@MomsSpaghetti Those articles are basically based on physical Japanese sales. A market where almost nothing sells physically anymore. Wait until the digital sales are reported. It's true that Final Fantasy isn't exactly the biggest seller these days, but Final Fantasy XVI and VII Remake both sold much better when accounting for digital sales. Rebirth is doing just fine.
@add286 If a game gets a 90+ for user score, then it has done something right. IMO, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth is the BEST PS5-only game of this generation.
@AhmadSumadi I get that take. I still may play Skyrim at some point, but I've got so many games ahead of it in my queue. I avoided Final Fantasy XIV like the plague for so long because of my complete aversion to multiplayer. And yet, now, I'm about to start Endwalker and try to log in as much as possible.
@MomsSpaghetti Same. At various times, I've tried Morrowind, Oblivion, and Fallout 3. Never played any for more than about an hour. Even Fallout New Vegas, being an Obsidian game, feels much more like a Bethesda game than an Obsidian one. Never played Skyrim or Fallout 4.
I've never been able to get into any Bethesda game, be it Fallout or Elder Scrolls (and have ZERO interest in Starfield). It seems like every rpg from The Witcher to Final Fantasy to Zelda to even Yakuza/Like a Dragon of all games has left Bethesda games in the dust. I doubt, at this point, after the massive string of disappointments Bethesda has had ever since Skyrim launched, that there is any way TES6 can live up to it.
@savarunl I think the side content is intentional to really increase the bond between the characters and specifically the player with the characters. I think, there is the understanding going into the game, that most everyone knows about what is going to happen at the game's climax. So Square Enix devised a new way for that event to be impactful by making us spend countless hours with these characters to increase that bond.
I finished this game a few days and I can say, without conviction, it's a 10 out of 10. Everything is damn near perfect. The characters are livelier than ever. Even Cait Sith has been drastically improved. The graphics (even in UE4) are utterly gorgeous. The world feels lived in. The combat is a thing of beauty. I don't really have a bad thing to say about it. Maybe the moogle mini games could have been dropped.
Metacritic score is a bit lower than I expected. But I'll still be picking this one up. I learned a long time ago to basically ignore reviewers, the way they collectively decided Days Gone was trash from the first 5 hours of the game was the last straw for me. Not to mention, how many reviews of Final Fantasy VII Rebirth spent half the time whining about the ending? Play it and form your own opinion.
Nice to know Rockstar haven't completely forgotten about RDR2. For a game that has sold over 60 million copies, they sure do treat it like the unwanted step child in comparison their obsession with GTAV.
I honestly have been loving the way Arrowhead is marketing this game and how they are (cheekily) gas lighting all of the fans. Some other companies could take a hint.
I just finished Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (and haven't stopped thinking about that ending). Glad to see Rise of the Ronin getting a great review and hope the great reviews keep coming in. Though, I'm going to play it regardless.
Review scores across the board are in the 6/10 range, which isn't terrible. I wasn't expecting the world with this game. I'm still gonna pick it up. Not exactly a ringing endorsement, but 6/10 is the highest score an Alone in the Dark game has received in nearly 20 years.
Ugh, why is anybody giving these clickbait articles the time of day? EVERY game's physical sales are down and most games, that aren't GTAV, drop nearly 90% in the second week. On top of that, this is Japan where physical sales are down even further than in other areas. Spider-Man 2, Starfield, Final Fantasy XVI, etc. all experienced higher digital sales than physical and experienced sharp drop off week on week. This is normal and not at an indictment on Final Fantasy VII Rebirth's quality or reception.
Not a bad lineup. I might hop into NBA 2K24. The highlight this month has to be Jak and Daxter The Lost Frontier. Resident Evil 3 is also a great addition, though I've already platinumed it....twice.
