Considering Xbox games goes on sale pretty often and soon after release (Oblivion remaster is 20% off just 2 months after release), I kinda don't see problem.
People (especially here) complained that FH5 is being released at full price 3 years after initial release and yet, people bought that game in droves. So much so that it sold more copies on PlayStation 5 than AC Shadows lol.
So charge more for impatient and then catch rest of people with 20% off seems like obvious thing to do. It's not like Nintendo, when you would need to wait years for any kind of deal.
Also...you know...there is a Game Pass if you complain about price too much And anybody who thinks Sony won't follow should probably wake from their dream. Ghost of Yotei would be last non-live service PS game that will be sold for current price. Also. Price is going up only in certain territories (USA). I noticed that in my territory, The Outer Worlds 2 cost same as Avowed.
It's hilarious to complain about "Game Pass as a threat to game industry" when most-played chart on every platform is literally dominated by free-to-play games lol.
@ChrisDeku That's why I said it was way worse Xbox Showcase than last two years . Live service segments a stuff like GoW Reloaded were primary reason. Black Ops 7 should have been at start, not "one more thing." FF stuff should not be there, because announcing port of 5 years old game during your biggest showcase is just dumb. All that stuff should have been replaced by at least two high-profile first-party games. Especially since Spencer already confirmed that Fable, GoW E-Day, Forza Horizon 6 and Halo CE Remake will release next year.
They showed three new first party games, that weren't announced before (Grounded 2, Black Ops 7 and Keeper) and all of them will be released this year, gave release dates to two other already announced first-party games (The Outer Worlds 2 and Ninja Gaiden 4), while NG4 was announced this year. Basically only first-party game without date was Clockwork Revolution, which majority of people consider best game in Showcase .
So you basically took Clockwork Revolution and pretend that it is the case for every first-party game lol. Meanwhile Xbox have (barring exception towards stuff showed in 2020, when they were desperate to announce everything because they didn't have enough studios) been pretty quick with releases after announcements. DOOM: TDA was released less then year after announcement. Indy was announced and release in same year. Age of Mythology Retold year after. Oblivion Remastered was released same day lol.
It's especially hilarious in context of State of Play that you praised. Which showed teaser for another State of Play (Ghost of Yotei), games that were already announced and in some cases already had a release date (Metal Gear Solid Delta, Silent Hill f, Baby Steps and Pragmata). Not to mention fact that Pragmata was announced 5 years ago. And we can't forget update for existing game (Astro Bot). So...double standard?
What I said wasn't outlandish. If you take scores on public pools, majority of people agree that it was XBShowcase - SGF - SOP in terms of quality. It wasn't a huge difference between them, at least not for me. But it was still there. Obviously, you can have different subjective opinion.
@ChrisDeku I mean. You can check Geoff's pool Considering how much Xbox "has no games" it's pretty interesting that they have best showcases year after year
@Don_Corleone Are you a person or AI? Because wall of the slop you just wrote made me think that this isn't a thing someone wrote.
I was talking about showcases. Nothing more, nothing less. If you need to go on tangent because of that and extrapolate your poor attempt to weigh in into Xbox vs. PlayStation ecosystem, that's just your problem lol.
If you think that I'm loosing my sleep over Xbox porting their games onto PlayStation, you are barking on a wrong tree mate. I truly don't care. I own Series X and PS5 and prefer Xbox because of Game Pass. If that change, I will change my main platform. I'm going where better deal is.
It's also hilarious that you are crying about "4 of the same games year after year," because last time I checked, Xbox has pretty great variety in terms of new IP's. Just this year, they launched 3 of them. Also it's hilarious that PlayStation guys a frothing about those "dead IP's" so much that Forza Horizon 5 is one of the best selling games on PlayStation this year
Xbox had a best showcase, not because it was great, but because all other were rather poor.
It was okay, but nowhere near great as last two years. But since Spencer already teased Fable, Gears E-Day, Forza Horizon 6 and Halo CE Remake for next year, I'm not that mad tbh.
Clockwork Revolution looks like best game ever and my wet dream coming true. But even with Grounded 2, ToW2, Ninja Gaiden 4, that Double Fine game and Black Ops 7 I expected way better showing from first party.
Which is honestly hilarious, because there were literally 7 first-party games shown during showcase and one expansion (for Indy) and still I'm thinking that there wasn't enough. There was just too much stuff missing from them that probably should have been there. Stuff like State of Decay 3, Everwild or Fable. And also...that live service segments should die already. Like, I know that Sea of Thieves is still popular and same is true for TESO and Fallout 76. But please...why in Showcase?
@ChrisDeku MS showed 12 first-party games last year. From which they already released 8 (again, not counting expansions). Sprinkling some stuff that is further away when you already have stacked release cadence is not a bad thing in slightest.
It's not like everything they showed is releasing in 5 years lol. From "not released" games there are Fable, GoW E-Day, State of Decay 3 and Perfect Dark. All of those games (outside PD) will be out this or next year.
