@Sil_Am London Studio should have been working on something like The Getaway, which could have filled a niche that has been lost in a post-GTAV world. Instead the were relegated to making VR games and a live service (like all of Sony's studios). Japan Studio still hurts years later, but at least their legacy lives in on Team Asobi.
@MrMagic They needed to just make a new Getaway and fill a niche that has been left abandoned in the wake of 3 GTA V remasters. Instead, Jim Ryan's ill-fated live service push as proven to be such a misfire that it has derailed Sony's plans for several years it seems and affected thousands of employees' lives.
This is awful. It seems to be another horrid side effect of Sony's ill-fated live-service push. All of the studios listed were working on live-service games: London Studio, Naughty Dog, Insomniac, and Guerilla. Hopefully the laid off devs get back on their feet quickly.
@Decoy_Snake When Destiny released, Bungie had already split from Microsoft and had a very cold relationship with them. When Destiny released is when Sony began partnering with them. If I recall correctly, Sony handled a lot of the marketing for Destiny in 2014. It was even a big deal that Bungie was releasing a game on Playstation. Now, if Sony could just get Bungie to make a single player campaign for Marathon....
When I saw this, I just kind of laughed. I won't be getting the platinum in Pentiment (at least not any time soon). But the Pascal Case made me laugh in any event. I was honestly kind of surprised there even was a PlatinumTrophy. I figured Xbox would just skip it.
@TheArt Or Remedy. I can't believe this is Rare's first ever Playstation game. Crazy. Now, I hope Rare Replay comes over. I ree-hee-hee-heeeelly (Dr. Cox extra syllables emphasis) want to platinum Goldeneye.
Can't wait for next Friday. The game currently sits at 93 on Metacritic, which is the highest for a Final Fantasy game since Final Fantasy IX in 2000. Potential GOTY.
@JoakimZ It may still come to switch, recall that there was that leaked image that clearly indicated it would be on Switch. However, it may be a streaming only title.
Will be getting Hi Fi Rush when it releases, I'm excited for it. I may get Pentiment as well. Seems interesting and I want this initiative to pay off so that MS continues to bring games to PS5/Switch.
I mean, spoilers suck, but this game is going on 27 years old now. At some point, you just have to accept that the story is out there. It's basically common knowledge at this point that Vader is Luke's father, but does that mean every conversation about Star Wars has to be prefaced with Spoiler alert? That reveal happened in 1980. I think people need to let it go.
@Cjam36 Phil Spencer seems to be fighting against the upper management. He did not seem enthusiastic in this event and it's clear this isn't his decision.
They basically said almost nothing. They confirmed 4 games are going multiplatform (likely Hi Fi Rush, Pentiment, Sea of Thieves, and Grounded). They did NOT deny that Starfield and Indiana Jones may eventually come to PS5/Switch. The only real thing of note is that they seemingly are continuing with day and date on Game Pass. I though, for sure, they were ending that.
@Americansamurai1 Bend has two more games actually. One on PS2 and one on Vita. Sony really needs to add Vita to PS Plus. It would finally be a way to play Uncharted Golden Abyss outside of Vita.
@JSnow2 Pretty much. This is going to be 90 minutes of corporate BS and classic Phil Spencer double speak. I think, the bombshell though, won't be Xbox games going to Switch and PS5, but rather MS ending the practice of putting new games on Game Pass day 1. Oh, can you imagine the vitriol of the Xbox fanboys for that announcement?
@__jamiie I agree that it's time we see what else new they are working on. But at least TLOU2 remastered gives a plethora of new content and isn't just a straight port of TLOU2.
@GeminiReign I think that is how you are supposed to feel. Just like, you are supposed to feel angry and hurt and to want revenge on Abby at all costs. It's just that a few people never moved on from that point (or, let's be real here, probably didn't actually even play the game at all).