@Professor_Niggle I'll get to Helldivers II, but I've just got too much to play at the moment (you can probably figure out from my pic what I'm currently playing). On top of that, over the next 2 months we've got Rise of the Ronin, Stellar Blade, South Park: Snow Day, and Alone in the Dark, all of which are on my radar. From what I've heard, Concord is sort of like Guardians of the Galaxy, whatever that means. Fairgame$ has a lot of potential, I just hope they don't screw it up. As for Bungie, it's probably time to sunset Destiny and move on to Marathon. Though, I hope Sony gets them to make a full single player campaign for Marathon as that would be insane and Bungie is long overdue for new single player content.
@Professor_Niggle My bad, it can be hard to understand intent in these comments sometimes lol. Agreed, though. There are good live service games (I love Final Fantasy XIV and Helldivers II appears to be insane, though I haven't played it). I think the failure comes when studios who don't know how to make them (or don't want to) get forced to do it. That's how we get a Suicide Squad or a Redfall. It's how Deviation Games fails or how we get a Halo Infinite. Hopefully, Concord and Fairgame$ turn out better than most. I still lament the loss of The Last of Us Online, but seeing the falls of Rocksteady and Arkane, it was probably for the best. We don't want to lose Naughty Dog.
@Professor_Niggle I didn't say Sony doesn't work well with studios. I said it was a failure of the live-service push. I think these games are just a massive gamble and so many of them fail. Live-service is a far bigger risk than other games. Every year multiple live-service games shut down (some right after launch). Only a select few are ever successful and rarely immediately. Honestly, (MMORPGs notwithstanding), I think I can count on one hand the number of live service games that have succeeded: Destiny 2, GTA Online, Sea of Thieves, Fortnite, The Division. And even a number of those were disasters at launch. Hell, Red Dead Redemption II has sold over 60 million and yet, Red Dead Online couldn't hold an audience.
10. Final Fantasy VIII
9. Final Fantasy XIII
8. Final Fantasy IV
7. Final Fantasy X
6. Final Fantasy Tactics
5. Final Fantasy IX
4. Final Fantasy XVI
3. Final Fantasy VI
2. Final Fantasy XIV
1. Final Fantasy VII/Remake/Rebirth
@jt887 You mean the fanbase that paid $16 for a Game pass subscription in September to play Starfield, instead of buying the game outright? I've said it many times, Sony could announce Spider-Man for Xbox tomorrow and Xbox fanboys would whine if the game weren't coming to Game Pass. The first vs third party exclusive argument also falls apart because of Spider-Man. Insomniac is a first party developer and yet apparently that is still a problem. If it's such a problem that Insomniac and Spider-Man are first party, why isn't it also a problem that Bethesda and Starfield are first party for Xbox? Personally, I wouldn't care for a second if Final Fantasy VII Remake/Rebirth or Spider-Man go to Xbox or Nintendo. More people get to play the games that I love? Great. I'm sure some Sony fanboys' heads would explode just as Xbox fanboys' heads did when a game almost none of them played, Pentiment, was announced for PS4/5 and Switch.
This isn't much of a news story. Helldivers II has been the biggest game of the month and launched at the beginning of February. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth launched on the last day of February (and one one less platform) so not really a fair comparison. Glad both games are doing well.
@DennisReynolds Miles Morales was also a much smaller game than Spider-Man 2. And it's not like Insomniac had some massive data breach that they had to contend with. Shame on them for taking so long to get this FREE update out.
@OneWingedAngel Only Xbox fanboys are trying to claim that the game is "underperforming" due to exclusivity. Like they would have bought the game anyway had it released on Xbox. Most likely, they would've complained the game isn't on Game Pass and not played it.
Context is key here. This is only physical sales and does not include digital which is far and away, in 2024, the far more common way games are bought.
@Keyblade-Dan FF7 Remake was not extremely divisive. There were some people who disagreed with the direction it went, but the discourse was never as toxic as say the discourse around The Last of Us Part II.
This isn't even remotely shocking. Final Fantasy VII is arguably the most important game in Playstation's history as it is maybe THE game that put the PS1 on the map. Final Fantasy VII Remake wouldn't have even happened if Sony didn't fund the development. I'm sure Sony know how important Final Fantasy is to their brand and history and I'm of the mind that all future mainline games will likely by PS console exclusive. This exclusivity probably extends to Final Fantasy XVI as well.