@ChrisDeku Poll on Twitter by Geoff Keighley speaks for itself
A: 24,2%
B: 26,8%
C: 20,9%
D: 28,1%
Meanwhile PS Showcase 2021 which had almost exact same length but had way more first-party content
A: 52,6%
B: 30,2%
C: 10,9%
D: 6,2%
So much for "fake narratives" lol
Look. It's okay to say "I personally thought that this show was great." But to claim that general audience don't have expectations they are clearly have is just dumb.
This State of Play was okay. Nothing more, nothing less. Sony did way better shows in the past and probably will do way better shows in future. So I absolutely can't go higher then B, maybe even C. And general audience agrees.
@Titntin Best rated shows are always those who have exciting first-party content. That is the case with Nintendo, that is the case with Sony and also with Xbox. That's why PlayStation's E3 2016 is such a treat. Because they showed God of War, Horizon, Days Gone, Detroit Become Human all in one show. That's why last year's Xbox Showcase was praised. You can say it's "dumb," but it's just true.
"Why even watch it if you dont care for anything other than 1st party, it was clearly stated they would be showing games from their publishing partners?"
That's on Sony. When they had "Showcase" and "State of Play," people were able to manage their expectations. They knew, that Showcase is big show for first-party content. But Sony forgot to make Showcases and started folding first-party content into State of Play format. So people are obviously expecting first-party content in State of Play. And when they are not getting one, they are disappointed. It's not rocket science lol.
Exciting first-party announcements are "creme de la creme" of first-party shows. Pretending like this wasn't a case in the past is revisionism of history. That's why every single Xbox show from 2016-2020 (outside of 2018) sucked so hard. Because while they shown great announcements, they always lacked first-party content.
But it's honestly hilarious that "fist-party doesn't matter" opinions started forming in exactly same time, when Sony started to have less and less first-party content in their shows. To that I will say that best part of 2021 PlayStation Showcase were last 10 minutes when they showed Wolverine, Gran Turismo 7, Spider-Man 2 and God of War Ragnarok. And those 10 minutes are the reason why 2021 PS Showcase is best PS show in last 5 years.
@Oram77 No, they are not. I know that people will bring "showcase vs. state of play argument," but if shows like E3 2016 is A (which is basically gold standard currently), they how on Earth you can give this show anything better than B?
Sony themselves had plenty of way better shows. Not to mention Xbox showcases which were just excellent in last 2 years. Basically, Xbox had more first-party content in their auxiliary show (Developer_Direct) then Sony had during this State of Play. In showcase last year, they had 12 first-party games, not including expansions.
Basically, people are primarily watching PlayStation presentations for new first-party content. And there isn't much first-party content there. So people are not happy. And "cherry on top" was announcement of announcement of Ghost of Yotei lol. I don't understand why Sony just couldn't wait for July and include Ghost of Yotei presentation into one coherent State of Play.
You can't train your audience on first-party story-driven content and then just not show content like that. And if you don't have that content ready, then just wait lol. Nintendo was also criticized for Switch 2 direct because of lack of new first-party reveals.
@ChrisDeku You mean fake story where even Sony execs admitted that they have helped with Black Myth Wukong while mentioning Genshin Impact, Stray and Stellar Blade in same sentence . (all of games being timed/permanent exclusives on PlayStation)
Like, you can talk about "imaginary friends" however you want, but you are hardly beating allegations of some kind of deal, when you are releasing your game on other platform exactly one year after it came to PS5. All while Phil Spencer was talking that he knows when game will come out to Xbox, but he can't talk about it publicly lol (for obvious reasons).
Also, it's hilarious to talk about Paul Tassi's "imaginary friends" when even IGN reporters and Imran Khan (former GameInformer reporter) were talking about some kind of deal (technical support for period of exclusivity). But okay mate.
But it must be a hell of an optimisation work on Series S version that it took exactly one year to be completed
But everybody can reach it's own conclusion obviously.
Who is surprised exactly? Every From Soft game (maybe outside of Sekiro) was technological disaster with poor framerates and technological quality of visuals.
This will be a prime example where "insiders" are doing more harm than good.
When talks about God of War greece spin-off first arrived, many were thinking about Lost Legacy style game built on assets from new God of War games. So while I adore this genre, I think many people will be disappointed by this reveal.
No surprise there. Pascal was heart of the show and when he is gone, there was nobody able to fill that void. Like in game.
Also, Ramsay was just bad casting choice. She was somewhat okay in first series where she was meant to be younger. But she is just not believable at her current role, I'm sorry. I have plenty of gripes with story of second game, but one thing I couldn't complain about was Johnson's performance. But Ramsay is just bad...
Probably only saving grace is that third series is meant to focus on Abby, because Dever was probably best thing about this series.
@twitchtvpat No it won't be.
Jason Schreier (probably best sourced journalist in games industry) literally said that ND showed "early peek" at game and they will not release it in either 2025 nor 2026. So it's 2027 at earliest.
@Oram77 Mate, Microsoft released four first-party games since start of the year, not counting PS5 ports. And it's only May. They already have other four announced for rest of the year + obvious Call of Duty.
