Oh my, gamers just live off of outrage rather than taking things levelheaded. Retail prices, as I've expected, are already showing signs of not conforming to msrp here in Europe. The new donkey Kong f.e. going for 50€ instead of 80€. See link
Perspective is also important. Pre-Euro days (late 90s) PS1 games were about 50€ and N64 70€ and that isn't even taking inflation into account. So actually I'm paying about the same but oftentimes less for games these days.
Definitely a better choice. A focused three act plot and theme to go with. As a TV show they'd probably just stretch the entire goody two shoe plot to a drag.
Sony has already pushed the price to 80€... digitally. AC shadows, monster hunter, death stranding 2, mgs delta... All 80€ on PSN. You're acting like this is some new crazy scheme Nintendo came up with. I'm not happy about these prices, but I'll always vote with my wallet as these are luxury purchases and not necessities. Physical retail only at max. 60€ if I really want it at launch and support the studio, otherwise 2nd hand at max. 50€. Digital only if it's under 10€ or DLC.
Acting like victims here is just stupid... get worked up and oppose oligarchs and fascists instead.
@Nalim As I said in a previous comment, if you look around you can buy these games 10€ cheaper (sometime 20€ if you're lucky). Capcom Games usually go down in price very quick as they often overproduce. And I've also never seen a base game cost 90€ msrp. Only seen it with past launch games, but that was due to greedy retailers, not msrp. I'm sure we'll see switch 2 games move around 50-60€ physically very soon.
@DonJorginho Listen, I'm not riding some narrative. Why should I? New ps5 games cost 79.99€ here in Europe, I'm not pulling these numbers out of my a**. Here some current example:
@__Seraph @DonJorginho @Nalim Launch title games are always ways overpriced. It's not a Nintendo thing. Ps5 launch games had exorbitant prices as well and now commonly 60-80€ at release, also digitally 80+ which is a joke. Big Switch titles however can usually be purchased for 45-60€ at release. The so called "Nintendo Tax" isn't real. And don't say Nintendo games are worth less quality wise or not "real games".
Currently playing Xenoblade X and it's technically very impressive. When I sit on my couch about 2 m away from my 65" screen it looks crisp and it's basically instantaneous loadtimes for a huge open world. The camera pans through at incredible speed reminding me of the Spiderman m.2 SSD tech demo. Monolith soft are wizards in their craftsmanship.
And all that running off of an old arm chip that would be starting junior high if it'd go to school.
That being said Nintendo proves that flashy tech specs don't matter. Fun, convenience and accessibility is king. The switch 2 will most likely be an instant purchase with no hesitation.
rdr2, while being impressive was such a drag that just pissed on my time.
Short games (< 10 hours) are, if they're good, highly replayable by default, even without additional post game incentives. I will often return for mgs, uncharted, resident evil, shenmue, sly cooper, silent hill and the likes. These games all respected ones time.
These days consumers feel ripped off for regular priced games under 40-60 hours, and yet complain that they can't finish the backlog that is stacking in the empty void inside of them.
@PuppetMaster really? I thought sengoku was the most used and generally around the bukumatsu events. I can't think of many video games during meiji and taisho period except Sakura wars on the top of my head.
While I don't fully agree I see some truth in what he's saying. At least that goes for young kids that play with what the parent makes available and unfortunately often unsupervised, which are usually crap mobile games. And since kids want to play what their mates are playing it creates a momentum for crap games, that proper games can only dream of.
My boy grew up playing mostly mario games on the switch, but since his mates talk about mostly Minecraft, Roblox and a few other meh looking mobile games, that's what he talks about now. Barely ever touches the switch and plays Minecraft with every opportunity on a console. Not gonna let him go unchecked on a phone or tablet however. Too many kids get stuck on that nonsense.
Why not just do something like The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim. So rare to see a mature animated feature film get such a wide release. I'm sure more people will show up for Zelda if promoted well enough.
Unlike tlou, I can't get enough Uncharted. Wouldn't mind more Nadine and Chloe, great duo. If tlou then I'd wish for a complete change of setting and characters, like South America, Europe or Africa.
"Indeed, many western onlookers had taken these snapshot moments to mean that Japan really wasn't keen on the open world RPG."
Something the weebs who spent so much time here "defending Japan" should take to heart. The silver lining however, all their arguments were comedic gold. Sure had a good laugh.
@KillerBoy should be the case, but in this day and age the weirdest people are out and about slandering the work of others for the silliest of reasons.
An another note however... someone who actually should be pulled through the dirt in every way possible. A certain individual who owns a social media platform and runs a bogus government division with no mandate, just started a silly debate with the PR division of Ubisoft, and that certain someone seems to be on the loosing end of the discussion 😂 We live in the dumbest timeline.