Geez, WB it's not like you have one of the most bankable pop culture icons (Batman), in an iconic series (Batman Arkham) and instead you decided to spend nearly 10 years making 2 games in Batman's world, in which Batman is barely featured.
I'll get to Dragons Dogma II at some point, but it's not at the top of my list. Without a new Resident Evil to show off (or Devil May Cry), I've got no interest in a Capcom showcase. Wake me up when the Dino Crisis remake gets announced....see you in 500 years.
I've been playing in graphics mode and after like 5 minutes, I stopped noticing the 30 fps once my eyes adjusted. Still, glad to see CBU 1 fixing the performance mode.
@OmegaStriver Dreams was the game, more than most, that desperately needed a PC launch and it just never got one for whatever reason. I'm glad Media Molecule didn't get closed, but I feel bad for everyone at London Studio (and everyone else laid off too).
I really hope that this game does away with a lot of the bloat that Valhalla had. I was ready for Valhalla to be over by about the 25-ish hour mark. Of course, it took me about 70 to reach the end credits....
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Re: Red Dead Redemption Is Now Included with Subscription Service GTA+
I don't care about another subscription service.
Re: Documentary Details the Creation of PS5's Critically Acclaimed Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth
@MomsSpaghetti Those articles are basically based on physical Japanese sales. A market where almost nothing sells physically anymore. Wait until the digital sales are reported. It's true that Final Fantasy isn't exactly the biggest seller these days, but Final Fantasy XVI and VII Remake both sold much better when accounting for digital sales. Rebirth is doing just fine.
Re: Documentary Details the Creation of PS5's Critically Acclaimed Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth
@add286 If a game gets a 90+ for user score, then it has done something right. IMO, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth is the BEST PS5-only game of this generation.
Re: Xbox Planning to Release the 'Majority' of Its Exclusives on PS5
Please give me Quantum Break on PS5.
Re: Mysterious, Viral Dragon's Dogma 2 Mechanic Infecting Player's Pawns
@Splat But did you tell them to inject bleach into their arms?
Re: The Elder Scrolls Celebrates 30th Anniversary, Gives a Small Update on TES 6
@AhmadSumadi I get that take. I still may play Skyrim at some point, but I've got so many games ahead of it in my queue. I avoided Final Fantasy XIV like the plague for so long because of my complete aversion to multiplayer. And yet, now, I'm about to start Endwalker and try to log in as much as possible.
Re: The Elder Scrolls Celebrates 30th Anniversary, Gives a Small Update on TES 6
@MomsSpaghetti Same. At various times, I've tried Morrowind, Oblivion, and Fallout 3. Never played any for more than about an hour. Even Fallout New Vegas, being an Obsidian game, feels much more like a Bethesda game than an Obsidian one. Never played Skyrim or Fallout 4.
Re: The Elder Scrolls Celebrates 30th Anniversary, Gives a Small Update on TES 6
I've never been able to get into any Bethesda game, be it Fallout or Elder Scrolls (and have ZERO interest in Starfield). It seems like every rpg from The Witcher to Final Fantasy to Zelda to even Yakuza/Like a Dragon of all games has left Bethesda games in the dust. I doubt, at this point, after the massive string of disappointments Bethesda has had ever since Skyrim launched, that there is any way TES6 can live up to it.
Re: Rumour: GTA 6 Could Slip as Far Back as 2026 Due to Development Issues
@Tecinthebrain Just remember, even if the game is an 11/10, it won't cause people to sell their PS5s to play on Xbox.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth?
@savarunl I think the side content is intentional to really increase the bond between the characters and specifically the player with the characters. I think, there is the understanding going into the game, that most everyone knows about what is going to happen at the game's climax. So Square Enix devised a new way for that event to be impactful by making us spend countless hours with these characters to increase that bond.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth?
I finished this game a few days and I can say, without conviction, it's a 10 out of 10. Everything is damn near perfect. The characters are livelier than ever. Even Cait Sith has been drastically improved. The graphics (even in UE4) are utterly gorgeous. The world feels lived in. The combat is a thing of beauty. I don't really have a bad thing to say about it. Maybe the moogle mini games could have been dropped.
