.
Re: PS Store Sales Charts: Stellar Blade Loses Out to Sea of Thieves in Europe, Helldivers 2 Is Still King in US
Europe making sure Xbox ports all their games lol.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Stellar Blade Has a Slightly Disappointing PS5 Debut, Eiyuden Chronicle Sells Best on Switch
Well it isn't a Japanese game so that's actually pretty decent and it was 10 days of sales not 2 weeks, Push. 👍
Re: Gaming Subs Like PS Plus, Xbox Game Pass Aren't Growing At All
@Stickleman You need to read between the lines. Game budgets are increasing but subscription numbers are not and that is basically Xbox's only model these days.
Phil's special interview with IGN that's scheduled after the showcase is going to be interesting. He's either going to announce more games going to the competition or say cod isn't going into gamepass day one or maybe he will say cod is going in but he'll announce a price increase along with it.
They are trying to put more 1st party content into it but without a subscription number bump it means less profit. If Hellblade fails to make an impact on subs then Ninja Theory will probably be closed next as well.
Re: Tango Gameworks, Arkane Austin, More Closed in Brutal Bethesda Restructure
Tango Gameworks was a good studio and deserved better than this. Hopefully Shinji hires some of them at his new studio and it's a shame he doesn't own the Evil Within IP. As others have said Ninja Theory will probably be next on the chopping block after Hellblade fails to make an impact.
Actually Xbox can suck it they've done nothing but make the industry worse.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Cyberpunk 2077 Ultimate Edition Rains on Stellar Blade's Parade
@LordAinsley It was at Amazon for a couple of days but it just ended. It was called the Today's deals discount, Sonic Superstars was only £12.50 but I'm not sure how much Cyberpunk was because I already own it. It was definitely cheaper than £29 though because that's the price it went back up to
Re: PS5 Launch Makes Sea of Thieves One of USA's Best-Selling Games
@Neither_scene Really? I never saw that in the leaks I remember someone saying one of their games cost 30 million are you sure you're not thinking of Ratchet selling 2.7 million copies by February 22?
Edit: Nevermind I found it and you were correct but that's only for Ratchet and probably has something to do with the cartoon graphics.
Re: Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement Backtracked on PC After Brutal Review Bombing Campaign
@get2sammyb Yeah Sony should have just ignored them. The mob was actually beginning to turn on each other over on Reddit. The real Helldivers fans were starting to get annoyed by the ones who just wanted to destroy the game and Arrowhead just for being affiliated with Sony.
Re: Sony Doubles Down on Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement by Taking It Off Sale for PC in Numerous Countries
The melodramatics and infantile outrage over this is hilarious. No wonder some people still think gaming is just for kids.
Re: Sony Doubles Down on Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement by Taking It Off Sale for PC in Numerous Countries
@FullMetalWesker Basically all the big publishers expect you to create an account with them these days, it isn't something new and most of the people complaining just want something to complain about.
Re: Sony Doubles Down on Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement by Taking It Off Sale for PC in Numerous Countries
@UltimateOtaku91 Yep there's probably so few players in those countries that this was an easy decision to make and as long as Sony offers the people in those countries a refund if they want one then I don't see the problem.
It also means anyone who is still crying about it in the countries where PSN is supported can't pretend they're angry on their behalf anymore and will embarrass themselves even further if they keep having a temper tantrum over it.
Re: Sony Doubles Down on Helldivers 2 PSN Requirement by Taking It Off Sale for PC in Numerous Countries
Looking at that list of countries I doubt there's actually many people playing Helldivers in any of them. Anyone from those countries should be able to get a refund if they want one, or if they've already made a PSN with a different region already they can just keep playing if they want but the Karen's who are complaining about creating a PSN in the countries it is actually supported in, need to get a grip.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for May 2024?
I'm happy with Ghostrunner 2 and I'll give Tunic a shot.
Re: Helldivers 2 PC Is Getting Review Bombed Over PSN Requirement
@wiiware When was the last time PSN got hacked? I think people are confusing the hacks on Sony's other divisions like Sony pictures and even the recent insomniac hack was just the studio and had nothing to do with PSN.
Forgive me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure the last PSN hack was back in 2011 so 13 years ago back when PSN was actually free so the PSN security and infrastructure was cheaply run back then.
This whole thing has been blown out of proportion, the only people who have a legitimate reason to be annoyed are the ones who are in a country where PSN isn't available and even then Sony may come up with a workaround. The rest of the people who are just angry because they have to make another account are clutching their pearls, especially when all the major publishers already require one, Rockstar, EA, Microsoft, Ubisoft, Blizzard and Epic etc and some of them even need launchers but somehow now that Sony wants to join the list it warrants a meltdown online from a bunch of drama queens.
Re: Horizon: Call of the Mountain PSVR2 Director Made Redundant by Dev Firesprite
@NEStalgia Haven't you learnt anything yet? History is written by the winners, seriously though I doubt barely anyone cared who was in charge before the PS4 era, I know I didn't, actually I still don't but I'm thinking yeah he'll still probably be credited by the blue bloods as you put it with getting Halo on playstation, that's if it actually happens this gen even if nothing he did actually caused it.
Re: Horizon: Call of the Mountain PSVR2 Director Made Redundant by Dev Firesprite
@NEStalgia It doesn't matter how it went down, when people look back Jim will get the credit for it even if it is undeserved. Selective memory will play its part.
Re: Horizon: Call of the Mountain PSVR2 Director Made Redundant by Dev Firesprite
@Nepp67 Were fans asking them not to port anything else because of the success of the show or something? Because I'm not surprised that didn't work if that's the case.
Re: Horizon: Call of the Mountain PSVR2 Director Made Redundant by Dev Firesprite
@NEStalgia Nevermind Jim will still be remembered as a hero. Well that's if Jez Corden's latest tweets and comments are correct about everything coming to playstation, even Forza and Halo, lol.
Re: Horizon: Call of the Mountain PSVR2 Director Made Redundant by Dev Firesprite
Jason Schreier said that the twisted metal game was never in development. According to him it never made it past the planning phase because Sony wouldn't give Firesprite the greenlight to start work on it and Firesprite's next game is rumoured to be a horror game.
Re: Alan Wake 2 Yet to Recoup Dev, Marketing Expenses as Tencent Raises Stake
Like many people here I'm waiting for a physical release and if it doesn't get one I'll just wait for a bargain bin digital sale price.
For some reason I was considerably less interested in the sequel from the get go so the wait is easy.
Re: Square Enix Game Cancellations Likely as Publisher Records $140 Million Loss in 'Content Disposal'
Yeah I remember reading an article around the time everyone was saying Foamstars wasn't doing well where Square said going forward they are going to start focusing more on Quality than Quantity.