I'll get to this one, just not immediately (too much to play right now). Glad it's doing well. I think that this game succeeding has more to do with an experienced MP studio (Arrowhead Studios) making a primarily MP game, not forcing a single player focused studio to make a live service game (Bioware, Rocksteady, Crystal Dynamics, Arkane, Naughty Dog though we thankfully avoided that bullet)
EDIT: Thinking about it now, Sony acquiring Arrowhead Game Studios might not be a bad move if they want to revive The Last of Us Online. Naughty Dog could oversee the project, while Arrowhead works on the game and content. That would allow ND to continue working on their single player games. I also think Sony will likely acquire Shift Up.
@TigerKhan I personally would much rather Indiana Jones be third person and I think the Uncharted comparisons would be good not bad. Making it first person seems like such a Bethesda move as everything they do is first person.
Whelp, this is a MS problem now, can't lay the blame on ABK anymore. When MS bought ABK, they also bought all of ABK's problems. Too bad, MS. This is what you wanted.
@TigerKhan It's a Bethesda game. What was the last non-FPS game that came out of Bethesda?
For me, Indiana Jones, Quantum Break, and Wolfenstein are the only ones I care about. Perhaps, Quantum Break can get a second lease on life with a PS5/PS4 version and Remedy can officially add it to the Remedy-verse. Maybe we can finally get Sunset Overdrive on Playstation too.
@colonelkilgore Not really directed at you, more at just anyone claiming the sky is falling because MS is putting their first party games on PS5 and Switch.
@somnambulance I completely agree with your assessments of FFXVI and Alan Wake II. Alan Wake II was my GOTY, followed closely by FFXVI and Spider-Man 2. FFVII Rebirth looks like it'll raise the bar even higher than those 3 titles. And while I'm not the biggest fan of FFXV, I like how it's combat system (and even going all the way back to XIII) laid the foundation for 7 Remake's/Rebirth's battle system. I kind of like Final Fantasy experimenting with different styles. It makes XVI and VII Rebirth feel like fresh, but with underlying commonalities.
@mikeawmids No, this is wrong. Making a sequel you don't like is no justification for death threats against anyone, let alone a mother and her child. Naughty Dog bears no responsibility for these vile actors just because they created a story that people don't like. People need to just not be *****.
@dark_knightmare2 Xbox fanboys needs someone to blame that isn't Phil Spencer or themselves. To figure out why this is happening, they only need to look in the mirror. Xbox gamers don't buy games anymore. Phil Spencer and Xbox conditioned them that way. What did they think was going to happened when they started putting $300 million games day 1 on a subscription service? If Xbox "fans" didn't want this to happen, maybe they should have actually bought their games. For years we've been seeing that Playstation and Nintendo gamers are more than happy to pay for quality.
@oliverp It does. James Bond 007 Nightfire did the same (and I love that game). But Indiana Jones appears to be primarily first person, which just seems strange for Indiana Jones.
This very much sounds like a leak that is now causing MS to panic and scrounge something together. Maybe there are in fact some merit to these rumors....
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Re: Reaction: The Problem with PlayStation Right Now
@Sil_Am London Studio should have been working on something like The Getaway, which could have filled a niche that has been lost in a post-GTAV world. Instead the were relegated to making VR games and a live service (like all of Sony's studios). Japan Studio still hurts years later, but at least their legacy lives in on Team Asobi.
Re: 900 PlayStation Employees Laid Off, London Studio Closed
@MrMagic They needed to just make a new Getaway and fill a niche that has been left abandoned in the wake of 3 GTA V remasters. Instead, Jim Ryan's ill-fated live service push as proven to be such a misfire that it has derailed Sony's plans for several years it seems and affected thousands of employees' lives.
Re: 900 PlayStation Employees Laid Off, London Studio Closed
This is awful. It seems to be another horrid side effect of Sony's ill-fated live-service push. All of the studios listed were working on live-service games: London Studio, Naughty Dog, Insomniac, and Guerilla. Hopefully the laid off devs get back on their feet quickly.