Most likely a bad case of confirmation bias, but this headline is music to my ears.
To some of the counterarguments, western devs ≠ western Devs. Especially US based Devs earn more because of exorbitant costs of living as well as lack of social systems and job security thanks to union busting. Some laminated cu** face may call it government efficiency... it's clearly bs. Back to gaming, Japan had a freeze on inflation for a long time now which has just recently been lifted, so you can't compare the wages between top Cali based studio and Japan. They also have federal worker protection laws where you would rather see a CEO taking a reduced salary before mass lay offs. It's not perfect, but by far better than what the US has in place.
@Fighting_Game_Loser haha, so true. Dumb plastic collector gimmicks they always add. Art books and soundtracks preferred and can be stored more easily.
I'm sure this would have caused a much bigger sh**storm if ubi or ea were the publisher, despite the fact that their games (while buggy) are on the disc.
As things go with download requirements, disc rot etc, the only true preservation will be GOG, abandonware sites, emulation, piracy and big NAS HDDs/SSDs that back eachother up.
@Zuljaras oh, I was thinking about the pc/steam Capcom releases. But playstation discs that don't run without internet? Hmm, don't know of any cases. I played outlaws and that worked fine without internet, which surprised me after all the fuss. Though most do want to play it patched.
Star Wars Outlaws is a masterpiece in open world game design and also technically quite the marvel. To be fair, I played it about 2 months after release. Felt a little bad that after enjoying it so much and ubi didn't get any money since it was second hand, but then I happily purchased the DLC which has also been good.
Studios that fly someone back in for a body scan while they could have just plastered his mutt on any template character model shouldn't complain about exploding dev costs. Will they add a few thousand to give that weird fanboy a "HIM" shirt as well!?
I swear most gamers just demand this to happen because the next person said so as well. The same with any trending outrage (psn pc), hate campaign (Ubisoft), demand (Bloodborne) or hype (silk song, which people act like is the friggin rapture). It's like you people are so desperate for online approval that you are playing echo with eachother.
I'm not one to defend FF16, my least favourite FF imo, but this sites reporting of it and also FF7rebirth just added to the entire failure narrative.
I know sales are an important factor... for franchises and companies, why for us gamers however!? Some comment section gamers and the media put so much emphasis behind it, that it has an influence on consumer and market perception, which lead more to actual market failure. There's a perverse group of gamers who just want things to fail for the silliest of reasons, oftentimes culture wars bs or other pet peeves. This led to outlaws flopping and AC shadows just another current example. What do those weirdos gain from something failing!?
@yohn777 nah, something like heavy rain, which was such a prime example of how cinematic a game is and people went on how it competes with Hollywood and should have been adapted, would have made a really horrible, cheesy plot hole riddled movie. We have some way better games these days that would be great to adapt, but Josef Fares games aren't that.
I hope this picks up on steam. Looks great and I'd love to get it in support, but can't at full retail price with xenoblade X just releasing and the day only having 24 hours, responsibility, mortality and stuff like that.
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Re: Almost All PS5 Fans Are Against $80 Games
Oh my, gamers just live off of outrage rather than taking things levelheaded. Retail prices, as I've expected, are already showing signs of not conforming to msrp here in Europe. The new donkey Kong f.e. going for 50€ instead of 80€. See link
https://youtu.be/YZIk9_CpuvQ?si=3Z-qi8Ldve6vIpCz
Perspective is also important. Pre-Euro days (late 90s) PS1 games were about 50€ and N64 70€ and that isn't even taking inflation into account. So actually I'm paying about the same but oftentimes less for games these days.
Re: Sony to Turn Horizon Zero Dawn into a Movie, Not a TV Show
Definitely a better choice. A focused three act plot and theme to go with. As a TV show they'd probably just stretch the entire goody two shoe plot to a drag.
Re: Poll: PS5 Fans, Are You Sold on the Nintendo Switch 2?
@DonJorginho @Nalim as expected, launch prices are overinflated and the reality in retail will be cheaper (EU at least), sooner than expected.
https://youtu.be/YZIk9_CpuvQ?si=3Z-qi8Ldve6vIpCz
Re: The Best Yakuza Game's Getting a Director's Cut, And It Could Come to PS5 and PS4 Later
@DualWielding Yakuza 0 might be the most popular, but 1&5 are my favourites.
Re: Talking Point: What Are Your Thoughts on Potential $80 PS5 Games?