Re: PSN Is Currently Down, Seemingly a Widespread Issue
No issues for me, been playing Final Fantasy XIV no problem.
Re: Rise of the Ronin (PS5) - A Safe, Outdated Open World Game
Metacritic score is a bit lower than I expected. But I'll still be picking this one up. I learned a long time ago to basically ignore reviewers, the way they collectively decided Days Gone was trash from the first 5 hours of the game was the last straw for me. Not to mention, how many reviews of Final Fantasy VII Rebirth spent half the time whining about the ending? Play it and form your own opinion.
Re: The First Red Dead Redemption 2 PS4 Patch in Over a Year Isn't What You're Hoping For
Nice to know Rockstar haven't completely forgotten about RDR2. For a game that has sold over 60 million copies, they sure do treat it like the unwanted step child in comparison their obsession with GTAV.
Re: Helldivers 2 Paranoia Peaks, Players Convinced The Illuminate Already Walk Among Us
I honestly have been loving the way Arrowhead is marketing this game and how they are (cheekily) gas lighting all of the fans. Some other companies could take a hint.
Re: First Rise of the Ronin PS5 Review Score Is Sky-High
I just finished Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (and haven't stopped thinking about that ending). Glad to see Rise of the Ronin getting a great review and hope the great reviews keep coming in. Though, I'm going to play it regardless.
Re: Alone in the Dark (PS5) - An Admirable Effort with One Too Many Flaws
Review scores across the board are in the 6/10 range, which isn't terrible. I wasn't expecting the world with this game. I'm still gonna pick it up. Not exactly a ringing endorsement, but 6/10 is the highest score an Alone in the Dark game has received in nearly 20 years.
Re: 13 New PS Plus Extra, Premium Titles Yours to Download Now
@LifeGirl I will die on the hill saying SSX Tricky is the greatest snowboarding game ever.
Re: KOTOR Remake Still Sounds Like It's Far, Far Away from Releasing on PS5
This game is dead. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth PS5 Sales Slip 91% at Retail
Ugh, why is anybody giving these clickbait articles the time of day? EVERY game's physical sales are down and most games, that aren't GTAV, drop nearly 90% in the second week. On top of that, this is Japan where physical sales are down even further than in other areas. Spider-Man 2, Starfield, Final Fantasy XVI, etc. all experienced higher digital sales than physical and experienced sharp drop off week on week. This is normal and not at an indictment on Final Fantasy VII Rebirth's quality or reception.
Re: Pentiment PS5, PS4 Update Fixes the Comically Blunt Platinum Trophy
@Shigurui Eh, I'd rather Naughty Dog give us the ability to unlock the multiplayer trophies so we can actually GET the platinum.
Personally, I found it funny that the platinum trophy name was messed up and would rather they had left it.
Re: 13 New Games Land on PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Week
Not a bad lineup. I might hop into NBA 2K24. The highlight this month has to be Jak and Daxter The Lost Frontier. Resident Evil 3 is also a great addition, though I've already platinumed it....twice.
Re: 13 New Games Land on PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Week
@Bentleyma It started life at Naughty Dog as a PS3 game, but was given to High Impact Games and retooled for PS2 and PSP.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth's Acclaimed CCG Queen's Blood Could Get Expanded
Awesome, Queen's Blood is so much fun.
Re: Sony Partner Deviation Games Shuttered Before Shipping Its First PS5 Project
@Godot25 Deviation Games wasn't a Sony studio.
Re: Sony Partner Deviation Games Shuttered Before Shipping Its First PS5 Project
@Professor_Niggle I'll get to Helldivers II, but I've just got too much to play at the moment (you can probably figure out from my pic what I'm currently playing). On top of that, over the next 2 months we've got Rise of the Ronin, Stellar Blade, South Park: Snow Day, and Alone in the Dark, all of which are on my radar. From what I've heard, Concord is sort of like Guardians of the Galaxy, whatever that means. Fairgame$ has a lot of potential, I just hope they don't screw it up. As for Bungie, it's probably time to sunset Destiny and move on to Marathon. Though, I hope Sony gets them to make a full single player campaign for Marathon as that would be insane and Bungie is long overdue for new single player content.