Since Intergalactic is 2027 title (at best) this is probably for PS6 lol.
It's pretty insane that ND went from studio that made 4 big games, one expansion and one huge standalone from 2010 to 2020 to studio that is barely scraping 2 projects in 10 years.
Yeah. Let's make a big deal about Steam numbers when game is also available on
Battle.net (which has huge number of customers)
Xbox app on PC
Game Pass service
not to mention fact that Eternal was released when everybody was forced to stay home during pandemic
But I guess that's too much of a nuance for PushSquare
@SMJ No lol. Not in terms of how you are counting revenue from those games.
Do you think Nintendo counts sales of Metroid Dread or Metroid Prime 4 in different "bucket?" No. Those sales are counted in category of first-party sales.
Yes, you don't own studios that are making those games, but you are usually a publisher and also lended dev team supporting studios that you own (like XDev). It's strange to try to count them in different way in you financial report lol.
@PuppetMaster Intergalactic will not release in 2026 per Jason Schreier. He said that trailer was "early sneek peak" and game will be out in 2027 at earliest.
Wolverine was slated for 2026 per Insomniac leak.
Considering Sony literally cancelled Bend's and Bluepoint's games in January, there is 0% chance they will release something (new) next year.
"Game may get delayed again" is probably biggest non-news story ever. Like...this is true for every game
More interesting part of article is other publishers/devs scrambling and playing 4D chess with guessing what to do with their own games. It's hilarious ngl. Investing hundreds of millions to your new shiny game just to get shat on by Rockstar Games.
Since Nintendo (as a really backwards ass company) literally hop on board to this whole thing with, do you really think Sony would do anything lol?
Sony also wants people in digital ecosystem instead of buying physical (for obvious reasons). So do anybody thinks that they will do anything against that?
Also, it's literally "niche within a niche" problem. Physical sales are dropping regardless and people who will refuse to buy a game if it's not "fully playable from disc" is small percentage of already small percentage of players who are buying physical edition of games. So I doubt Sony, Microsoft, Ubisoft etc. cares at all.
@Onelastgo So it doesn't matter because
1. game cover clearly states that game requires download. So if they don't know how to read properly, it's probably their problem
2. Since they already bought the game, they will proceed to do what is necessary to play it
COD games are doing this ***** every year and they are almost always best selling games during year. So if 30 million of COD owners can do this, I don't understand where exactly is the problem. And impact by people refusing to buy a game because it is not playable from disc is clearly small enough, that publishers don't care.
Bella Ramsey is probably one of the biggest miscasts that I remember. It kinda worked in first season (because Ellie was younger), but in second season I don't believe a single moment she is in...
@Nepp67 Because if they didn't make physical copy, people would bitch more and would result in lost sales.
So they are making minimum effort. Just a few people here and there will refuse to buy DOOM because it is essentially "game key" disc. Same as with Call of Duty, Indy, Forza Horizon 5 and plenty of other games.
Majority of people who are buying this game physically are doing it for purpose of selling the game after they are done or collecting it. Both of those parameters are fulfilled even in this format. Also, majority of people just don't care at all. They see game on shelf, they will buy it and do necessary steps needed to play it.
Let's face it. People who care about physical games and games being complete on the disc are huge minority inside another huge minority.
I would not be against Microsoft porting Halo Infinite to PlayStation 5 even as a gamer who spend 90% on Xbox (rest is PS5). If not whole game, at least MP. MP has excellent amount of content and is in great shape, but is also in dire need of influx of new players.
@get2sammyb FTFY: "Best console version of Gears of War: Reloaded will be on PS5 Pro"
Really not that hard. But since I see that on X you got plenty of engagement where people are correcting you with "PC argument," I expect that this headline is by design, obviously.
@Lukasamba If Microsoft won't make physical version of 70€ RPG game (Avowed), do you really think they will make physical edition for 40€ remaster of old game?
@Fartingale Gears 2 and 3 remasters are obviously coming. Not only because of new PlayStation audience, but also because Gears 2 and 3 are not natively on PC.
But I guess charging 40€ for every single remaster is better for Microsoft than charging 70€ for remasters of three games. Gears 1 remaster probably got priority because it's easier game to remaster (since Ultimate edition already exist) and also to woven PS users into Gears universe since E-Day is coming.
@thefourfoldroot1 I tend to lean towards games that don't have 30+ hours runtime, which allows me to try more games. With exceptions of course. This year I completed Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, Balatro (ie. I'm done with game), Eternal Strands, Hellblade 2, Remnant 2, Avowed, South of Midnight, God of War Ragnarok. Which is not bad at all...
@thefourfoldroot1 Outside of GTA/RDR2 I have never seen a game that was in Game Pass for less than a year. So if you won't find time in year to play Expedition 33, then you probably won't play it ever. And I'm talking about year at minimum. Majority of games are in subscription for way longer.
This "I'm feeling pressure to play" is kinda strange. Outside of fact that every Game Pass game leaving service gives you 20% discount to own it, there is plenty of time for players to play it.
That's just obvious truth.