Re: Second Final Fantasy 16 DLC Set to Be Revealed Next Month
@Neptunes For someone who claims to work in the industry, you sure are doing a lot to attack your fellow developers.
Re: Sea of Thieves Will Be the First PlayStation Game in Rare's 39-Year History
@Decoy_Snake When Destiny released, Bungie had already split from Microsoft and had a very cold relationship with them. When Destiny released is when Sony began partnering with them. If I recall correctly, Sony handled a lot of the marketing for Destiny in 2014. It was even a big deal that Bungie was releasing a game on Playstation. Now, if Sony could just get Bungie to make a single player campaign for Marathon....
Re: Xbox May Need to Familiarise Itself with PS5, PS4's Platinum Trophies
When I saw this, I just kind of laughed. I won't be getting the platinum in Pentiment (at least not any time soon). But the Pascal Case made me laugh in any event. I was honestly kind of surprised there even was a PlatinumTrophy. I figured Xbox would just skip it.
Re: Sea of Thieves Will Be the First PlayStation Game in Rare's 39-Year History
@TheArt Or Remedy. I can't believe this is Rare's first ever Playstation game. Crazy. Now, I hope Rare Replay comes over. I ree-hee-hee-heeeelly (Dr. Cox extra syllables emphasis) want to platinum Goldeneye.
Re: Poor Suicide Squad Sales Disappoint Publisher Warner Bros
Not sure what they expected. This was a game no one asked for from a genre that is very, very hard to be successful in (live-service).
Re: Xbox's Pentiment Is Out Now on PS5, PS4
Just picked it up. Excited to play it. I hope it does well and leads to more Xbox games coming to PS5.
Re: Final Fantasy VII Rebirth (PS5) - Strong Sequel Seeks a New Direction
Can't wait for next Friday. The game currently sits at 93 on Metacritic, which is the highest for a Final Fantasy game since Final Fantasy IX in 2000. Potential GOTY.
Re: Xbox Fans Petitioning for Helldivers 2 to Launch on Xbox
Hiroki Totoki shot down any chance of this happening.
Re: Xbox Game Hi-Fi Rush Announced for PS5, Out Next Month
@JoakimZ It may still come to switch, recall that there was that leaked image that clearly indicated it would be on Switch. However, it may be a streaming only title.
Re: Xbox Games Hi-Fi Rush, Sea of Thieves, Pentiment, Grounded All Confirmed for PS5, PS4
Will be getting Hi Fi Rush when it releases, I'm excited for it. I may get Pentiment as well. Seems interesting and I want this initiative to pay off so that MS continues to bring games to PS5/Switch.
Re: Xbox Game Hi-Fi Rush Announced for PS5, Out Next Month
This is likely also confirmation that Pentiment and Grounded are also coming to PS5, even though that wasn't officially announced.
Re: Xbox Game Hi-Fi Rush Announced for PS5, Out Next Month
I'll pick this up. Been intrigued by it since it's reveal last year.
Re: Random: New York Times Posts Decades-Old Final Fantasy 7 Spoilers on Front Page
I mean, spoilers suck, but this game is going on 27 years old now. At some point, you just have to accept that the story is out there. It's basically common knowledge at this point that Vader is Luke's father, but does that mean every conversation about Star Wars has to be prefaced with Spoiler alert? That reveal happened in 1980. I think people need to let it go.
Re: Random: New York Times Posts Decades-Old Final Fantasy 7 Spoilers on Front Page
@RS1 I don't even give them the time of day.
Re: Respawn Reportedly Developing First-Person, Bounty-Hunting Mandalorian Game
@KundaliniRising333 Star Wars Doom already exists. It's called Dark Forces.
Re: Xbox Fans Petitioning for Helldivers 2 to Launch on Xbox
@Dragoon1994 Kena and Death Stranding are not on Xbox.
Re: Xbox Fans Petitioning for Helldivers 2 to Launch on Xbox
@BiosNova Phil Spencer is a walking gaffe machine.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Skull and Bones?
