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@11001100110zero you say just end it already? And what will you say when they end it and it results in thousands of layoffs?

@Flaming_Kaiser it all comes down to that statistic Mat Piscatella shared where like 60% of gaming time is from only 10 games (something like that).

Sony desperately wants a game in that top 10. Thats why they pushed GAAS so badly.

I agree smaller titles are safer but Playstation isn’t going to get anywhere making Ape Escapes if Xbox has Minecraft and COD, and Epic has Fortnite.

Plus studios like Naughty Dog and Santa Monica seem to like working with bigger budgets (i’m speculating).

@ultimateotaku91 console sales are up YoY but they aren’t up from a decade or two ago. Thats the point. There was a growth when the Wii and DS (and PS2 leading into that) cracked the casual market but since then it hasn’t grown.

Whilst Playstation 5 has seen record profits; Playstation still doesn’t exactly have a great profit margin. 9% (I believe) or so when you’re spending hundreds of millions on a game is risky.

But this allows another source of contribution to help with that.

Also gives them more markets to sell microtransations to.

Of course not a single article on Push Square could be considered port-begging

@lazarus11 well not necessarily. Remember Palworld was popular. Like really popular. So they probably feel like they lost a lot of potential sales from Gamepass. Yet they still praise it.

@DaveTheRave it’s not just time though, it’s accessibility.

Do you think they should remaster Astro Bot and Spider-man 2?

@DaveTheRave because it was literally there in the store working fine as a PS4 game through BC.

Just fyi i’m not saying that is a bad thing to have it looking beautiful on PS5; i’m just explaining the difference between remastering an 8 year old HZD and a 22 year old Tony Hawk game that isn’t available on modern consoles.

@get2sammyb of course there are always different viewpoints about pretty much everything. And yes Gamepass won’t work for everyone, even on the dev side. But it’s an option, one of these devs even used it! It’s a choice of a different revenue stream. But they can ignore it if they want. I just don’t see the damage they do; unless Xbox game sales were their main revenue driver.

Also would be nice to see the article bring in those that say Gamepass is good.

@graymamba I was genuinely trying to have a conversation, i’m not an idiot. But ok.

@EfYI most likely Expedition 33 for one!

@graymamba but with regards to the negative impact it has on the industry, these publishers are choosing to sign a Gamepass deal. Pocket Pair even recently said how great it was. They don’t have to.

If anything it gives developers/publishers another choice. Get sales on Steam/Playstation/Nintendo and some upfront cash from Xbox.

The devs at Microsoft themselves are already getting paid which people seem to forget. The layoffs sound like they were just due to Microsoft being ***** and wanted to squeeze each department for cash for AI investment. No proof Gamepass has anything to do with it, unless i’m missing something?

@DaveTheRave these games are from Gen 6, thats a bit different from remastering something from Gen 8 that you can already play anyway. The Gears Reloaded remaster is more questionable.

@Ricky-Spanish I guess it will never get resolved; you will always have haters who just want it to go away. But they are missing out as consumers for sure. Gamepass has been banger after banger especially recently. Unless you play 2 games a year then 🤷‍♂️

@graymamba yea the game developers are crying about it. People here commenting about the article are fine, I didn’t say they aren’t.

I don’t get it at all. I love Gamepass and I buy a LOT of games on top (across all consoles).

But if anyone here saw a deal for a Playstation game and it was super cheap and they wanted it, they wouldn’t think oh man what about the devs, they would just buy it. If Ghost of Yotei accidentally went up on PSN for £5 you would have an article about it and there would be a sea of comments saying “thanks managed to snag it” or “damn I missed it”. Very few will say nah hold fire until it’s back to £70. Even though, you know, the devs already got paid.

Point is there is so much crying about whether it is sustainable or unsustainable and it’s been going on for years but what is the point? Just enjoy it! Gamepass is like 7 (or 8?) years old and the crying has been going on for about 5 of those.

It’s an amazing deal. Xbox will end it when they have to or make it so it’s not such a good deal anymore and everyone would have spent 5 years crying about its sustainability instead of just enjoying it.

Will definitely try this, heard good things!

Same day as Gears Reloaded though…

@carlos82 no @awp69 is saying the 9000 jobs are across Microsoft; not just Microsoft Gaming.

@MaelysSedisia nice!

Wait is that Mook?!!

@DETfaninATL nope, Resistance Fall of Man and Resistance 2 were both removed from PS Plus Premium a couple of months ago. And I assume that means they can’t be played on PS5 at all now right?