@Juvenlast outlaws was soo good! Felt bad cheeping out on Ubisoft getting this 2nd hand so I got the DLC. It's also good!
Re: Talking Point: What Are Your Thoughts on Potential $80 PS5 Games?
Sony has already pushed the price to 80€... digitally. AC shadows, monster hunter, death stranding 2, mgs delta... All 80€ on PSN. You're acting like this is some new crazy scheme Nintendo came up with. I'm not happy about these prices, but I'll always vote with my wallet as these are luxury purchases and not necessities. Physical retail only at max. 60€ if I really want it at launch and support the studio, otherwise 2nd hand at max. 50€. Digital only if it's under 10€ or DLC.
Acting like victims here is just stupid... get worked up and oppose oligarchs and fascists instead.
Re: PS5 vs Switch 2: Full Tech Specs Comparison
Eh, is this a placeholder for when we get actual specs on the switch 2?
Re: Poll: PS5 Fans, Are You Sold on the Nintendo Switch 2?
@Nalim As I said in a previous comment, if you look around you can buy these games 10€ cheaper (sometime 20€ if you're lucky). Capcom Games usually go down in price very quick as they often overproduce. And I've also never seen a base game cost 90€ msrp. Only seen it with past launch games, but that was due to greedy retailers, not msrp.
I'm sure we'll see switch 2 games move around 50-60€ physically very soon.
Re: Poll: PS5 Fans, Are You Sold on the Nintendo Switch 2?
@DonJorginho Listen, I'm not riding some narrative. Why should I? New ps5 games cost 79.99€ here in Europe, I'm not pulling these numbers out of my a**.
Here some current example:
https://amzn.eu/d/70sJe9Z
https://amzn.eu/d/fA7uxXY
A bit of bargain hunting could get it 10€ cheaper at launch, but 80€ is standard fair, and the euro is currently higher than the dollar.
Xenoblade X for example
https://amzn.eu/d/3FM7ME6
Just saying that console launch games have traditionally been inflated, and that it usually calms down over time.
Re: Poll: PS5 Fans, Are You Sold on the Nintendo Switch 2?
@__Seraph @DonJorginho @Nalim Launch title games are always ways overpriced. It's not a Nintendo thing. Ps5 launch games had exorbitant prices as well and now commonly 60-80€ at release, also digitally 80+ which is a joke. Big Switch titles however can usually be purchased for 45-60€ at release. The so called "Nintendo Tax" isn't real. And don't say Nintendo games are worth less quality wise or not "real games".
Re: Feature: Nintendo Switch 2 Direct - 5 Things for PS5 Fans to Pay Attention To
Currently playing Xenoblade X and it's technically very impressive. When I sit on my couch about 2 m away from my 65" screen it looks crisp and it's basically instantaneous loadtimes for a huge open world. The camera pans through at incredible speed reminding me of the Spiderman m.2 SSD tech demo. Monolith soft are wizards in their craftsmanship.
And all that running off of an old arm chip that would be starting junior high if it'd go to school.
That being said Nintendo proves that flashy tech specs don't matter. Fun, convenience and accessibility is king. The switch 2 will most likely be an instant purchase with no hesitation.
Re: The Last of Us 2 Is Better Than Ever On the Go with Steam Deck Support
@Sanquine still mainly on playstation anyways, but I'd really like GT on the go and at home with pcvr since I'm not buying psvr2.
Re: The Last of Us 2 Is Better Than Ever On the Go with Steam Deck Support
Always tlou, we need Gran Turismo on PC!
Re: Legendary Trophy Hunting Game My Name Is Mayo Returns with New PS5 Remaster
Hope it has autopop trophies. Sure as hell wouldn't want to have to go through all the hard work again!
Re: Sony Reportedly Gearing Up to Sell You The Last of Us on PS5 One More Time
Get out of here!
Re: Free The Sinking City Remaster for All Existing PS5 Owners
Nice, it's currently just 5€ for ps plus members and just the right thing after recently finishing the fantastic alone in the dark reboot.
Re: PS5's Onimusha: Way of the Sword Is a Gory, Linear, 20-Hour Action Game, and Basically a Reboot
rdr2, while being impressive was such a drag that just pissed on my time.
Short games (< 10 hours) are, if they're good, highly replayable by default, even without additional post game incentives. I will often return for mgs, uncharted, resident evil, shenmue, sly cooper, silent hill and the likes. These games all respected ones time.
These days consumers feel ripped off for regular priced games under 40-60 hours, and yet complain that they can't finish the backlog that is stacking in the empty void inside of them.