As a Game Pass and PS Plus subscriber I can tell you that I have no problem to stop playing a game if I don't find it enjoyable.
But if I bought that game, I'm often going through even if I'm not having fun just to "get my money's worth."
So it's obvious that when people have easy access to Expedition 33, many more people will try it, but lower percentage of players will actually finish it. Because you have no pressure to finish it if you won't find it fun.
I personally started to play Expedition 33 through Game Pass, but it was also released in same week as Oblivion. So I had to split my time between both with DOOM looming on horizon.
@Vectrex PC parts were also affordable in past. I remember buying mid-range GPU for 180€ not that long ago. Nowadays "mid range" starts at 400€ lol.
CPU are also more expensive as are motherboards. Basically only components that can be comparable to the past price-wise are RAM modules and NVMe SSD which decreased in price in recent years.
But my point wasn't "PC vs. consoles" but fact that people are reacting on price hikes of consoles with "glad I built a PC." Ignoring the fact that PC components are also getting price hikes.
@dardel I honestly don't get those "glad I build a PC." Aren't PC components also getting ridiculosly expensive nowadays? I remember times when high-end GPU cost 700$ max. Now high-end GPU cost 1500$ lol.
@HOWARDSROCK Bro. I doubt that my PS5 will even work in 20-25 years .
But if it will work I will do the basic thing. Install my digital copy of a game which will be probably downloaded 10x faster than installing it from a disc lol. But if you think Sony will shut down their store then okay
And btw. I already have kids. They will be hitting 30s in 25 years of time
@gomersoul If you priced it at 30€/$ you would need to sell twice the copies to have same amount of revenue. I don't think they would magically sold twice the amount of copies to compensate.
Microsoft's approach makes perfect sense from business standpoint. Give it full price tag, catch as many people as you can and then catch the rest with discounts during the year. Unless they have FH6 this year(which I doubt), which would probably kill sales of FH5, they have all the time in the world.
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Re: Xbox to Blame for The Outer Worlds 2's Devastating $80 PS5 Price Point
Considering Xbox games goes on sale pretty often and soon after release (Oblivion remaster is 20% off just 2 months after release), I kinda don't see problem.
People (especially here) complained that FH5 is being released at full price 3 years after initial release and yet, people bought that game in droves. So much so that it sold more copies on PlayStation 5 than AC Shadows lol.
So charge more for impatient and then catch rest of people with 20% off seems like obvious thing to do. It's not like Nintendo, when you would need to wait years for any kind of deal.
Also...you know...there is a Game Pass if you complain about price too much And anybody who thinks Sony won't follow should probably wake from their dream. Ghost of Yotei would be last non-live service PS game that will be sold for current price. Also. Price is going up only in certain territories (USA). I noticed that in my territory, The Outer Worlds 2 cost same as Avowed.
Re: 'People Are Less Willing to Pay': Dev Speaks Out Against Day One Releases on PS Plus, Xbox Game Pass
It's hilarious to complain about "Game Pass as a threat to game industry" when most-played chart on every platform is literally dominated by free-to-play games lol.
But I guess, narrative must go on, right?
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced for PS5 at Xbox Games Showcase?
@ChrisDeku That's why I said it was way worse Xbox Showcase than last two years . Live service segments a stuff like GoW Reloaded were primary reason. Black Ops 7 should have been at start, not "one more thing." FF stuff should not be there, because announcing port of 5 years old game during your biggest showcase is just dumb. All that stuff should have been replaced by at least two high-profile first-party games. Especially since Spencer already confirmed that Fable, GoW E-Day, Forza Horizon 6 and Halo CE Remake will release next year.
They showed three new first party games, that weren't announced before (Grounded 2, Black Ops 7 and Keeper) and all of them will be released this year, gave release dates to two other already announced first-party games (The Outer Worlds 2 and Ninja Gaiden 4), while NG4 was announced this year. Basically only first-party game without date was Clockwork Revolution, which majority of people consider best game in Showcase .
So you basically took Clockwork Revolution and pretend that it is the case for every first-party game lol. Meanwhile Xbox have (barring exception towards stuff showed in 2020, when they were desperate to announce everything because they didn't have enough studios) been pretty quick with releases after announcements. DOOM: TDA was released less then year after announcement. Indy was announced and release in same year. Age of Mythology Retold year after. Oblivion Remastered was released same day lol.
It's especially hilarious in context of State of Play that you praised. Which showed teaser for another State of Play (Ghost of Yotei), games that were already announced and in some cases already had a release date (Metal Gear Solid Delta, Silent Hill f, Baby Steps and Pragmata). Not to mention fact that Pragmata was announced 5 years ago. And we can't forget update for existing game (Astro Bot). So...double standard?
What I said wasn't outlandish. If you take scores on public pools, majority of people agree that it was XBShowcase - SGF - SOP in terms of quality. It wasn't a huge difference between them, at least not for me. But it was still there. Obviously, you can have different subjective opinion.
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced for PS5 at Xbox Games Showcase?