@Jayslow Yeah, Xbox is overhyping a game that is likely never coming out.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Skull and Bones?
I only play one multiplayer game. Final Fantasy XIV forever! Though I am going to pick up Helldivers 2.
Re: Rumour: Xbox Has Considered Microsoft Flight Simulator, Gears of War, and DOOM for PS5
@Cjam36 Phil Spencer seems to be fighting against the upper management. He did not seem enthusiastic in this event and it's clear this isn't his decision.
Re: Xbox Is Bringing Four Exclusives to PS5, But It Won't Say Which
They basically said almost nothing. They confirmed 4 games are going multiplatform (likely Hi Fi Rush, Pentiment, Sea of Thieves, and Grounded). They did NOT deny that Starfield and Indiana Jones may eventually come to PS5/Switch. The only real thing of note is that they seemingly are continuing with day and date on Game Pass. I though, for sure, they were ending that.
Re: 13 More Games Coming to PS Plus Extra, Premium This Month
Having just platinumed Killzone Liberation (hilariously before completing the game), I can't wait to platinum Resistance Retribution.
Re: 13 More Games Coming to PS Plus Extra, Premium This Month
@Americansamurai1 Bend has two more games actually. One on PS2 and one on Vita. Sony really needs to add Vita to PS Plus. It would finally be a way to play Uncharted Golden Abyss outside of Vita.
Re: Xbox's Multiplatform Plans to Be Revealed on Thursday
@Shushibda They won't.
Re: Xbox's Multiplatform Plans to Be Revealed on Thursday
@JSnow2 Pretty much. This is going to be 90 minutes of corporate BS and classic Phil Spencer double speak. I think, the bombshell though, won't be Xbox games going to Switch and PS5, but rather MS ending the practice of putting new games on Game Pass day 1. Oh, can you imagine the vitriol of the Xbox fanboys for that announcement?
Re: The Last of Us 2 Remastered Europe's Best-Selling New Game of January, PS5 Sales Up
@__jamiie I agree that it's time we see what else new they are working on. But at least TLOU2 remastered gives a plethora of new content and isn't just a straight port of TLOU2.
Re: The Last of Us 2 Remastered Europe's Best-Selling New Game of January, PS5 Sales Up
@GeminiReign I think that is how you are supposed to feel. Just like, you are supposed to feel angry and hurt and to want revenge on Abby at all costs. It's just that a few people never moved on from that point (or, let's be real here, probably didn't actually even play the game at all).
Re: The Last of Us 2 Remastered Europe's Best-Selling New Game of January, PS5 Sales Up
Again, proving that this game isn't hated the way some people might tell you it is.
Re: Helldivers 2 Off to a Strong Start on PS5, PC, Currently Third Best-Selling Game on Steam
I'll get to this one, just not immediately (too much to play right now). Glad it's doing well. I think that this game succeeding has more to do with an experienced MP studio (Arrowhead Studios) making a primarily MP game, not forcing a single player focused studio to make a live service game (Bioware, Rocksteady, Crystal Dynamics, Arkane, Naughty Dog though we thankfully avoided that bullet)
EDIT: Thinking about it now, Sony acquiring Arrowhead Game Studios might not be a bad move if they want to revive The Last of Us Online. Naughty Dog could oversee the project, while Arrowhead works on the game and content. That would allow ND to continue working on their single player games. I also think Sony will likely acquire Shift Up.
Re: Poll: Which Xbox Franchises Would You Buy on PS5?
@TigerKhan I personally would much rather Indiana Jones be third person and I think the Uncharted comparisons would be good not bad. Making it first person seems like such a Bethesda move as everything they do is first person.
Re: Poll: Which Xbox Franchises Would You Buy on PS5?
@GamingFan4Lyf I can hope can't I?
Re: Microsoft's Recent Layoffs Contradict Activision Blizzard Buyout Pledges, Says FTC
Whelp, this is a MS problem now, can't lay the blame on ABK anymore. When MS bought ABK, they also bought all of ABK's problems. Too bad, MS. This is what you wanted.