Re: Rumour: The Last of Us 2 Remastered Is Sony's Next PC Port
If this is the next one, please, please, PLEASE, have Nixxes do it. Keep Naughty Dog and Iron Galaxy away from The Last of Us Part II on PC.
Re: Sony Partner Deviation Games Shuttered Before Shipping Its First PS5 Project
@Professor_Niggle My bad, it can be hard to understand intent in these comments sometimes lol. Agreed, though. There are good live service games (I love Final Fantasy XIV and Helldivers II appears to be insane, though I haven't played it). I think the failure comes when studios who don't know how to make them (or don't want to) get forced to do it. That's how we get a Suicide Squad or a Redfall. It's how Deviation Games fails or how we get a Halo Infinite. Hopefully, Concord and Fairgame$ turn out better than most. I still lament the loss of The Last of Us Online, but seeing the falls of Rocksteady and Arkane, it was probably for the best. We don't want to lose Naughty Dog.
Re: Sony Partner Deviation Games Shuttered Before Shipping Its First PS5 Project
@Professor_Niggle I didn't say Sony doesn't work well with studios. I said it was a failure of the live-service push. I think these games are just a massive gamble and so many of them fail. Live-service is a far bigger risk than other games. Every year multiple live-service games shut down (some right after launch). Only a select few are ever successful and rarely immediately. Honestly, (MMORPGs notwithstanding), I think I can count on one hand the number of live service games that have succeeded: Destiny 2, GTA Online, Sea of Thieves, Fortnite, The Division. And even a number of those were disasters at launch. Hell, Red Dead Redemption II has sold over 60 million and yet, Red Dead Online couldn't hold an audience.
Re: Best Final Fantasy Games
My ranking of the top 10 Final Fantasy games:
10. Final Fantasy VIII
9. Final Fantasy XIII
8. Final Fantasy IV
7. Final Fantasy X
6. Final Fantasy Tactics
5. Final Fantasy IX
4. Final Fantasy XVI
3. Final Fantasy VI
2. Final Fantasy XIV
1. Final Fantasy VII/Remake/Rebirth
(I don't count VII and it's remakes separately)
Re: Timed PS5 Exclusive Final Fantasy 16 Is Almost Ready for Primetime on PC
Can't wait for more people to play this masterpiece.
Re: Sony Partner Deviation Games Shuttered Before Shipping Its First PS5 Project
Another casualty of Sony's short-sighted live-service initiative.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth?
10, outstanding. I have been having nothing but fun with it since I started. Can't wait to finish it and look forward to part 3.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Tops, But Doesn't Even Come Close to Remake
@jt887 You mean the fanbase that paid $16 for a Game pass subscription in September to play Starfield, instead of buying the game outright? I've said it many times, Sony could announce Spider-Man for Xbox tomorrow and Xbox fanboys would whine if the game weren't coming to Game Pass. The first vs third party exclusive argument also falls apart because of Spider-Man. Insomniac is a first party developer and yet apparently that is still a problem. If it's such a problem that Insomniac and Spider-Man are first party, why isn't it also a problem that Bethesda and Starfield are first party for Xbox? Personally, I wouldn't care for a second if Final Fantasy VII Remake/Rebirth or Spider-Man go to Xbox or Nintendo. More people get to play the games that I love? Great. I'm sure some Sony fanboys' heads would explode just as Xbox fanboys' heads did when a game almost none of them played, Pentiment, was announced for PS4/5 and Switch.
Re: PS Store Sales Charts: Helldivers 2 Is Unstoppable, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Settles for Second
This isn't much of a news story. Helldivers II has been the biggest game of the month and launched at the beginning of February. Final Fantasy VII Rebirth launched on the last day of February (and one one less platform) so not really a fair comparison. Glad both games are doing well.