@ChrisDeku I mean. You can check Geoff's pool
Considering how much Xbox "has no games" it's pretty interesting that they have best showcases year after year
But I guess those are probably paid users.
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced for PS5 at Xbox Games Showcase?
@Don_Corleone Are you a person or AI? Because wall of the slop you just wrote made me think that this isn't a thing someone wrote.
I was talking about showcases. Nothing more, nothing less. If you need to go on tangent because of that and extrapolate your poor attempt to weigh in into Xbox vs. PlayStation ecosystem, that's just your problem lol.
If you think that I'm loosing my sleep over Xbox porting their games onto PlayStation, you are barking on a wrong tree mate. I truly don't care. I own Series X and PS5 and prefer Xbox because of Game Pass. If that change, I will change my main platform. I'm going where better deal is.
It's also hilarious that you are crying about "4 of the same games year after year," because last time I checked, Xbox has pretty great variety in terms of new IP's. Just this year, they launched 3 of them. Also it's hilarious that PlayStation guys a frothing about those "dead IP's" so much that Forza Horizon 5 is one of the best selling games on PlayStation this year
But please, go on. It's honestly hilarious.
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced for PS5 at Xbox Games Showcase?
Xbox had a best showcase, not because it was great, but because all other were rather poor.
It was okay, but nowhere near great as last two years. But since Spencer already teased Fable, Gears E-Day, Forza Horizon 6 and Halo CE Remake for next year, I'm not that mad tbh.
Clockwork Revolution looks like best game ever and my wet dream coming true. But even with Grounded 2, ToW2, Ninja Gaiden 4, that Double Fine game and Black Ops 7 I expected way better showing from first party.
Which is honestly hilarious, because there were literally 7 first-party games shown during showcase and one expansion (for Indy) and still I'm thinking that there wasn't enough. There was just too much stuff missing from them that probably should have been there. Stuff like State of Decay 3, Everwild or Fable. And also...that live service segments should die already. Like, I know that Sea of Thieves is still popular and same is true for TESO and Fallout 76. But please...why in Showcase?
Re: PS5's Brilliant New State of Play Breaks Records for Sony
@ChrisDeku MS showed 12 first-party games last year. From which they already released 8 (again, not counting expansions). Sprinkling some stuff that is further away when you already have stacked release cadence is not a bad thing in slightest.
It's not like everything they showed is releasing in 5 years lol. From "not released" games there are Fable, GoW E-Day, State of Decay 3 and Perfect Dark. All of those games (outside PD) will be out this or next year.
Re: PS5's Brilliant New State of Play Breaks Records for Sony
@ChrisDeku Poll on Twitter by Geoff Keighley speaks for itself
A: 24,2%
B: 26,8%
C: 20,9%
D: 28,1%
Meanwhile PS Showcase 2021 which had almost exact same length but had way more first-party content
A: 52,6%
B: 30,2%
C: 10,9%
D: 6,2%
So much for "fake narratives" lol
Look. It's okay to say "I personally thought that this show was great." But to claim that general audience don't have expectations they are clearly have is just dumb.
This State of Play was okay. Nothing more, nothing less. Sony did way better shows in the past and probably will do way better shows in future. So I absolutely can't go higher then B, maybe even C. And general audience agrees.
Re: PS5's Brilliant New State of Play Breaks Records for Sony
@Titntin Best rated shows are always those who have exciting first-party content. That is the case with Nintendo, that is the case with Sony and also with Xbox. That's why PlayStation's E3 2016 is such a treat. Because they showed God of War, Horizon, Days Gone, Detroit Become Human all in one show. That's why last year's Xbox Showcase was praised. You can say it's "dumb," but it's just true.
"Why even watch it if you dont care for anything other than 1st party, it was clearly stated they would be showing games from their publishing partners?"
That's on Sony. When they had "Showcase" and "State of Play," people were able to manage their expectations. They knew, that Showcase is big show for first-party content. But Sony forgot to make Showcases and started folding first-party content into State of Play format. So people are obviously expecting first-party content in State of Play. And when they are not getting one, they are disappointed. It's not rocket science lol.
Exciting first-party announcements are "creme de la creme" of first-party shows. Pretending like this wasn't a case in the past is revisionism of history. That's why every single Xbox show from 2016-2020 (outside of 2018) sucked so hard. Because while they shown great announcements, they always lacked first-party content.
But it's honestly hilarious that "fist-party doesn't matter" opinions started forming in exactly same time, when Sony started to have less and less first-party content in their shows. To that I will say that best part of 2021 PlayStation Showcase were last 10 minutes when they showed Wolverine, Gran Turismo 7, Spider-Man 2 and God of War Ragnarok. And those 10 minutes are the reason why 2021 PS Showcase is best PS show in last 5 years.
Re: PS5's Brilliant New State of Play Breaks Records for Sony
@Oram77 No, they are not.
I know that people will bring "showcase vs. state of play argument," but if shows like E3 2016 is A (which is basically gold standard currently), they how on Earth you can give this show anything better than B?