Re: Tiny New Ghost of Yotei Details Have PS5 Owners Hyped
@PuppetMaster really? I thought sengoku was the most used and generally around the bukumatsu events. I can't think of many video games during meiji and taisho period except Sakura wars on the top of my head.
Re: Tiny New Ghost of Yotei Details Have PS5 Owners Hyped
Personally wished for a game in the Meiji era, but the rough plot gives some great lady snowblood vibes, so I'm more than down for it.
Generally speaking, game studios should finally adapt Kazuo Koike Mangas into games. Looking at you studio RGG.
Re: Kids Aren't Dreaming of Owning a PS6, Says Netflix Games Boss
While I don't fully agree I see some truth in what he's saying. At least that goes for young kids that play with what the parent makes available and unfortunately often unsupervised, which are usually crap mobile games. And since kids want to play what their mates are playing it creates a momentum for crap games, that proper games can only dream of.
My boy grew up playing mostly mario games on the switch, but since his mates talk about mostly Minecraft, Roblox and a few other meh looking mobile games, that's what he talks about now. Barely ever touches the switch and plays Minecraft with every opportunity on a console. Not gonna let him go unchecked on a phone or tablet however. Too many kids get stuck on that nonsense.
Re: Sony's Live-Action The Legend of Zelda Movie Will Launch 26th March, 2027
@Nei yes and no. Nobody likes alarm clocks and yet they made one 😂
Re: Sony's Live-Action The Legend of Zelda Movie Will Launch 26th March, 2027
Why not just do something like The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim. So rare to see a mature animated feature film get such a wide release.
I'm sure more people will show up for Zelda if promoted well enough.
Re: Speculation About a Second Naughty Dog PS5 Game Starts to Circulate
Unlike tlou, I can't get enough Uncharted. Wouldn't mind more Nadine and Chloe, great duo.
If tlou then I'd wish for a complete change of setting and characters, like South America, Europe or Africa.
Re: RPG Fans 'Very Sensitive to Feeling Like They Wasted Time,' Says Atlus Battle Designer
Shout out to those who also felt a lapse in that balance while battling Okumura in P5/R in an otherwise challenging yet smooth experience.
Re: Patapon 1+2 Replay Marches to PS5, as Sony Licenses Series Out
If you don't have a real handheld to pair this with this is the best way to go.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Gets Positive Reviews In Japan as Bayonetta Director Speaks Out
"Indeed, many western onlookers had taken these snapshot moments to mean that Japan really wasn't keen on the open world RPG."
Something the weebs who spent so much time here "defending Japan" should take to heart. The silver lining however, all their arguments were comedic gold. Sure had a good laugh.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Gets Positive Reviews In Japan as Bayonetta Director Speaks Out
@KillerBoy should be the case, but in this day and age the weirdest people are out and about slandering the work of others for the silliest of reasons.
An another note however... someone who actually should be pulled through the dirt in every way possible. A certain individual who owns a social media platform and runs a bogus government division with no mandate, just started a silly debate with the PR division of Ubisoft, and that certain someone seems to be on the loosing end of the discussion 😂
We live in the dumbest timeline.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for April 2025 Announced
Are we through yet with the asymmetrical MP horror games yet? Robocop is a win though for those who haven't played it yet.
Re: Japan's Game Industry on Impressive Rise as Western AAA Development Struggles
Most likely a bad case of confirmation bias, but this headline is music to my ears.
To some of the counterarguments, western devs ≠ western Devs. Especially US based Devs earn more because of exorbitant costs of living as well as lack of social systems and job security thanks to union busting. Some laminated cu** face may call it government efficiency... it's clearly bs.
Back to gaming, Japan had a freeze on inflation for a long time now which has just recently been lifted, so you can't compare the wages between top Cali based studio and Japan. They also have federal worker protection laws where you would rather see a CEO taking a reduced salary before mass lay offs. It's not perfect, but by far better than what the US has in place.
Re: PS5 Stunner Phantom Blade Zero Wants to 'Get Back to the PS1 and PS2 Era' of Creativity
I can only agree to that mindset. How bout it Sony?
Re: Indiana Jones PS5's Physical Release Requires You to Download the Game
@Fighting_Game_Loser haha, so true. Dumb plastic collector gimmicks they always add. Art books and soundtracks preferred and can be stored more easily.
I'm sure this would have caused a much bigger sh**storm if ubi or ea were the publisher, despite the fact that their games (while buggy) are on the disc.
As things go with download requirements, disc rot etc, the only true preservation will be GOG, abandonware sites, emulation, piracy and big NAS HDDs/SSDs that back eachother up.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077's Arcade Cabinet Could and Should Have Been So Much Cooler
The next coolest thing to metal gear pachinko!
