PS5 Pro, 30th Anniversary Consoles Now Available at More Retailers

You tease! For a split second I stupidly thought this was about the bundle then 😂

@carlos82 are they really giving that for a boxed ps5? As I’m sticking with my PRO preorder so I’ll be looking to trade the old girl in when it’s here

@carlos82 ha laughing then. PRO will be £400 odd. Best get in there quick before CEX drop the values a bit lol.

My pro is already ordered via PS direct, but Im buying one for a mate. Amazon havent had them all day - I got another one from Argos instead.
My wife is making noises that our second ps5 will need upgrading too, so this could get expensive!

@LowDefAl It comes with a horizontal stand, which is perfectly adequate. Ive always used my ps5s horozontaly so its perfect..

@Major_Player

You have finally done it. All these people saying this for a month, over and over again, on every post about the PS5 Pro, on every comment section across the internet has failed to convince me of PlayStation's folly. Thank YOU for finally saying what needed to be said, again, ad nauseem, forever and ever AMEN.

@OldGamer999 Exactly mate. I buy just about every bit of gaming tech and always have. Not gonna skip the latest..
I was a dev 25 years ago when me and the misses got married, and she had been coming round my flat on game nights for years before that. She always knew a significant portion of our income was destined to be spent on gaming tech... 🤣

Ah, I finally pulled the trigger. Amazon 5% back definitely made it easier... 39 bucks towards the near 80 just in tax ........

@OldGamer999 Yeah I had a Neo Geo, cost me a fortune!

I worked for IBM at the time, my patch was wc1 covent garden.
In the covered market there, a friend Ash ran a specialist import buisnes for Japanese games and had a stall there. We got the neo geo carts within a week of them being released in Japan. I remember when the machine was released, staring at Magician Lord and Nam 75 when they arrived, I had to have one!
New consoles still excite me, even if its just a small tech uplift. Better is better.

@hoffa007 @hoffa007 Thanks for your information, but I beg to differ. I checked regularly from 7am till 10.30 am and they had no listing at all. This was also confirmed on ' the daily express PS5 pro stock checker' which confirmed sales were available on very, game and argos but had not gone live on amazon. Its why I bought on Argos.
Even after I made the purchase I checked Amazon in the afternoon and they stll did not have a product listing for it.
I checked this morning after reading your message here, and they are indeed now listed and available. But they were not available all day yesterday at all and that is and has been confirmed.
Last time I looked yesterday was late afternoon. Maybe they went live shortly after and thats when you looked? Either way, you wont find anyone who bought one at Amazon yesterday morning as it wasnt there.

@OldGamer999 Its 7.32am, and Im about to go on an extended drive, wont be back till early afternoon, but I'll come back to you when Im home!

@OldGamer999 Hi mate, Im back again...
For info I have last years top mini led sony tv, 65x95L. £3k last year, £1550 this year. Always buy last years model. I also have a LG C1 oled at the back of the room, for the second ps5 and the PC.
Its true that with a higher end tv, especially the higher end Sony ones, the 4k upscaling from 1080p is excellent. The AI upscaling in the pro will still do a better job, but its diminishing returns, you are not going to see night and day differences, but it will be a bit better.
But thats not the main reason to own a pro imo. Its to be able to achieve better quality output for sure (especially if you have a cheap 4k telly), but its more about offering the quality option at 60 hz or 120 hz if the game can manage it. Faster frame rates, and hence response times, are the game changer for me.
I played most of FF7 in the performance mode myself, but because of my tvs good upscaling I could cope with the output, whilst others could barely look at the blurriness that can come with that mode. I will appreciate the sharper res for sure, but its not going to be night and day for me.
A lot of these old games getting a quick pro patch will not show all the benefits of the pro hardware, they will simply patch in a few quick wins which need minimal recompiling and work. However games which are just starting to get to their optimisation stage and in alpha, will benefit more, as the 'pro settings' are likely to be far better tuned. If you've ever gamed on PC, its like being able to turn a few options on to ultimate or high settings from the medium setting, so you may get a better shadowing solution, lods changing further away from the camera, better volumetric lighting etc. We may also see more games having some ray traced functions, shadows, reflections, AO etc depending on the devs priorities.
Although its not a huge uplift the extra headroom may help with engines that are a bit cpu constrained too, either allowing for smoother frame rates or maybe an extra effect or two, depending on how the programer wishes to use the extra 10% or so thats available.

How much are you going to notice? Thats a really different answer for all of us. For some, they simply wont notice, or if they do, they wont care. For an old dev like me, I'll notice everything, as long as I put my glasses on! If I only get to play one or two titles @60hz where I'd otherwise have been stuck with 30hz it will be worth every penny of the upgrade, but again, thats gonna be different for everyone.
For a stunning looking game, nothing will ever beat a beatifully crafted and considered aesthetic, a skillfully executed direction and pure artistic talent.
But if you want and crave to experience it at its best, then you'll always take the very best hardware you can afford.
Nothing says you have to pre order? If you have doubts, just wait till its been out a few months and see if you can get some hands on with it, see if it works for you.

@OldGamer999 The problem is you still thinking that internal native rendering resolution is the best metric. Things are moving on and in many cases an upscaled 1440 image for example will offer superior image quality than a native 4k render. Its been this way with quality dlss renders for a while in the pc space.
The whole point of the ai upscaling chip is to produce a picture as good as, or better than a native 4k render whikst leaving resource free to do other stuff you would not otherwise have managed to achieve. The new Dragon Age for instance will have a pro mode which has ray traced ambient occulsion, and is likely to have better lod pop in etc.
The ai upscaler, which is doing this job in dedicated hardware, should enable top notch 4k output at more performant refresh rates whikst leaving compute resource available for use elsewhere, whatever the engine programmer decides to use it on, could be flashy graphics effect, could be better route finding etc
etc. There is unlikely to be situation where switching off the upscaling hardware would priduce better output than with it on, and that chip is dedicated so its of no use elsewhere.
Just my thoughts, im not working with it first hand, but I hope they are of some value to you..

What fps options are offered are down to the dev, not Sony.

We all have our own opinion, so I cant tell you your opinion is wrong. But the development of ai image reconstruction is one of the most significant developments Ive seen in games rendering space since gpu's became a seperate entity in my opinion. Its a huge deal, its been changing pc game space for years, it will allow for more performance on our PS5s and will enure the switch 2 has great looking output despite having the restrictions of portable power requirements. I cant think of another single development that has more significance in recent time.
Suggesting its some kind of marketing gimmick shows you dont understand how game engines work and why its a big deal. Thats OK, its techy.