Sony themselves had plenty of way better shows. Not to mention Xbox showcases which were just excellent in last 2 years. Basically, Xbox had more first-party content in their auxiliary show (Developer_Direct) then Sony had during this State of Play. In showcase last year, they had 12 first-party games, not including expansions.
Basically, people are primarily watching PlayStation presentations for new first-party content. And there isn't much first-party content there. So people are not happy. And "cherry on top" was announcement of announcement of Ghost of Yotei lol. I don't understand why Sony just couldn't wait for July and include Ghost of Yotei presentation into one coherent State of Play.
You can't train your audience on first-party story-driven content and then just not show content like that. And if you don't have that content ready, then just wait lol. Nintendo was also criticized for Switch 2 direct because of lack of new first-party reveals.
Re: Black Myth: Wukong's Secret PS5 Exclusivity Saga Rages Again
@ChrisDeku You mean fake story where even Sony execs admitted that they have helped with Black Myth Wukong while mentioning Genshin Impact, Stray and Stellar Blade in same sentence . (all of games being timed/permanent exclusives on PlayStation)
Like, you can talk about "imaginary friends" however you want, but you are hardly beating allegations of some kind of deal, when you are releasing your game on other platform exactly one year after it came to PS5. All while Phil Spencer was talking that he knows when game will come out to Xbox, but he can't talk about it publicly lol (for obvious reasons).
Also, it's hilarious to talk about Paul Tassi's "imaginary friends" when even IGN reporters and Imran Khan (former GameInformer reporter) were talking about some kind of deal (technical support for period of exclusivity). But okay mate.
But it must be a hell of an optimisation work on Series S version that it took exactly one year to be completed
But everybody can reach it's own conclusion obviously.
Re: Elden Ring Nightreign Has No PS5 Pro Improvements At All
Who is surprised exactly? Every From Soft game (maybe outside of Sekiro) was technological disaster with poor framerates and technological quality of visuals.
Re: Rumour: Greek God of War Game Is a 2.5D Metroidvania
This will be a prime example where "insiders" are doing more harm than good.
When talks about God of War greece spin-off first arrived, many were thinking about Lost Legacy style game built on assets from new God of War games. So while I adore this genre, I think many people will be disappointed by this reveal.
Re: Stellar Blade's PC Demo Peaks Higher Than Some Blockbuster Games, Runs Flawlessly
It's almost like demo is free lol and Indy cost 80€
Re: HBO's The Last of Us Sees a Dramatic Decline in Season 2 Finale Viewers
No surprise there. Pascal was heart of the show and when he is gone, there was nobody able to fill that void. Like in game.
Also, Ramsay was just bad casting choice. She was somewhat okay in first series where she was meant to be younger. But she is just not believable at her current role, I'm sorry. I have plenty of gripes with story of second game, but one thing I couldn't complain about was Johnson's performance. But Ramsay is just bad...
Probably only saving grace is that third series is meant to focus on Abby, because Dever was probably best thing about this series.
Re: It's Over! FTC Drops Its Case Against Microsoft's Activision Buyout
@get2sammyb Well. As a Game Pass subscriber I'm surely not complaining lol.
Re: Apr 2025 USA Sales: PS5 Ports Award Microsoft's Forza Horizon 5, Indiana Jones Huge Boosts
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Re: Apr 2025 USA Sales: PS5 Ports Award Microsoft's Forza Horizon 5, Indiana Jones Huge Boosts
@Oram77 So? All projects were funded by Microsoft so we can probably stop with whole "but they bought them."
Nobody cares that Sony bought Bungie lol. Marathon IS Sony game and is counted as such.
Re: Neil Druckmann Confirms Involvement in Second Unannounced Naughty Dog Project
@twitchtvpat No it won't be.
Jason Schreier (probably best sourced journalist in games industry) literally said that ND showed "early peek" at game and they will not release it in either 2025 nor 2026. So it's 2027 at earliest.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/1jjzlpg/jason_schreier_neither_intergalactic_or_the/
He said same thing about Witcher 4, as both games were shown during TGA.
If you are expecting Intergalactic next year you are setting yourself up for disappointment.
Re: Apr 2025 USA Sales: PS5 Ports Award Microsoft's Forza Horizon 5, Indiana Jones Huge Boosts
@Oram77 Mate, Microsoft released four first-party games since start of the year, not counting PS5 ports. And it's only May. They already have other four announced for rest of the year + obvious Call of Duty.
That's nine games. In 12 months...
Re: Neil Druckmann Confirms Involvement in Second Unannounced Naughty Dog Project
Since Intergalactic is 2027 title (at best) this is probably for PS6 lol.
It's pretty insane that ND went from studio that made 4 big games, one expansion and one huge standalone from 2010 to 2020 to studio that is barely scraping 2 projects in 10 years.
Re: Inquiry Already Underway Over Lacklustre DOOM: The Dark Ages Opening
Yeah. Let's make a big deal about Steam numbers when game is also available on
Battle.net (which has huge number of customers)
Xbox app on PC
Game Pass service
not to mention fact that Eternal was released when everybody was forced to stay home during pandemic
But I guess that's too much of a nuance for PushSquare
Re: PS5 First-Party Game Sales Will Increase Over Next Year, Sony Says
@SMJ No lol. Not in terms of how you are counting revenue from those games.