Re: Indiana Jones PS5's Physical Release Requires You to Download the Game
Ah bummer, perhaps an Asian import will have it on disc.
Re: Poll: What Are Your Thoughts on Bloodborne, 10 Years Later?
Good and moved on
Re: At a Tumultuous Time, Assassin's Creed Shadows Is Doing the Business for Ubisoft
@Zuljaras oh, I was thinking about the pc/steam Capcom releases.
But playstation discs that don't run without internet? Hmm, don't know of any cases. I played outlaws and that worked fine without internet, which surprised me after all the fuss. Though most do want to play it patched.
Re: At a Tumultuous Time, Assassin's Creed Shadows Is Doing the Business for Ubisoft
Star Wars Outlaws is a masterpiece in open world game design and also technically quite the marvel. To be fair, I played it about 2 months after release. Felt a little bad that after enjoying it so much and ubi didn't get any money since it was second hand, but then I happily purchased the DLC which has also been good.
Re: At a Tumultuous Time, Assassin's Creed Shadows Is Doing the Business for Ubisoft
@Zuljaras DRM was in most all Capcom Games and then removed more than a year post release.
Re: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 + 4 Will Reportedly Include Bam Margera After All
Studios that fly someone back in for a body scan while they could have just plastered his mutt on any template character model shouldn't complain about exploding dev costs. Will they add a few thousand to give that weird fanboy a "HIM" shirt as well!?
Re: Bloodborne Fans Wait with Bated Breath as Iconic PS4 Exclusive Turns 10 Today
I swear most gamers just demand this to happen because the next person said so as well. The same with any trending outrage (psn pc), hate campaign (Ubisoft), demand (Bloodborne) or hype (silk song, which people act like is the friggin rapture). It's like you people are so desperate for online approval that you are playing echo with eachother.
Re: Watch a Full Playthrough of the First-Person Until Dawn That Never Released
Yeah, I was slightly disappointed when the move version just vanished, but what we got was good (not necessary ps5 remaster worthy good however).
I'm pretty excited that PS3 emulation, preservation, mods and fan translations are picking up speed as of late. I love this gen.
Re: Journalist Apologises for Adding Fuel to the 'Final Fantasy 16 Flopped on PS5' Fire
I'm not one to defend FF16, my least favourite FF imo, but this sites reporting of it and also FF7rebirth just added to the entire failure narrative.
I know sales are an important factor... for franchises and companies, why for us gamers however!? Some comment section gamers and the media put so much emphasis behind it, that it has an influence on consumer and market perception, which lead more to actual market failure. There's a perverse group of gamers who just want things to fail for the silliest of reasons, oftentimes culture wars bs or other pet peeves. This led to outlaws flopping and AC shadows just another current example. What do those weirdos gain from something failing!?
Re: Rumour: New God of War PS5 Game Returns to Greece This Year
Sounds like a stretch after the sop and anniversary but we'll see.
Re: Split Fiction Looks Set for Hollywood as Bidding War Begins for Movie Adaptation
@yohn777 nah, something like heavy rain, which was such a prime example of how cinematic a game is and people went on how it competes with Hollywood and should have been adapted, would have made a really horrible, cheesy plot hole riddled movie. We have some way better games these days that would be great to adapt, but Josef Fares games aren't that.
Re: Dave the Diver's Like a Dragon DLC Will Only Be Available for Six Months After April Launch
Then keep it, dumb fomo strategy.
Crossovers are probably one of the dumbest current trends in gaming.
Re: Capcom Celebrates Dragon's Dogma 2's 1st Anniversary, But There's Still No Sign of an Expansion
The game "everyone" said they wanted and at release it felt like most of em forgot that they wanted it... just weird
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Soars Past 1 Million Players at Launch
I hope this picks up on steam. Looks great and I'd love to get it in support, but can't at full retail price with xenoblade X just releasing and the day only having 24 hours, responsibility, mortality and stuff like that.
Re: God of War Fans Gutted with Free 20th Anniversary Goodies
Haha, I do get the letdown, but seriously!? Grow up you entitled man babies. This is no news, but congrats push square... you got the engagement
Re: 58 PS5, PS4 Games You Should Buy in PS Store's Mega March Sale
@PerpetualBoredom Heast!
Re: Iconic Game Maker Says Japanese Devs Should Stop Trying to Appeal to Westerners
@breakneck sega is leaning into the "look how crazy" too heavily Imo. That's why pirates is no day one purchase for me.
Re: Another 8 Great PS5, PS4 Games Will Leave PS Plus Extra in April
Dang, four on the list I was planning to play.