Re: Spider-Man 2's Massive New Game+ Update Is Finally Here, Mission Replay and More Included
@DennisReynolds Miles Morales was also a much smaller game than Spider-Man 2. And it's not like Insomniac had some massive data breach that they had to contend with. Shame on them for taking so long to get this FREE update out.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Tops, But Doesn't Even Come Close to Remake
@Keyblade-Dan I mean, you said extremely divisive and when has that not meant toxic? But my point is, the game was not nearly as divisive as others.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Tops, But Doesn't Even Come Close to Remake
@OneWingedAngel Only Xbox fanboys are trying to claim that the game is "underperforming" due to exclusivity. Like they would have bought the game anyway had it released on Xbox. Most likely, they would've complained the game isn't on Game Pass and not played it.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Tops, But Doesn't Even Come Close to Remake
Context is key here. This is only physical sales and does not include digital which is far and away, in 2024, the far more common way games are bought.
Re: Japan Sales Charts: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Tops, But Doesn't Even Come Close to Remake
@Keyblade-Dan FF7 Remake was not extremely divisive. There were some people who disagreed with the direction it went, but the discourse was never as toxic as say the discourse around The Last of Us Part II.
Re: Talk of Final Fantasy 7 Remake Trilogy Being Completely Console Exclusive to PlayStation Is Inaccurate
@Toot1st But would that be enough to justify Square Enix spending money to port it?
Re: Talk of Final Fantasy 7 Remake Trilogy Being Completely Console Exclusive to PlayStation Is Inaccurate
@Toot1st And how many sales do you realistically think Final Fantasy VII Remake/Rebirth would get on Xbox?
Re: Sony Secures Final Fantasy 7 Remake Trilogy as PlayStation Console Exclusives
This isn't even remotely shocking. Final Fantasy VII is arguably the most important game in Playstation's history as it is maybe THE game that put the PS1 on the map. Final Fantasy VII Remake wouldn't have even happened if Sony didn't fund the development. I'm sure Sony know how important Final Fantasy is to their brand and history and I'm of the mind that all future mainline games will likely by PS console exclusive. This exclusivity probably extends to Final Fantasy XVI as well.
Re: The Last of Us HBO Season 2 Announces Castings for Manny, Owen, Mel, and Nora
@MB81 Owen and Mel were the only likable characters of the Salt Lake crew. Even after 4+ playthroughs, I still can't stand Manny or Nora.
Re: Warner Bros' Reaction to Suicide Squad Flop Will Make You Question Your Sanity
Geez, WB it's not like you have one of the most bankable pop culture icons (Batman), in an iconic series (Batman Arkham) and instead you decided to spend nearly 10 years making 2 games in Batman's world, in which Batman is barely featured.
Re: Capcom Confirms Two-Day Showcase, Featuring Dragon's Dogma 2 and More
I'll get to Dragons Dogma II at some point, but it's not at the top of my list. Without a new Resident Evil to show off (or Devil May Cry), I've got no interest in a Capcom showcase. Wake me up when the Dino Crisis remake gets announced....see you in 500 years.
Re: Guerrilla's Online PS5 Horizon Game Survives Sony Cull
Yay? I mean, good for Guerilla, but I'd rather see Horizon 3 or hell, a new Killzone game.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Is Getting Another Patch to Improve Performance Mode
I've been playing in graphics mode and after like 5 minutes, I stopped noticing the 30 fps once my eyes adjusted. Still, glad to see CBU 1 fixing the performance mode.
Re: Sony's London Studio, Media Molecule Were Reportedly 'Highest on the List' for Closure
@OmegaStriver Dreams was the game, more than most, that desperately needed a PC launch and it just never got one for whatever reason. I'm glad Media Molecule didn't get closed, but I feel bad for everyone at London Studio (and everyone else laid off too).
Re: Rumour: Assassin's Creed Red Is Starting to Sound a Lot Like Valhalla
I really hope that this game does away with a lot of the bloat that Valhalla had. I was ready for Valhalla to be over by about the 25-ish hour mark. Of course, it took me about 70 to reach the end credits....