Do you think Nintendo counts sales of Metroid Dread or Metroid Prime 4 in different "bucket?" No. Those sales are counted in category of first-party sales.
Yes, you don't own studios that are making those games, but you are usually a publisher and also lended dev team supporting studios that you own (like XDev). It's strange to try to count them in different way in you financial report lol.
Re: PS5 First-Party Game Sales Will Increase Over Next Year, Sony Says
@PuppetMaster Intergalactic will not release in 2026 per Jason Schreier. He said that trailer was "early sneek peak" and game will be out in 2027 at earliest.
Wolverine was slated for 2026 per Insomniac leak.
Considering Sony literally cancelled Bend's and Bluepoint's games in January, there is 0% chance they will release something (new) next year.
Re: GTA 6's New Release Date Raises Concerns It Might Slip Again Beyond May 2026
"Game may get delayed again" is probably biggest non-news story ever. Like...this is true for every game
More interesting part of article is other publishers/devs scrambling and playing 4D chess with guessing what to do with their own games. It's hilarious ngl. Investing hundreds of millions to your new shiny game just to get shat on by Rockstar Games.
Re: Reaction: Game Key PS5 Discs Are a Disgrace, and Sony Should Put a Stop to Them
Since Nintendo (as a really backwards ass company) literally hop on board to this whole thing with, do you really think Sony would do anything lol?
Sony also wants people in digital ecosystem instead of buying physical (for obvious reasons). So do anybody thinks that they will do anything against that?
Also, it's literally "niche within a niche" problem. Physical sales are dropping regardless and people who will refuse to buy a game if it's not "fully playable from disc" is small percentage of already small percentage of players who are buying physical edition of games. So I doubt Sony, Microsoft, Ubisoft etc. cares at all.
Re: PS5 Fans Furious As Microsoft Ships DOOM: The Dark Ages with Just 85MB on the Disc
@Onelastgo So it doesn't matter because
1. game cover clearly states that game requires download. So if they don't know how to read properly, it's probably their problem
2. Since they already bought the game, they will proceed to do what is necessary to play it
COD games are doing this ***** every year and they are almost always best selling games during year. So if 30 million of COD owners can do this, I don't understand where exactly is the problem. And impact by people refusing to buy a game because it is not playable from disc is clearly small enough, that publishers don't care.
Re: Just Like the Game, The Last of Us 2's TV Adaptation Is Getting Review Bombed
Bella Ramsey is probably one of the biggest miscasts that I remember. It kinda worked in first season (because Ellie was younger), but in second season I don't believe a single moment she is in...
Re: Rumour: DOOM: The Dark Ages PS5's Physical Edition May Require a Download to Start
@Nepp67 Because if they didn't make physical copy, people would bitch more and would result in lost sales.
So they are making minimum effort. Just a few people here and there will refuse to buy DOOM because it is essentially "game key" disc. Same as with Call of Duty, Indy, Forza Horizon 5 and plenty of other games.
Majority of people who are buying this game physically are doing it for purpose of selling the game after they are done or collecting it. Both of those parameters are fulfilled even in this format. Also, majority of people just don't care at all. They see game on shelf, they will buy it and do necessary steps needed to play it.
Let's face it. People who care about physical games and games being complete on the disc are huge minority inside another huge minority.
Re: Sony's New First-Party Studio Working on Lighthearted Team-Based Action Game for PS5
@get2sammyb Which is not saying much, because Sony also saw a lot of promise with Concord. So much promise that they bought entire studio...
Re: Halo the Final PS5 Holdout of Xbox's Historic Big Three
I would not be against Microsoft porting Halo Infinite to PlayStation 5 even as a gamer who spend 90% on Xbox (rest is PS5).
If not whole game, at least MP. MP has excellent amount of content and is in great shape, but is also in dire need of influx of new players.
Re: Xbox's Gears of War: Reloaded Will Play Best on PS5 Pro
@JustMyOpinion "why so argumentative about objectively false headline that's only purpose is to drive engagement"
Do you need an answer lol?
Re: Xbox's Gears of War: Reloaded Will Play Best on PS5 Pro
@get2sammyb FTFY: "Best console version of Gears of War: Reloaded will be on PS5 Pro"
Really not that hard.
But since I see that on X you got plenty of engagement where people are correcting you with "PC argument," I expect that this headline is by design, obviously.
Re: Xbox's Gears of War: Reloaded Will Play Best on PS5 Pro
@RobbySuave Every game released after september 2024 needs to recognize "PS5 Pro" as a separate SKU. So therefore it is mandated.
It's like if people were acting surprised that Series S games also have Series X support lol.
Re: Xbox's Gears of War: Reloaded Will Play Best on PS5 Pro
@Lukasamba If Microsoft won't make physical version of 70€ RPG game (Avowed), do you really think they will make physical edition for 40€ remaster of old game?