Edit: here…

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2025/04/ps3s-resistance-games-not-playable-on-ps5-ps4-at-all-after-just-6-months

@Bramble It’s possible but they shouldn’t remove these versions anyway. Xbox hasn’t removed the old Oblivion or Gears games. They should commit to keeping them available; and the remake/remaster should speak for itself.

Either way no sign of a remake/remaster yet anyway.

@DETfaninATL didn’t they just remove that from the service?

@XenonKnight lol, in my 3 comments on this thread, when did I say otherwise? Are you saying i’m not allowed to visit this website and comment?

@crackeastwood i’m a fan of video games. If Playstation make a great video game (e.g. Astro Bot), then thats fantastic and I will play it and enjoy it. But no I don’t really like the company itself if that is what you are comparing… congrats you like them more.

@crackeastwood you literally just joined the site (and are already upset) but okay.

At least Xbox give you another option to play it if you don’t want to pay the full asking price. Just get Gamepass.

@nessisonett can play it on Xbox or PC. Theres still codes floating around for it.

@get2sammyb true but people complain about everything. But you are right. I guess it was just covering more bases than it is now. Plus even in the multiplayer you seemed to get more modes than you do now. Now they just focus on the battlepass rewards etc.

I just miss the days of studios making a complete package game like Gears and Halo. Strong campaign, co-op campaign, strong multiplayer, additional horde mode (or whatever). All in one purchase, done.

I know they weren’t Fortnite juggernauts in terms of success but damn they were good.

Hopefully E-Day will save us.

@PlatinumMikey except when the handhelds come out and they can play their digital libraries on it.

I really don’t think people should be jumping the gun to blame Xbox for this. I mean maybe they paid for an exclusive but it’s pretty unlikely unless this is a really old deal they made. It will come to Playstation eventually, you will all be fine.

@AverageGamer Yea thats pretty much spot on.

@Oram77 IJ in December, Avowed in Feb, South of Midnight in April, Doom in May. Amongst all their other releases (Oblivion/AOE expansions etc). I would say they are releasing a lot of games.

I do love these but i’m priced out. Also don’t like that they have already got a split collection between Switch and PS with different games. But that is a me thing.

Id Software: we are celebrating 3 MILLION players!

Push Square comments: how dare you

At least there is finally Playstation news to report on

So according to the comments a lot of people are just not going to play the game at all? Lol. I like physicals too but just get it digital or, you know, play it on Gamepass.

@Kill_nil yea Bethesda kept their publishing arm separate. Which is why you do see a disk release of this and Indiana Jones, yet XGS games like Forza Horizon, Age, etc aren’t getting physicals.

For those that are fighting this, I get it, but remember when you get your handhelds in the future (from Xbox and Playstation) your disks won’t work on them; but your digitals will.

I still think one day everyone will realise that the decline of Xbox as a console is actually a bad thing. But clearly that day is not today.

Whatever it ends up being; Xbox doing something good shouldn’t be frustrating. Preservation is always a good thing no matter who does it. Would love for Xbox to make the older Tony Hawk games BC.

Playstation will be slacking in this department until they give me Dynasty Warriors 2 and 3 with trophies. So yea they suck.

I’m just a chainsaw noob.

Whilst I don’t want to be dismissive; I think i’m done with the whole school-based JRPG thing for a while.

Wild that Playstation gamers buy games yet those are the ones Bethesda feels they need to advertise harder to.

I haven’t seen anyone upset over this trailer and i’m trying to work out how it’s exclusive.

Yup the storyline is followable if you actually pay attention. It’s actually great having a long running almost serialised twistey turny storyline in video games. Not too many of those.

“We are great at finding games to keep off of Xbox!”.

Definitely supporting these on Switch. Great that these can get releases there too.

I would say that is impressive because even if you’re just pumping money into marketing it still comes down to the consumer. So if they bought the console for Fortnite, how do you get them to try something like Stray (that was day one on Plus, but still).

@EfYI oh of course they need to accommodate PS4 players but… just give both (PS4 and PS5 versions)? Unless its a Falcom thing…

Yea this is pretty sad from Playstation, but kudos for Konami giving Xbox something of equal value.

Playstation really don’t care about burning their bridge with Xbox completely; even though Xbox is giving them so much. Sounds like it could be smart to share TINY things like this just to keep that bridge?

Why is Sony so rubbish with this. It’s not the same but I was looking to play Ys IX on plus but they give you the PS4 version and not the PS5 version… like why? Really really thick.

I thought it was terrible. But Warriors Abyss looks cool, glad it’s on Xbox (and £20!).