Re: Poll: Which Xbox Franchises Would You Buy on PS5?
@TigerKhan It's a Bethesda game. What was the last non-FPS game that came out of Bethesda?
For me, Indiana Jones, Quantum Break, and Wolfenstein are the only ones I care about. Perhaps, Quantum Break can get a second lease on life with a PS5/PS4 version and Remedy can officially add it to the Remedy-verse. Maybe we can finally get Sunset Overdrive on Playstation too.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Tracks How Much Your Crush Hearts You on PS5
I love Aerith, but you can probably guess who I'm taking on that date....
Re: Stellar Blade PS5 Pre-Orders Go Live, Two Versions to Choose From
@colonelkilgore Not really directed at you, more at just anyone claiming the sky is falling because MS is putting their first party games on PS5 and Switch.
Re: Preview: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Feels Like a Strong Step Forward from Remake
@somnambulance I completely agree with your assessments of FFXVI and Alan Wake II. Alan Wake II was my GOTY, followed closely by FFXVI and Spider-Man 2. FFVII Rebirth looks like it'll raise the bar even higher than those 3 titles. And while I'm not the biggest fan of FFXV, I like how it's combat system (and even going all the way back to XIII) laid the foundation for 7 Remake's/Rebirth's battle system. I kind of like Final Fantasy experimenting with different styles. It makes XVI and VII Rebirth feel like fresh, but with underlying commonalities.
Re: Rumour: Call of Duty Games Will Feature Open World Campaigns Starting This Year
This seems like a bad move....
Re: Stellar Blade PS5 Pre-Orders Go Live, Two Versions to Choose From
@colonelkilgore It's happening, just accept it.
Re: Abusive Last of Us 2 Fans Allegedly Levelled Death Threats at Abby Actor's Newborn Son
@mikeawmids No, this is wrong. Making a sequel you don't like is no justification for death threats against anyone, let alone a mother and her child. Naughty Dog bears no responsibility for these vile actors just because they created a story that people don't like. People need to just not be *****.
Re: Microsoft Has Apparently Been Stocking Up on PS5 Devkits as Xbox Pivots
@dark_knightmare2 Xbox fanboys needs someone to blame that isn't Phil Spencer or themselves. To figure out why this is happening, they only need to look in the mirror. Xbox gamers don't buy games anymore. Phil Spencer and Xbox conditioned them that way. What did they think was going to happened when they started putting $300 million games day 1 on a subscription service? If Xbox "fans" didn't want this to happen, maybe they should have actually bought their games. For years we've been seeing that Playstation and Nintendo gamers are more than happy to pay for quality.
Re: Xbox Set to Announce Multi-Platform Plans Next Week
@oliverp It does. James Bond 007 Nightfire did the same (and I love that game). But Indiana Jones appears to be primarily first person, which just seems strange for Indiana Jones.
Re: The Last of Us 2 Began Life as Open World Melee Epic Heavily Inspired by Bloodborne
@PSme I've been to Mystic Pizza lol
Re: Xbox Set to Announce Multi-Platform Plans Next Week
@oliverp I only care about Indiana Jones. Though, I still wish it weren't first person.
Re: Xbox Set to Announce Multi-Platform Plans Next Week
@Czar_Khastik I heard it was gonna be the Xbox Series P with a yellow controller.
Re: Xbox Set to Announce Multi-Platform Plans Next Week
This very much sounds like a leak that is now causing MS to panic and scrounge something together. Maybe there are in fact some merit to these rumors....
Re: Rumour: Even Gears of War Is Reportedly in Talks to Come to PlayStation
@0niguy Gears of War is not the system seller it once was. Halo, which is also rumored to be coming to PS, would be a far bigger bombshell.
Re: Rumour: Even Gears of War Is Reportedly in Talks to Come to PlayStation
@Juanalf This is not Phil's call. I think he's going to be out at Xbox within the next year, if these rumors turn out to be true.