Re: Xbox's Gears of War: Reloaded Will Play Best on PS5 Pro
@get2sammyb I was talking about headline obviously
Re: Xbox's Gears of War: Reloaded Will Play Best on PS5 Pro
@Fartingale Gears 2 and 3 remasters are obviously coming. Not only because of new PlayStation audience, but also because Gears 2 and 3 are not natively on PC.
But I guess charging 40€ for every single remaster is better for Microsoft than charging 70€ for remasters of three games. Gears 1 remaster probably got priority because it's easier game to remaster (since Ultimate edition already exist) and also to woven PS users into Gears universe since E-Day is coming.
Re: Xbox's Gears of War: Reloaded Will Play Best on PS5 Pro
It's wild to write headline like this in world where PC gaming exist lol...
Also, it is really surprising that game supports PS5 Pro? Since Sony is mandating support for that system?
But I guess Push Square really don't have anything else to write about
Re: Plenty of People Are Playing Expedition 33 on PS5, Despite Having to Actually Buy It
@thefourfoldroot1 I tend to lean towards games that don't have 30+ hours runtime, which allows me to try more games. With exceptions of course.
This year I completed Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, Balatro (ie. I'm done with game), Eternal Strands, Hellblade 2, Remnant 2, Avowed, South of Midnight, God of War Ragnarok. Which is not bad at all...
Re: Plenty of People Are Playing Expedition 33 on PS5, Despite Having to Actually Buy It
@thefourfoldroot1 Nah. I'm in mid 30-s with two kids lol
Re: Plenty of People Are Playing Expedition 33 on PS5, Despite Having to Actually Buy It
@thefourfoldroot1 Outside of GTA/RDR2 I have never seen a game that was in Game Pass for less than a year. So if you won't find time in year to play Expedition 33, then you probably won't play it ever. And I'm talking about year at minimum. Majority of games are in subscription for way longer.
This "I'm feeling pressure to play" is kinda strange. Outside of fact that every Game Pass game leaving service gives you 20% discount to own it, there is plenty of time for players to play it.
Re: Plenty of People Are Playing Expedition 33 on PS5, Despite Having to Actually Buy It
That's just obvious truth.
As a Game Pass and PS Plus subscriber I can tell you that I have no problem to stop playing a game if I don't find it enjoyable.
But if I bought that game, I'm often going through even if I'm not having fun just to "get my money's worth."
So it's obvious that when people have easy access to Expedition 33, many more people will try it, but lower percentage of players will actually finish it. Because you have no pressure to finish it if you won't find it fun.
I personally started to play Expedition 33 through Game Pass, but it was also released in same week as Oblivion. So I had to split my time between both with DOOM looming on horizon.
Re: Opinion: If You're on the Fence, Consider Buying a PS5 Now Before the Prices Inevitably Rise
@Vectrex PC parts were also affordable in past. I remember buying mid-range GPU for 180€ not that long ago. Nowadays "mid range" starts at 400€ lol.
CPU are also more expensive as are motherboards. Basically only components that can be comparable to the past price-wise are RAM modules and NVMe SSD which decreased in price in recent years.
Re: Opinion: If You're on the Fence, Consider Buying a PS5 Now Before the Prices Inevitably Rise
@Vectrex I obviously get that.
But my point wasn't "PC vs. consoles" but fact that people are reacting on price hikes of consoles with "glad I built a PC." Ignoring the fact that PC components are also getting price hikes.
Re: Opinion: If You're on the Fence, Consider Buying a PS5 Now Before the Prices Inevitably Rise
@dardel I honestly don't get those "glad I build a PC." Aren't PC components also getting ridiculosly expensive nowadays? I remember times when high-end GPU cost 700$ max. Now high-end GPU cost 1500$ lol.
Re: Xbox Now Selling PS5 Games for $80, Joins Switch 2 in Price Increase
Even if Game Pass price hike is just matter of "when" not "if" it's really goes to distance with value proposition.
Just imagine having amount of games they are offering for 20$ per month vs. having to buy every game for 80$.
Re: Expedition 33 Dev Working Around the Clock to Re-Stock Boxed PS5 Copies
@HOWARDSROCK Bro. I doubt that my PS5 will even work in 20-25 years .
But if it will work I will do the basic thing. Install my digital copy of a game which will be probably downloaded 10x faster than installing it from a disc lol. But if you think Sony will shut down their store then okay
And btw. I already have kids. They will be hitting 30s in 25 years of time
Re: Expedition 33 Dev Working Around the Clock to Re-Stock Boxed PS5 Copies
I know that this post will make some people angry...
...but imagine waiting to buy a game in 2025 just because stores ran out of copies lol...
Re: Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 Adds Almost One Million PS5 Players in Just a Few Days
@gomersoul If you priced it at 30€/$ you would need to sell twice the copies to have same amount of revenue. I don't think they would magically sold twice the amount of copies to compensate.
Microsoft's approach makes perfect sense from business standpoint. Give it full price tag, catch as many people as you can and then catch the rest with discounts during the year. Unless they have FH6 this year(which I doubt), which would probably kill sales of FH5, they have all the time in the world.